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Dateline: Purgatory - Darlie Routier Book

Updated on February 12, 2017
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I have always had a fascination with true crime and legal system that has many times falsely accused and sentence and even sometimes killed.

Darlie has been almost 20 years in prison and still has held to her innocence of the crime she was convicted of.
Darlie has been almost 20 years in prison and still has held to her innocence of the crime she was convicted of. | Source

Kathy Cruz Investigation

A new look at an old mystery.

Dateline: Purgatory is a fairly recent book out by Kathy Cruz. I was very anxious to read it knowing it would lead me through all the trial and days of the trial and conviction of Darlie Routier.

I have read through the court documents so much and I have read 1001 views of others. I find that quite a few of us (myself being one) who had no doubts that Darlie did this looked at it differently once we found out there was more than one scene at the silly string grave party that showed two sides of this mother. We only saw what the prosecution wanted us to see. (Much like the biased press of today.)

Kathy tells us how Dana, Darlie's younger sister has had a lifetime now of guilt being the one to bring the silly string and possibly causing the prosecution to have a ploy to convince not only the jury this made Darlie guilty but perhaps the general public.

It does seem clear in this reading that the jury will only see what the prosecution wants them to see. It is undeniable that the defense put little if any effort in this trial and objected to very little.

So it is very easy to see how a jury could be persuaded. So very much they do not see of what they should have and on one important issue they are even lied to.

Yet this does not call for a new trial? Let's see what you think from the information in this book.


Dateline Purgatory is full of food for thought for how this trial went.
Dateline Purgatory is full of food for thought for how this trial went. | Source

So Many Things Missed!

Such a sad excuse for a lawyer!

Several friends saw the sores in Darlie’s mouth and fed her ice to help the pain she is having even being half out of it. She was also heavily medicated the day of the silly string and suffering from dry mouth and was why she was acting loopy and smacking gum someone had given her for dry mouth her friends claim.

Could Darlie have been knocked out with ether or xylene it is questioned. Since these both were easy to obtain in 1996 for auto parts but also for building computer hard drives. This would answer so much of Darlie's actions and her sore mouth. This would have wiped out memory of the happenings and possibly struggle with someone trying to kill her and certainly answer all the confusion she had.

Neither of the Routier’s cars are in the driveway this night and the sports car is broken down. They were preparing to leave for vacation and did someone perhaps not seeing any cars think they were already gone?

They claimed no dust was wiped from the window that someone was supposed to have come through and the dirt was not disturbed. Darlie’s best friend’s husband (Kenneth Waits) said he checked this out after her sentencing and there was no dirt beneath the window to be disturbed and not only that but the big window was only about six inches off the ground which meant anyone could step right through it not having to disturb dust. He said they lied about all of that that was listed in her arrest affidavit. (Why did the defense not check any of this out?)

ugh the murders of her two sons instead of suggesting she may have been unconscious during that time which greatly affected the jury’s thinking. Did no one on the defense team question her muddled memory and what could possibly cause it if not the sliced throat?

Was there ever any suspect besides Darlie?
Was there ever any suspect besides Darlie? | Source

Tired of being Daisy Duke

Darlie asked Darin for a divorce just hours before the attacks on her and her sons. She said she did not feel like being Daisy Duke for him anymore dressing sexy in front of her sons was starting to bother her conscience and they were fighting about it often. So this was not the first time she threatened to divorce him; other times he threatened to hurt himself in front of their sons if she left him; but this time he just went upstairs and went to bed.

Working free for belief in Darlie's innocence

Stephen Cooper became Darlie’s court appointed lawyer in 1997 after her conviction no doubt because she had no more funds for a lawyer but this lawyer has gone on representing her at no charge because he believes in her innocence as so many have.

Several witnesses told the police they had seen a black car just before these murders. That they appeared to be watching the Routier house! Why would they lie? (The book will also tell you about a white truck that Darlie reported seeing that day and the connection it could have to two criminal thugs who claimed to have done some stabbing that night!)

Terry Laber and Bart Epstein, blood splatter experts, were prepared to testify that Darlie had not staged a crime scene but were never called to testify by Darlie’s Lawyer Mulder! They had already been paid except for travel expense to come testify. Mulder did not think they had anything to add to the case so he did not call them. With practically nothing for the defense why would he make this choice?

The defense kept claiming that Darlie slept through the murders of her two sons instead of suggesting she may have been unconscious during that time which greatly affected the jury’s thinking. Did no one on the defense team question her muddled memory and what could possibly cause it if not the sliced throat?

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Convenient Afterthoughts?

Casting doubt

Mulder claimed he was only Darin’s lawyer for less than 60 seconds when he was accused of breaking a gag order he had not been cautioned about. If Darlie was the only client then to save her life why did he not mention Darlie asking him for a divorce or mention the high insurance on Darlie’s life which the jury never got to hear about? He did bring it up for the sentencing…would that not have been important to at least put one doubt in the jury's mind?

Reasonable doubt?

A partial bloody print that still has not been identified.
A partial bloody print that still has not been identified. | Source

Unidentified fingerprint

The unidentified bloody partial fingerprint that was found on a glass sofa table by crime scene investigator James Con, between the room of the attacks and the kitchen was said during trial to be of a child’s between the age of five and six. After the trial a forensic anthropologist said it was a print of an unidentified adult. Although a scan of it could very well name the owner if the print is clear enough; law enforcement has to make that request and so far they clearly have no intent of doing so.

Is Darlie Routier Guilty?

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1. It was not at first known how the necklace became embedded but after removal two nicks were found in the necklace. The necklace could have well been what kept a main artery from being severed.

2. Investigator who questioned Darlie in hospital did not use recordings or written notes.

3. It wasn’t until five years after Darlie’s conviction that Darin confessed to plotting a break in for insurance scam.

4. With the growing number of influential people convinced of Darlie's innocence why can no one help her?

5.The sock in the alley contained Damon’s blood and no blood trail from Darlie was found meaning if she inflicted her own wounds it had to be after she stabbed him and since he was still living when the first respondent's arrived it meant he had to have been stabbed just minutes before not allowing the timeline it would have taken for Darlie to have done it and this from courtroom testimony. So Darlie had to be ruled out as the one to do this. No one bothered.

6. Sarilda, Darlie’s mother-in-law saw a mass of black bruises under Darlie’s hospital gown on her body not in view. Was this photographed? A nurse called these defense wounds.

7. Sandy Aitken, Darin’s aunt noted the judge went to sleep 16 times during the trial and was asleep seriously when the Rowlett Police Lieutenant James Walling was testifying about handling of bloody crime scene evidence some of which he put in the car and defense attorneys concerned with inexperienced police officers putting articles in the same bag making transference a possibility changing the interpretation of blood splatter.

8. All the evidence has been kept in brown grocery bags since 1996; moved around and back and forth when it should have been vacuum sealed! (You can see them in video below.)

9. The material found in the bread knife they claimed were from the screen was also consistent with fibers in a brush they would have used over fingerprints. Charles Linch who did this testing on this had been hospitalized for alcoholism and depression just previous to this which was not known until years later.

10. Why does the information sent back to the jury by court reporter Sandra Halsey saying the utility door was locked (which it was not but the garage door was locked) make grounds for a new trial? They had to wonder why there was absolutely no damage to this door when in fact all anyone had to do was simply open and walk in.

"An earthquake achieves what the law promises but does not in practice maintain — the equality of all men."

— Ignazio Silone
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Silvia Chase 3 years after Darlie's conviction

Forgiveness for Precious Angels

Barbara Davis who wrote Precious Angels accusing Darlie of killing her two sons now believes Darlie was railroaded.

Davis was in the house with her 25 year old son three years after Darlie was convicted when police broke down the door and shot and killed her son and arrested her. This was from a false police report in a drug investigation and Barbara had to grieve her dead son from jail; the same as Darlie Routier had hers. She changed her mind about Darlie’s guilt and apologized to Darlie and was instantly forgiven the same as the juror who asked forgiveness for his guilty vote.

More interesting tidbits

The Routier hose was torn all to pieces and parts of furniture, walls and appliances even, were taken as evidence. In the mass of things taken from the Routier house is Darlie's Will for her boys. She states who they should go to and how their inheritance would not be given to them until they are 25 if they do not go to college and that if they should marry the money would be protected by

So many questions

Here are a few that Dateline:Purgatory brings up:

Who was the man Darin saw in the house and thought was a policeman before the first policeman showed up? (If he is telling the truth; could this be the or one of the intruders going out the front door before police arrive?)

If Darlie threw the sock in the alley as a prop to make herself look innocent then why does she never mention it? When she is questioned she never says a word about the sock. So what was the point if she did indeed put it there?

Did prosecutors use breast implants and a male stripper to get the death penalty for Darlie? (They spent repeated times putting Darlie down as a woman to the jury as if that equaled murderer. Did it to the jury?)

What other mother has killed her children with her husband just feet away in the same house? (Can you name one?)

What was the motive given for Darlie killing her sons? (What mother who no longer wants her kids are so involved in their lives (school and home) as Darlie was?

Darlie's defense lawyer, Mulder, claimed he was only Darin’s lawyer for less than 60 seconds when Darin was accused of breaking a gag order he had not been cautioned about. If Darlie was the only client then to save her life why did he not mention Darlie asking Darin for a divorce or mention the high insurance Darin had on Darlie’s life which the jury never got to hear about? (Mulder only brought it up for the sentencing once she was found guilty.)

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Court Transcripts Incorrect

One of many flaws in this case.

Self-inflicted? In hospital photo. Main artery barely missed in her neck. Two jurors swear they never saw these photos.
Self-inflicted? In hospital photo. Main artery barely missed in her neck. Two jurors swear they never saw these photos.
Prosecution claim Darlie inflicted these wounds on herself before or after she stabbed her sons and ran and threw a sock down the alley.
Prosecution claim Darlie inflicted these wounds on herself before or after she stabbed her sons and ran and threw a sock down the alley.

I simply cannot believe Darlie made these wounds on herself and I do not see how anyone could. What other mother that murdered or tried to murder their child did this sort of injury to themselves? I really would like to see an example. Darlie always looked like a doll and there was no testimony from anyone that she ever enjoyed injuring herself. These are deep bruises and wounds; it took a lot of effort for them to be made. They are so obviously defense wounds; how much thought and effort it took if these were done by her and I will never believe she did this.

The jury asked if the utility door was locked and the answer sent back to them by the court reporter Sandra Halsey was ‘yes it was locked’ but the true answer was Darin said the garage door was locked but not the utility door. So the jury could have and maybe did assume from this that the utility door going into the house should have shown forced entry if someone came in through the window with the torn screen and through that door. Of course it did not have damage, being unlocked, but the jury never knew this.

There was a real mess also with this court reporter who was going through marital trouble with her husband and she claimed to not have the trial transcripts that were for some reason in her garage and to keep from getting into trouble she claimed they had been erased and she didn’t have them. Then she went before a judge and according to this book admittedly lied.

The court had to have them redone and was out the $74,000 Halsey was paid plus that again. Halsey allegedly had 3300 errors in the transcripts; misspellings, typographical errors, omitted words and misidentified speakers!

Supposedly when all this was said and done (the book is not clear on who said this) it was offered to Darlie to admit her guilt and they would take death off the table and she would just have life. She knows death could be coming soon since she is older and her notoriety is wearing off and the state would feel better in doing that now.

But she said no; she refused to say she was guilty of killing her sons; as she has continued to do now for almost 20 years. She says she is ready to die if that is how it is to be and that God must have His reason for all she has been through.

The Investigators

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Dateline: Purgatory

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    kezzy1996 4 days ago

    Hi Jackie, thanks for that. I wanted to mention about some of the articles that have been posted to try and convince Darlie guilt. What frustrates me is they post information without doing the research first.

    Damon was not trying to crawl towards his dad, his dad was in the living room and Damon was crawling away.

    Not only that they should clarify some of the facts about the glass in the kitchen.

    Waddell and Walling both went through that kitchen together, on the side where the glass was. There is no doubt that having boots on they would have definitely kicked at least a few pieces of that glass around.

    Not only that Darin also admitted he walked through that glass when he went back into the house to look over the evidence while Devon lay dead in the living room.

    I can respect the opinion of others, but not when they intentionally leave out the facts and evidence that prove she didn't kill her boys. There has been a few of Darins friends and supporters who spent years on the internet posting non factual information just to deceive the public.

    They need to call in another police department who has no involvement, this is the Avery case all over again.

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    Jackie Lynnley 4 days ago from The Beautiful South

    Hope someone answers this Kezzy..I have no idea.

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    kezzy1996 4 days ago

    Hello

    I was wondering if anyone knows where the swords were kept in the house. When Waddell and Walling went upstairs they described each room. They were asked about weapons but the only one they saw was a toy gun in the boys room. Why didn't anyone see the swords. There should have been swords up there. So were they hidden from the police?

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    kezzy1996 5 days ago

    Hi Jackie, I don't know if you have seen this new fund raiser Darlie kee has started, but frankly I am fed up with her. She has spent fund raiser money that was meant for Darlie to protect Darin. She has bad 21 years to view the evidence against Darin and she has chosen to lie for him, starting with that Leeza show when she said Darin was not the shirtless man who met Waddell in front yard. Darlie kee has no shame what so ever. Makes me sick. Belinda found this and sent it to me. https://www.gofundme.com/nwkabg

    A lot the theor on Sclemmons article is statements and information that Bryan St John has been preaching about and lying about for years. A lot of his article is not written from fact. Not from interviews, Darins statements, or from court transcripts. That is where I have based my information.

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    kezzy1996 5 days ago

    Hi Jackie, Yes it does. I have decided that I am going to do a video of the cpr that Darin did on Devon, both times. I feel that the dog was a huge clue in this case. That dog proves without any doubt Darin lied about being upstairs his room. All his lies he told after that were just to cover everything up.

    Darin had kept Darlie in the dark for years. Her own mother hid the evidence about Darin. I don't know why she has done that. I don't believe we will ever know. I do know those girls grew up in a sick unhealthy environment. The fact that Darlies mother stayed with a man she knew molested her child just proves my point. We should be calling her Mama June.

    Darlie Kee has tried to make this about her and Darin for 21 years. This isn't about them, this isn't about hiding the truth and protecting Darin.

    I am going to prove once and for all what Darin did and how he did it.

    Darlie Kee has tried to come out and say that I am hurting Darlie by exposing Darin and Dana. Dana didn't have to admit to the affair. She was a innocent child just like Darlie was when Darin first met her. All Dana had to do was tell the truth. Instead she listened to Darin and called Basia to go over to the Routier home and make that false statement about the black car. I don't know if she was in on that with Darin and Basia or not, but she has had 21 years also to tell the truth

    If Darlie wants to get out jail she has stop hiding behind all the bull, and open her eyes. She has believed her mother, Darin and Dana for 21 years. Her time is running out. She is going either face the cold hard facts, or she is going be executed an innocent woman just to try and hide the truth about her mother, Dana and Darin.

    She has had years to reach out to me and prove me wrong. To this day she has done nothing. I believe that is because she has been kept from the truth all these years. Darlie is in a tail spin right now. She doesn't have a clue what is going on. I know she has heard about me, I am pretty sure she is curious by now about what I have said publicly.

    I only wrote her once. I have no idea if she got the letter or not, frankly I don't really care.

    This isn't about hurting Darlies feelings. This about getting justice for Devon and Damon and Darlie. If Darlie chooses to protect Darin and allow her mother to protect Darin that is her choice. I have always believed in her innocence. I based that on facts that I uncovered. There has been a few times the stress and the insults and stalking from others on the internet have scared me to no end, but I have to try and explain and prove best I can what the evidence proved to me.

    There are only a handful, if that, of people who believe in Darin outside his family, Dana and Darlie Kee. I have no idea how he has been able to stop a full investigation done on himself, but I am going to make sure that I expose every single thing that I have uncovered about him and what he did that night.

    I know you are curious one yourself and you have very similar thoughts about this case. You have written many truthful and inspiring articles and comments about this case.

    I have been put down by many, saying I am only hurting Darlie. I am not hurting Darlie, I am only exposing the truth.

    Something her mother has had 21 years to do.

    Instead she chose to spend those 21 years defending Darin and bragging up the new girl he is with. She could be a saint for all care. Doesn't change what happened 21 years ago, and it doesn't change the evidence or lies Darin has been thumping out to the public every chance he gets.

    Drake has a right to know the truth. He was robbed of his mothers affections and of growing up with his brothers.

    If Darin didn't kill those boys, then let the courts and jury decide that. Don't let the authorities protect him and hide the truth and facts about him anymore. He should have been on trial not Darlie. There was never a shred of evidence to ever indicate that she had anything to gain by the death of her boys. All the evidence and motive lay with Darin.

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    Jackie Lynnley 5 days ago from The Beautiful South

    Very true Kezzy and as always the matter of their dog hangs like a big question mark! Too many unanswered questions.

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    kezzy1996 5 days ago

    Hi Jackie, I think your feelings have been very accurate in this case. They say what makes a great detective is his ability to act on his gut instincts.

    You are absolutely right about Damon touching Darlie. There is no way he would have gotten up and gone towards her if she was the one who stabbed him.

    I was reading up on Sclemmons article. He brought this up also. What he described was Damon was moving away from the living room towards the hallway. We have here again Damon moving away from his father. Darin got to Devon 15 seconds into the 911 call. Darlie had just gotten him to lay down there in the hallway and went for the phone in the kitchen. You would think that Damon would have been trying to move towards the living room where Darin was supposedly working on Devon, but Damon clearly didn't do that. There is absolutely no doubt that Damon was moving away from Darin. Then when I read all the lies and excuses Darin gave as to why he never tried to help Damon or Darlie I knew without any doubt he was deliberately avoiding any assistance to Darlie and Damon. He spent the first three minutes with Devon knowing he was already gone, he gave several different excuses why he didn't help the living victims. The police knew for a fact that Darin was lying about Damon having no pulse.

    There was never an investigation into Darin. That is a fact I did uncover. I don't know who his family is or what kind of influence they had over this case if any, I just know that Darin knew Darlie and Damon were dying and he denied both of the them any help for over 6 minutes. I am convinced Darin did it. I am basing this on his interviews, his police statements, court testimony. There is no way he was upstairs asleep while his family was attacked. I say shame on the police and the legal system for letting him get away with this.

    At the very least Darlie deserves a new trial, they need to show the jury all the evidence against Darin. That should have been done in the first trial. Shame on Doug Mulder for what he did to Darlie and Drake. I will never understand why he did what he did. I know Doug Mulder never investigated the case, but he had to know Darin was guilty when he tried to help Darin change his testimony in court to cover up the lie about the table falling on Devon. I believe Doug Mulder should also face criminal charges for his negligence and involvement.

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    Jackie Lynnley 5 days ago from The Beautiful South

    Kezzy- Been awhile but I do recall the little boy coming to Darlie which I always thought would not be the case if she stabbed him but at that time I was not aware of Darin or what he was doing. Maybe I do go on gut feeling more than I should but that jury sure did not convict Darlie from evidence.

    Darlie's lawyer should have been screaming loud and clear the only person to profit from all this!

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    kezzy1996 7 days ago

    Hi Jackie: It was nice to hear from. That was definitely an eye opener for. I have been threatened in every sense of the word when he comes to Bryan and his group.

    I don't think I have posted anything that was not truthful. I thought I made it clear on what I my theories were what came from evidence.

    I hit on a very sensitive spot for sure. We have looked into that alleged affair between Darin and and Dana I am convinced there was definitely some thing there. The problem with this case is Darlie kee has been preventing a lot of the evidence against Darin from coming to light. I am shocked about that.

    I believe Darlie has a great chance of getting a new trial if they stop hiding the evidence against Darin. Someone has been bullying everyone on the internet who has spoken about Darin in a negative way.

    There has been times I wanted to quit but I am forced to continue on.

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    Jackie Lynnley 7 days ago from The Beautiful South

    I have always thought Bryan a psychotic nut and I will not tolerate him. I would not allow people like that here, not because he has a different opinion but because of who he is. Life is too short for messing with his type.

    If Darlie ever did get out she would no doubt need police protection the rest of her life. Poor, poor Darlie. Life throws some people some real curve balls and she is one of them.

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    kezzy1996 8 days ago

    Hi Jackie: Happy to hear from you. Have you been reading on SClemmons sight. I am absolutely shocked at the things he has been saying. Ever since I brought up the information we uncovered about Darin cheating with Dana, this Everton showed up on Sclemmons site. He has been brutal.

    We fnally had a man named Oliver who could have brought some intelligent conversation to the site about Darlie and Everton just kept going off the top with the accusations about Belinda and I being racist.

    I do believe that all of us who believe in Darlies innocence have struck a nerve. Oliver isn't coming back to hub anymore, and this Everton keeps claiming that me and Belinda and Polly are all the same person. I don't want to drag you in the middle of this but, things have really gotten out of hand here and on youtube.

    Everton and Bryan St John have teamed up together and between Bryans evil videos on youtube and Evertons behavior on hub and youtube I don't know what to think anymore.

    The more I look into Darin and Dana the more evidence there is to prove something was going on.

    I can see why Darlie hasn't had a chance here, someone has been absolutely stalking her case to make sure the evidence against Darin doesn't come to light. This is getting to the point its serious now.

    What do think?

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    Jackie Lynnley 8 days ago from The Beautiful South

    Thanks Kezzy, I have tried to be open minded and I do listen to all that is said except those who hate Darlie so bad they will just not see anything else. Even when I thought Darin may have had someone else come in to do the murdering as this book suggests I still thought he had a hand in it and it has been a long time since I have thought about Darin and Darlie's sister but I do remember hearing there was something going on that night that made Darlie mad like a flirtation or something. I assumed at the time that was the real reason for her sleeping downstairs.

    I always thought it was odd Darin moving in with Darlie Kee....I mean if she had been my daughter with that insurance on her I believe I would have been looking very closely at him and she seemed to be so all friends with him as she always has been since he was a kid and she sort of picked him for her daughter.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Hi Jackie, I was reading some of your material in the article. I noticed that you mentioned that Dana had a life time of quilt about the silly string tape.

    I do knoh tw that there was suspicion about Darin and Dana, Darlie was upset about that, but they all failed to mention that. Darin didn't come forward about the fight that Darlie and him had until after the trial. None of them came forward about the planned robbery Darin had been asking around about. Darlie kee, robby kee and Darin all came forward with the truth about why they really hired Mulder and about Darins activities, but none of them came forward about the suspicions of Darin and Dana.

    I was sent an article where they were discussing the Darlie case. There were strangers at a fair that saw Darin and Dana be so affectionate with other they left got out of line and left the ride because they were so repulsed. There was a neighbor that I believe to very reliable. She testified or made a statement that she saw Darin and Darlie, but we later learned it was Darin and Dana, they were at the house 12 days after the murders laughing and playing in the front yard. Darin was climbing the fountain and planting a flag. I don't believe this information can be ignored.

    I am not blaming Darlies sister she was a child, but learning this news upsets me even more about Darlies mother. If the jury would have heard this information I know for a fact it would have changed the verdict.

    Darin not took Darlie when she was a child, but it appeared he was moving on to another younger member of the family. Darlies mother had to know what was going on and she allowed Darin to move into her home. That makes me sick and furious. Darlie was used and abused in every sense of the word.

    Did you know Darlie kee spends more time today defending Darin than she does defending her own daughter.

    When I watched that Leeza show part one and I saw Darlie kee open her mouth to tell the audience and the world that the man who fled that home was the intruder who attacked the family. I saw red. My opinion of that woman completely changed. Darin sat there looking red faced and guilty. He knew that person was him because he stated that on June 8th 1996 in his police statement.

    I know for a fact and have had confirmation that no investigation was ever done on Darin or Barbara Jovell. If they had only even looked at the 911 call and compared it to what Darin claimed in his police statement he would have been arrested and charged right then.

    I think Kruz does have good intentions, but the truth about Darin and even the dirt about her family needs to be told. The reason Darlie is still in jail isn't because she killed her boys, its because they all were more concerned about hiding their own dirty laundry than telling the truth to that jury.

    I have no doubt that if the jury was to hear what really went on Darlie wouldn't be in jail today.

    I wanted to say one last thing. Your article mentions that Darin said the utility room door was locked but the garage door wasn't.

    I have an issue with that. According to Darin he saw that black car just hours before the murders. Not only he just happen to hire a woman who came into his home who also claims this stranger was in the back alley looking through the windows of the garage. Yet Darin says that the utility room door wasn't locked but the garage was, deliberately bringing focus to that damaged window.

    I don't know if you are aware of these things, but Darin knew that black car, he knew his employee had been sending that black car to his home. She claims she never came forward about the car because she was scared. The only person she would have been scared of was Darin. She definitely was not scared of Darlie because she not only lied about that black car her and Darin knew about, she testified against Darlie. Her mother even accused Darlie of child abuse and trying to kill her son Drake. It was all a set up and they were all in on it.

    Not only that, did you know that Darin met with Davis in October and her gave him one story about the screen and then changed his testimony in court. He was confronted about lying on the stand and again he was not charged with perjury.

    Darin was caught at his old home looking over the screens. Davis knew that Darin was trying to come up with some sort of an excuse about the cut screen in the garage.

    I am sorry but there is nothing that is going to convince me at this point that Darin didn't premeditate that crime.

    Did you know that that special accidental clause that Darin added to Darlie policy to double that amount would have kicked in if she was murdered.

    So to answer your questing about the necklace saving her life. You bet your sweet you know what that chain was the difference between life and death. She had no jewellery on her body that night except that chain.

    I have to take my hat off to you and say you have done a great job with helping Darlie. She really does have a friend in you. If she isn't aware of that by now she is missing out for sure.

    Love the article by the way.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Jackie, Darlies case has reached the Federal level now. I believe that things are really going to heat up for her before they ever just fade away. I read that Greg Davis was in trouble again. Got some fines and might spend some time in jail. Do you think that might shed some light on them finally deciding to properly investigate Darin? Darlie might not be able to push for a proper investigation, but us as citizens have a right to have our evidence and information heard don't we?

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Hi Jackie, I really enjoy hearing from you. Not just because we seem to see this thing from a similar light, but you do open up a lot of new theories on the case.

    I believe the key to proving Darlies innocence is proving Darins guilt. I hate to say it, but I have never felt there was an intruder, there was never anything to prove to me this was an attack by a stranger.

    There are a few of us who have been opened minded about this case. I initially looked it to maybe be a stranger, but that was short lived when Darlie and boys were left alive. I felt if this was a stranger he would not have been concerned about DNA transfer or possible wounds. The only reason an intruder would leave two severely wounded victims was if he knew he was going to in contact with the authorities in the near future.

    I can not get over Darins interview describing Devon being attacked with a double edged weapon, rather than a knife as the doctors had described.

    What do you think about that? Are you suspicious that he knew more about Devon wounds than the doctors knew?

    I wanted to ask you what you thought about the two separate cpr attempts Darin did. I have been a pest about that, but I also seemed to open a few more eyes to what really happened.

    Darin did the first cpr 30 seconds into the 911 call, but he also did the other one on Devon 4 minutes later right in front of Waddell. There is no way Darin can tell anyone anything different. What do you think about that?

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    Jackie Lynnley 2 weeks ago from The Beautiful South

    I agree Kezzy and I have no way to prove it but feeling Darin was trying to protect himself I believe he was behind the crazy and unusual way Darlie was acting and stupid things she was saying. How he managed it I can only guess but it would not take much for a woman who had been attacked like she was and had her children murdered and he was right there to make sure no memories came around to make him look guilty.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Jackie, I have a great respect for your articles. I believe you have been open minded about this case. I know I have harped about Darin, and now its too late for me to back down.

    I will not get over those two cpr attempts he did on Devon, and I cant get past him denying Darlie and Damon any help. Its not just one person who has accused him of obstructing help to the living victims.

    The medics stated that Darin was blocking them from getting help to Damon, Waddell himself said he didn't understand why Darin went over to Devon when it was clear Devon was dead.

    Darin fled from that home stalling Waddell from entering that house sooner. Darin pressed the fact that he did everything he could to help his family, but there is not one shred of evidence to back that up. All I uncovered was lies and deception from Darin.

    I don't know this family, I had no idea what I was going to find when I started looking. It took me years to figure out what Darin had done with that cpr. I didn't even do it alone, I spent months sorting it out with many people.

    We spent months on end bringing up witness statements and Darins interviews and statements.

    Mulder had this case for three months. It took me well over two years to compare Darins statement to witness testimony to final figure out what he did, yet Mulder claimed to crack this case in three months.

    He got rid of all the investigative work that was done prior to him taking over Darlie case. He got rid of and didn't call in those witnesses because the evidence implicated Darin. He had a direct conflict of interest he couldn't implicate Darin because of that agreement.

    Most people don't know anything about conflict of interest, they don't know a lawyer is breaking the rules by doing what Mulder did.

    I have never seen a capital case go to trial in less than seven month specially having a lawyer who only had the case for three months. Mulder admitted himself he made several mistakes in her case.

    There is no room for even one mistake when your client is on trial for their life. He makes me sick. He was cocky and led them all to believe that they didn't need to implicate Darin to prove Darlies innocence, but they did. He had no proof or reasonable doubt to even back up the intruder theory. Darlie was screwed over in every sense of the word.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    I agree Jackie, there is nothing at all that would ever indicate that girl wanted to get rid of her boys. I am very close to my kids, they also stayed my room right from the day I brought them home.

    There is no sign of any abuse at all with her and her children. She may have over spent, there is no doubt, but she also over spent on her boys. They had the best clothes, regular dental, best haircuts, vacations.

    There tore Darlies life apart, and the worst thing they learned about her was she didn't go to church and went out and got drunk with friends the day before mothers day. I can tell you straight up, I would never come out that looking anywhere near as good as Darlie did.

    They jury never got to hear the truth about Darin, any of the facts, the drugs, the insurance scams, the cheating, none of it. He spent every second he could painting this picture to the jury like he was some kind of a saint.

    Maybe nobody wants to hear my facts about Darin, but a jury should have heard those things, Darlie should have had reasonable doubt at her trial. Because Darin went to such great lengths to hide the truth from the jury they were left with only only two decisions as Davis said, it was either Darlie or an intruder that murdered those boys. Mulder didn't even bring reasonable doubt to try and show the jury there was an intruder.

    As far as I am concerned Darin should have been willing to do anything to prove her innocence. He did nothing except extract any hope of reasonable doubt for that jury. They are not to blame. They can not judge Darlie on information that was never shown to them.

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    Jackie Lynnley 2 weeks ago from The Beautiful South

    Hi Kezzy. You have pointed out many things about Darin that should make many wonder. I can never point out enough he was the only one to gain from this and why others failed to see it is beyond me.

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    Jackie Lynnley 2 weeks ago from The Beautiful South

    You are very welcome Oliver. All ideas are welcome as long as all can keep down their hostilities. I will admit U may go more on gut feeling as a mother and just certain things odd in this case but many people hate Darlie beyond reasoning in my opinion. A woman that as far as I have ever read had not a mean moment in her life. Then all of a sudden she kills her two sons? I still say if she really did she was tried in a very wrong way for she would already be walking free otherwise.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Everton, you are so desperate to try and put chaos into what I am saying hoping it will prevent people from seeing for themselves that second cpr Darin did on Devon.

    You have no idea about this case. For starters the prosecution theory on the sock is just that, A THEORY, they don't have any proof any of that ever happened. You knock me down for explaining why things couldn't have happened the way the prosecution claims, but the fact is there is little or no evidence to prove any of the accusations made by the prosecution.

    Darin was not even part of the discussion in Darlies trial, he should have been the key factor in that entire trial. starting with the fact that he couldn't have been in his room when that glass broke There is absolutely no way he could have heard that glass break over the tv being on downstairs and the dog barking upstairs. He was already downstairs. The doors to his bedroom were closed right up until he went back in there just as Waddell pulled up.

    Stick to the facts Everton. He did a cpr on Devon soon as he came down. His words not mine. He did a second cpr 4 minutes later in front of Waddell. He had to step right over his living son Damon to go into the living room and get to Devon. Read Waddells statement. TWO CPR ATTEMPTS ON DEVON 4 MINUTES APART, WHILE DAMON LAY DYING IN FRONT OF OFFICER WADDELL.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Oliver, I am not saying I am perfect here. I have clearly stated what I believed was theory and what was actual fact.

    I got my information based on the transcripts and Darins own interviews and statements. I didn't make anything up.

    Yes I admit that I did research the rape drug to find out if it was possible for him to have drugged her. Her behavior was not normal. She has never swayed from her confusion and memory loss. Darin appeared to know she had issues with her memory. He was filling in the details of what happened. Darin told Darlie that he went up and got Drake, he didn't. He told her he handed Drake to her, he didn't. He told her he took her out to the porch and that is when he realized her panties were missing. That is where Darin went wrong. Darlie remembered that it was Darin who brought up her missing panties, it was not Darlie as Darin had claimed.

    I have searched her statements and I have never read anywhere, where Darlie has actually said she saw Darin come out of his room and down those stairs. the 911 call proves she was in the kitchen when he appeared. There is no blood evidence to prove Darins story to be true. He was waiting I believe in the dining room for Darlie to be out of sight in the kitchen before he appeared. The dining room is only a couple of steps from the landing of the stairs. That is why Darin was in the hallway when Darlie returned with the phone. If he got there before she dialed 911 he would have already been with Devon, he wouldn't have been in the hallway as the 911 call proves.

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    Oliver Penwell Esquire 2 weeks ago from Somewhere in Maine

    Kezzy1996, I have indeed spent many years investigating this case as well as several others. I will not say that it qualifies me to make any prognostications about any of them, however. What it does do though, is to make me more qualified than most to be able to understand what possibly happened at the time. I will be the first to admit I am fallible; I do make mistakes, especially if I am not careful to first ask about what I am not 100% certain. I will also admit that when I come to a conclusion, it is because evidence and science have led me to that end. Most often, I am correct, but that does not mean I am always right. Thanks to the author, Ms. Jackie Lynnley, for allowing me to post here.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    The blood evidence on Darlies shirt came when she tried to help Darin give cpr to Devon when he first came down. Thirty seconds into the call.

    The reason why everyone is so confused about the cpr is because they haven't figured out that Darin did that first cpr with in the first 30 seconds. They didn't see Darlie over with Devon because they hadn't arrived yet.

    Darlie didn't go over to help Darin after Waddell arrived. Waddell states that himself. Darin came in and he went right back over to Devon. Meanwhile Waddell stayed with Darlie trying to help her.

    Waddell said Darin did that cpr on Devon, he didn't know Darin had already spent the first three minutes on Devon, Darin then gets up and goes over to Waddell to tell him its no use to help Devon, but he still never touches his son Damon.

    Read his statements. Those are not my lies, they are Darins statements.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    Jackie, I agree, it upset me a lot to hear that too, but what upset me even more was he lied about it.

    In Darins police statement he said he did cpr when he first came down stairs. That was 30 seconds into the 911 call. He stayed with Devon for over three minutes, he knew Devon was gone when he got there, he knew Damon needed his help yet he refused both Darlie and Damon.

    What really upset the most was when Darin walked right past Damon to go upstairs before the police arrived. He admits in his statement he ran out of his room and out the front door. he spoke to Waddell for a minute. It was as though he was deliberately trying to stall them from getting help to Darlie and Damon.

    So Waddell walks into the house almost 4 minutes into the 911 call. He said Darin ran over to the dead child and started cpr on him. He knew and saw Damon was alive he knew Devon was dead for over 4 minutes. He never touched either living victim.

    This proves to me without doubt he was scared of Damons reaction if he tried to touch him. It also proves to me that he denied both Darlie and Damon help to make sure they bled out.

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    Jackie Lynnley 2 weeks ago from The Beautiful South

    That description Darin gave of doing CPR on his dead son is what gave me cold chills and the knowledge that man had no heart.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    No matter how you swing this. It will never change the fact that Darin denied both Darlie and Damon any help.

    We know for a fact Damon lived over six minutes. Darin said in his police statement he didn't help Damon because he had not pulse, but if you listen to his interviews, he admits Damon was moving when he looked over at him.

    Darin admits he did the first cpr when he first arrived on scene. Thirty seconds into the 911 call.

    Officer Waddell showed up almost 4 minutes later and he described watching Darin do cpr on his dead son Devon. There is no way he could have been confused. The officer knew Devon was gone the second he entered the house.

    This proves without any doubt that Darin was putting on an act to take suspicion away from himself.

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    kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

    JAMmerMan, you appear to have really looked at this case. You have given more time and search into this case than Darlies own lawyer did.

    For what ever reason Mulder wanted this case, even knowing he only had for three months before trial. The forensic experts that were hired to work for Darlie were never called. Mulder met with them briefly, but he claimed they didn't have anything relevant to the case. They deny that, they claim they had proof that the forensic evidence done for the prosecution could be argued and proven to be wrong.

    As far as I am concerned Darlie deserved a new trial. Darin was never investigated and that was a fact. It was pointed by many including the lawyers he got rid of because they planned to implicate him.

    My biggest issue was and still is that second cpr that nobody wants to admit.

    I don't understand why it is so difficult to see what Darin did. He came down and did cpr within seconds of Darlie being on the phone with 911. Then almost 4 minutes later he did that second cpr. The officer said when he came in he knew the boy in the living room was dead, that boy was Devon, and that is the boy Darin spent the first two minutes on. He was asked to help Damon, but Darin denied that boy any assistance for the second time. He never helped him or Darlie and he was confronted about this in court.

    I have seen many crime programs and murders are caught everyday just on that first initial phone call to police. It was clear and obvious that Darin denied not only Damon but Darlie any help at all. Darin said he didn't know Darlie was hurt until much later. That would have been impossible. She was there at some point with Darin beside Devon after she was attacked, the blood puddle from her proves that. There is no way Darin could have not seen both of those wounds. They were both gushing blood.

    If they would have just checked that 911 call, and compared it to Darins police statement they would have known instantly Darin lied.

    I have never claimed that Darlie was drugged. All I have ever said is I believe she was drugged. Only because of her strange behavior.

    I suspected there was more to Darin once I heard cocaine was found upstairs where he had been earlier that night.

    It is no secret Darin appeared to be attracted to under age girls. Darlie suspected something was going on with her sister and Darin. All the premedition leads to Darin not Darlie.

    It was Darin who set up that black car in his neighborhood, not Darlie. This was done with his employee, then it just happens that he hires his employees mother to come into his home to help Darlie with the house. The shop was slow, Darlies sister was already staying there, why wasn't she helping her sister.

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    Oliver Penwell Esquire 2 weeks ago from Somewhere in Maine

    What I find interesting is that of what I have read in the comments below, there are several (and more) that are incorrect, and a few that seem to be deliberately factually incorrect. This is a problem when someone's life is on the line; it is matters like that which cause a court to throw out "evidence" and deny appeals. One must be careful with assertions they make to avoid any semblance of impropriety.

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    kezzy1996 2 months ago

    I may come across as harsh, but it is beyond me how anyone can defend what Darin did. Just because he wasn't charged for the crime doesn't make him innocent

    TIME LINE OF ACCOUNTS

    2:30 AM DARLIE IS IN THE KITCHEN SHE DIALS 911

    2:30:15 DARLIE IS WALKING TOWARDS BOYS, TELLS DARIN TO HURRY

    ACCORDING TO DARINS STATEMENT HE CLAIMS THAT HE CAME DOWN STAIRS BEFORE DARLIE DIALED 911, BUT THE 911 CALL PROVES DARIN DIDNT APPEAR IN THAT HALLWAY UNTIL AFTER DARLIE LEFT THE HALLWAY TO GO INTO THE KITCHEN TO GET THE PHONE. THIS GAVE DARIN THE CHANCE TO APPEAR IN THE HALLWAY. THIS ALSO PROVES DARLIE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN DARIN COME OUT OF HIS ROOM OR DOWN THE STAIRS.

    DARLIES STATEMENT SHE SAYS SHE GOES TO DAMON FIRST, THEN SHE GOES OVER TO DEVON. THE 911 CALL PROVES THIS WAS TRUE.

    2:30:39 DARLIE GOES OVER TO WHERE DEVON AND DARIN SCREAMS OUT DEVONS DEAD

    SO WE KNOW DEVON WAS ALREADY DEAD WHEN DARIN GETS TO HIM. DARIN ADMITS THIS AND DARLIE CONFIRMS IT ON THE 911 CALL.

    THE BLOOD PATTERN MAP ALSO CONFIRMS DARLIE DID GO OVER TO DEVON AFTER SHE HAD BEEN STABBED. THERE IS A BLOOD PUDDLE BESIDE THE SPOT WHERE DEVON WAY LAYING.

    WHAT THE EVIDENCE DOESNT DO IS BACK UP DARINS ACCOUNTS OF WHAT HE CLAIMED HAPPENED.

    DARIN SAID HE WAS IN HIS ROOM WHEN HE HEARD HE GLASS BREAK IN THE KITCHEN. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR DARIN TO HAVE HEARD THAT GLASS BREAK IF HE WAS IN HIS ROOM. FIRST OF ALL THE DOG WOULD HAVE BEEN BARKING FRANTICALLY, HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HEAR THE GLASS BREAK OVER DARLIES DOG BARKING.

    DARIN ALSO CLAIMED THAT DARLIE WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS SCREAMING WHEN HE CAME OUT OF HIS ROOM. THIS IS ALSO NOT TRUE. IF THIS WERE TRUE THEN THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A PUDDLE OF DARLIES BLOOD AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS AND THERE ISNT.

    DARIN HAS 7 YEARS OF CPR TRAINING. HE KNEW DEVON WAS ALREADY DEAD WHEN HE GOT TO HIM. HE KNEW IT WAS TOO LATE FOR DEVON. A PERSON COULD UNDERSTAND HIM STAYING WITH DEVON FOR MAYBE 1 OR EVEN 2 MINUTES. DARIN STAYED WITH DEVON AND DELIBRATELY DENIED DAMON ANY ASSISTANCE FOR OVER 3 MINUTES.

    3:30:20 DARIN DIDNT LEAVE DEVONS SIDE UNTIL AFTER HE HEARD THE FIRST OFFICER PULL UP TO THE HOUSE. DARIN CLAIMED IN HIS POLICE STATEMENT HE WENT UPSTAIRS TO PUT HIS PANTS ON JUST AS POLICE AND MEDICS WERE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR. THIS IS NOT TRUE ACCORDING TO THE 911 CALL. DARIN DID GO UP STAIRS JUST BEFORE THE POLICE ARRIVED BUT IT WASNT TO PUT HIS PANTS ON, AND THE POLICE AND MEDICS WERE NOT COMING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR.

    THEN DARIN SAYS HE RUNS OUT THE FRONT DOOR AND HE RUNS OVER TO KAREN. WE KNOW THIS WAS ANOTHER LIE DARIN TOLD BECAUSE OF SEVERAL WITNESSES TESTIMONY. OFFICER WADDELL, AND MR. GORSUCH BOTH GAVE THE SAME STORY. THEY SAID DARIN RAN OUT OF THE HOUSE AND RAN RIGHT INTO OFFICER WADDELL, THEY THEN SAID THEY TURNED AROUND AND WENT BACK INTO THE HOUSE. THE 911 CALL ALSO BACKS UP WADDELLS ACCOUNTS.

    DARIN CLAIMS HE RAN OVER TO KARENS TO GET HELP. THIS IS ALSO A LIE AND IS BACKED UP BY KAREN NEILS TESTIMONY. DARIN DIDNT GO OVER TO HER HOUSE UNTIL AFTER THE MEDICS AND POLICE HAD ENTERED THE HOME. MEDICS AND POLICE ALL SAID DARIN WAS IN THE HOME WHEN THEY ENTERED THE HOUSE. DARIN HAD NO REASON TO GO OVER AND PUT ON THAT ACT LIKE HE WAS DESPERATE TO GET HELP FOR HIS BOYS. DARIN NEVER HELPED OR EVEN TOUCHED EITHER DYING VICTIM. HE INTENTIONALLY USED HIS SON DEAD BODY AS AN EXCUSE NOT TO HELP DARLIE AND DAMON.

    I CAN SEE SOMEONE GIVING DARIN THE BENIFIT OF THE DOUBT IF THERE WAS A FEW INCONSISTANCIES BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

    DARIN KNEW DEVON HAD BEEN DEAD FOR OVER 4 MINUTES WHEN HE WALKED BACK INTO THAT HOUSE WITH WADDELL. THERE IS NO EXCUSE DARIN CAN USE TO EVEN TRY TO EXPLAIN WHY WHEN WADDELL ASKED HIM TO HELP DAMON HE DELIBRATELY WENT BACK TO HIS DEAD SON AND DENIED DAMON ANY ASSISTANCE. THIS WAS COLD AND CALCULATED AND DELIBRATE. HOW CAN ANYONE POSSIBLY IGNORE WHAT DARIN HAD DONE.

    WADDELL HAD NO IDEA THAT DARIN HAD DELIBRATELY DENIED AND AVOIDED HELPING DARLIE OR DAMON FOR THREE MINUTES BEFORE HE ARRIVED. IF ANYONE HAD EVEN INVESTIGATED DARIN IN THE SLIGHTEST THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN EXACTLY WHAT DARIN HAD DONE.

    STARTING WITH HIS PREMEDITATION OF THIS CRIME. TO HUGE LIFE INSURANCE POLICY ON DARLIE AND THE ONES ON HIS BOYS, TO THE SETTING UP OF THE SUSPICIOUS BLACK CAR WITH HIS EMPLOYEE, TO THE PLANNED ROBBERY TO COLLECT INSURANCE, TO THE PAST FRAUD INSURANCE CLAIM HE ALREADY GOT PAID OUT ON, TO THE FAILING BUSINESS THAT HE ENDED UP CLOSING DOWN, TO THE CHEATING ON DARLIE GIVING HER AN INCURABLE STD, TO HIS USE OF COCAINE AND OTHER DRUGS, TO HIS HUGE OVER DUE BILLS AND BROKE BANK ACCOUNT.

    THERE IS NO WAY THE JURY COULD HAVE CONVICTED DARLIE KNOWING ALL THESE THINGS. THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT DARLIE COULD NOT HAVE GIVEN DARIN THAT ALIBI. EVERY SINGLE LIE DARIN HAS TOLD FROM THE START HAS BEEN TO SET DARLIE UP AND TO TRY AND MAKE HIMSELF LOOK INNOCENT.

    THE LAST EVIL DIG THAT DARIN TOOK AT HIS BOYS WAS WHEN HE TOOK IT APON HIMSELF TO BURY THOSE BOYS WITH SWORDS AND PLAY THAT GANGSTER SONG. DARLIE MAY HAVE BEEN CELEBRATING THE BIRTHDAY OF DEVON, BUT DARIN WAS SECRETLY LAUGHING AT THE ENTIRE WORLD WHEN THOSE BOYS WERE LAID TO REST WITH THE VERY WEAPON THAT TOOK THEIR LIVES. SHAME ON THE LEGAL SYSTEM, AND DARLIE LAWYER, AND MOSTLY GREG DAVIS. HE KNEW AND STILL KNOWS OF DARINS GUILT AND TO SAVE FACE HE STAYED SILENT WHEN HE KNEW HE SHOULD HAVE ARRESTED AND CHARGED DARIN.

    The prosecution knew and still knows that Darins jeans have blood evidence on them that proves he was right there with both boys when they were stabbed. Darin might be able to explain away Devons blood but there is no way in hell for him to explain how Damons blood spatter ended up on his jeans. Darin never went anywhere near Damon. He denied that boy any assistance at all. This also explains why there was the boys blood on Darins runners in the garage and also on his sock that was found in that back alley.

    Darlie kees knows all these facts and has known for years. She has chosen to protect her son in law and allowed her daughter to remain on death row waiting to be murdered by the state.

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    kezzy1996 2 months ago

    Heather Blaze: Darlie kee has not helped Darlie because she knows the spotlight would be put on Darin. You obviously haven't watched Darins interviews where he talks in detail of Devons death and that so called cpr he did on him. He is grinning when he is talking to the two investigators. His creepy sickening eyes are darting back and forth with excitement at the shocked reaction from those investigators. You show me one video of any other innocent parent that goes on not one but several interviews just to talk about their heroics in trying to save their child.

    For crying out loud open your eyes. Darin knew when he went upstairs just before the police Devon was dead. Darin knew Devon was dead when he first got to him. When him and Waddell came back in Waddell told Darin to go over to Damon to help him. Darin didn't. He walked right past that living boy and took Devons dead body and used it to do a fake cpr on him. Darin knew Devon died 4 minutes earlier. He has 7 years cpr experience. He knew Damon needed help to survive and he stepped right over that boy to go over to Devon to pretend to be trying to save him. Darin has lied and changed many of his stories but he cant change what witnesses saw.

    And don't say Darlie didn't do anything for son. What the hell is wrong with you. Damon lived for 6 minutes. Darin never touched that boy only Darlie did. She must have done something right to keep him alive for that long.

    I have no idea why you would defend what Darin did to his children. Watch that video of going into detail of the cpr . He tramples over the very spot where Devon died and he fakes sitting down and acts out what he did on june 6th. If that doesn't convince you of how sick that creep is. Then watch the video of him talking to the investigators. He is grinning, no doubt about it. Focus on Darin for once. Go through his accounts of what he says happens when he gets down stairs. None of it adds up, not even his statement claiming Darlie saw him come out of his room. 

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    kezzy1996 2 months ago

    Jackie: yea, your right I have to try and reach out to others. What I don't understand here is there is a father who murdered his children and robbed his son of ever being a part of his mothers life is still free. This isn't even about solving a case anymore. I know you care about this case and those boys. This is way beyond Darlie being guilty or not.

    This is about Darin killing his kids. There is enough evidence to prove he killed his family I would like for you to work with us to try and get someone to listen to us.

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    Jackie Lynnley 2 months ago from The Beautiful South

    I guess all you can do Kezy is try to finally reach the right person who may listen. Have you sent emails or letters out to certain ones about all this?

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    kezy1996 2 months ago

    Jackie: I don't know if you are aware of this but Basia showed up at he Routier home right after the boys were stabbed. She was aware of Darins plans for the home robbery but when she called the detective over to tell him about he black car she never mentioned the robbery Darin had been planning.

    Not only that Basia also knew the person who had been stalking the Routier home for those days leading up to the robbery. She said she was to scared to tell the police who that person was. Now that is more than strange. If she wasn't involved in the crime then why would she be scared to tell the truth about that black car. She said the person in the black car was a friend of her daughters. She also said she told them to go by the Routier neighborhood to get ideas for landscaping. If she were innocent and that black car had nothing to hide then why would she not come forward and tell the truth, and why wouldn't that person driving that black car come forward.

    After Darin closed his business and she realized she was not getting her share of the partnership in Darins business she turned on Darlie and testified against her in court. Yet she kept all those lies and secrets about Darin away from the police and lawyers. Not only that Darin had been bragging to her about how much money he was going to be making on movie and book deals.

    When Darin and Darlie's sister showed up at the Routier home laughing and joking throwing away all the gifts people left for the babies, Darin was counting the dollars on how much he was going to be making from the death of his boys.

    Darlie Kee has not made herself available to try and learn or search any evidence to try and prove her daughters innocence. She has always known what has really been going on while her daughter has been sitting on death row.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: No matter what they say about Darlies guilt, it does not change the fact that Darin used Devons dead body to deceive Darlie and to deceive officer Waddell. Darin can not explain that evidence away. Why the hell wasn't he charged for that at the very least?

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: Your right about nothing being done. I have tried calling Cooper many times. He either doesn't answer his phone or he isn't interested in new evidence. I don't know what Darlies mother has been spending all that collection money on, but it sure as hell hasn't been to help her daughter

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    Maybe they will never kill Darlie, maybe there is reasonable doubt in someone's mind but it sure looks like little is being done to ever get her another trial and Darin seems pretty sure of that.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    The biggest clue in solving the Devon and Damon Routier murders is the evidence that was hidden from the jury regarding Darin Routiers involvement.

    The jury was led to believe that Darin was not and could not have been the killer. Through searching the evidence in this case it is fact that Darlie did not, and could not have seen Darlie come out of his room, let alone run down those stairs.

    I have never heard the words come directly from Darlies mouth that she saw Darin come out of his room.

    It isnt just a possibility that Darin could have did this crime, but it is very probable.

    Darin said he came out of his room, ran down the stairs screaming and pushed past Darlie and ran right over to Devon.

    This did not happen and this is why.

    First of all Darlie was never standing at the foot of those stairs, and if she had been then there would have been a puddle of her blood somewhere near the stairs or the landing. There is no evidence to collaberate Darins story.

    Darin said he came down the stairs and after he got to the bottom of the stairs he yelled at Darlie to call 911 as he was running over to Devon. So this means Darin would have had to take only a few steps to run over to Devon as soon as he got to the bottom of the stairs. This also means Darin would have already been with Devon and doing cpr on him when Darlie came back from the kitchen to get the phone.

    If you listen to the 911 call it is fact that Darlie is saying to Darin 15 seconds into that call to hurry. This proves that Darlie was not in view of Darin when he appeared on the scene. He waited until she went to the kitchen out of site so he could appear. That is why she caught Darin on his way over to Devon, and not after he was with Devon. To further confirm this. Darlie said she stopped at Damon first and then went over to Devon. At 39 seconds into the call she screams out Devon is dead. Darin continued to stay with Devons dead body for over 3 minutes. Darin himself admitted Devon was already dead when he first got to him.

    I would like to know why Darin never touched Damon. He never went anywhere near that boy at all ever. When he left Devons side he ran right past Damon and went upstairs. He said he went up there to put his pants on, but we know that was a lie.

    Darins accounts of June 6th.

    2:30 am Darlie goes to the kitchen and dials 911.

    2:30:15 Darlie is in the hallway heading back to the boys. On the 911 call Darlie is heard saying to Darin hurry. This proves that Darin did not come out of his room and run down those stairs before Darlie dialed 911.

    2:30:20 Darlie is in the hallway standing with Damon, while Darin is with Devon

    2:30:39 Darlie goes over to where Devon and Darin are. She screams out on the 911 call that Devon is dead. This was confirmed many times by Darin himself. Darin said Devon was already dead when he first got to him.

    2:33:20 For three minutes Darin stays with Devon. Darin said he didnt know Darlie was hurt, and he didnt help Damon because he had no pulse, even though Darlie is heard on the 911 call talking to Damon. Darin does not stop at Damons body or Darlie, he runs right past both victims and runs upstairs just as Waddell pulled up to the front of the house. We know this because Darin said this in his statement, and we also heard the dog bark for the first time. So this dog had been locked in the bedroom upstairs with the baby.

    2:33:30 Darin emerges from his bedroom upstairs and runs down the stairs and right out the front door. He runs into Waddell in the middle of the yard. Both Waddell and Darin go right back into the house.

    2:33:45 Darin and Waddell are in the house. They first see Damon on the floor trying to move. He is trying to crawl and looking around the room. Waddell said he looked over at Devon and knew Devon was dead. Waddell told Darin to go over to Damon and help him, Waddell is heard on the 911 call trying to help Darlie.

    Darin claims he didnt come into the house with Waddell. Darin has claimed that he went over to karens, but the 911 call proves this was not true. Darin also said he was not the person who ran out the front door when Waddell first arrived, but an eye witness saw Darin running in front of his home when Waddell arrived. Darin claimed that Waddell had allowed the intruder to run from the home. We also know this was not true.

    The big question here is why didnt Darin go over to help Damon. Waddell knew Devon was already dead, and he didnt understand why Darin immediately ran over to Devon and not Damon. What Waddell didnt know was Darin had already been with Devon for over three minutes before he arrived. Darin knew absolutely Devon was gone, and he knew it was crucial that Damon get some assistance.

    Darin had been doing cpr on Devon in front of Darlie before Waddell arrived, it made no sense to me why Darin would have put on that show in front of Waddell unless it was to try and cover up. Darin had intentionally denied help to Darlie and Damon that was obvious.

    There is no doubt that the jury would not have been able to convict Darlie if they had been shown all the evidence against Darin.

    They didn't see the jeans Darin had on that had blood spatter on it that could have only gotten there if he had been the one who stabbed the boys. Darin never went anywhere near Damon so this proves he had to have been near him during the stabbings.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    You mentioned that Darlie's attorney and the prosecution never looked at Darin, but that's not true. The prosecution absolutely looked at Darin. In fact, I saw an interview with Greg Davis that happened about a year-and-a-half ago and he specifically said that the investigators and the prosecution, himself included, were convinced that Darin knows more than he's saying. They just didn't have the evidence to prove it. Greg Davis said that directly himself. So the prosecution absolutely believed that Darin was either involved or complicit in helping Darlie cover up this crime.

    YES YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT DAVIS KNOWING DARIN WAS GUILTY, WHAT I AM SAYING IS DARIN WAS SPARED PROSECUTION BECAUSE HE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DA'S OFFICE. THAT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION FOR THEM ALLOWING DARIN TO WALK FREE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE KARLA HOMOLKA CASE IN CANADA. THEY MADE A DEAL WITH HER BEFOR THEY FOUND THE TAPES WHERE SHE PARTICIPATED IN THE RAPE AND MURDER OF ALL THOSE GIRLS INCLUDING HER OWN SISTER. THEY HAVE TO OF MADE A DEAL WITH DARIN, THAT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION FOR HIM BEING FREE TODAY.

    I WA S REFERRING TO DARLIES LAWYER MULDER. DARIN AND DARLIE HIRED HIM ONLY BECAUSE HE AGREED TO NOT IMPLICATE DARIN IN THE CRIME. READ THROUGH THE TRANSCRIPTS. ANY AND ALL TIMES THAT DARINS ACTIVITIES OR WHEREABOUTS CAME UP THEY ALL CHANGED THE SUBJUECT. THEY CAN SAY WHAT EVER THEY WANT BUT THE FACTS PROVE DARLIE DIDNT AND COULDNT HAVE SEEN DARIN COME OUT OF HIS ROOM. THAT ONE EXPLANATION AND THAT ALONE WAS THE ONLY EXCUSE THEY HAD NOT TO GO AFTER DARIN.

    I HAVE ASKED OVER AND OVER THROUGH THE YEARS. SHOW ME ONE BIT OF PROOF WHERE DARLIE ACTUALLY SAYS SHE SAW HIM COME OUT OF HIS ROOM AND DOWN THOSE STAIRS. YOU WILL NOT FIND IT, BECAUSE DARLIE NEVER TOOK IT TO THAT EXTENT TO PROTECT DARIN. SHE WAS BULLIED INTO SAYING DARIN WASNT THE ONE, BUT SHE NEVER USED THOSE WORDS.

    I HAVE FOUND PROOF OF DARINS GUITLT, AND I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY IT. THEY ARE COVERING FOR DARIN, I AM HAVE MY SPECTULATIONS AS TO WHY. THAT MIGHT NOT BE PROOF BUT ITS REASONABLE DOUBT THAT MULDER NEVER BROUGHT TO TRIAL.

    I do agree with you that Darin knows more than he is saying and that Darin may have been involved in this crime.

    TRUST ME, HE IS MORE THAN INVOLVED. HE CONVINCED DARLIE THAT HE WASNT THE INTRUDER, BUT HER DESCRIPTION OF THE INTRUDER SHE GAVE RIGHT AFTER POLICE ARRIVED WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PROVE TO ME HE DID IT. THE POLICE SCREWED UP, AND EVERYONE COVERED UP FOR THEM.

    NABORS STILL WORKS FOR THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND HE IS STILL STICKING TO HIS LIES.

    Where my opinion differs from yours is that I firmly believe that Darlie was also involved in this crime. Many of the reasons for that were listed by Shaun Edmonds. My primary reason is that if this were done for insurance money Darlie would be as dead as Devon and Damon with deep stab wounds, not a quarter inch slash.

    Additionally, it's been pretty well established that Darlie herself told Mulder that he was not allowed to pursue Darin. It was one of the reasons darlie fired her original two court appointed attorneys, because they wanted to go after Darin. And she wouldn't allow it.

    I KNOW THAT, BUT DARLIE KEE WAS BEHIND ALL OF THAT. SHE KNEW DARIN WAS INVOLVED AND SHE COVERED FOR HIM. SHE IS STILL COVERING FOR HIM. THERE IS SOMETHING SICKENING ABOUT THAT WOMAN. SHE DOESNT HAVE NORMAL FEELINGS TOWARDS DARIN. THAT IS OBVIOUS. DARLIE HAS HER DOUBTS NOW THAT DARLIE KEE AND DARIN AREN''T RIGHT THERE TO FEED HER THE INFORMATION THEY WANT TO HER TO HEAR.

    DARLIE IS NOT GOING TO GET A NEW TRIAL UNLESS SHE GETS OFF HER ASS AND DOES HER OWN RESEARCH. DARLIE KEE CONTROLLED THE DNA TESTING, AND SHE DELIBRATELY LEFT OUT ANY TESTING THAT PROVED DARINS GUILT. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS DARLIE LOST HER FINANCIAL SUPPORT. SHE WILL NEVER GET OUT SO LONG AS SHE DEFENDS A BABY KILLER.

    Darlie has repeatedly, even to this day, stated that the Intruder was absolutely, positively NOT Darin.

    READ HER DESCRIPTION OF THE INTRUDER, IT MATCHES DARIN EXATLY. LISTEN TO THE 911 CALL. DARLIE WAS NOT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS WHEN DARIN APPEARED. HE WAITED UNTIL SHE WAS OUT OF THAT AREA AND OUT OF SIGHT BEFORE HE APPEARED.

    I DONT MEAN TO IGNORENT HERE, BUT I HAVE RESEARCHED THIS CASE FOR MANY YEARS. DARLIE DIDNT SEE DARIN COME OUT OF THAT ROOM.

    GO TO 15 SECONDS INTO THAT CALL. ACCORDING TO DARIN HE CAME DOWN THE STAIRS AND HE PUSHED DARLIE ASIDE AND HE RAN RIGHT OVER TO DEVON.

    THEN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY SHE GOES AND GETS THAT PHONE AND SECONDS LATER SHE IS HEARD TELLING DARIN TO HURRY. DARIN JUST APPEARED THE SECOND SHE WAS OUT OF SIGHT. IF THEY HAD CHECKED OUT DARINS STORY THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN IMMEDIATLELY THAT HE LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

    THE REASON I DONT BELIEVE DARLIE WAS INVOLVED IS BECAUSE DARIN WOULDNT HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THAT TROUBLE TO TRY AND CONVINCE DARLIE THAT IT WAS NOT HIM WHO KILLED THOSE BOYS. IF DARLIE WAS IN ON DARINS PLAN THEN WE NEVER WOULD HAVE FOUND EVIDENCE OF DARIN TRYING TO COVER UP.

    So if you truly believe Darin did it, you must also believe that Darlie is either lying or purposely covering up for him.

    I HAVE HAD DOUBTS, THE ONE QUESTTION THAT KEPT COMING UP WITH ME WAS WHY DIDNT ANYONE ASK DAMON WHO DID THAT TO HIM. NOT ONE PERSON, DARLIE, WADDELL, WALLING,THE MEDICS, NO BODY. DARLIE WASNT CONCERNED WITH THE INTRUDER THAT 911 CALL PROVED THAT TO ME. IT WAS DARIN, DURING THOSE 5 MINUTES AND 44 SECONDS ALL DARIN TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT INTRUDER, YET HE NEVER LOOKED FOR HIM, HE NEVER ASKED DAMON WHO DID THAT TO HIM. HE DIDNT EVEN TOUCH OR GO NEAR HIS LIVING SON. HE STAYED THE ENTIRE TIME WITH THE SON HE KNEW AND ADMITTED WAS DEAD WHEN HE FIRST GOT TO HIM.

    DARIN USED DEVONS DEAD BODY TO DECIEVE DARLIE THEN TO DECIEVE AND SHOCK OFFICER WADDELL. I KNOW HE IS GUILTY AND I AM GOING TO PROVE IT.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: Well it didn't take Bryan St John to try and milk his son crime. Apparently he is out there blaming welfare or social services for allowing his son to be around the 2 year old boy. He is already trying to get paid out for legal fee's. WOW

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Polly: Sorry Polly, its hard to find anything new on this case. Nobody seems to care that a innocent mother was set up and the killer is free to live his life. There is mounds of evidence right there on the internet to prove Darlies innocence, but it takes a lot of time combing through it. I have been coming here hoping to learn new things, but people have been so beat down by Bryan and his clan that they found better things to research.

    This might be new. I believe that Darin turned on Darlie and that's the reason they tried so desperately to hide the evidence against Darin. I guess the state of Texas is ok with letting a child killer go free.

    Darin bragged about the money is going to make off the movie deals about this story. Guess Texas is ok with that might bring tourist to that state, kinda like the way they slaughtered Aileen Wornos. They made blood money off her, while pulling the plug.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    This was the article where Bryan comments on his own sons involvement. Makes me sick, he doesn't even know if his son is guilty and he is out there publicly putting thoughts in the minds everyone.

    The incarcerated St. John’s father, Bryan St. John, has said his son should not have been in contact with the 2-year-old due to the case.

    “The Children Services worker knew he was in the house when he shouldn’t have been in the house,” Bryan St. John said. “I would like to see that Children Services worker held accountable for this as well as anything that, if the evidence shows my son did this, he needs to be held accountable as well.”

    Martin said she allowed St. John and two siblings to stay in her residence “because their mom just got kicked out” and “they didn’t have nowhere to go.”

    The Dayton Daily News asked Dayton police for an interview regarding the investigation. No response was obtained.

    The deceased child’s 19-year-old father, Darryl Ferguson, is serving the first year of an 11-year voluntary manslaughter sentence at a state correctional institution in Noble County for the 2014 beating death of Ryan Adams.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: I wanted to further comment on Darlie Kee's strange protectiveness towards Darin. It is far more than strange. I believe Darlie Kee had more than just friendly feelings towards Darin when she worked with him at the restaurant. She introduced her 15 year old daughter to this man. That isn't just inappropriate, but it was just plain sick. Darin didn't just manipulate Darlie Kee, he also got to Darlies sister. He was seen publicly making out with her after Darlie's conviction. Darin didn't move in with his family during or after the conviction of Darlie. Darin made sure he stayed as close as possible to Darlie Kee, he moved in with her. Here is man that was in the home while the family was attacked, claiming to be asleep the entire time. Through investigation Darlie Kee was told that there was over whelming evidence to prove Darins guilt, I personally spent years looking through this, and it is absolutely true. I have found evidence that proves Darins guilt. There was more than enough grounds to take Darin in and they have done nothing. Knowing all this evidence was there to prove Darins guilt, Darlie Kee allowed that man to move into her home.

    She didn't even bother to look into Darin. That convinced me without doubt that her feelings towards Darin were never as a son in law. I have seen no evidence of Darlie Kee ever trying to help Darlie.

    The only thing she has done is rob the public for funding. I have called Cooper many times and this lawyer that has been paid to help Darlie doesn't even answer his phone half the time. He isn't even willing to look at new evidence.

    I believe Darlie kee has instructed Cooper to focus on the intruder theory and nothing else. This also proves to me she is fully aware of Darins guilt.

    Basia admitted that she knew the owner of that black car that Darin had been talking about before and after the crime. Basia said she was to scared to go to the police about the black car. That convinced me even more of her involvement in that crime. She says she believes Darin helped stage, but I know she knows he played a much bigger part in that crime.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: Bryan St Johns son was arrested for killing a 2 year old boy on valentines day. Bryan for years slandered Darlie kee for her parenting and basically contributed that to why Darlie may have killed her kids. Now Bryans son is charged with murdering a 2 year old boy. I was pointing out in that Basia tape he did where he was pushing his child away while he was smoking talking murder, and swearing on the tape in front of his child. He was on youtube making the tape for over an hour and at the end of the tape he tells Basia he has to go feed his kid, but in the meantime he spent over an hour pushing that child away. Bryans kids have been exposed to everything, a child shouldn't be exposed to cig smoke first of all, but he kept his children in the room when he went into detail of the murders and slandering Darlie and her mother and whoever else. Bryan admitted he was reported for child abuse, he has threatened many people on the internet. Now we get to have a look at how Bryan raised his son to become a killer, if he is convicted.

    Not only that Bryans first words about this case regarding his son, weren't defending him, saying innocent until proven guilty, Bryans first words were if he did then he should pay the price. What the hell kind of parent says that when your child hasn't even gone to trial.

    Bryan is going to try and use this to make money and exploit it.

    Not only that, Darlie kee reaches out and she tells Bryan she is sorry. WTF, after everything Bryan has done to that family, Darlie kee again back stabs her own daughter to reach out to Bryan. There is some serious crap going on here. I wanted to puke when I heard that.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    I really hate that about Kee but there are some mothers out there not like most of us are used to. I never saw what she saw in hi in the first place to want her daughter to meet. He is not nor never was good looking to me. Good thing the kids looked like her.

    What murder case are you speaking of? I would be interested to look at it.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: There is so many things that Darlie mother could have been doing for her daughter, but since the money stopped rolling in and the interviews stopped. Darlie has had little or no support at all.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: I should have stayed away from Bryan years ago. The more I listened to his mouth the more repulsed I became. He wont make this about that baby, he will make it all about him. At least he will be leaving Darlie alone for awhile.

    He is apparently friends with Darlie kee now. I have no idea how Kee can be so sickening. This man called her every name under the sun, he completely trashed her daughter in every way imaginable and now Bryan and Kee are apparently friends. So horribly pathetic.

    There are still people focusing on trying to get help for Darlie, I really hope we can at least try and get her a new trial. Another child murderer in the news is not going to help her case at all.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    He does seem very hostile (though it has been awhile since I have listened to him). I found him to have an unnatural hate for Darlie but then there have been others online like that too that seems to go beyond understanding. Many have their opinions based on the trash the cops dug up on her which is exactly why they did that. It worked on that jury for sure.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    I know this isn't the blog for St. John, but I have argued and posted regarding Bryan St. Johns threats to peoples lives all over the internet. I have pointed out the horrible treatment his kids have been subjected to on his video'. Thousands watched those video's and they just turned the other cheat. Bryan is smoke cigs and talking murder while his young child is patting him on the shoulder asking to be fed. What is Bryan doing in that video besides slandering Darlie Routier, he is pushing his kid aside continuing on with his video. If this type of abuse goes on camera, imagine what his household must be like what he isn't on camera

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: Darlie kee has always known about Darins guilt, and she has always chosen to defend him over her own daughter. The problem with Darlie is she trusted Darin and her mother, so between the two of them, Darlie only heard what they wanted her to hear. Darlie kee and Darin walked out of court arm in arm in one interview. I wanted to puke. If you read the posts about this case, there is only a very few that defend Darin outright, and I am pretty sure that Darin and or Darlie kee, and Darins familys is behind all of them. Anyone not familiar with this case that just comes by to have a peak, instantly know Darin was more than involved. Even that crap about Glen, that came from Darin, and Darlie played right into it. He knew she would beak off and that's exactly what she did.

    Personally, I think Darin went behind Darlies back after the police screwed up the crime scene and screwed up their prime suspect Darin by allowing him to destroy evidence and handle the crime scene. I think he made a deal with the state as part of the whole cover up. That is the only thing can could explain why Darin is not on death row today.

    He used Darlie to give him an alibi, and then he used Basia, her mother and himself to destroy in her in court.

    The jury never heard what a horrible creep that guy really was. Darlie deserves to have a new trial, and the jury deserves the right to hear the truth about Darin.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    No reason to delete, I want any information I can get ad wow this does say a lot. Even if she was fed up with him we can imagine how after she was charged with murdering her boys she would get so dependent on Darin being all she has and I am sure if guilty himself he would have taken every advantage of that to make her look more guilty. I wonder if he even somehow managed to put doubts in Darlie Kee's mind.

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    lindaf3 3 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

    kezzy please check your message on Fb!

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: Darin didn't want that last kid, Darlie was terrified to tell him she was pregnant, so much so she contemplated getting rid of it. I don't know if its ok to say this but you can delete, but he didn't just give her a venereal disease it was herpies, and according to ones around her there is no cure for that. He apparently cheated on her with an old girl friend. I don't care what anyone says, Darin screams guilt. I know for a fact Darlie didn't see darin come out of his room. That 911 call proves Darin didn't appear in that hallway until after Darlie went into the kitchen. If the police and her lawyer would have checked that 911 call and checked his statements they would have known he was lying and they would checked Darlie more carefully for drugs and tried to find out more about her strange behavior and memory loss. They fixated on her and let the killer go free.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    I didn't know about the affair. No one can say there is not reasonable doubt!

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    lindaf3: do you know if its true about Darin cheating on Darlie and giving her a sexually transmitted disease? I don't get how he could have never been a suspect, even now why aren't they looking into this. Darlie deserves a new trial. A jury needs to hear all the details, not just the crap about Darlie.

    That lawyer went out of his way to make sure he protected Darin. There was very objections that Darlies defence made. I don't see how they can execute her when there is so many unanswered questions.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    lindaf3: Did you watch that video I told you about? Isn't against the law for an adult to smoke in front of children? It should be against the law for them to carry on a conversation about murder. Talk about child abuse, to busy slandering people on the internet to take care of his kids, very sad. He has no room to be putting anyone down that's for sure.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: You know something else that is very interesting. Mulder was very deliberate in his questioning in court on the 911 call. He made sure he avoided any parts of that call that might have implicated Darin.

    He never asked the big question, did you see him come out of his room. He knew that when Darlie said hurry 15 seconds into that 911 call she was talking to Darin. That proved he was not there before she went and got that phone. Its obvious to me he coached her on the way to the police station on the 8 th.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: Yes I agree, I don't believe Darlie knew he did it, and don't believe she would have ever covered for him. There are to many things that lead away from that theory.

    Darin definitely didn't show up until Darlie was out of sight, if they were in on it together, that wouldn't have mattered. I believe Darlie did cover and back him when he said he was in his room, but I checked and she has never come right out and said she saw him come out of his room. She defended and believed him, but not to the extent that she used those exact words.

    I am sure Darlie has had a lot of time to put the pieces together and there is a lot to sort through, but after Darin stopped going there and controlling what she was hearing and seeing, Darlie learned a lot of things about Darin. That is why now she believes he might have been involved.

    I cant get past that black car. Its to much of a coincidence First his employees mother sees it that and points it out to Darlie, then Darin claims he saw it when he came home. The neighbor said she saw it out and went over to find out what was going on, and the sped away, then Basia and her mother saw the car speeding away at 6 pm. I believe that car was there for Darin or because of Darin.

    If that person was innocent and didn't have anything to hide, then why not come forward. It was Darin that pushed the robbery/sexual assault theory not Darlie. Most of all I do not believe that girl would have ever done that to those boys or to herself.

    Darlie can help herself right now if she goes through those transcripts and realizes that Darin was not there when he claimed to be. I already know she didn't see him come down those stairs or even out of his room, She would have left a blood puddle there and there is no evidence of that.

    The only way I would ever believe that Darin didn't do this is if Darlie told me in her own words that there was no way for him to have fooled her. I already know she cant do that because she has already admitted it was possible and she has doubts about him.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    Kezzy, I think Darin very well could have gotten Darlie to say certain things to cover for him but just to protect him not because she thought he was guilty. I will never believe she thought he killed the boys and covered for him and of course he visited her faithfully and plead his undying love for years to her in prison while he was making money on the whole act he was putting on.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: When you look at the questioning that Mulder did regarding the 911 call, he deliberately went right past all the parts of that 911 call that made Darin look guilty.

    Mulder skipped right past the part where Darin was harassing Darlie about missing items. He doesn't mention anything about her getting mad at Darin for insisting it was a robbery.

    If this was a set up done by Darlie why would she have left her jewellery right there in the open. Wouldn't she have gotten rid of it?

    That intruder she talks about didn't run out the quickest exit, he was headed right over to Darlies jewellery. This crime was interrupted. I am very sure of that. This entire 911 call screams guilt for Darin, and Mulder deliberately avoided any questions at all that pointed to Darin as being that intruder. No wonder the jury found her guilty.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: That is very odd, I have gone through everything and there is nothing to indicate to me that there was an intruder.

    There is something that is bothering about Darlies statement in court.

    She starts to go through the details of what happened and when she gets to the part where she is explaining about going to get the phone, she says that Darin went over to Devon at that time, but she isn't telling the truth

    When you listen to the 911 call. Darlie is clearly telling Darin to hurry, that means Darin had just arrived, he wasn't there before she got the phone. So why would she be covering for him? She had know there was something very suspicious about that wouldn't she?

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    It is pretty odd an intruder would not bring their own weapon but then isn't it true one of the boy's blood was not found on that knife?

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    One thing I am sure of, Darlie didn't inflict those neck injuries herself. She was laying down when she was cut. The person that cut her was standing above her and she facing the back of he couch. We did test that theory out. I have no idea why Mulder didn't put the prosecutions theory to the test.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    I had taken some information from the trial and gave it too a crime writer. I wanted to know if my theory or the evidence that I uncovered was prove of guilt. It was quite a long letter, but I am hoping to hear back soon. I will let you know what the results are either way. We are either on the right track or way off base. Drake has been through so much already. I am not hoping to be right in my assumptions. He has lost his mom for the past 20 years, but on the other hand he deserves to know the truth and Damon and Devon have to have justice no matter the outcome of the case.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: you are so right about that. Mulder only had that case for three months before it went to trial. You know the lawyer is screwing up when he is working a capital case and you have the judge falling sleep all the time. Mulder had no business taking on that case. He admitted to making two major mistakes, one was putting Darlie on the stand, and the other was not putting a stop to the silly string tape. In my eyes he made a lot more than just two mistakes.

    Darlie wasn't likable, they hated her with every fiber. She went into that trial believing that she was never going to be convicted. When you look at the prosecutions evidence and theory its a complete joke. Darlie was angry and cocky. She honestly believed innocent people do not go to jail. But on the other you have to look at Casey Anthony, I followed that case from start to finish, it took me a long time to get over that verdict.

    All I know is have said for years on end, if they continued with that intruder theory, Darlie may as well just give up. There wasn't evidence of an intruder 20 years ago, and there hasn't been any evidence since. Her appeals were completely wasted on that theory. In my opinion there is only one decision that a jury has to vote on, and that's whether or not Darlie was a victim or willing participant. Myself, the evidence shows me she was railroaded. I do not believe she had a reason to kill those kids, and she never would have agreed to have herself chopped up that way.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    I honestly think the prosecution just turned the jury against Darlie cause she was young and pretty and had gone to bars and she acted ditsy and played right into their impression and Mulder should have stopped all that since it had nothing to do with nothing. It does not a murderer make. Then the silly string on top of that and people today still hate her for that. You cannot get them to listen to anything because of that!

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: To be honest with you, I think they just rushed to judgement with Darlie and I don't believe anyone has really investigated Darin until these past few years. I know by the postings that majority of the public are convinced he was involved, if not even responsible. But a person has devote years of their time researching things. In Darins case he has thrown in so much chaos a person gets so frustrated trying to sort through it they give up. A couple of us just took it on a spare hobby, before we knew it we were working on more and more everyday. The more we looked the more convinced we were of his guilt

    Not to put Texas down, but I did read a survey on Texas rating the education of each state. California has the highest amount of low educated people, Texas rates at 49 percent. That is based on just getting high school diploma. I believe that it the reason for so many wrong conviction in that state. Those people are expected to learn and figure out the science in forensics in a matter of days or weeks, when it takes the experts years to learn what they learn. So when they are fed a cock n bull story about forensic science or evidence to do with DNA they don't bother to research what it is or what it means. They rely on the prosecution and lawyers to be honest. We all know that doesn't happen very often.

    In Darlies case there was only one crucial mistake made in my eyes and that was trusting Mulder. Darin and Darlie kee convinced Darlie they didn't have a case and when Darlie was asked not to implicate Darin she had no idea she signing her own death warrant.

    Its time now for an honest judge to step up and realize that Darlie is a victim in all of this. She had no idea what conflict of interest even meant. She couldn't have known the damage it would cause her case by trusting Mulder. There was no defense there for her.

    The fact that a jury could believe the prosecutions theory on the sock just proved how little those people knew about the case. They a choice to make, either Darlie or a stranger, and Mulder never made the slightest effort to prove the intruder theory. The jury went with the only choice they had. Mulder should be ashamed of himself and retire if he hasn't already. Then he should hire a high profile lawyer and pay for it out of his own pocket.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    I think she was drugged too which would answer much of how she acted. As soon as I read that theory I bought it! It is talked about in this book and if you get the chance to read this is is very good. Things talked about you would not read about anywhere else and the notion of a white truck that had been spotted, not the black car and of course if it were the truck Darin would be pushing the black car theory.

    These two guys could have well been in on this. One was really disturbed about stabbing these little kids. He is dead but there is still one living as of the time of the book anyway. Why is no one talking to him?

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie: I believe Darlie was drugged. She had all the symptoms. I thought it very strange that the attack had happened so quickly after she had gone to bed. The drug takes about 30 minutes to take affect. Within the first 2 hours a person can be in an almost coma like state where they don't remember anything. After that they slowly start to come back. One of things that convinced she was drugged was because Darlie never cried in pain once in those entire 6 minutes. She even mentioned paid. She bring up feeling dizzy and weak. Those are side effects with that drug. But the big one for me was her normal blood pressure. These drugs lower your blood pressure. Why weren't they suspicious when Darlie's blood pressure was normal. Here they had a woman who had supposedly stabbed two children, ran around a large home staging the crime scene, ran down the alley to plant evidence and they are claiming that her blood pressure being normal was not a sign of drugs. She was on diet pills but that is not one of the side effects of that drug.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: There is no possible way that Darlies mother couldn't have known about all this information. If she didn't know back then she sure as hell knows now and she still choses to turn her back on all this evidence and stand behind Darin instead of helping her daughter. Darlie's mother never continued to try and fight to have the evidence against Darin brought into trial. She has wasted time and money on DNA testing that she knows will never prove the intruder theory. That was a dead issue from the start. The odds of an intruder doing that crime is virtually impossible. I am going to look into finding out if any person have ask the courts to finish the DNA testing that was started by the court appointed lawyers. The prosecution and Darlies lawyer deliberately with held information that would have changed the verdict. That I am certain of. Mulder not only chose not to bring in Darins jeans but his underwear that also had blood on it was seen by the jury either. Mulder knew there wasn't just two suspects he knew Darin was a very strong suspect. He chose to let Darin off the hook, just so he could take Darlies case.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley you know what else is very curious to me. Darin said he was down stairs already when Darlie ran to get the phone. But in other statements he said he was already with Devon when he saw Darlie with the phone.

    If you go to the 911 call. You can clearly hear Darlie pull the phone away from her mouth, to talk to someone else. Darlie says 'hurry' 15 seconds into that 911 call. That proves without a doubt that Darin had not yet reached Devon. That proves that Darin waited until Darlie was out of site in the kitchen before he emerged. I believe he came from that dining room right beside the landing of those stairs. Darlie wouldn't have had a clue where he came from at that time, but if Darin appeared when he said he did, why didn't we hear that dog bark until 3 minutes and 30 seconds into the call. That masterbedroom door was shut, and it stayed shut with that dog in that room right up until the 3 minutes and 30 seconds into the call.

    Not only Darin lied in his police statement when he said he went back up stairs to put pants on at that time, but he didn't. So does the man of the house hear glass break and his wife scream frantically stop to put pants on and then close the bedroom door behind him. He said nothing of that. So if Darin was in bed and asleep, how is it possible for him to have been dressed when he ran down the stairs in a frantic rush as he claimed. The evidence is all there, it always had been, but nobody bothered to check out Darins story. We already know Mulder didn't investigate Darin and anyone had, this information would have been discovered long before the trial.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    Kezzy, my guess is that Texas does not want to have to pay Darlie millions of dollars as they have had to other wrongfully convicted and they know it will show how out of their way they went to frame her. Apparently they really did not like Darlie for some reason and maybe Darin played his hand in that for as you say he had so much to be looked at that didn't add up, why were they so off looking closer at him.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: This case baffles me. There is a group out there for sure that intervene every time someone comes forward with evidence against Darin. They have gone to great lengths to make sure that evidence against Darin stays hidden. I was told by someone today that there is a lot of cover up that goes on in these trials. That is the only thing makes sense here.

    When I went through that 911 call, and I learned that Darin had lied about Darlie seeing him come out of his room it set me off again. The over whelming evidence that those two court appointed lawyers found against Darin convinced me 100 percent of his guilt.

    Even if they dont grant Darlie a new trial they need to go after Darin with everything they have. Darin never touched Damon, he didn't go anywhere near that boy so Darin has no way to explain away any blood from that boy at all. The 911 call also proves he didn't touch Damon, I just dont understand how Darlies mother can be aware of this evidence and still tale Darins side. All these years instead of wasting time on the intruder theory they should have been submitting evidence about Darin. Darlies mother refuses to talk about it. I read an article that stated Darin made over 250,000 off of Darlies bad fate. I quess he stuck around long enough to get paid out, when the money stopped coming in for the interviews and statements he decided to move on. I hope they put a stop to him making a profit off such a tragic story

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    It does seem a fact everyone has Darin's back doesn't it? I could never believe they did not suspect first the one who was to benefit!

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    There are many out there who believe I am obsessed over Darins guilt.

    If that is true and I am wrong about Darlie seeing Darin come out of his room and come down those stairs, I would appreciate it some would take the time to prove to me that Darlie ever admitted, documented or testified to the fact that she saw Darin come out of his room and down those stairs.

    This is the key to Darlies innocence. If I am right, which I am, and Darlie didn't actually see Darin come out of his room that changes everything. The trial was based on the fact that it was proven that there was only two suspects according to the prosecution.

    I have proven through theory that this is not true. There is and always was three suspects, Darlie, the intruder and Darin.

    It was never proven nor confirmed that Darin was in his room during the attack. Nobody had proven to me that it was impossible for Darin to have murdered his children. But I on the other hand have proven it was possible, probably and with premeditated intent.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Seconds pass again and Darlie is now over with Devon, that is when she screams out that Devon is dead. Devon never moved from where he was attacked. Devon was already dead when Darin got to him, yet Darin stayed with Devon for 3 minutes and 18 seconds while Damon was laying just a few feet away fighting for his life.

    When Darin finally got up and left Devons side, it was to go upstairs before the police arrived. It was not to go over and help Damon or Darlie. I have not heard Darlie say the words that she saw Darin come out of his room and down those stairs.

    At thirty seconds or so Darlie is over at Devons body. Darlie is describing the cpr that Darin is doing on Devon in detail. So how is it possible that 4 minutes later Darin is back at Devons body after Waddell arrives to be doing that exact same cpr on him. Darin would have had to step right past his living son Damon to go back over to his son Devon, who he knew for a fact died 4 minutes earlier.

    Then it was even after that Darin runs over to karens claiming to need help, he already knew Devon had been dead for 5 minutes. He also knew that the medics were with Darlie and Damon before he ran over to karens. Karen also gave this same story.

    We now know by the 911 call that Darlie never saw Darin come out of his room. We also know that when Darin went over to karens he knew help had arrived for his boys. This only led me to be more suspicious that Darin was putting on a show in front of Waddell and then another in front of Karen.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    This is what my issue is with this case. The only reason Darin was not treated as a suspect was because Darlie backed Darin up when he told her he came out of his room.

    I read Darlies testimony. If Darlie didnt see which room Darin emerged from then that proves he was and should have been the major susect in this case.

    Mulder didnt research this case, and didnt put Darins testimony to the test. If he had investigated Darin he would have known that Darlie didnt and couldnt have been there when Darin got to the hallway.

    Darlie wouldnt have been saying to Darin hurry, Darin would have already been with Devon and she would not have been saying hurry. Hurry meant Darin was in motion at that time just heading over to Devon. To further confirm this there is no conversation between Darlie and Darin prior to that 15 seconds into the 911 call.

    Seconds pass again and Darlie is now over with Devon, that is when she screams out that Devon is dead. Devon never moved from where he was attacked. Devon was already dead when Darin got to him, yet Darin stayed with Devon for 3 minutes and 18 seconds while Damon was laying just a few feet away fighting for his life.

    When Darin finally got up and left Devons side, it was to go upstairs before the police arrived. It was not to go over and help Damon or Darlie.

    There is absolutely no way in hell that Darlie could have seen Darin come out of his room or down those stairs.

    No matter how many times Darin has changed his story, he can not change what we all heard on that 911 call.

    If Mulder really was representing Darlie and not protecting Darin then he would have known before the trial that Darlie didn't see Darin come out of his room. He should have proven to the jury right then that Darin was a strong suspect and he didn't have a witness that saw him come out of his room. Darin cant change what was said on that 911 call.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Bryan/Sclemmons: Again you have chosen to slander and lie about me. I gave opportunity for Sclemmons to show the proof of Darlies 8 statements and has claimed she wrote and lied. Instead they attack my personality Pathetic. Bryan may have been called all sorts of names because of who he is but those insults do not come from one person.

    You have cluttered this blog and article with lies and childish nonsense.

    I am obsessed with case. When I learned of all the evidence against Darin I became even more obsessed. Worried about me mentally, give me a break. There is mother in jail that may not have murdered her children, there is son who was very sick and he hasn't touched his mother I 20 years. I have a son, and I couldn't even begin to imagine not being able to touch him. Yes, obsessed is exactly what I am. I am going to make sure everyone knows everything I have uncovered about Darin. BASED ON FACTS AND TRUTH. You have called me a liar, but you have failed to show me any proof of that. I do appreciate healthy conflict, I know I have a lot to learn still about this case, but your comments have nothing to do with case. I have asked you to leave me alone. I have stopped going on Sclemmons site because of his lies about Darlie and the sickening conversations on that blog.

    AGAIN I ASK YOU TO PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. IF POLLY OR ANY OTHER PERSON DOESNT LIKE MY POSTS THATS FINE, I RESPECT THAT, BUT ITS NOT UP TO YOU TO COME ONTO THESE OTHER SITES TO SLANDER ME OR MAKE LIES ABOUT ME.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: It is a fact that Darlie Kee has stuck by Darin. I have no idea why she has chosen not to look at the evidence. I know in Darlie's last interview she stated that did believe that Darin was involved. She was turning that direction just because of certain facts that Darin had lied to her about.

    One fact that I am sure about is Darlie didn't see Darin come out of his room as he claimed. I also know that Darlie did not push past Darlie as he claimed.

    If you listen to that 911 call you can clearly hear Darlie say to Darin hurry. That is the first time she talks or there is any sign that he was even there. He waited until Darlie went to the kitchen, and he ran out just as she was returning to the boys.

    Darlie went anywhere near the landing on those stairs. Just as the lawyers and Richard Burr stated, had the police investigated Darin and listen to the 911 call and really looked at the evidence they would have known that Darin had been coaching Darlie on what he claimed happened that morning. But the most important fact here they would have known Darin didn't have an alibi in Darlie. That would have made him prime suspect. He had all the motives, and now we know he had no alibi and all the opportunities to do that crime.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    I have not posted lies about anyone regarding this case or any other. I viewed the case and told my theory of how it was very possible for Darin to have killed those boys. I have repeatedly asked anyone who felt I was lying about something I have posted then point it out specifically.

    Sclemmons had told me and everyone that he has seen 8 or more statements that Darlie has written where she lied on all those statements.

    I HAVE YET TO SEE AND FACTS OR TRUTH FROM BRYAN OR SCLEMMONS. If you are going to call someone out and try to make them look the fool, then do right the right thing and put your proof out there.

    SHOW EVERYONE WHAT I HAVE LIED ABOUT, DONT JUST SAY I HAVE LIED. SICKENING PATHETIC PEOPLE.

    As far as Bryan goes, Darlie kee has full intentions of suing you for your lies and slander. When voice my opinion about that woman its based on facts not lies just to stop the funding.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    No you are wrong on this Jez. The cops secretly filmed this graveyard scene and only put out the party part not the crying which you can search and find easy enough online (it may even be in this article, not sure) but two cops I believe it was took the 5th over this and the lawyer just let this great opportunity pass him by.

    I was not aware Darlie was turning against Darin. I guess he feels safe now from her and whatever she might say. Especially it looks as though he has Darlie Kee on his side according to Kezy.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: I totally agree with you. When I first looked at this case many years ago, I was directed to Darin intentionally. It was just one thing after another. The failed poly tests, the rude sickening comments, the continuous lies. The more I looked into him the more convinced I was of his guilt, and yes the bad vibes. What is so upsetting is people are thinking, but few say it. I think that's because of Drake. My heart goes out to that boy, it really does, but he was robbed of his mother in the worst possible way. That boy has lived such a hard life and I believe Darin is the reason he hasn't had his mother.

    I do believe that Darlie was punished because she wanted out of that marriage. If you look back at what Darin was dealing with that night, it would make any sane man snap. Not making excuses here, but giving a reasonable explanation as to why he might have snapped.

    I do agree with your opinion. I think a lot of research went into your comments. I hope for Darlie and Drake the truth finally gets told and she is released.

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    Jackie Lynnley 3 months ago from The Beautiful South

    Jez- You sure have that wrong. The whole thing is on video which the cops had no right to do and they plead the 5th but did that lawyer use that for his client? Of course not.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: You are a very smart little lady. No he didn't implicate Darin. Even though he was on the defensive about what the other lawyers accused him of, he still went ahead with that trial and kept all that evidence away from the jury.

    They all knew that if the jury didn't hear the evidence against Darin, Darlie would be convicted. All of them including Darlies mother chose to go ahead and hire Mulder knowing full well what his real intentions were.

    They want facts, well got to the transcripts and read the statements by between Darin and Mulder. Darin is asked about the glass table he claimed fell on Devon. He gave his speech and instead of proving Darin was a liar, Mulder tried to get Darin to change his statement about the glass table falling on his son. Mulder didn't implicate Darin in the crime, but what he did do was try to help Darin cover up lies during his testimony. That is a fact, and its right there for everyone to read. This comment about facts is directed to Heather

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    It amazes me to see other people who have made hub accounts coming on to this site knocking down the writer. They put this site down for using such words and screwed up and botched. Claiming none of us are detectives and we sat back watching video's and posting the information.

    First of all, the police did screw up. The main detective Patterson admitted he held that file, but he never took any personal hand written notes. He didn't even read the file until just before he testified. He also stated that he didnt even remember Darlie telling him about a struggle in the kitchen. He didnt even take notes when he interviewed Darin. He never separated Darin from Darlie, in fact none of the police separated him from anything, not even the house. Darin was the only other adult in that home and he should have been immediately separated from Darlie and made to give a statement. That didnt happen. One of the most important pieces of evidence, the nightgown, was clearly mishandled. It wasn't even put into secure evidence, it was bagged wet with other items and first ended up at the fire hall where it was picked up later.

    They didnt even bother to check out Darins story to see if he was in his room, if they had looked into they would have seen Darlie was never at the foot of those stairs as he claimed. They would have known he didnt come out of his room when he claimed. All Darins lies would have been exposed within minutes had the police checked.

    Look at the cap. It took the police 14 days to go back and get that black cap. The house had already been turned back to Darin by the time they went back for the cap. These are just a few of the screw ups in this case.

    Cron was there just to look at the scene, but he decided to even move and touch the evidence. He lifted the vacuum cleaner and he pressed his body up against the table. Then he lied to forensics officers by telling them there was no blood in the garage. There was blood found right there on Darins runners. He then made up an excuse by accusing someone of planting the blood there later. Don't see how that was possible when they claimed to have secured that crime scene.

    They also didnt explain how Darin got back into that house to look over the evidence. yes, not to go see Devon, but Darin admitted he went back into that house just to view the evidence. If that isn't suspicious I don't know what the hell is.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: Did you know most people that read into Darlies case don't even know about the other part of the funeral service/birthday party. To this day I have only heard about it, but never saw it. I did post that it was out there and the Darlie haters called me a liar. Unless they see it up front and personal they accuse anyone who brings new evidence to the table liars. I can see why its been so difficult to get the truth out there for people to see. Its nice that you have brought up many hidden or hard to find facts.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    lindaf3: I guess we are not the only ones being stalked and harassed here on hub. Check out some of the other posts. He is at it with someone else now. Anyone with any garbage on their record is going to be slandered and bullied. I guess some hub posters don't get it until it too late.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Sinsaint: You know another thing that upsets me. Darlies mother is aware that there was and is evidence to prove Darins guilt, rather than properly investigate that avenue, she has chosen to waste the publics money and all the dna testing on the intruder theory. She knows there was no intruder, and she is willing to let her own daughter rot in jail rather than let an proper investigation clear Darin. She knows once that can of worms is open it proves Darlie didn't kill her children, but she also knows that proves she lied and protected the killer for the past 20 years. All I am saying is if Darin didn't kill those kids then let the legal system go through the evidence and clear him once and for all. They deceived the public and the jury by hiring Mulder and allowing him to keep that evidence away from the jury. They knew they were all warned before the trial. IF THEY KEPT THAT EVIDENCE AGAINST DARIN AWAY FROM THE JURY DARLIE WOULD GO TO DEATH ROW. Darlie kee, Darin, Darins family everyone of them knew Darlies only hope was to show the jury all the evidence. They chose to protect Darin.

    I ask you this. If Darin was innocent then wouldn't he have done anything to save his wife? Why did he cut off his hair and change his appearance so he didn't resemble the intruder. Why didn't Darin let the insurance do the investigation so he could collect on a policy that was in good standing.

    Darin was behind on all of his bills, yet the one thing he made sure to keep the payments on was that life insurance policy, you don't find that odd at all?

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Sinsaint: There was no intruder. For twenty years there has never been one shred of evidence to prove an intruder. The fact that you would even bring that up shocks.

    First of all this was a well lit home.

    Darlie and her two boys were asleep I plain view.

    The tv was on and it could be seen through the windows

    Dispite Darin trying to convince the officer that they took and ran nothing was taken.

    The house wasn't just lit up on the inside it was lit up outside by fountain

    In order for the intruder to have left that home he had to leave through the back because Gorsuch just got home he would have seen an intruder.

    The intruder would have had to know there was an exit through the kitchen

    He would have known where not to walk to trigger the light in the back yard, the same light that stays on for 17 minutes after it lights up.

    There was no sign of the gate being opened, why would an intruder take the time to close the back gate.

    There was nothing taken and no attempt of a robbery.

    Darin is the only one who noticed and brought up Darlies missing panties or a so called attempted rape.

    There was no break in and the door were locked. There was still dust on the ledge of that screen.

    Darin said he locked all the doors.

    There was no sign of any cars in that neighbor around that time except for the one the police checked.

    Darin kept bringing up to neighbors about this strange black car stalking his house, but will notice nobody ever came forward to explain why they were there. I suspect that's because it was set up by Darin as part of his premeditation for the crime. If you were innocent and you knew your car was seen around a crime scene wouldn't you come forward?

    No sign no evidence to prove the intruder.

    It wasn't a strangers sock in the alley it was Darins.

    I can name on one hand how many strangers have ever gone into a home and just randomly killed children for no reason. The doctors said this was a rage crime. The only one who would have had that kind of rage that night was Darin.

    Darlie told Darin that night she wanted to separate.

    His car was broke down, his boat was broke down, he was behind on the mortgage, credit cards, taxes, he was losing his business, he just found out a very expensive important piece of equipment broke down he didn't have the money to fix it. He applied for a 5000 dollar loan and got turned down. He promised Darlie she would be going on the trip planned for the 14th and he didn't have the money to go. Darin said he planned that robbery to take place when he was gone, but he knew he didn't have the money to even take that trip.

    Up to that night they had company in their home, either a family member or the kids had friends. It was this night that it just so happen that the home was clear for the first time of outsiders spending the night. Only two people were aware of that, Darlie and Darin. The boys had a sleep over just the night before. I looked at the intruder theory. Believe me I wanted it to be an intruder but all the evidence just kept bringing me back to Darin

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    Sinsaint 3 months ago

    Kezy1996- "They didn't convict Darlie based on the same methods or reasons I am accusing Darin."

    You are refusing to consider an assailant from outside the home, taking every minor inconsistency and turning into what you have decided is a lie and turning every prior bad act he may or may not have engaged in into some twisted logic that those bad acts prove he murdered his children.

    Does planning a robbery in the house his children live in make him a bad father? Yes. Does it prove he'd murder his children? Absolutely not. Same goes for drug use. As for him "forcing" Mulder to hide evidence? I have no doubt in my mind Mulder was highly ineffective assisting in Darlie's defense but his piss poor representation of Darlie goes far beyond any protection he MAY have offered Darin. To quote him "I decided not to call Labor or Epstein to the stand because I didn't think they had anything to bring to the party." He was so arrogant it never even dawned on him he actually needed to defend her and you can't blame those actions on Darin.

    "Darin never touched Damon so how the hell do explain Damons blood spatter on Darins jeans. HE NEVER WENT NEAR THAT BOY HE NEVER TOUCHED HIM OR EVEN TRIED TO HELP HIM"

    A) These are the exact same false accusations that were made against Darlie that were made solely to make her look like an evil mother.

    B) Darin's jeans weren't tested.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    They didn't convict Darlie based on the same methods or reasons I am accusing Darin.

    Did Darlie set up a robbery on her home.

    Did she stand to collect over 500,000 in life insurance

    Did she lie about cpr on Devon

    Did she fake trying to save Damon

    Did she go around to neighbors or anyone else complaining how the boys interfered with her naked time with Darin

    Did she make up lies about standing at the bottom of the stairs while Darin came out of her room

    Did she lie and refuse to give Damon help

    You are wrong. I am not judging Darin under the same shadow Darlie was judged.

    Darlie didn't try to frame Darin did she?

    She didn't premeditate this crime did she?

    She didn't back stab Darins employee to make sure they testified against Darin?

    She didn't ask Jovell to show up at the crime scene right after the murders to bring up a strange car did she?

    I am basing my opinion of Darins guilt based on fact and evidence. Darin had far more evidence proving he killed those children, but the jury never got to see that evidence because Darin and Darlie kee kept that from the jury and the courts.

    Darin never touched Damon so how the hell do explain Damons blood spatter on Darins jeans. HE NEVER WENT NEAR THAT BOY HE NEVER TOUCHED HIM OR EVEN TRIED TO HELP HIM

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    Sinsaint 3 months ago

    Kezzy1996- "THEY DIDNT GIVE DARLIE THE SAME COURTESY, NOT AT ALL. THEY MADE DIFFERENT RULES FOR HER THAN THEY DID FOR DARIN. "

    Which is one of the reasons I refuse to engage in the same sort of narrow minded thinking that already resulted in one innocent person being sent to death row. I will show them BOTH the same courtesy any crime victim should be shown.

    "THEY ACCUSED HER OF MURDER BECASUE OF THE NIGHTGOWN, BUT THE SAME EVIDENCE WAS SHOWN WITH DARINS PANTS AND THEY EXCUSED THAT AWAY."

    That's not correct. She was accused of murder based entirely on the assertions of Cron who stated he knew within twenty minutes of entering the house that there was no intruder and they needed to start looking at "the mother." It's called tunnel vision and it snowballed from there. Once he decided at 5:30 a.m. that same morning that Darlie did it no one ever bothered to look for evidence other than that which would confirm his theory.

    And what evidence was included in the warrant for her arrest? A blond hair, implied to be Darlie's, with root attached that Linch claimed could only have happened if it was forcibly removed from her head as she was crawling through the screen; same screen being cut from the inside; Darlie having no cuts on her feet even though she walked through the kitchen where there was broken glass; and Parchman's assertion that the wound on Darlie's neck was "a good two inches or a medical mile" from causing any serious harm.

    As it turned the hair wasn't her's, the screen was cut from the outside, her feet also had no dirt, grass or other abrasions from running down the alley and Parchman was clearly just wrong. One item of evidence that was conspicuously absent was the sock. The prosecution never brought it up during her bail hearing because they couldn't explain it in a way that implicated Darlie (and still haven't to this day).

    Obviously the prosecution saw that their case was falling apart when all their evidence from the bail hearing started unraveling. Greg Davis was never going to admit he jumped the gun by accused a crime victim of murdering her children. THAT'S when Darlie's shirt came into play.

    The prosecution hired Tom Bevel in late August/early September to come up with blood spatter evidence to support their theory of the crime. Bevel identified 19 individual blood spatters on Darlie's shirt. And no, I'm no misspeaking. 19 blood spatter stains. 5 were spatters that included blood from the boys and Darlie. The other 14 blood spatters were only from Darlie meaning:

    A) none of the stains he identified were spatter at all or

    B) 14 of the stains were spatter from when she was being attacked.

    These facts were ignored by the prosecution because they were too heavily invested in Darlie being the perpetrator. Why? Because Cron said so and the only evidence they looked for was anything that would implicate her.

    Cron did say at least one thing of interest. In these types of cases there needs to be a dual investigation, meaning you investigate people within the home as well as outside the home. Patterson testified the only people he interview in this case prior to arresting Darlie was Darlie and Darin. Inexplicably he nor Frosch never questioned or looked into anybody outside the home. I'm not going to engage in the same idiocy of refusing to consider an assailant from outside the home.

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    kezy1996 3 months ago

    Sinsaint: I want to make something very clear to you. I have not assumed that Darin has lied. I researched this case for years. When I say Darin lied its because he LIED.

    Darin lied when he said he didn't help Damon because he had no pulse.

    He lied when he said he didn't meet Waddell in the front yard.

    He lied when he said he didn't know Darlie was cut

    He lied when he said Darlie was at the bottom of the stairs when he came down

    He lied when he said he pushed past Darlie at the bottom of the stairs.

    He lied when he said he handed Drake to Darlie

    He lied when he said he took Darlie to the porch

    I can go on but I think you got the drift.

    What you aren't answering is how does a father set up a robbery on his home when he has a wife and three children living under that roof?

    How does a father leave cocaine laying around his house for his children to get into?

    How does

    How does a husband go to his wifes lawyer to force him to keep evidence out of her trial that could prove her innocene?

    Those my friend are the questions you should be asking

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Jackie Lynnley: I don't know if you have noticed or not but Bryan has not been on your site for a long time. I have quit posting on many sites due to the constant life threats and stalking. Its either the multi profile harassment or the constant threats of other sorts. He starts out by accusing of multi profiles, then he accusing the viewers of being the same person, this guy has followed and stalked and threatened every single person and site to the point they don't post any longer. As you will notice he keeps track of the amount of activity on each site. When he doesn't like the numbers he constantly stalks the people who are inquiring about the case or trying to find the truth. I really hope you put a stop to this. This isn't about his ratings, he is trying to destroy any site that has any activity at all. If someone gets along he deliberately causes problems with either threats or lies. I would like to stay on the site you have some great info and points but I cant take the threats and stalking any longer

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Sinsaint: I am sorry but I can over look some things Darin may have done that night but not all of them. Every single thing he did was so evil and calculating. There is no way you can believe Darlie is innocent and at the same time believe Darin didn't murder his children. NO WAY

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Sinsaint:Kezzy1996-

    One thing that you seem to be honing in on is the variations between the accounts being given. You're assuming any variations indicate someone, in this case Darin, is lying. It is a known fact that people involved in high stress situations don't always remember things accurately be it things they heard, saw or in what order they may have happened.

    I HAVE FACTORED THAT IN WITH DARIN TRUST ME I HAVE. IF IT WASNT FOR THE ALL THE OTHER FACTORS IN THIS CASE I MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE HIM THE BENIFIT OF THE DOUBT. A FATHER A HUSBAND DOENST HAVE THE COMMEN SENSE TO ORGANIZE AND MAKE UP LIES LIKE DARIN DID. THEY DONT HAVE THE SENSE TO GO AND CLEAN THEMSELVES UP WHILE THERE FAMILY IS DEAD AND DYING

    Victims of crimes (Darlie and Darin both) would have an even higher probability of not having a clear and accurate memory of the events given that one was attacked and the other woke up to find both of his children had been attacked along with their mother (his wife).

    THEY DIDNT GIVE DARLIE THE SAME COURTESY, NOT AT ALL. THEY MADE DIFFERENT RULES FOR HER THAN THEY DID FOR DARIN. THEY ACCUSED HER OF MURDER BECASUE OF THE NIGHTGOWN, BUT THE SAME EVIDENCE WAS SHOWN WITH DARINS PANTS AND THEY EXCUSED THAT AWAY.

    Three examples of faulty memory of people involved in crimes (responders, witnesses and victims):

    First was an experiment done in a park where the witnesses to a crime were asked what they remembered after seeing a mugging (staged mugging). All the witnesses had accounts that varied from the actual events. None of the witnesses remembered the events in order matching as other witnesses remembered (variations on the actions of mugger and victim in any particular order). Further variations in memory were what the mugger and victim wore. One witness actually thought the victim of the crime was the perpetrator and that a knife was involved.

    Second example was a study done on the memory of cops after being involved in/witnessing a crime. Two cops were questioned after a crime where the officers shot at suspects. Both cops told versions that were similar to each other but the versions varied when describing the exact sequence of events (mind you neither was lying). One officer even stated that the suspect(s) were throwing beer cans at them when the shooting happened. What the cop thought were beer cans were actually bullet casings from his own gun flying back at him.

    The third example was a home invasion where three people (a man and two women) were attacked by an intruder. The man was killed. Both women told claimed to have been awake and fighting the intruder face-to-face. Neither woman could describe anything about the intruder (clothing, height or race). When asked if it could have been a specific neighbor (both had seen the man before as he lived next door) they both said no, it wasn't him. The man's bloody footprint was found at the scene and he later confessed.

    None of the above are liars nor were they being deceptive or trying to hide anything. Their memory was inconsistent and inaccurate due to the level of stress they were under during the crimes. I do not fault Darlie for her inability to remember exactly what happened and I think Darin should be shown the same courtesy.

    I AM NOT A DOCTOR, BUT I HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW THAT A PERSON IN SHOCK DOES NOT HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO REMEMER DETAILS THE WAY DARIN DID. THEY DONT HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO WASH OFF EVIDENCE.

    DARIN KNEW WHO BROKE WHAT. HE KNEW WHO WAS STANDING WHERE. FOR CHRISTS SAKES. DARIN WENT BACK INTO HIS OWN HOME KNOWING HIS SON WAS LAYING DEAD ON THE FLOOR AND HIS ONLY CONCERN WAS TO LOOK OVER THE EVDIENCE.

    YOU ARE EXPECTING ME TO OVER LOOK TO MANY EVIL ACTS THAT MAN DID IN ONE NIGHT.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    Sinsaint: Before I even read your comment I want to say thanks for at least reading my posts. This is a very emotional case for me. I get defensive even though I have no personal interest here. So I am going to read your comments and try to be decent and civil as hard as that is for me to do.

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    Sinsaint 3 months ago

    Kezzy1996-

    One thing that you seem to be honing in on is the variations between the accounts being given. You're assuming any variations indicate someone, in this case Darin, is lying. It is a known fact that people involved in high stress situations don't always remember things accurately be it things they heard, saw or in what order they may have happened. Victims of crimes (Darlie and Darin both) would have an even higher probability of not having a clear and accurate memory of the events given that one was attacked and the other woke up to find both of his children had been attacked along with their mother (his wife).

    Three examples of faulty memory of people involved in crimes (responders, witnesses and victims):

    First was an experiment done in a park where the witnesses to a crime were asked what they remembered after seeing a mugging (staged mugging). All the witnesses had accounts that varied from the actual events. None of the witnesses remembered the events in order matching as other witnesses remembered (variations on the actions of mugger and victim in any particular order). Further variations in memory were what the mugger and victim wore. One witness actually thought the victim of the crime was the perpetrator and that a knife was involved.

    Second example was a study done on the memory of cops after being involved in/witnessing a crime. Two cops were questioned after a crime where the officers shot at suspects. Both cops told versions that were similar to each other but the versions varied when describing the exact sequence of events (mind you neither was lying). One officer even stated that the suspect(s) were throwing beer cans at them when the shooting happened. What the cop thought were beer cans were actually bullet casings from his own gun flying back at him.

    The third example was a home invasion where three people (a man and two women) were attacked by an intruder. The man was killed. Both women told claimed to have been awake and fighting the intruder face-to-face. Neither woman could describe anything about the intruder (clothing, height or race). When asked if it could have been a specific neighbor (both had seen the man before as he lived next door) they both said no, it wasn't him. The man's bloody footprint was found at the scene and he later confessed.

    None of the above are liars nor were they being deceptive or trying to hide anything. Their memory was inconsistent and inaccurate due to the level of stress they were under during the crimes. I do not fault Darlie for her inability to remember exactly what happened and I think Darin should be shown the same courtesy.

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    kezzy1996 3 months ago

    I would like to open this question to anyone.

    I would like to know what kind of a father goes around looking for a stranger anyone to come to his home to rob him when he has a wife and three young children there?

    What kind of husband fires the his wife's lawyers knowing they spent thousands of hours and dollars proving her innocence.

    What kind of father and husband decides to protect himself over his own wife when he learns that the evidence that is going to be brought to trial is evidence that could get his wife off of death row and prove her innocence. Darin and Darlies mother fired these two court appointed lawyers after they learned they had evidence against Darin that would prove she was innocent, but prove Darin was guilty.

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