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Barack Obama : The Birth Certificate Controversy

Updated on December 26, 2014
27 April 2011: U.S. President Barack Obama speaks to the press the same day the White House released the long form of his birth certificate to dispel conspiracy theories surrounding his place of birth.
27 April 2011: U.S. President Barack Obama speaks to the press the same day the White House released the long form of his birth certificate to dispel conspiracy theories surrounding his place of birth. | Source

Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Obama

Rumors on the Internet have been flying around fast and furious that Barack Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States because he has not yet produced a real Birth certificate with his name: Barack Obama. Some people claim that Barack Obama's Birth certificate/certificate of live birth has either been forged, tampered with or in some way been altered. There has been speculation that Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya, and that because of this he cannot constitutionally be President (the constitution has 3 qualifications for presidency: you must be at least 35 years old, be born in the United States and have been a resident of the United States for at least 14 years)

Now after seeing this "conspiracy " rise to a crescendo , I decided to look into the facts myself and see if I could come up with some real evidence that indeed Barack Obama has a Birth Certificate or evidence of his birth place.

Political reporters over at FactCheck have done a good job on this story and I think they have presented some of the best information on Barack Obama, and as for me, I am convinced that the controversy over Barack Obama's birth certificate/certificate of live birth is just that - a conspiracy that has no merit (and this is coming from a conspiracy theorist - so I always look on both sides of the fence and try not to "assume" anything)

Now for the naysayers, don't you think that "The Powers That Be" check into these things too before someone runs for President of the United States? I mean come on now, how long has Mr. Barack Obama been a senator?

Don't you think that if it was that easy to misrepresent yourself about your birth that we'd have every Tom, Dick and Harry running for positions in high places?

Certificate of Live Birth: Barack Obama

 This is the long form birth certificate showing that the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born at 7:24 pm, on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States.
This is the long form birth certificate showing that the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born at 7:24 pm, on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States. | Source

Barack Obama's Certificate of Live Birth

So after reading some interesting forums threads that Barack Obama has not produced an original Birth Certificate and that somehow he is hiding facts surrounding the birth certificate, I have provided links to the original stories and pictures of Obama's Certificate of Live Birth (Hawaii's short form for a Birth Certificate). Please take a look at the links below that not only show multiple copies and views of Barack Obama's Birth certificate but also show an original copy of the Birth Announcement of Barack Obama's birth in a Hawaiian newspaper.

Then please come back here and tell me we have a conspiracy on our hands.....

(And if this turns out to be wrong I'll wear a tinfoil hat on Election Week!)

Birth Announcement of Barack Obama

This is a copy of the newspaper announcement published when Barack Obama was born in Honolulu
This is a copy of the newspaper announcement published when Barack Obama was born in Honolulu | Source

A Huge Conspiracy Involving Multiple Agencies?

So folks for those that want to keep that tin-foil hat on insisting that Obama's Birth Certificate is a fake, just remember how many people would have had to conspire to forge Barack Obama's Birth Certificate:as one site mentioned, this is what would have needed to happen for this to be a conspiracy:

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

Now do you really think that all of these agencies have conspired against the people of the United States to alter Barack Obama's original birth certificate? And don't you think that if there was any merit to this supposed conspiracy that McCains camp would be climbing all over this story?

Come on now and let's get on with the election!

(and yes I guess you can tell who I'm voting for, but I'm OK with you disagreeing - that's politics! )

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    Dorsi Diaz 4 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

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    Dorsi Diaz 4 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @themalou) Perfect reasoning!

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    thelmalou 4 years ago

    Did it ever occur to all of you disbelievers, that all you had

    to was to check his mothers passport and find out where she

    was on 08-04-1961. Guess not.

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    bill 5 years ago

    if his cert;had B rack Obama on it what happened to BARRY SANTORO

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    Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Wow Rosco that is some scary stuff.

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    roscojones 5 years ago

    Dorsi, When you start looking, you start finding. There is some confusion on the birth/citizenship requirements to be President. Check out this one.

    Presidential Birth Requirements and other Forms of citizenship chart - http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/

    I need to go off topic (BHO's BC) for this next bit of BHO info. I went to the Trinity United Church of Christ website where BHO was a part of the congregation for years. What I found was more than a little scary, to think this is the mindset of our President. I just had to pass this on.

    Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981.

    Our History

    We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

    THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM

    http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com...

    #8 Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness." Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the "talented tenth" of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor's control. Proverbs 3:13-14 - Happy are those who find wisdom and those who gain understanding, for her income is better than silver and her revenue better than gold.

    Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:

    A. Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

    B. Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.

    C. Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of "we" and "they" instead of "us."

    D. So, while it is permissible to chase "middleclassness" with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method - the psychological entrapment of Black "middleclassness." If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our "voluntary" contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.

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    Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Thank you Rosco for the links. This sure keeps going, doesn't it?

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    roscojones 5 years ago

    BHO's Kenyan birth certificate.

    "Testimony from a Mombasa science teacher and the Mombasa Registrar of births that Obama's birth certificate from Mombasa is genuine. A copy of President Obama's birth certificate that Lucas Smith obtained through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who got it recently directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya."

    http://thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_c...

    This site also has some info from BHO's past that you have never seen/heard before. Check it out.

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    roscojones 5 years ago

    Mitt Romney's new campaign song, or at least it should be.

    http://www.holdingahammer.com/

    A smile a day never hurts...

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    Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @rosco) Thanks for the link. I'll be taking a look at this. This is getting more and more interesting I have to say.

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    roscojones 5 years ago

    Obama's real birth certificate:

    Tim Adams was the Chief Elections Clerk for the City and

    County of Honolulu during the 2008 election. In a radio interview, he talks about the fact there is no long form birth certificate for Obama and that means he was NOT born there. At this link you can read the transcript of the interview and much more. Tim is like the contact for details in Watergate. Very informative and worth a glance.

    Go to http://digitalcommons.wku.edu/theses/1071/

    Download the Adobe file to read the material.

    Start at page 28.

    You will be surprised as I was that still remains undisclosed.

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    Rom Sirat 5 years ago

    I would really like to ask those that voted for this president and still thinking of giving him another four years after 3 plus years of nothing but failures. And please don't tell me that he succeeded and I really don't want to hear anymore that it's Bush' fault. We're up to our rear end in debt, almost 17 trillion dollars, he gave away billions of dollars to companies that his administration probably knew was going to fail anyway, Solyndra was a good example, his cohorts passed the Obamacare without reading the entire packet, his AG will not take responsibility for their screw up, the price of gas will probably not going to get any lower and you people still want to vote for this man? What are you people going to do then when you are tax to death by his administration because someone has to pay for that 17 trillion dollar debt, and if you're still working, it's almost a certainty that you, and probably your children and your children's children will be paying for it. I don't know whether I will have the guts to tell my grandchildren that the reason why our country is such a lousy place to live in now was because of people like you.

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    Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @Luis) I do agree with that. I personally would release my birth record too if it would stop a wave of conspiracy.

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    Luis Grisko 5 years ago

    Well, all I can say is that a Certificate of Live Birth is not the sams as a Birth Certificate . . . . . But "semantics" aside, there is one aspect of this issue with which I take umbrage: why was his birth record sealed? While the controversy has swirled around the legitimacy of his birth record, no one has explained why his record was sealed in the first place. Such an odd (suspicious?) action for what is seemingly such an innocuous piece of paper seems to say that the smoking gun theory is not full of blanks - so to speak.

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    Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @John) This gives me alot to think about. Thanks.

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    John Whittle. Ammanford. South Wales. 5 years ago

    MARY.H:- There are so many discrepancies in what people are saying, of course, I can understand that there will always be supporters of anyone who's in a pull-pit.. or even a cesspit when they've been put on a pedestal. Having watched and listened to a variety of broadcasts transmitted by legitimate and authorised news reports, I am not convinced of the true identity of this man aka Barry Sowetoro. I read an interview in the Chicago Sun Times that was published by journalist/interviewer Cathy Falsani and Barry/Barrack had to answer some questions regarding his faith. The answers he gave to Cathleen were so pathetic and unreal, He didn't have a clue what he was ranting about. The evidence of his inability to answer correclty was sufficient enough to tell me he was a fraud and a deceiver. The poor dumb president is more stupid than many believe. But as a puppet, he's pretty cool!

    I watched his grand entrance on British TV News at the time of his presidential election and public chatterbox session to announce his office at the White House. Obama/Sowetoro, whatever his real name is, made a right mockery and fool of himself dressed in a Superman outfit and boastingly declaired 'That he was not born in a manger, but is from the planet KRYPTON and come to save the world' End quote: Oh boy! What a pig-headed puffed-up presumptious self appointed dictator we have here I ask myself. The cheek of ol' nick standing there in front of the crowds belittling that which should be a most sacred event of Christ Jesus being the Saviour of the world, and this puny predator takes on the very role of the Messiah. Lord have mercy on this mans' arrogance. Then, this smurking deceiver named Obama sees fit to take it upon himself and ridicule the very existance of pure Christianity. He displays the qualifications of an antichrist which are all part and parcel of his satanic boasting, his violation, ignorannce and abuse towards scripture. He has implimented some of the most ungodly mandates thinkable, and gives his full support to ungodly practices and behaviour in total contradiction to what the Bible says. But will this be a bother to many Americans? Not at all. As President, anything is acceptable. For this reason also, Sowetoro/Obama whatever his name is, has insulted the very faith he pretends to uphold. There is no way this guy is a Christian. He's is a liar, cheat, an imposter, deceiver, seeking to demand control. Get rid of him before he gets rid of you.

    Beware of sheep in wolves clothing, and beware of wolves in sheeps' clothing. A double minded person is a very unstable one. One moment he's a Muslim to keep that lot happy, the next moment he's christian, to keep em happy also. (Does this ring any bells - especially alarm bells) Be warned! Beware! Be wise! Be vigilant! Discern! Check his track record, and if anything does not fit where it should; something underhanded is going on. Will the government try and cover things up? Answer. Of course they will, that's their job!

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    mary H 5 years ago

    well faCT CHECK I COMMEND YOUR DEVOTION TO THIS MAN BUT GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT/ FIRST AND FORMOST HIS :DADDY WAS ALREADY A DADDY TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA. tHE MAN WAS ALREADY MARRIED AND IN THIS COUNTRY THAT IS BIGOTRY AND NOT ACCEPTED AND FACT CHECK WHY NOT GO TOE TO TOE WITH THE EXPERTS THAT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO TELL A FAKE. ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE IS A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LISTENS TO PEOPLE YOU LIKE WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE IT SUITS YOUR PURPOSE. nO ONE CAN BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU WRITE. AND EVEN IF HIS DADDY WHO HE HADN:T SEEN SINCE BIRTH IF THEN WASN:T MARRIED HIS LOVE CHILD WAS ADOPTED BY AN INDONESIAN AND SO FAR THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISPUTED BECAUSE IT CAN:T BE

    hIS SUPPOSEDED DADDY WAS NOT A CITIZEN THUS BARRY CANNOT BEE COUNTED AS A CITIZEN. jEEZ ARE YOU PEOPLE JUST PLAIN DUMB OR DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH

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    Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    That's interesting Steph, although I don't believe in astrology,I will look into that!

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    Stephdiva 5 years ago from New york

    Obama was meant 2 win.which was proven by astrology.U can google it.Then I will post the proof.People need 2 know WE cant stop DESTINY Or Obama!

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    Dorsi Diaz 6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @tsadjatko) lol that's the best comment here so far. ROTFL.

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    TSAD 6 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

    All I know is approval ratings of President Obama are now so low the Kenyans are accusing him of having been born in the United States. :-)

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    Dorsi Diaz 6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    YW whosisbid!

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    whoisbid 6 years ago

    This is the first time I knew about this so the Hub is very useful. Thanks Dorsi

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    Howard Rich 6 years ago

    I have been surfing on-line greater than 3 hours as of late, but I never found any fascinating article like yours. It is beautiful price sufficient for me. In my opinion, if all web owners and bloggers made just right content material as you probably did, the net will likely be a lot more useful than ever before.

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    Dorsi Diaz 6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @american) I'm not sure about the name issue....so many stories are circulating but I think we need to lay this one to rest.

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    american 6 years ago

    If Obama was really born Barry, then the birth cert. may be a fake, and whoever faked it must have goofed the name, and mistakenly put his current name Barack on the cert.

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    american 6 years ago

    Was Obama really born with the name Barry, and later changed his name? I noticed the name Barack is on the birth cert., which suprises me, because I expected the name Barry on the document.

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    madeleine7 6 years ago

    All the reference sites mentioned are in obummer´s camp ( snopes, fastcheck etc). Folks , this controversy is just going to grow!!!! Obama is a lying fraud!! And just look at the damage he has done to USA in just over two years. "Lies have very short legs!!!" Go, Donald Trump!! If you want to know the truth ( well researched and NO fraudulent documents) go "the obamafile." Lt Col Larkin will end up being a real American hero. He is in jail because traitor obummer would NOT produce his birth certificate. Wake up, people!!

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    Dorsi Diaz 6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    The Frog Prince) Yes the controversy still rages!!

    @Ben Bond) No I don't discriminate against others opinions. Dialogue about this is great!

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    ben  6 years ago

    If I come back tomorrow will my statement have been approved for posting? Seeing how it alone proves the point. I'll come by then to see.

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    ben bond 6 years ago

    A COLB is no proof of birth, besides birth certificate is of no importance, obama himself admitted his father is a kenyan(under british rule)therefore making him ineligible to be POTUS

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    The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

    Dorsi - I ran across this old article since it just appeared on the page an article I wrote today about "You Have To Love This Guy." Interesting that after all this time, the controversy continues.

    The Frog

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    Dorsi Diaz 6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    @american) The speculation continues. This is one of those subjects that people feel vehemently about,one way or the other. Thanks for reading.

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    american 6 years ago

    obama took a trip in 1991 to a country that americans were not allowed to travel. he used another birth certificate and passport to travel. why? he also went to school in indonisia which would not allow an american citizen to go to their schools. how do you explain this fact check? it doesn't take a rocket scientist. btw didn't the people of fact check contribute a lot of money for obama's run for the presidencie? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Dorsi Diaz 6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Obama Birth Certificate) Yes that would end speculation, wouldn't it?

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    Obama Birth Certificate 6 years ago

    If this birth certificate is in fact the real deal, then why doesn't Obama address it publicly to put an end to the unrest?

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    gaelicgranny 7 years ago

    you people are amazing.........all the moderates and the crooks in washington are turning our country towards socialism...................if you wanted socialism move to another country. As for its all about racism..why is it if any one says nay about bho or his cronies they are racists, but they and you all say crap about the conservatives, tea partiers and its all right....its so pathetic to listen to all the fencehangers and moderates, and liberals go on and on about the changes, and how just give him time, and blah..blah..blah..............when the revolution hits because you all sold our country to the scumbags in washington....don't come crying to us...we tried to tell you!!!

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Hummingbird) I agree

    and A Blind Man) You make some good points

    Thanks for stopping by, reading and commenting

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    A Blind Man 7 years ago

    Hummingbird, the problem is, peace is truly unobtainable(sp?) without some form of conflict happening prior to it. To make matters worse, conflict usually occurs during times of peace, or just in general really. War is brought about when one ideal clashes with another. When one ideal wins, peace may seem possible, but another ideal will step forth and fight, thus repeating the same actions over and over. Its a never ending process that creates and destroys. Its the simple fact of life.

    And as for the reason why anyone would consider those against the war no good, it may have more to do with the fact that our country was attacked. I still recall when it happened and I still remember how much hatred resonated from it. But then again I'm stll against it, so I think my opinion is more bias(sp?) than anything.

    Also I'm new to this particular thing so bear with me.

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    Hummingbird5356 7 years ago

    A good hub. It is obvious that Obama's birth was checked before he even became a senator. This was just something to add to the smear campaign.

    He needs time to undo past mistakes. Clinton also was a good president, his mistake was liking women too much.

    It also seems to be that anyone who is against war in US government is considered no good. Why is that?

    The world needs peace not war. Some of the recent wars have not helped the world at all. In fact, they have made it a more dangerous place.

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Thanks everyone that came by to read- and zzron) Thanks for linking here, I'll check your hub too!

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    zzron 7 years ago from Houston, TX.

    I think we may have a conspiracy here. I linked my new hub about this topic to your hub. I hope you will take a look. Thanks.

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    Don 7 years ago

    President Obama purposely did not prove to the world that he was natural born citizen of the United States in order to put the Tea Party movement on a "goose chase!" I guess it worked because every court case they filed was thrown out. What fools the birthers were made out to be by Mr. Obama. Is Rand Paul a birther?

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Thanks for coming by Mike and for the links!

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    Mike 7 years ago

    Hey keir, not sure where you are getting your info, but there are plenty of real Hawaiian long form birth certificates.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=124656

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105347

    You obviously haven't done much research on the subject, but that's not surprising.

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    keir) good post Keir. Especially since you have a BC like Obamas!

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    keir 7 years ago

    It is a Republican govenor of Hawaii that says they have the original of the BC. They do not give out the original.

    I have a question...where was Obama's mom? Why is Kenya not stamped on her passport for Aug. 1961? I guess Homeland Security is in on the fraud? As well as the Republican govenor and the people in charge of the filing of the BCs in Hawaii. Also that quick plane ride from hawaii to Africa to Hawaii..in 1961 when they had perpeller planes and new moms who are breast feeding was not allowed on..milk dried up..air pressure hurt babies also.

    All this hallaballoo...is it concern or racism? My original BC never did have the name of the hospital or doctor on it(born 1948). I had to get a new copy and it looks just like Obama's. Oh and the BC that the Lawyer, dentist, nutter Orley Tates had? It was from Australia... So, so far Obama has been born in Australia, Indonesia, Africa and the States..and the only place that Stanley Obama was in 1961 was Hawaii(which is a state). So I expect Obama to walk on water...because he beats the virgin birth..his was multi long distance.

    So you nutters...suck it up. Obama was not adopted by the indonesian. He was a natural Born citizen, because his nother was a citizen. If you think both parents have to be born here, or you have to be born here..then we have some Founders that became presidents, that would be breaking the Citizenship Clause.

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Birdman) I'm not feeling any remorse about voting for Obama. I knew when he got elected that he had alot to have to deal with, economy falling apart, and health care issues. I have been in the position of not having healthcare, and understand the unfairness. Jury still out on the certificate of live birth, I suppose everything will come out in the wash, one way or another.

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    Birdman34 7 years ago

    I hope whoever voted for this guy is feeling voters remorse right about now...

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    garynew) thanks, that's about one of the sanest comments I've heard. You sir are correct on that one...lol!

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    garynew 7 years ago from Dallas, TX and Sampran, Thailand

    I am very conservative, but I think you have to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on this one because, although he was there, I highly doubt he has any recollection of the event, wherever it took place.

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    Pamela Lipscomb 7 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

    Well I guess the Ku Klux Klan is trying a different approach! LOL!

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    crazyjack 7 years ago

    and probably u can go thru this site too, if u have time.

    gud luck.

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    crazyjack 7 years ago

    wow !! what had to be done, has been done ! but the debate still rages on. more than one year into office, he hasn't still shown his "real" certificate.

    seriously Dorsi, i would love to know, how u feel now about him being the president ?

    ever heard of Ron Paul ?

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    democratic senate 7 years ago

    only in america :)

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    Dorsi Diaz 7 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    The debate over Barack Obamas citizenship rages on...we are now into the Presidents second year in office yet rumors are still floating around about the Presidents eligibility. As I stated before, it looks like this will be a subject of interest for quite some time. Thanks everyone who stopped by to read and comment on Obamas birth certificate/certificate of live birth controversy!

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    vrajavala 7 years ago from Port St. Lucie

    I see that this post was written over a year ago. Okay. Let's say that he was born in Hawaii. Okay, I will agree to that. However, my dear, quite interestingly, neither of the Presidential candidates, John s. McCain, nor Barack H Obama is/was qualified, and that is why the Republican Party was not all over him. Now the senate Democrats did pass a "resolution" saying that McCain was "eligible", but they have no authority to do that. The Supreme Court has judicial powers, not the Senate. The Senate pulled in a couple of Harvard lawyers who said okay, John McCain has 2 American parents, but he wasn't born on American soil". that's okay.

    (NOT OKAY)

    Did they ever say anything about Obama . No. Remember, this was a Democratic Senate the Resolution was co-sponsored by Obama!!!

    Remember Barry's father was a British subject, so, according to British Nationality Act of 1948, Barry was a British subject, as were all of BHO's Sr.'s children.

    "divided loyalties" ring a bell?

    So, I don't care if Barry was born in the Oval Office, he is n0t eligible, because he is, at best a dual citizen.

    The other thing is that he was adopted by an Indonesian step father, which means that Barry became an Indonesian citizen.

    Basically, to be a "natural born citizen" means 2 american parents, born on American soil.

    the birth certificate is a diversion. Barry is a British-Wall St puppet.

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    Caterino 7 years ago from Greenville South Carolina

    It doesn't really matter when or where you are born, if your politics suck, they suck.

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    ginosblog 7 years ago from Florida

    I guess I must have missed the Dr.s signature on whatever you want to call that paper. I call it toilet paper. The point is if there was not a problem he would have done the same as McCain and laid it all out for the people to be proud of him and not have a cloud over his Whafro head. That's a mix between White American and Afro American if you were wondering. Did you know the first lady was an attorney in Ill. and had her license revoked. The point is there are things that should be out there no buried.

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    Nan Mynatt 7 years ago

    Dorsi, Good Article. I have a copy of Obama's birth certificate. He was born with a dual citizenship, one of the U.S. and one from Kenya from his father, as was sandard in Africa. He didn't claim his citizenship in KENYA. He only used his American Citizenship. People are prejudice, and I believe will always be prejudice. They prefer blonds over brunettes, blue eyes over brown. It is personal preference. Ivy League school over a standard university, and so on. I think that he had a tremendous undertaking, and under the circumstances doing quite well. He took over a job that the previous President had taken the US down to depression! People don't like changes! Never did and never will!

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    borderraven 7 years ago

    Dorsi says: ..."(the constitution has 3 qualifications for presidency: you must be at least 35 years old, be born in the United States and have been a resident of the United States for at least 14 years)"...

    The US Constitution says: "No person except a natural born Citizen, ... shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

    Barack Hussein Obama II, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, an on that date an original long form birth certificate was initiated by hospital staff. Since 1961, Hawaii has gone digital, and now produces a computer generated, laser-printed document, on continuous-feed computer forms. However, the original paper records from 1961, were not destroyed, and remain accessible, if only by final court order, under seal per Executive Order 13489—Presidential Records. The document displayed on FactCheck, is misleading in its reliability to verify a person meets the natural born Citizen clause of the US Constitution. "American citizen by birth", and a "natural born US citizen", are two different entities, both sharing equal rights, but only one being eligible to be POTUS. Those born of the blood OR the soil, are USA citizens. Those born of the blood AND the soil, are USA Natural Born Citizens eligible for POTUS. Immigrants are aliens who carry a passport and obey the laws. Illegal aliens don't have a passport, and don't obey the laws. Aliens do not have a birth right of USA citizenship. An alien is not subject to the Jurisdiction of the USA, as they are traveling under a passport, except both an illegal alien and an alien under passport, have not relinquished bonds to their homeland, nor established allegiance to the USA, and the citizenship of the mother transfers to the minor child. Aliens can run to or call on their consulates or Embassy, for help, since they owe allegiance to and are subject to the jurisdiction of laws and treaties, of their homeland, not the USA. A child born to an alien mother, with no known USA citizen father, on USA soil, really should not be a USA citizen, since the parent is subject to foreign jurisdiction, and has not established allegiance to the USA. Senator Barack H. Obama II, by virtue of birth to a USA citizen and an alien, on USA soil, is a USA citizen, but not an NBC, thus ineligible to be a candidate for the election of a US president. Complicit in this saga is Nancy Pelosi, since she, as senior executive, signed the two versions of the DNC nominee certifications, which were mailed to the 50 states -- one version sent to 49 states omitted the constitutional requirement phrase. Thus Nancy Pelosi defrauded a nation, by depriving the citizens of proper representation by the elected government; therefore We the People have standing for a court case, being brought by Dr. Orly Taitz. There is no birther conspiracy, or party politics, or racial motivation, but there exists a quest to validate the Constitution of the USA. At this point, I request you drop all pretense of denial, stop protecting the man known as Barack Hussein Obama II, and join in defending the Constitution.

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    Ralph Deeds 7 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

    Orly fined $20,000 by judge for misconduct.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/...

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    Ralph Deeds 7 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

    Here's Orly!

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    LeonG 7 years ago

    There are many serious and objective comments here about the genuine doubts surrounding this president you have elected to govern your country. It has nothing to do with racism because there are many blacks who have profound misgivings too. There is also some very serious and possibly very damning evidence against him where these doubts are concerned.

    Those of you who support BO make only frivolous comments in return. This is not a very convincing manner in which to deal with the problems and doubts. Why has BO paid out over one million and a half dollars to keep various documents about his origins from the public scrutiny (what is there to hide?); why is it that Ayers wrote his book "Dreams from My Father" and he has hidden this fact (who wrote his other stories about his life); why does he try to steamroller his health bill through the legislative while denying the facts contained therein about abortion as health care, fines and possible imprisonment for non-contribution to the nationalised scheme, removal of personal choice, pressure on the elderly to submit to euthanasia counselling etc etc? Read the legislation & its implications, it is all there. The list has become disconcertingly long so soon into his term in office.

    Those of you who adulate this man and who unquestioningly support his every move, like the hyppereal, superficial media that is in America these days, do a disservice to democracy long term. You do an even greater disservice to countless men and women who have given their lives to protect the freedoms we have enjoyed up to now. You are giving a highly flawed person (like most politicians) too much room for manoeuvre when you should be placing his every mode of conduct under close objective scrutiny. You all place too much naïve faith in his abilities which are already heavily exposed for what they are - over-committed to specific interest groups (ACORN for example implicated in criminal activities) and very inexperienced with no clear picture of past achievement in the proper sense of the term. You are in danger of turning the man into a dictator surrounded by unelected & irresponsible high officials whose sole interest is to perpetuate the industrial-military complex but to an even more highly centralised degree. It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to stop supercilious mocking of those who are critical in their appraisal and make a sincere effort to come to terms with some rapidly emerging realities. BO is not capable of offering you or your nation salvation - he is merely a dangerous continuation of what has been going on in USA for the best part of a generation. You are abandoning the invaluable checks and balances of the American system of government for one that is dominated by the executive and this can only have one predictable outcome.

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    ginosblog 8 years ago from Florida

    I am glad to see you put so much effort in finding out all these "nay sayers" are wrong but, my friend, you have wasted your time and if you had known what you were looking for you would not embarrass yourself with this blog. That is a Certificate of Birth you have shown...not a Birth Certificate. You being born and not hatched, should have a birth certificate. That should clear up the issue for you. Now go find the rest of Obama's background that he has spent over a million dollars to hide. Go scratch your head.

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    Dorsi Diaz 8 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Lots of good commentary and information here about the controversy over Barack Obamas birth certificate/certification of live birth, whatever you want to call it. The controversy rages on. The outcome will certainly be interesting, if there ever is one!

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    vrajavala 8 years ago from Port St. Lucie

    go back and read what it says on the forged document honey. it says Certification of Live Birth. There was a law in Hawaii since 1911, that a person could obtain one of these, even if he/she were born in a foreign land.

    Lucas smith has now obtained the Birth certificate from Kenya with the attending doctor's name and embossed seal and the name of the hospital.

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    lman 8 years ago

    Nice *wrong* totally wrong and impressionable research. Factcheck?? C'mon man. You can create and print one of those "Certificate of Live Birth" images in Photoshop in just under 5 minutes using a template. In fact, the template was on the Internet and a DailyKoS blogger got ahold of it and did the crude forgery. Since then, the certificate with through three different changes to add the missing items - the Seal, Registrar stamp, creases and more. There were three different versions of the forgery.

    If you want the low-down and some real-deal research .. go here: http://www.repubx.com/blogger/archive.aspx#Birth-C...

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    eovery 8 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

    Isn't the certificate a certificate of live birth, and not actually a birth certificate. From genealogy, the two are different, and certificate of live births are discourage from being used, and birth certificates are always wanted. Seems like there is a difference between the two, and I am not able to put my finger on it.

    Keep on Hubbing!

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    carmen 8 years ago

    obama hearing on the kenyan BC to be heard on sept. 8 2009 at 8a.m. by judge carter. the issue has gone way past the birth certificate and educational records. we are looking for honesty and integrity.

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    garhunt05 8 years ago

    I find it utterly strang that the "natural birth" clause is in effect. My father, a man who served in the navy for 32 years and has never stopped working isn't fit to be president for something he had no control over? If that isn't WTF than what isn't.

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    mp 8 years ago

    Is this for real? Does it really matter in the end? Surely there has to be a simple explanation unless its already swept under the carpet...

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    DG Muller 8 years ago

    Please read Tony Becks post and get it all in a nutshell the guy really sums it up about our imposter president and our imposter government.

    Can we please relive the 1700s and get our country back.

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    D.G. Muller 8 years ago

    Come on folks its elementary and not hard to see even through the screen of a computer the certificate of birth is a forgery and Ill show you what to look for.1st the document is in real good shape and the folds seem to be nonworn. 2nd look at the seal folks and then find an original 48 yr old legal document that has been presented at least 20 times with a seal and tell me if the indentions should protrude out as if it had just been stamped.No the seal should be relatively worn and almost flush.That document is no older than 10 yrs and it is a forgery which brings us to the ? as to why hasent the president forwarded all of his legal and medical documents and why did he hesitate about forwarding the ones that he has.Did the president really go to his dying grandmothers side for her comfort or was there another motive.

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    Sprinkler Man 8 years ago from USA

    Feel free to visit my hub on this subject - I have photos of a Certified Copy of Registration of Birth from Kenya. Not sure it is 100% Legit but it will go along way with the birthers. Why doesn't Obama just produce his original? That is the real question.

    https://hubpages.com/politics/Barack-Obama-is-not-...

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    panic away 8 years ago

    Its all very interesting and I'm all for a conspiracy theory... but it seems a bit trivial in many senses...

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    Bob 8 years ago

    ". You'd think they'd change it. McCain was born in Panama but as a US citizen so I guess that is okay. I have no idea what the rules are in Canada."

    If I'm not mistaken McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which was US territory at the time of his birth. That and he was probably born in a US military hospital, which is considered to be US soil.

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    Dorsi Diaz 8 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    Well I have to say that was quite a detailed analysis of Obama's Certificate of Live Birth. This obviously isn't going away so it would be in everyone's best interest if transparency were the word of the day. Who knows, I may end up having to wear a tin foil hat one day. Or this could be one of those conspiracies that just never goes away, even if proved untrue. Time will tell.

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    Dave 8 years ago

    That scan of a certificate has been examined by forensic expersts and declared a forgery. What ever you do don't read the technical evidence which resulted in that finding . Wouldn't want to have to deal with admitting you were wrong. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/20...

    Better to just slam the website as being neocon and hope no one actually studies the evidence. Power to the sheeple!!!

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    bill1001 8 years ago

    Thanks mate for standing with me!

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    johnwindbell 8 years ago from - the land of beards and buggies

    Very nice hub, but I wonder; are you still happy with your vote?

    Or would you say you weren't? Anyway, thank you for your vote.

    Have you seen my hub? Or would you say you did?

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    tonybeck 8 years ago

    Certificates of live birth were common place in Hawaii during 1961. Let's see his long form. Let's see his school records that show him applying for foreign student aid. He should not be opposing any of the lawsuits that are continuing to come his way if he has nothing to hide. His team is putting up quite a fight though.

    The fact is that he does have something to hide. He's a man without a country, owned by the international bankers like Soros, and that's why he doesn't care if the jobless rate hits 20%. That would help him accomplish his goals of making us all slaves of the state. Government health care is cruel and cheapens life, but that's what we should expect with the eugenics movement and Darwinism shoved down our throats for so long.

    Shame on people for supporting this imposter. He quotes the Bible about protecting the innocent, but supports killing people that can't speak for themselves, the unborn. My Messiah died on the cross and wasn't elected cult leader in chief. George Bush's second term was very bad and is a representation of how compromising your principles pisses everyone off.

    Now-a-days, it's blatantly obvious that it doesn't matter anymore if you are Republican, Democrat, Independent or whatnot. This is an ethical and moral issue. A politician either chooses to sell out to the people we never see, bankers, lobbyists, money men, etc, or they don't. We have been sold a bill of goods and I want the country to get a refund.

    We all see how weak he is when it comes to international affairs, but he's more than willing to drop the hammer on Christians, pro-lifers and others who don't swallow his Kool-Aid. When he gives a speech, it's for his own benefit, not for the audience or even the U.S. I didn't see Michelle in Cairo. The reason is that she wouldn't be able to run around in her sleeveless outfits and would have to cover up. We are spoiled with our rights and think every other country thinks the same. How naïve!

    Obama respects dictators and tyrants. He thinks the same way. All his mentors and cohorts were Communists, socialists and outright terrorists. His preacher is/was a racist, white-hating bigot. White racism is alive and well and en vogue. Millions of Americans are slaves to their own minds. Most of the roadblocks we perceive are constructed in our own minds. Nobody alive has ever been a slave nor has been a slave master. This is the white guilt phenomenon and it needs to stop because it is not healthy for our country.

    Obama got elected not because he was that great. Lord knows other than having a movie star personality, there's nothing on the resume. He was elected because the country was tired of president Bush, McCain was weak and he was the perfect affirmative action and white guilt candidate.

    The first amendment is in our Constitution not to protect polite speech, but impolite speech. Polite speech does not need protection. With political correctness the gospel of our day, any disagreement of the validity of Obama's presidency, the myth of carbon dioxide killing the planet, etc. is considered so called "hate speech."

    I agree with General Patton when he said that if everyone is thinking the same, someone isn't thinking. I pray that sooner, not later, the country snaps out of the Obama spell. He doesn't walk on water, can't heal the sick, nor can he lower the sea levels. Being a verbal rapist, adament about killing God's children and having a white mother aren't qualifications to be president.

    God Bless

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    Jon Abrahamson 8 years ago

    Is that Annenburg factcheck. org? Wasn't Obama chairman of the board of Annenburg in the mid 90's? Isn't that a conflict of interest? Personally I trust Obama as much as Bush!

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    someonewhoknows 8 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

    Ralph Deeds made a comment 8 months ago where he quotes a u.s. district judge who said that Philip J. Burg's allegation that Obama was not eligible to run for president caused harm was too "vague" and "attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters

    Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

    A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot. Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president. He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised. U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday. Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24. They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself. Surrick agreed. In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters. Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

    A Certificate (or Certification) of Live Birth was instituted in Hawaii when it went from being a US territory to an actual state. EVERYONE was issued a Certificate (or Certification) of Live Birth because so many people were born elsewhere (Japan, the Philippines, etc.) A Certificate of Live Birth is not a Birth Certificate and does not state the original place of birth. If you wanted to become a citizen of the US you were eventually issued a Certificate (or Certification) of Live Birth, no matter from where you had emigrated. The real question here is: Why doesn't Obama himself clear up this controversy? It would be so simple, rather than have all these different liberal and conservative sites arguing the issue over and over. Lawsuits have even been filed. So why not clear it up once and for all? Why?

    My take on the matter after reading all of the comments here is "Obama as well as others around him the situation in Hawaii and used it to confuse the facts,and make it difficult but not impossible to find out the truth.If yoo are persistant the truth will come out.

    The problem is he is president already,and can do what he wants ,even arrest you for trying to bring out the truth,if it will hurt him.He is not alone .I can see that.

    If you think you really have a choice for president

    other than what you are given to pick from ,I have an immaginary bridge I can sell you.

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    acer laptop 8 years ago

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    SCOTT HAMILTON 8 years ago

    THAT IS NOT AN ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. THAT IS A RECENT COPY OR FORGERY. THERE ARE OTHER MORE AUTHENTIC ORIGINAL LOOKING BIRTH CERTIFICATES ON THE NET WITH OBAMAS INFO. ONLY ONE PROBLEM, NONE ARE FROM AMERICA. THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATES FROM HAWAII AROUND 1961 DO NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE ONE HE HAS. THE ONE HE HAS IS NOT ORIGINAL. HE IS HOLDING BACK THE ORIGINAL BECAUSE IF HE SHOWED IT, IT WOULD INVALIDATE HIM FROM BEING PRESIDENT YOU PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE WOOL PULLED OVER YOUR EYES. GIVE HIM A COUPLE YEARS AND YOU WILL BE PRAYING TO GOD FOR YOUR POOR CHOICE. SCOTT

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    Madame X 8 years ago

    A Certificate (or Certification) of Live Birth was instituted in Hawaii when it went from being a US territory to an actual state. EVERYONE was issued a Certificate (or Certification) of Live Birth because so many people were born elsewhere (Japan, the Philippines, etc.) A Certificate of Live Birth is not a Birth Certificate and does not state the original place of birth. If you wanted to become a citizen of the US you were eventually issued a Certificate (or Certification) of Live Birth, no matter from where you had emigrated. The real question here is: Why doesn't Obama himself clear up this controversy? It would be so simple, rather than have all these different liberal and conservative sites arguing the issue over and over. Lawsuits have even been filed. So why not clear it up once and for all? Why?

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    Marcus Aurelius 8 years ago

    You guys have the FL 2000 conspiracy nuts and 9/11 conspiracy nuts, we have our birth certificate conspiracy nuts. That puts you up one conspiracy.

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    Marcus Aurelius 8 years ago

    You guys have the FL 2000 conspiracy nuts and 9/11 conspiracy nuts, we have our birth certificate conspiracy nuts. That puts you up one conspiracy.

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    bgpappa 8 years ago from Sacramento, California

    He didn't mess up the swearing in, the Chief Justice did. As for the Bible, there is no requirement that he use a Bible. Only that he takes the oath.

    Great Hub by the way, you do amazing work.

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    Joe G 8 years ago

    Now if only he had taken the oath of office correctly.

    Fist time it was screwed up, second time, no Bible.

    Groovey

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    Derrick 8 years ago

    Agreed. However, I was addressing the misinformation on your site. I understand many don't have the time or desire to research this stuff - which what Obama is counting on. But, what you called "real evidence" and "real proof" was nothing more than a regurgitation of liberal media and not objective fact-finding.

    Obama HAS NOT provided a Certifacte of Live Birth, only a Certification, which proves nothing. Obama has millions, including you, fooled into thinking that the document on his site and Fact Check proves his citizenship.Fact Check, an Annenberg company, had Obama sitting on its board at one time - real objective reporting there.

    I will credit Obama with seizing the ripe opportunity to rally the poor and uneducated masses into believe his message of "change". Sadly enough, they didn't even know what they were voting for. One poll showed that many didn't even know the name of his running mate!

    In four years the voters will be begging for a new president. Obama will get a first hand taste of what Bush went through. An uneducated majority that blames all of their shortcomings on one man. Unfortunately, this uneducated majority is what we will be forced to cater to as we head down the path to becoming a third world country.

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    Dorsi Diaz 8 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

    I will repeat what I said earlier, if there is a conspiracy - it involves multiple government agencies, and if there has been any crime committed the courts will handle it.

    It won't be settled here in this article on the comments page.

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    Derrick 8 years ago

    **READ THIS FOR THE REAL FACTS**

    People, people, people. Listen up and let me educate you on some Citizenship 101.

    Don't be so desparate for this Obama fairy tale that you will LIE to yourself!!

    I researched this THOROUGHLY and here are the facts:

    Obama has only shown a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH. The official "vault version", or long version, is a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. The Certificate shows the doctor, hospital, and all detailed info (see one here: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/... Mind you we are talking 1961 here and Hawaii became a state in 1959. CERTIFICATIONS are NO LONGER issued (as on 1972) because they are worthless. You CANNOT even enroll your child into little league with one (i know someone who tried).

    Don't believer me?

    Obama has everyone fooled into thinking that this proves his birthplace. He is using the Certification because it only lists generic information and has the Hawaii on it. As usual, he know the average person is not educated enough to know the difference. This will not be the only trick he has pulled.

    Birth announcement: Anyone can put an ad in the paper. Big deal. Obamas own sister actually said Barack was born in one hospital and he said another. His own grandmother is on tape saying he was born in Mombasa Kenya.

    So, the document on this site is worthless. And if you buy into it, you are in for a huge disappointment down the road. The truth will come out someday its just a matter of when.

    Oh yeah, and how did obama travel to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport in 1981? don't believe me, read his book! Everything i use is from him or what is missing.

    Food for thought: Obama and the DNC have spent over $1 million in legal fees to avoid having to provide a birth certificate. Why not just pay the $15, get a copy, and shut everyone up. Action speak louder than anything.

    Glad we now have everyone on the same page. Dorsi, back to the drawing board. I will be REALLY surprised if this post stays up and is not censored like Obama does everyone he dislikes. The liberals have sensitive ears.

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    joer4x4 8 years ago from Philadelphia, PA

    Actually Fact.org did a poor job. They admit to verifying a "COPY" of the certificate. The folks down in Hawaii contend the original is not available and don't give a reason. Only absolute proof can be obtained from the original. This is what the controversy is all about.

    This is not to say the copy isn't correct. But every other candidate for president had to produce an original. Obama was given a free pass here. Besides, that live birth certificate is missing some information like where the birth took place.

    Fact.org is a nice starting point but they are not very good in the verification department. After they go to the source their job ends. They certainly don't seem to evaluate, compare, or look into the history of a given event to determine if the source is truly honest.

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    Gary Anderson 8 years ago from Las Vegas, Nevada

    Nice that you set the record straight, Dorsi.

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    Erick Smart 8 years ago

    Personally I feel that when the Constitution was drafted we had no way of knowing just how many US citizens would be born on military bases in the future. You cannot take away the right to be President when their parents were serving this country.

    As for Barack's particular case this subject came up before the election and the voters were not concerned. They have spoken and this should be the end of it.

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    born to be free 8 years ago

    I agree with Howard above. If you study the way the Hawaii Constitution was written at that time, you learn that you did not have to be a natural born citizen to obtain a certificate of live birth in Hawaii. But on the other hand, we have to deal with that small little Newspaper announcement of his birth. What I would love to hear is living testimony from people who were present in Hawaii at the time of his birth, they could testify yea or nay. With technology as it is today, you would be somewhat foolish to take any document as being authentic.