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People standing in front of Walmart ask for money

Updated on June 9, 2016


The most irritating part of shopping at Wal-Mart, Target, groceries stores, and similar places is people that accost you at the door and those people that beg as you leave. I support charities through Sunrise Church, my school, and people I know because there is accountability. Most people who donate do so through verifiable sources. Solicitors and petitioners should not be allowed to harass shoppers. Have you ever experienced any of these situations?


Kids sell candy to go to Knotts Berry Farm


It doesn’t make sense for a child to sell snickers outside the store for $1 which can be purchased inside the store for 69 cents. The candy inside the store probably has a later expiration date. The kids will explain that they are trying to make money to go to camp. I have seen several of my own students selling candy in shopping centers 10 to 15 miles from home. One teen explained to me that an adult drops students off at various locations and picks them up later. The camping trip is a one day bus trip to Knotts Berry Farm or Magic Mountain. It is a nuisance to customers entering and leaving the stores. I’m sure any sales students make is because people feel sorry for them. This is a potentially dangerous situation for children and teenagers. Where are the parents and guardians?


Person information on petitions

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Do not sign that petition!


Several years ago I was approached to sign a petition about something. I can’t even remember what it was for. Suddenly, the petitioner lined up other petitions for me to sign. I said, “No1” The next time I was accosted, the petitioner said the petition was about “teachers not teaching anything.” I was highly offended and let the person know that I work hard for my check. These petitioners have no idea of what they are getting people to sign. They can’t answer any questions about the petitions. They get paid by the signature. They will never make money off of me.


There is also the vulnerability to identity theft. Do not let the petitioners engage you.


Where is your 501(c)3 permit?

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Fake charities solicit donations!


The very worse annoyance is people sitting outside the store in lawn chairs. The name of some alleged neighborhood shelter is scrawled in ink on a white poster board. They try to shame you into giving a donation. I now suggest that the solicitors contact my church which is very involved in community outreach.


There should be a law that allows shoppers to shop in peace.


Know where your money goes

I advocate giving to charities. It is more blessed to give than receive. There are many opportunities to give and know that your money is being used for its intended purpose. Many employers have programs for tax deductible donations to be distributed among vetted charities. Make sure you agree with charities supported by your employer. Donations to churches are as good as the accountability of the churches themselves. The church should be properly licensed and providing full accountability of all monies received and paid out. There are opportunities to donate directly to charities online. Being online does not prove legitimacy. Check for complaints against the organization and look at financials to see what percentage of donations goes to salaries and staff morale. In this economy, we need to know where our money is going and know that we have legitimate tax deductions.

Should there be a solicitation law?

Are you annoyed with the soliciations in front of stores?

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 15 months ago from Fontana

      The legit ones are cool savvy! I love the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. I also donate at school by helping kids in my classes. I know the desperate need when I see them day to day. Some are homeless. Many need clothes and shoes. You can't help everyone so it is important to be judicious.

      Thank you for stopping by!

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      savvydating 15 months ago

      The lawn chair thing is annoying because they're not legitimate charities, but otherwise, the solicitors don't bother me all that much. I actually like seeing the boy scouts---I think they're adorable. I also appreciate seeing the Salvation Army during Christmas.

      However, there are some homeless people hanging out near the parking lot areas at Wal-Mart. I suspect they're not allowed to be near the doors. Most of the time, I don't carry cash on me, but I've wondered if they would appreciate some of my food. So far, I haven't offered any. So, I guess I have mixed emotions because I don't know if they're really homeless...or what is really going on. Sometimes, it's not as obvious as at other times.

      But, having been raised really poor, I try to help when I can. I know you do the same through your church. But as for solicitors, I guess I am not as bombarded as you have been. Interesting article though, and food for thought.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 19 months ago from Fontana

      Praise God Shae! I know there are people who have a real need because of unfortunate circumstances. Your husband showed integrity and a great work ethic by washing cars. I'm glad you have a beautiful home now.

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      shae 19 months ago

      i was homeless for a year.but thanks to the community i am in,they supported our family of five.people made fun sometimes while my husband stood out all day selling car washes. Now we have a beautiful condo and a business

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 2 years ago from Fontana

      Thank you for your comment Falapio! The benefit of knowing multiple languages is the ability to beg in each language.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 2 years ago from Fontana

      Chen, we have 99 Cent Stores in California. The stores post signs,"Don't give money to solicitors and they will go away." So your approach is definitely the thing to do.

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      Falapio 2 years ago

      Engllish seems to be getting more and more iranmtpot these days because we live in a global integrated world and communication between foreign countries has become so frequent and necessary. Besides, people in general are attending English courses to get better marks at school, better jobs or just for fun.

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      ChenChenMungus 3 years ago

      Having tried many ways to keep my peace walking the gauntlet Walmart entrance, my only success is a big pair of dark sunglasses and obvious headphones. In their minds, I cannot be guilted. I don't notice them, don't hear them, don't have to not look at them because as far as they know, I am deep in trance lisstening to music and no eyes to contact. This is such a great feeling to render them helpless in accosting me.

      Oh I hear them failing to get my attention and it is wonderful.

      My goal is to keep my emotional happiness in situations that are set up for me to give in to their demands to keep emotional happiness. That is the scam they run. They know you are trading dollars for peace. I am not angry, I am not intimidated and I am not a loser that pays extortion bucks for an easy entrance and exit to buy milk.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 3 years ago from Fontana

      Lawn chairs do send a different message! It is better going through the garden exit for those reasons. I think my awareness of sources of help might prejudice me a little. Between my church, other churches, and community organizations, I feel sources of help already exist. One large amount can help more people that lots of people collecting $25 or $30 a day.

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      Yes 3 years ago

      yes, i hate going in from the main entrance of wal-mart having to pass the folks sitting on lawn chairs asking for handouts. I would have no issues giving to a needy person (do it all the time when they don't ask), but fat ppl sitting comfortably in front asking for handouts and giving you an attitude when you don't donate annoys the shit out of me. i just go in from the lawns and garden section. more parking spaces and less ppl at the checkout.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 3 years ago from Fontana

      Thank you Express10. Clearly it isn't a black and white issue.

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      H C Palting 3 years ago from East Coast

      The irritated mom has her view but I respectfully disagree. If they took offense to my specific comment, I stated exactly how I felt as did they however, I expressed myself without the equivalent of screaming and used some common knowledge, real world examples. I see no problem with that. I have been irritated when I've donated going in, I was again asked for another donation coming out...by the same people.

      Perhaps getting turned down for donations is stressful or being an irritated mom is stressful but putting oneself into the shoes of the shoppers may provide insight to their specific irritations with this method of fundraising. After all, shoppers are going to a store for a reason and that reason isn't to donate or be asked for money for things they didn't intend to spend it on or donate to, also known as personal finance 101.

      Before incorrect assumptions are made, I speak from experience having worked for local charities and as a shopper. I fully understand that this method of fundraising nets a minuscule amount, if anything for the annual budgets particularly for the local charities that help the homeless or hungry.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 3 years ago from Fontana

      Thank you for your comments Irritated Mom. For the past week, Girl Scouts having had tables set up outside the local grocery store. There were 2 or 3 parents at the table each time I went by. I have no problem with legitimate organizations. When people collect for homeless shelters and the like, I refer them to my church. My church does a lot for the homeless in the community and I contribute to my church.

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      Irritated Mom 3 years ago

      As the VP of a Little League in AZ some of these comments are rediculous! Parents aren't teaching their children to beg, it's to help teach their children how to COMMUNICATE, how to talk to people, how to promote their COMMUNITY sport or school event!!! Second, if you're shopping and don't want to donate, DON'T!! Simple as that.. Being rude and thinking your "cute comments" back to an association are funny is NOT needed!!! I hope one day NONE of you have children in sports who need to raise money! I hope NONE of you need to raise money for a funeral! Or will need a FREE meal from a homeless shelter because without donations these programs wouldn't be avail to the community!!

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 3 years ago from Fontana

      Thank you enoughalready2! I'm surprised some of these kids haven't been kidnapped. There are more than 3500 homeless kids in our school district. My students are bringing canned goods so we can make Thanksgiving baskets.

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      enoughalready2 3 years ago

      It's irritating. What I see here in Fl is:

      Do you want to donate to my cheerleading team, or do you want to donate to our softball team? These people usually have an adult sitting in a chair by them, and they are usually of working age.

      My comment to them is - do you want to donate to my medical bills, or do you want to donate to my grocery bill? This usually stop them from talking, then I can move on to take care of the business I came to Walmart to do.........not donate to those I don't even know if they are a cheerleader or play softball.

      Parents - stop teaching your children how to beg and teach them how to work for what they want or need.

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      Hawaiian Odysseus 4 years ago from Southeast Washington state

      Diane, you present a very good case, and I'm simultaneously feeling an enthusiastic "Yeah! Right on!" and a sheepish "You know, I could have said something, but I just walked away from it..."

      Good for you, Diane! Thanks for sharing!

      Joe

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      It just happened over the weekend. we will see.

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      H C Palting 4 years ago from East Coast

      Oh my goodness! I hope the murderer rots in jail. That is so sad.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      Express10 did you hear about the shopper who refused to give a beggar money as he entered the store. When the shopper returned to his car, the beggar poored gasoline inside the car and lit a match. The shopper was severely burned and died after two days in the hospital. The beggar, known by everyone in the neighborhood, was arrested for attempted murder. He was re-charged with murder after the shopper died.

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      H C Palting 4 years ago from East Coast

      When I go to a store, large or small, it is because I need something from that store. I don't want or need to have my patience tested just outside the doors, in the parking lot, or inside. I don't care if it is for a non profit, a children's sports team, girl scouts, Red Cross, etc. I go to the store only for that purpose and don't want to be solicited. I make donations to the organizations and groups that I support that do not hang out and pester people in front of stores.

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      jep101 4 years ago

      I would like everyone to know that Walmart is very strict on who they allow to solicit out front of their stores. If they do not have a verifiable 501c3 non profit status from the government they are not allowed to solicit and it is actually very hard to get your organization out there! I know, because i am involved with a bonafide charity that asks for donations in front of walmart. The money goes towards funding our food pantry in which we feed 700 ppl on a weekly basis! We really need the help from the public. With the state of our economy we may all soon need help from charities like mine. Please give and help charities. If you question them, ask to see their non profit status, and ask where their office is located! If they can't present, don't donate.

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      The Toxic Avenger 4 years ago

      Encountered the same scenario you described, yesterday in front of the Walmart in the Stone Crest shopping center. An old, black dude sitting at a table with an official looking sign attached. The sign claimed he was soliciting for the non profit, "Building a Solid Foundation." My "bullshit" detector alerted, so I decided to ask this piece of human garbage some pertinent questions (e.g. Where is your office/recovery house located? Do you have a phone number for them?) I carefully watched this miscreant as he responded, noticing his hostility increasing with each probing question. Upon my exiting the Walmart, I observed this malodorous scam artist had moved to a different location.

      With the Obama depression of 2014 closing in on us, please support the ANPRP.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 5 years ago from Fontana

      A lady and man told me they ran out of gas a couple of blocks away. I offered to get gas and take it to their car. They backed away. I know this was a lie.

      Uniforms - I wish schools would use uniforms. It would take a lot of pressure off families and students.

      Jean I heard that some of those people saying they are vets are lying; however, when in doubt, give if you can.

      PinkPoodle, people have used this as an opportunity to rob someone. A lady asked me for a dime. When I looked up, she was exposing a butcher knife in her bosom. I hurriedly found a dime. Thank God that was all she needed.

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      Jean Bakula 5 years ago from New Jersey

      It's a tough choice. I give to Veterans even though I take an anti war stance, because they served the country, and it's pitiful that the American Gov't., which claims to be so patriotic, does not cover their own military people's health and other issues. Most elementary schools sell junk nobody wants to get uniforms and items for sports teams, but those come home so the parents can see them, and are normally brought to work with the adults. It would seem local businesses could chip in for stuff like that. If you are alone and outside in the dark, hold on to your purse or wallet.

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      PnkPoodleBohannon 5 years ago

      If I have money in my pocket, sometimes I will donate a dollar or two to those with tables outside of Wal-mart or the grocery store. However, if I have to open my purse to count out monies, I will not donate. I feel very uncomfortable standing outside looking for money in my purse.

      Last Christmas as I was walking out of Wal-mart to my car, a man approached me for money. The man stated that his daughter had been in an accident and had been admitted to a local hospital. He needed money for gas so he could return home. The story sounded plausible but I wasn’t about to dig in my purse because there were plenty of people going out and coming to Wal-Mart. However, I think he targeted me because I was alone, a good target for a scam!

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 5 years ago from Fontana

      The ones hiding behind bogus charities...yes! Last Monday a lady walked up to me with her 4 or 5 year old son. She spoke Spanish only. I looked at her son and knew she was legit. I had nothing smaller so I gave $5 to her son - no problem.

      Thursday a homeless man asked for a dollar. Nothing smaller again so I gave him $5. There was visible evidence in both cases that the money was needed.

      Someone sitting out in a lawn chair with a handwritten sign about a rehab center ... uh uh!

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      Josak 5 years ago from variable

      Ah those darned poor people begging what a nuisance! Why don't they jut eat cake right?