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Democratic Socialism

Updated on March 4, 2019
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James A. Watkins is an entrepreneur, musician, and a writer with three non-fiction books and hundreds of magazine articles read by millions.

Manifesto of the Democratic Socialists of America

Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez call themselves Socialists. When pressed about the famine, starvation, suffering, misery, and death that Socialism wrought in the 20th Century, which was vastly worse than anything that ever before befell mankind in human history, Bernie and AOC say they are different because they are “Democratic Socialists.”

I can appreciate the New Socialists adding the word 'Democratic' to their name to distance themselves from the Socialists who murdered 100 million people. But I have been studying the Manifesto of the Democratic Socialists of America. Here is what the Democratic Socialists say they want:

"A world free from capitalism" "We reject private profit" "Eradicate the sources of inequality"

"Eliminate Free Enterprise and private charity" "Equalize wealth and income" "State ownership of what is now Private Property"

"State ownership and control of the major economic institutions of society -- the large corporations" "State ownership [Communism] and/or direct control [Fascism] of the economic resources of society" "State control over all private resources, including all land, insurance, credit, raw materials, manufacturing infrastructure, and all existing financial institutions"

"Global government across national boundaries to ensure that wages, working conditions, environmental standards and social rights are the same worldwide" "Massive redistribution of income from corporations and the wealthy to wage earners and the poor" "Eliminate Religion, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--the belief in an invisible being in the sky."

NOW, you tell me how this is different from what Socialists and Communists have always wanted?

Standard Definition of Socialism

The standard definition of Socialism has long been: “Government ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods, services, and jobs; central planning collectivism.”

Any honest Democratic Socialist will admit the ultimate aim of Democratic Socialism is “to destroy Capitalism.” Ugo Okere, a Democratic Socialist running for office in Chicago, has even bigger plans for Democratic Socialism: “To control of every single facet of our lives.”

Venezuela Has Been Ruined by Democratic Socialism

“Socialism was supposed to provide everything for us,” says a man on the street in Venezuela. Instead, starving girls as young as 14 line the streets, selling their bodies for seven dollars. Women of all ages choose prostitution to make enough money to escape the country. Even heterosexual men sell themselves on the gay market because they are starving.

There is no need to guess if Democratic Socialism works. Venezuela was the richest country in Latin America only 20 years ago. That’s when they practiced Capitalism. Then they voted for Democratic Socialism and Hugo Chavez, the darling of the American Left, took over.

Today there is no food on shelves; very little water; no gas available in an oil-rich country; no toilet paper. The proud people of Venezuela are eating out of dumpsters and garbage cans. One Venezuelan refugee says, "It's like the apocalypse. No food. No medicine."

Inside Venezuela, health care has all but dissolved. 55% of the healthcare professionals – doctors, nurses, and others – have left the country; 43% of medical facilities are abandoned. There is a resurgence of illnesses that were eradicated decades ago. Hundreds have died from measles and diphtheria; 400,000 Venezuelans have malaria; 10,000 have tuberculosis—all because of Democratic Socialism.

There is a human catastrophe in Venezuela. The country now resembles a war zone. Children are dying of hunger and disease. Suicide rates have skyrocketed, even among children. The levels of crime and violence are described as something akin to a horror movie. Their lives have been ripped apart by Democratic Socialism.

Jesus Was No Socialist

Let us disabuse those with the blasphemous notion that Jesus was a Socialist. All of the leading lights of Socialism have been Anti-Christian Atheists. It was created as a replacement worldview for Christianity.

Jesus urged His followers to personally do all they are able for their neighbors—with an emphasis on providing not only the aid but also the message of Christianity. This is the basis of Christian Charity—the word means love.

Jesus never said that governments should take your possessions and give them to someone else. Charity is the work of God; government is the work of Caesar.

The New Testament commands Christians to care for the poor, particularly widows and orphans; to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, shelter those without shelter, visit the sick and the prisoner AND tell them the GOOD NEWS—the GOSPEL.

That is Christian Charity and Christians have done an incredible job of it for nearly 2000 years. But nowhere in the Bible do you see it commanded that this be done by a State through coercive confiscation of your private property.

There are 100 places where the Bible talks about the poor but not once is any government involvement mentioned ever. What government welfare is is counterfeit Christian Charity: it mimics Christian Charity except it leaves out the most important part—the Good News; the Gospel, which it has made “illegal.”

One Trillion Dollars spent each year for the redistribution of wealth under a demonic scheme that makes the Gospel against the law. If that trillion dollars remained in our pockets that could be one trillion dollars of Christian Charity that INCLUDES the message of Jesus—that is truly 'inclusive.'

Instead of having a client dependent on the government teet for life perhaps the REAL problems underlying the incapability to take care of oneself in regard to physical needs—often a symptom of a spiritual disease—could be healed.

Why Would a Silicon Valley Billionaire Want Socialism?

Why would the richest men in the world favor Socialism? It seems counterintuitive to think the rich would want to share the world’s wealth. As explained by Gary Allen:

“If one understands that Socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting Socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses but of the economic elite.”

Some Silly Souls Do Not Seem to Grasp that Socialism and Communism are Sisters

“Central to the meaning of Socialism is common ownership of all property. This means the resources of the world being owned in common by the entire global population. Socialism would entail an end to buying, selling, and money. As far as we are concerned, Socialism and Communism are exact synonyms.” ~ The Socialist Party of Great Britain

Socialism Ends in Slavery: Totalitarianism

Socialism created the Totalitarian State, brought back slavery, produced government-created famines and poverty of enormous proportions, and executed tens of millions of innocent human beings as a result of a false intellectual doctrine with no individual rights, no incentive to work, no method to create commonweal, no rational way to allocate resources. Still, our schools have convinced our youth that Socialism is as good as the Economic Freedom that has enabled them to live in incredible luxury, in a country to which hundreds of millions of people from around the globe dream of immigrating.

If you truly love your fellow man you want what is best for him. There is not a single socialist country that has ever made its economy better or its people freer. Cuba was the second richest country in the Spanish-speaking world when Socialism came and today only outranks Haiti in the poverty rankings in Latin America. America has lifted more people out of poverty with Capitalism, within our borders and around the world, than all the Socialists in history ever even PLANNED to do.

A Socialist desires enslavement to a State Master that controls his life, owns everything, dictates what everyone will do and when. He does not want economic freedom because he does not want the moral responsibility to develop his own abilities to provide for himself and his family.

The Socialist has a passion to see everything controlled by the Almighty State, which in his imagination is a benevolent god but in reality becomes a malevolent tyrant that micromanages the details of everyone’s life with all the blundering inefficiency, unintended consequences, and plain idiocy that has earned the word ‘bureaucrat’ its infamy – with the added bonus of utter ruthlessness.

The Socialist wants a daddy state to ensure his life is planned out for him. He is filled with envy to the point that his aim in life is to make sure no one has more of anything than he does. He is ruled by covetousness, which makes his goal the certainty that there is nothing anyone else has that he doesn’t have, even if his only option is to destroy what others have to fulfill this desire.

To achieve its utopian aims the Socialist State must be Totalitarian, which is why it is favored by godless people who want the state to be their god, endowed with absolute power, worthy of their worship, ruthlessly eliminating any who do not share its grand vision.

There is no point blaming the tragedies of Socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over other people is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called Slavery or Socialism or something else.


Socialists Want to Force Everyone Else to do what they want them to do

Now to a Leftist/Socialist the immediate answer is to MAKE companies pay more than the workers are really worth to them. If companies try to move to a different town, the Leftist says MAKE them stay. If they try to raise prices—which would negate the pay raises, of course—the Left would say MAKE them stop raising prices. If they go broke the Left would say, “That’s all right. The State should own all the businesses anyway.”

Once the Socialist State takes over people begin to realize that lousy workers are getting $15 an hour and great workers are getting $15 an hour and they all become lousy workers. Why not?

Productivity goes down and shortages ensue. The State then brings out the guns and says, “We will MAKE you work hard.”

It is all about making people do what they do not want to do. People naturally want to be FREE. And without Economic Freedom you are not free. In the end the Socialist State builds the first walls in human history not designed to keep invaders out but to keep its own citizens from fleeing. To MAKE them stay where they do not want to stay. 




You Can Only Level Down

What if I were to show you that Economic Freedom--Free Enterprise, if you will--causes the greatest prosperity for any society but inequality at the same time?

The only way to level everybody is to level down. You can cut down the tall poppies. You cannot make short poppies tall.

Just like if you line up 100 people at random to run a mile they would all hit the finish line at a different time, people are not equal in their capacity to make money by producing goods and services that other people want.

You cannot make the slower runners faster. If you want all runners to hit the finish line at the same time there is only one way to do it: slow down the faster runners. That is why all leveling schemes level down, which is why Socialist countries always do worse than free countries.

And all leveling schemes involve force; you have to force the faster runners to slow down because it is not their natural inclination not to run as fast as they can--if there is some prize, especially.

Obviously, if you told them all at the beginning that no matter how fast they try to run the State is going to force them to slow down so as to finish the race at the same time as the slowest runner in the pack, no one who is capable of running fast will even try to do so. And this happens in all socialist regimes: people stop trying to work hard because there is nothing in it for them to do so.

If I told you I would give you $100 to work for me for one day and you would get the $100 no matter if you slept and worked your ass off, most people would sleep. It is man's nature to get by with as little exertion as possible. This is a problem because wealth and prosperity do not come from thin air: they have to be created by the efforts of people. No effort, no wealth.

What about the poor?

Let us take a look at the Americans who are considered poor--the lowest 20%. The average 'poor' American has more living space--lives in a larger house or apartment--than does than the average Middle Class European. That’s average European, not poor European.

The major dietary problem facing poor Americans is eating too much, not too little; the majority of poor adults, like most Americans, are overweight. The average intake of protein, vitamins, and minerals by poor children is indistinguishable from children in the upper middle class and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms.

Poor boys today at ages 18 and 19 are actually taller and heavier than middle-class boys of similar age in the late 1950s and are a full one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier than American soldiers who charged the beaches at Normandy during World War Two.

38 percent of the persons whom the Census Bureau identifies as "poor" own their own homes. 62 percent of "poor" households own a car; 14 percent own two or more cars. Amongst the poorest Americans, virtually 100% have a refrigerator, 98% have a televisions, 65% have more than one TV, 98% have a stove, 81% a microwave, 78% live in Air Conditioning, 71% have a DVD player, 64% have cable, 62% own a washing machine, and the vast majority have a cell phone.

"Poor" Americans today are better housed, better fed, and own more property than did the "average" U.S. citizen throughout much of the 20th Century.

All Americans except bums qualify as one-percenters—compared to all the people in the world, half of whom live on $2 a day. If the movement to kill the goose who laid the golden egg - led by Bernie Sanders and AOC - is not based on envy and covetousness, I don't know what is.

An American family on welfare, with no members that work, has a higher standard of living than 98% of the people on this planet.

The Law of Unintended Consequences

Socialism destroys the morality of individual conduct—this is inevitable and undeniable. An ideology whose main promise is relief from personal responsibility cannot help but be anti-moral in its effect, however lofty its ideals. The personal obligation to remedy inequities as individuals is weakened. The state will set everything right.

Moral values, liberty, independence, truth, honesty, democracy, and individual autonomy—all are demoted under Socialism. The liberty of individuals, freedom of speech, and freedom of association—these are eliminated in favor of group rights. The moral sense is blunted instead of sharpened.

American students are taught that profit is immoral, and activities involving economic risk are disparaged, as if gains made by the few winners among risk takers—the prospect of which makes the risks worth taking—are deserving of moral opprobrium. To employ a hundred people is called exploitation, but to command a hundred people as a bureaucrat somehow honorable. Capitalists are despised if they win, and despised if they lose.

If the coercive power of the state decides the outcomes of persons, the only power worth having will be the power of the state.

You Can Have Economic Freedom or Democratic Socialism But Not Both

Economic Freedom is connected to a host of other benefits. Countries with higher levels of Economic Freedom enjoy higher GDP, lower levels of poverty, educational and technological advancement, cleaner natural environments, business dynamism and innovation, better health outcomes, longevity, and social progress.

But Socialism works directly against Economic Freedom, and therefore threatens each of these accompanying benefits. If America adopts Democratic Socialism, it will slash the economy by 40 percent—$24,000 per year for the average American—according to a report by the president’s Council of Economic Advisers.

It was American free market capitalism that raised the standard of living around the globe. The extraordinary level of material prosperity achieved by the capitalist system over the course of the last two hundred years is a matter of historical record.

FREEDOM!

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    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 hours ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ I appreciate your contributions to this conversation.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 hours ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ No, I am not aware that "Mercer owes millions to Uncle Sam, and won’t pay." I see that Renaissance Technologies, "a multibillion-dollar hedge fund built and owned by two of the biggest Democratic Party donors in recent years, billionaires James Simons and Henry Laufer," has a running dispute with the IRS, a very complicated case involving tax rule changes being applied retroactively (acording to the company). The tax dispute all comes from the Obama years, specifically starting in 2010.

      Mercer was CEO of the company and I see that "Simons was the fifth-largest donor in the 2016 election cycle, with Mercer coming in ninth and Laufer, 22nd," with Simons and Laufer giving to Democrats and Mercer to Republicans.

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      James A Watkins 

      7 hours ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ Now, I agree with you about Conscious Capitalism. I followed the link you kindly provided and the article is very good. In fact, Capitalism based on Christianity is what built this country. We do see now, particularly in godless Silicon Valley, Capitalism without Christianity and it is far less virtuous and far more troubling.

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      James A Watkins 

      7 hours ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ You wrote, "I see highway robbery of a nations wealth into the pockets of a few." This is what Karl Marx predicted, that in 20th century America all wealth would be owned by a few men. That has been proven wildly false. Over 20 million Americans own their own businesses. Nearly half of our 'poor' own their own homes. More than half of all Americans directly or indirectly own part of a major corporation. America has by far the most prosperity for the most people ever seen on earth.

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      James A Watkins 

      7 hours ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ I don't think you understand the story of Lazarus, but I am proud of you for at least being aware of its existence. The number one theme of the story is that Heaven and Hell are real places and once you go to one or the other it is permanent so if you reject Christ you will be lost for eternity.

      Secondarily, it is about being compassionate to the poor, but again you misuse the Bible when you claim this means governmental action - or that it is about borders. The rich man in the story, and the poor man, are individual human beings. This is about the heart of the rich man being cold as to help a single man who is right in front of him. Christians, rich and poor and in between, lead the world in caring for the poor and always have. To care for some needy person in Guatemala she doesn't have to move to Chicago. YOU can give time or money or food to her right where she is - and millions of American Christians do.

      Remember, Jesus could have easily told a story such as you want told: "Invite all the poor people in the world to move to your country and have your government confiscate all wealth and take over all charity." He didn't.

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      Brad Masters 

      2 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      NO

      You missed you find it.

      With all the lol from you and your brothers, I am tempted to call your group Chuckles!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Lol! I must have missed it. Can you copy and paste please?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad Masters 

      2 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Asked and answered, bye

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Once more.....where in the constitution does it say capitalism is the way to control the economy?

      Who made that up?

      Do you even know? Cause it’s way too easy to take advantage of at the expense of the good will of the people.

      Who said money decides fate?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad Masters 

      2 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      Meaningless off track dribble!

      Ranting with no point

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      You have no constitutional right to demand capitalism. Simple. If something has failed, try something better.

      Too many people are being hurt by the system we have, maybe take out the “crony”, and capitalism would work.

      But I’m really liking this idea of a universal basic income.

      Money is like manure. It’s no good unless you spread it around. That will make things grow.

      Handing it all to the top is stagnating society.

      And frankly, it’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

      “Here, you have 25 billion, have 5 billion more!”

      But where is it coming from?

      Those who earn $100,000 or less.......I mean, stupid on a stick! And cruel. And wasteful. How unconservative can you be?

      Face it, the robber barons have brainwashed you. You have bought their line of bull.

      You know Trump’s big benefactor Mercer owes millions to Uncle Sam, and won’t pay? That’s their reason for being. More more more, and they buy seats in gvt to make it so. Enter “I just made you a lot of money” Trump.

      It’s really pathetic, and nonsense anyway. You are the ones who love a system based on money, but don’t want to get the money to run it!

      What you want is total usery of the country and citizens of the US of A, imo.

      No!

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      Brad Masters 

      2 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      AOC and Bernie for starters.

      Capitalism is economics

      Capitalism vs Socialism Tejvan Pettinger October 28, 2017 The main difference between capitalism and socialism is the extent of government intervention in the economy.

      Do you really think the constitution is about economics.

      I don't know what your point is here?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Lucre/Lucifer.......see what some people worship?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Who said we were changing? I said we need to. To what? I don’t know.

      Now your turn. Where is capitalism mentioned anywhere in the founding of this America?

      How about a Labor party

      Abraham Lincoln: “Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

      Sounds good to me. Take that filthy lucre and ——-

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      Brad Masters 

      2 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Going to your link erased my comment, so now you get this again.

      "Why should America change from Capitalism to Socialism of any kind?"

      You didn't answer the question? And you don't seem to know what is socialism, read the article and answer my question instead of just diverting with your questions.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Please show me where capitalism is in the constitution, Bill of Rights, founding documents, etc.

      Our mandate is to form a more perfect union, establish justice and tranquility and provide liberty and justice for all. You see that?

      I see highway robbery of a nations wealth into the pockets of a few.

      We need a better way. Conscious capitalism, how about that?

      Here’s something else for you to ignore

      https://www.consciouscapitalism.org

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad Masters 

      2 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Why should America change from Capitalism to Socialism of any kind?

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Go for it. It’s what Trumplicans do. Cause they know better than EVERYONE

    • tsadjatko profile image

      2 days ago from now on

      Another ploy to drag us "down the rabbit hole"

      Resistance is imperative!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      3 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Your Bible is marked. Just like trump’s money.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      3 days ago from now on

      Brad, watch out! you are very near falling "down the rabbit hole!"

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad Masters 

      3 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      Obamites Clintonites sound really biblical and evil, but trumpettas sounds like angels.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      3 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Luke 16:19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ ”

      Donald Trump: “our country is closed.”.......which one u think he is in this parable?

      And we all know what a Christian is supposed to be.....none of u trumpettas even comes close.

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      3 days ago from now on

      Paula, he is so lame! He has no idea of who a Christian is!

      Neither circumcision not baptism makes a person a Christian!

      A true Christian is a person who has put faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ, including His death on the cross as payment for sins and His resurrection on the third day. John 1:12 tells us, “Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.”

      If Mr. Happy was a Christian he would have leaped at the opportunity to exalt the name of Christ and not make reference to circumcision which actually was a Jewish tradition or baptism which is not a requirement to be saved.

      Mr. Happy is only fooling himself or should I say making a fool of himself.... but what else is new?

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      Paula 

      3 days ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Dear Mr. Happy.....I am a softy and I do feel for you in this moment of severe self-embarrassment. It appears you are not feeling well these days, not to mention, unable to represent your title of "Mr. Happy." I'm sorry to see this.

      Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but did you actually offer to present proof of your circumcision & photos of your Baptism as proof you are a Christian? Thank you, but I'll pass on both, trust me.

      Alas, these tidbits of info, do not, in fact, prove your Christianity. All is not lost, Sir...for they do prove 1.) that your parents permitted your circumcision, hours after your birth and 2.) there was someone with a camera attending your Baptism. Great!

      Consider this my offering to you, without interest. You have a wonderful day in lovely Canada... Paula

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      Brad Masters 

      3 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Mr Happy

      I liked Toronto as a city, but I found that some of the people were just too against Americans.

      My comment about the bell and what to do when it rings is because you have commandeered this topic of politics into a bible study diversion.

      What do you know or what can you add to socialism?

      I know that this is not my article, but I would like to participate in its topic.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Thank you for your comments.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Mr. Happy ~ You wrote, "I have quoted numerous passages from the Bible in the last month and a half, on this blog and none of You pretenders want to talk about it."

      This only shows you are evil liar. I have talked about and explained EVERY Scripture you have mentioned.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Mr. Happy ~ Once again you take Scripture out of context because you have no desire to understand Scripture but only to amuse yourself by trying to trip up somebody else. It does not say a BANK cannot charge interest. It says YOU and ME as INDIVIDUALS ought not do it.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Mr. Happy ~ Mr. Happy ~ Your verse from Matthew 5:42 once again has NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT. You keep twisting the words of the Bible to make it fit the USSR version of government. Those versions of government are always ATHEIST. You cannot twist Jesus’ words to make them fit official atheism. Jesus is against Atheism.

      The verse you ask about simply means if someone begs something of me, which I can provide, and which I can see is for a good purpose; to feed, clothe or house his family, for instance, I should help him. It does not say, “Ye shall elect an Almighty State to confiscate all your wealth.”

      These instructions are about you and me as individuals – not about what we ought to make Caesar do.

      The verse you ask about warns us against being stingy and selfish. But all Scripture is to be taken in context. If someone asked me to loan them $1000 to buy a gun and kill someone, obviously no Christian should say, “Sure. Matthew 5:42!” If someone asked for $1000 to kill their baby I should not say yes. If someone asked to borrow $1000 to go to a titty bar I should not say yes. If someone asked me for $1000 for gasoline to burn down the local church I should not say yes. I should not give people money to obstruct the Gospel especially.

      In other words, a person must have and exercise common sense. It means that if you are my neighbor and I am well off and you are so poor you have nothing to eat and you ask me for a loan I should give it to you. Without interest. Even without expectation of being repaid.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Mr. Happy ~ I am not the least bit embarrassed by your ‘gotcha’ questions. I have long dealt with people who do not believe in the Holy Bible put scan it to pick a little verse and present it out of context. I explained what “where moth and rust corrupt” means perfectly well so you take my answer out of context. You simply do not understand Scripture because you do not believe in it.

      A wise man should give of his wisdom to the community, just as a rich man should give of his wealth. It is a sin not to serve when called. This does not mean by government coercion. No, what God has in mind is outside of human governments. It is not to be forced to serve others with your gifts, wisdom, or wealth; it is to do so under your own volition.

      Jesus never said that rich men would not get into heaven; nor did he ever imply that to be saved the rich must give away all their wealth. They only must be willing to give it up if God should ask it of them. In our hearts, we must love God more than we love our worldly treasures. “The LOVE of money is the root of all evil”; not the money itself. Of course, it is hard to be humble if you are rich, and far more temptations are available. Wealth provides so many pleasing benefits that if asked to surrender it for God, most people would say no. Therein lies the rub.

      The New Testament commands Christians to care for the poor, particularly widows and orphans; to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, shelter those without shelter, visit the sick and the prisoner AND tell them the GOOD NEWS—the GOSPEL. That is Christian Charity (love) and Christians have done an incredible job of it for nearly 2000 years. BUT nowhere in the Bible do you see it commanded that this be done by a State—by Caesar—by a government.

      There are 100 places where the Bible talks about the poor but not once is any government involvement mentioned ever. What government welfare is is counterfeit Christian Charity: it mimics Christian Charity except it leaves out the most important part—the Good News; the Gospel, which it has made “illegal.” One Trillion Dollars spent each year for the redistribution of wealth under a scheme that makes the Gospel against the law.

      If that trillion dollars remained in our pockets that could be one trillion dollars of Christian Charity that INCLUDES the message of Jesus—that is truly 'inclusive.' Instead of having a client dependent on the government teet for life perhaps the REAL problems underlying the incapability to take care of oneself in regard to physical needs—often a symptom of a spiritual disease—could be healed.

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      Brad Masters 

      3 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James

      Thanks for the info.

      I had another thought about Democrat Socialism of America, and I like the pic with the caption Stupid People should carry a sign to let others know they are stupid, and next pic illustrated it.

      DSOA

      Finally, let us get rid of this ridiculous labeling. Left, right, middle, liberal, conservative etc. How many times have these definitions meant something different. It is like using shortcuts in many job fields, it is only useful if both sides understand the same meaning.

      What defines people is not their label but their actions.

      Stupid is as stupid does pretty much sums it up:)

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Yes, Allah not only survived Mohammed but predated him by centuries.

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      Mr. Happy 

      5 days ago from Toronto, Canada

      Well, a Christian can surely discuss passages from the Bible, would that not be correct to say? And none of You imposters can talk about these passages. I have quoted numerous passages from the Bible in the last month and a half, on this blog and none of You pretenders want to talk about it. It is You who is diverting from the Bible passages asking me if I am Christian. Do You want to come check to see if I am circumcised? Or, would You like to see photographs from my Baptism?

      No, You do not. You just want to throw-out anything that might stick to the wall and prevent an actual discussion based on Bible passages, on how our societies work. You should be ashamed of yourself. Stop hiding! Stop diverting from the quotes I am putting out:

      "5:42 "Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one that wants to borrow from you (without interest)"

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      5 days ago from now on

      So you can’t answer a simple question ? You have to ignore it and change the subject?

      Obviously you don’t even know what a Christian is so you avoid answering - no Christian would ever do that because it is an opportunity to lift up Christ’s name which is the last thing Satan wants you to do. I am sure he is pleased with your behavior.

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      Mr. Happy 

      5 days ago from Toronto, Canada

      Ohh, look at that, we got contestents. So, Mr. Brad, wanna take a shot at it? T., how about You? Come on, You consider yourself Christians so what does this mean and how is this manifested in our world today. Are we following what the Bible says when banksters are robbing people through usury?

      "5:42 "Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one that wants to borrow from you (without interest)".

      Ring ring LOL

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      7 days ago from now on

      Yeah, just as I suspected, you aren’t a misguided Christian, you aren’t even a Christian.

      Do you even know what makes a person a Christian? Please tell me what you think makes a person a christian?

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      7 days ago from now on

      Really Mr. Hilarious? and what is the name of the Christian Church you belong to?

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      Brad Masters 

      7 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Mr Happy

      When the bell rings, go home.

      ring ring

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      Mr. Happy 

      7 days ago from Toronto, Canada

      5:42 "Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one that wants to borrow from you (without interest)". - You don't want to touch this with a ten foot pole, huh? Haha!!

      Hey, by the way, do You have a spinal cord, or are You part of the invertebrates?

      "It means everything in this Cosmos is subject to decay and loss" - No! It means You do not stack possesions in this life-time. It means You do not chase money, or stack bank accounts. It means You do not invest in jewlery, or antiquities, or paintings, or collections of cars, or cards, or anything else.

      Man, I told You I don't beat around the bush. This is getting emberrasing for You though, not wanting to talk about passages from the Bible. Of course You do not because You benefit from the rotten status-quo. Why rock the boat? Keep on truckin' boys! Don't talk about greed. Don't talk about usury. Don't talk about gluttony. Don't talk about the rich stacking wealth while children go hungry and people who work full time do not make enough money to be able to make ends-meet so, they have to use food stamps.

      I'm done and You stop pretending that You're Christian! You're not. You give a bad name to Christianity.

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      Brad Masters 

      9 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James

      I didn't know that. Allah survived Mohammad. interesting.

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      James A Watkins 

      9 days ago from Chicago

      T ~ Be nice.

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      James A Watkins 

      9 days ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Before Islam the Arabs were pagans who worshiped a moon god originally named Sin but later known as Allah.

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      11 days ago from now on

      "And tsad, I’ve been told that I enjoy killing babies, hate America and hate Jews......I don’t owe anyone who says things like that any respect"~Leslie

      I'm sorry Leslie.

      I guess I missed it when you said you are against murdering babies in the womb of their mother and

      you love America and want to make it great

      and you love Jews, some of your best friends are jews I guess?

      My bad.

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      Brad Masters 

      11 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James

      Thanks for that answer, and it made me think what did they have before they chose Islam?

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      James A Watkins 

      11 days ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Oh yes, I do believe there are tens of millions of 'moderate' Muslims. I think some Americans go to it because they have been stripped of anything to believe in except politics.

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      Brad Masters 

      12 days ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James thanks for information.

      PEACE TO A MUSLIM MEANS A WORLD WITHOUT INFIDELS!

      That is what we see from their actions.

      Do you think that there is a faction of Muslims that truly believe they can coexist with other religions?

      What do you think it is that draws Americans into switching to Islam Do they see something that the rest of us missed?

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      James A Watkins 

      12 days ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Islamic terror is as old as Islam itself, as old as Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, who said: "I have been made victorious through terror."

      Some Islamist leaders spent all their time killing and torturing people and taking woman and children as slaves, both sex slaves and house slaves.

      The magnitude of the killing (millions died) in places such as North Africa and the Asian subcontinent, or the number of churches, shrines, temples of the non-believers destroyed and replaced with mosques is uncountable.

      Muslim conquerors were positively steeped in violence and bloodshed – stacking the heads of their enemies high and raping all of their women, executing hundreds of thousands, and far more than can be accurately counted.

      It is and was a movement of prodigious killing and torture and a movement built on terror. Islamist conquest was rivaled only by communism in the number of people annihilated and the civilizations destroyed, by terror, torture, oppression.

      To try to make a case for Islam as a religion of peace after reading what Islamists did for the last 1,400 years is nonsense. PEACE TO A MUSLIM MEANS A WORLD WITHOUT INFIDELS!

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      Brad Masters 

      2 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James

      I agree that is the goal of Islam and they are trying real hard even today to do it.

      I remembered something about how to protect Islam, Mohammad put in some teeth into the Koran to sort of militarize it? Many it is just a bad memory.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      You are quite welcome, Leslie McCowen.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ The purpose of Islam was to destroy Christianity. Now some people like to say that the Christian God, who is YHWH (Jehovah), is the same god as Allah but this is false. Firstly, Allah teaches that Jesus is not the Son of God, thereby contradicting the Creator God of the Holy Bible flat out. Allah teaches that Jesus was just another in a long line of prophets and that Mohammed is greater than Him. Allah teaches that Jesus not only did not die for our sins but did not die on the cross at all, an imposter took his place. The Koran teaches that Allah is not a father and has no son.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Oh, thank you for that, James. That is nice of you to say.

      And tsad, I’ve been told that I enjoy killing babies, hate America and hate Jews......I don’t owe anyone who says things like that any respect.

      They certainly show me none. Don’t know why you think they deserve it back.

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      Brad Masters 

      2 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James

      This is all information, I never knew so thank you for the enlightenment.

      It was my understanding that the Koran and Mohammad were built to follow on Jesus. That is Jesus was believed to be a prophet, but not the prophet. That prophet was Mohammad, and I think kind of odd that a prophet would not know that when he died without naming a successor that his followers would kill each other because they chose different leaders. The killing continues today, and it has been around since Mohammad died.

      If Islam can't agree on which path they should follow, then how are they going to become the single religion of the world. Isn't that their goal?

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ Jerusalem appears 622 times in the Hebrew Bible and 155 in the Christian New Testament but is never mentioned in the Koran. The Romans renamed Israel ‘Palestine’ after the ancient people who had lived there called Philistines, who were not Arabs but Greeks. There has never been a country on Earth named Palestine; it was a name like ‘Midwest,’ a name of an region not a nation. The area was ruled by Jews, Greeks, Romans, Christians, Arabs, Christians, Egyptians, Turks, and Christians before the Jews established Israel again in 1948, when 50 nationalities with as many languages inhabited the land, including 38,000 Christians—but none were called Palestinians. Arabs had never named this land and had not governed it the previous 800 years. There were no people on Earth known as Palestinians until the 1940s.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ Yes, as you said so well, "The irony of the left is they will quote scripture without ever really studying it or understanding it or seeking a Christian view of it from a devout Christian who has read and studied the Bible...why is that? Because they aren't seeking truth, they are filtering everything in their life through the the filter of their "ideology"."

      Every worldview includes morality based upon it, and every moral code must have a worldview to support it. It was only out of Christianity that the concepts of equality for women, religious freedom, political freedom, and individual liberty sprang forth. It was the Christian faith alone that begat most of the world's technological and scientific advances, because among worldviews only it taught personal development, industry, and free enterprise.

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      2 weeks ago from now on

      I know I'm going to be sorry for this but...Leslie, the only thing you have against Israel is that Israel is occupying the land the Palestinians claim belongs to them?

      Other than that I assume you speak of jews as fondly as you'd speak of any other group of people? Ummm, say maybe with the same respect you have for conservatives, or capitalists, or policemen?

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      2 weeks ago from now on

      Well said James but to a communist everything means be a communist.

      The irony of the left is they will quote scripture without ever really studying it or understanding it or seeking a Christian view of it from a devout Christian who has read and studied the Bible...why is that? Because they aren't seeking truth, they are filtering everything in their life through the the filter of their "ideology".

      The irony is, Marxism renounces religion, not because of religious doctrine, but because of the actions of "religious" men. No one could accuse a religion such as Christianity of evil doctrine. But, as the Bible explains men are naturally evil, tainted by the original sin. But to a leftist all of what I just said is filtered out, they can't receive it.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ I am sorry you have had such a hard time.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      Mr. Happy ~ It means everything in this Cosmos is subject to decay and loss whilst our eternal rewards are, well, eternal.

      It does not mean, "Be a Communist."

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I defended Palestinians against Israel’s occupation, and a guy who worked here had recently converted to Judaism. He constantly accused me of being an anti semite.

      He and a few of like minds had me banned, imo. I can name names but won’t. At least that is my version of events.

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 weeks ago from Toronto, Canada

      "You act like I don't know what that means. You make it out to be mysterious when it is plain as day. I understood that verse when I was five years old." - Okay, we are getting somewhere. So, please do me a big, huge favor and explain to me what that means? Maybe I am understanding it all wrong. You can even go to Matthew 5:42 "Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one that wants to borrow from you (without interest)". Explain these lines to me as well please. "Without interest"!?!?! Hear that?! Is that clear now that all banksters are practicing usury? And again, nothing to hear on that from all these faithful people who I encounter. This, this is what is so bloody frustrating! Belittle the poor, call them lazy, do anything we can to ignore them and demean them but when it comes to greed, usury, gluttuny we say nothing about those. Come on man ... I don't beat around the bush. I'll come by again to read your future article on greed and usury. I can't wait - being honest here. All the best!

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ Thank you for kindly providing a link to that video. It is very interesting.

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      3 weeks ago from now on

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ I have never been a regular on the forums. I've looked a round in there a little here and there. May I ask, what did you have to say to get a lifetime ban?

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      Lol! Talk about a phony! You NEVER answer one question!

      b:

      I answered them all, except one. I have never been banned on the forums. I don't do forums, so I have never been banned on forums.

      When you run out of answers to my question, you attack, name call, and try to be righteous. Sad!

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      Bye Brad. You take and never give. I see why trumps your man. Death of USA.

      B:

      How many times have I asked the one simple question Democrat Socialism.

      I even answered your Kushner question.

      When did you first realize you didn't like Trump?

      You don't have to answer.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Lol! Talk about a phony! You NEVER answer one question! Bye Brad. You take and never give. I see why trumps your man. Death of USA.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      More distractions

      "Ask them. Im sure youve gotten an email telling you who not to associate with...me being one of them. And are u banned? U never answered.

      B:

      I don't read emails on hubpages.

      You didn't mention why the ones I listed are still on the forums. Take JE he is the new AP.

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      Im not interested in democratic socialism, im a liberal.

      B:

      Then why do you like AOC, if you don't know what she stands for in congress.

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      Ask the sanders supports here, im not one of them.

      B:

      He and AOC have the same political ideology.

      Democrat Socialism?

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      And AOC is great in congress. Shes asking questions no one else dares. And she gets to the bottom of things.

      B:

      Do you know what she is doing, what is her goal?

      Democrat Socialism?

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      Did u know there is only $57,000 in the health emergency fund for the whole USA? Thats unacceptab!

      B:

      Congress Ends Spat, Agrees To Fund $1.1 Billion To ... - NPR

      [Search domain www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/28/495806979/congress-ends-spat-over-zika-funding-approves-1-1-billion] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/...

      Sep 28, 2016 · The deal is part of a broader agreement to continue to fund the government after the ... with what all sides agree is a public health emergency. The delay came out because of disagreement over ...

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      We spend 3 million each time Trump golfs.

      B:

      How much did we spend when Obama golfed?

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      I like her. I want Pelosi in charge, but i like her.

      B:

      Why do you like AOC? And why do you want Pelosi in Charge?

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      Your turn:

      B:

      You have to be kidding, you didn't finish your turn.

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      What is Kushner doing with a security clearance?"

      B:

      Why did Comey and the rest of those government officials that got fired, resigned or left the government? Why did Hillary Clinton have a security clearance when she left the government. And did she lose it now?

      Why do they need a security clearance?

      Do you and the left have any idea what is the power of the US president? He is the third branch of the US government.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Ask them. Im sure youve gotten an email telling you who not to associate with...me being one of them. And are u banned? U never answered.

      Im not interested in democratic socialism, im a liberal.

      Ask the sanders supports here, im not one of them.

      And AOC is great in congress. Shes asking questions no one else dares. And she gets to the bottom of things.

      Did u know there is only $57,000 in the health emergency fund for the whole USA? Thats unacceptab! We spend 3 million each time Trump golfs.

      I like her. I want Pelosi in charge, but i like her.

      Your turn:

      What is Kushner doing with a security clearance?

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Are you banned from forums? I am. For life! I dont see AP since 2 nutjobs sent him "on a vacation", and another lib just got a 3 month ban. Meanwhile, the trump ladies insult with a fury and nothing. Its rigged.

      B: AP the shouter, and how did the two "nut jobs" do that?

      I just looked and IB, JE, C2, SB and some others are still on the political forums.

      But hubbers on the left are getting hubber scores in the 90s without writing any hubs. This is hubpages, and you get a 90 without writing hubs?

      Now that we got that out of the way. What is democrat socialism? And what is AOC doing in congress?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Are you banned from forums? I am. For life! I dont see AP since 2 nutjobs sent him "on a vacation", and another lib just got a 3 month ban. Meanwhile, the trump ladies insult with a fury and nothing. Its rigged.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      I am not waving any flag.

      B: You don't know the answer to what is Democrat Socialism? and yet, your keep waving its flag. Do you even support the American Flag, we know you don't support the president?

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      I asked YOU what problem you have with Cortez. when all shes asking is tax money for her agenda....which is what they all do!

      B: "All Cortez wants to do is use tax monies to pay for things. So what is your beef?"

      B: Does this answer my question? "For Things"

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      And i am still watching and listening to the dems....and if Weld or Kasich steps in i will listen to them, too. So far, the closest to my heart is Liz Warren, tho i dont think she has mass appeal. I also like Castro, but ditto. Im leaning towards Harris, because i think she has "it". She is more of a politician type....talks the talk. But im serious when i say i like Bill Weld. He may be past his time, but i love that hes not afraid of Trump, like the rest of the repubs are.

      B: Leslie thanks for answering that question.

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      Its way too early to know.

      At least we have choice. You have Trump.

      B: When you already have the best, there is no need for a choice.

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      B: Here are some hints for you to answer my question about what is Democrat Socialism. AOC says she is a Democrat Socialist and that is different then a Socialist? What is the difference?

      Democracy is government Run by the People

      Socialism is government running the People

      Democrat Socialism =?

      bradmasterOCcal profile image

      As far as banning liberals, I have a hubber score of 31 and your hubber score is double mine and I have 176 hubs?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I am not waving any flag. I asked YOU what problem you have with Cortez. when all shes asking is tax money for her agenda....which is what they all do!

      And i am still watching and listening to the dems....and if Weld or Kasich steps in i will listen to them, too.

      So far, the closest to my heart is Liz Warren, tho i dont think she has mass appeal. I also like Castro, but ditto.

      Im leaning towards Harris, because i think she has "it".

      She is more of a politician type....talks the talk.

      But im serious when i say i like Bill Weld. He may be past his time, but i love that hes not afraid of Trump, like the rest of the repubs are.

      Its way too early to know.

      At least we have choice. You have Trump.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      You seem to have trouble staying on topic, much less making any coherent points.

      You don't know the answer to what is Democrat Socialism? and yet, your keep waving its flag. Do you even support the American Flag, we know you don't support the president?

      Who do you believe in the democrat candidates for 2020 has the same belief you have in how to run the country? This is a political question!

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      4 weeks ago

      In one ear and out the other as if there is nothing inbetween, James. Nothing anyone says will penetrate her delusions.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Uh huh. I guess you never read comments from so called christians like yourself. Puts beelzebub to shame.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ Preaching what you don't practice is exactly what you are doing. Every day trotting out the Bible on people even though you do not believe it is the truth and you do not practice its precepts or believe them valid. The only person I have seen expressing hate here is you. I certainly don't hate anybody. Your Socialism is a Hate Crime. It only enslaved one billion innocent people and killed 100 million. Not much could be more hateful than that, Beelzebub.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Nope. I don’t preach what I dont practice.....unlike so many I see here. Honestly, I find some of the behaviors here to be blasphemy. Masking hate as love.....is a dangerous thing.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Is Jesus your Savior, Leslie?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Really? I count 5 or 6 rightwingers to 2 libs.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ LOL. They ban liberals in the HP Forums? I went into one the other day and there was nobody in their except socialists.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Profit is fine unless you’re greedy. And who puts a check on that? Capitalists want zero checks.

      Pollution is a problem in all isms. And it’s lead by greed. Because Tesla discovered free energy decades ago. But there’s no money in that.

      Just wait. Once the greedy capitalists get their paws in green energy, they will exploit it to the maximum, just as they do fossil fuels.

      And I disagree that profit is the great motivator. And so does your lord and savior Jesus Christ. You people kill me with ignoring all his words!

      Read the Bible. Read the Constitution. Capitalism is not mentioned once. Nor is religious rule.

      The most imortant attributes are honesty and integrity. And the motivator is supposed to be love.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ What AOC and Bernie Sanders want is for the government to control every nook and cranny of our lives. There is a word for that: TOTALITARIANISM.

      And you're snide remark that Republicans or Capitalists don't care about quality or services is just plain ignorant. Anyone who must make a profit must care about quality of goods and services. Otherwise, no one will patronize their business. Do you think a socialist bureaucrat has concerns about quality? ROFLMAO

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ You made a great point when you said If we already have Socialism why are Bernie Sanders and AOC saying we need it? LOL

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      One last thing, Leslie, if you knew history you would know that Socialist countries have been the worst polluters in history.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      And another thing Leslie McCowen, One of the most misguided ideas I see making the rounds of the Internet is that a company which makes no profit or a very slim profit is good and a company that makes a big profit is bad. That is the opposite of the truth.

      If you make no profit there can be no raises or new people hired or new products developed or other companies paid on time that have provided services or goods.

      Profit is the greatest motivator in human history. Without it, very little happens. The more profit the better. I know this goes against Karl Marx but he is wrong.

      I had a $53 million a year aviation company with 150 employees and I can tell you that if we made no profit—we had not performed our duties well. The more profit we made the better we had managed all of our resources.

      Profit is the best gauge of a job well done. If you lose money you are wasting valuable resources that would be better used elsewhere by people who know what they are doing.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ I cannot believe you trotted out the dumb old "police, fire, military, roads, bridges, national parks, air traffic control, court system" are Socialism. The standard definition of Socialism is "Government ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods, services, and jobs, central planning collectivism." Socialism was invented in the 19th century. There were roads, and bridges, and militaries for millennia before that. The United States had most of those things in the 19th century under laissez faire capitalism. You make yourself look stupid when you say such things.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yeah, you probly didnt. But many of your co- trump supporters do.

      He’s Cyrus and Esther all rolled into one.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Leslie McCowen ~ I don't think I said "Trump was sent by God." He might have been. I don't know.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Thank you Brad Masters for all you said. I am back to publishing articles on HubPages now. I've been kicking one out every few days.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      Here are some hints for you to answer my question about what is Democrat Socialism.

      Democracy is government Run by the People

      Socialism is government running the People

      Democrat Socialism =?

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      I have been talking to myself when I ask you question, and you give me a monologue. "All Cortez wants to do is use tax monies to pay for things. So what is your beef?"

      B: Does this answer my question? "For Things"

      It appears that you don't know the answer to my question, and then you blame me because I asked you again for the answer.

      I don't do forums, and i have no idea what is going on in the forums. As far as banning liberals, I have a hubber score of 31.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Ok brad. Bullhockey. Go talk to yourself, it’s the only thing that will satisfy you.

      It’s not that bad, I do it all the time. They tend to ban liberals around here, as you can tell by the forums.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      This is what I asked you.

      "Why do we need or want socialism and especially democrat socialism in the US today?"

      Then I answered what your response was in detail, and then you respond with what? Another diversion.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Erm, if we pay for all these things with taxes, what are YOU complaining about?

      All Cortez wants to do is use tax monies to pay for things. So what is your beef?

      Do you know, i worked with a kid from Russia many years ago. He said they have free university and private university both. To qualify for free, you must pass many tests.

      For private, you just need money.

      This is what they are proposing....the public option we should have had all along. With anything. We all pay taxes. We all deserve services. You want different? Go buy it. That’s democratic socialism.

      What Repubs want is to privatize everything. In other words, just have a different administrator of services. But one who is out for money, not care, or quality of services. That’s capitalism.

      We need a mix of both, have always had a mix of both, and the stupid fearmongering about socialism is just a crock to squeeze more money out of people by charging them more for less.

      Don’t forget we are here to form a more perfect union, not make the robber barons rich.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      "We already have it. Its called the public good. Public schools, EPA, NIH, police, fire, military, housing, social security, medicaide, roads, bridges, national parks, air traffic control, court system, etc etc etcccccccc.

      B: Then if that is true, what are Bernie Sanders and AOC talking about?

      Aren't all of those things you mentioned paid for with taxes from people that pay taxes. Social Security and Medicare are not freebies the people that get those benefits pay into it.

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      Nobody makes it on their own, they just profit off others.

      B: I don't know what you mean? Who is "own" and who is "they".

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      The fact we own things like homes and cars does not negate the roads we use are communal....

      B: Those roads were paid for by taxes, and many roads in the country are toll roads, you pay to use them. And they are maintained from the taxes we pay on gasoline, and vehicle registration.

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      .the land is apportioned for the many.

      B: Who is apportioning the land, and who are the many? People buy land and buildings, and they pay taxes on it.

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      As is the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.

      B: How does that play in socialism compared to what is capitalism?

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      If we werent social minded, we'd end up eating, drinking and breathing sludge, cause it's more profitable for the owners. I/e Flint, MI.,

      B: You got me again? I just mentioned that people pay taxes for all that and that is not socialism. Do you have a definition of your socialism that we can apply here?

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      Cigarettes, and now opioids.

      B: There are taxes on cigarettes, and drugs that are legal? Tell us what you meant?

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      As the motto states, e pluribus unom, or as Stevie Nicks sang, "you need someone lookin after you""

      B: Both "In God We Trust" and "E Pluribus Unum" are firmly embedded in Americans' consciousness primarily because of their long, regular use on the nation's money.

      Never codified by law, E pluribus unum was considered a de facto motto of the United States until 1956 when the United States Congress passed an act (H. J. Resolution 396), adopting "In God We Trust" as the official motto.

      E Pluribus Unum" is Latin for "One from many" or "One from many parts." It refers to the welding of a single federal state from a group of individual political units -- originally colonies and now states.

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      Thanks

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      We already have it. Its called the public good. Public schools, EPA, NIH, police, fire, military, housing, social security, medicaide, roads, bridges, national parks, air traffic control, court system, etc etc etcccccccc.

      Nobody makes it on their own, they just profit off others.

      The fact we own things like homes and cars does not negate the roads we use are communal.....the land is apportioned for the many. As is the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat.

      If we werent social minded, we'd end up eating, drinking and breathing sludge, cause it's more profitable for the owners. I/e Flint, MI.,

      Cigarettes, and now opioids.

      As the motto states, e pluribus unom, or as Stevie Nicks sang, "you need someone lookin after you"

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      Leslie

      Why do we need or want socialism and especially democrat socialism in the US today?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 weeks ago from Cape Cod, USA

      You prove my point. Anyone who thinks trump is sent by god has no ability to discern god.

      Simple.

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      Brad Masters 

      4 weeks ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD

      James

      Keep you articles coming. BTW, you know when people say that a picture is worth a thousand words, well the cows in your article's picture is a perfect example.

      Even Russia eventually got the picture when they took socialism out of CCCP and replaced it with Capitalism in the current Russia. Sanders, and AOC want the USA to become a new CCCP or USSA.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Thank you very much for taking the time to read another one of my articles. I really appreciate that, as well as your commentary, and your kind compliments.

      As I note in my second paragraph, the New Socialists add "the word 'Democratic' to their name to distance themselves from the Socialists who murdered 100 million people." But, as I relate, their own manifesto is virtually identical to regular old every day Socialism.

      I think BREXIT was an awesome move but the EU is telling the Brits: You cannot leave, especially without us severely punishing you for breaking up with us. Passive aggressive. They are afraid more countries will follow.

      The only reason the young are for Socialism is they do not know what it is, having been thoroughly brainwashed by our socialist schools. Very few can explain what it is and those who do nearly always demonstrate they do not know what they are talking about.

      The Manifesto of the Democratic Socialists of America I quoted in my article - they DO know exactly what it is and explained it perfectly. But the young haven't read it. Or they don't believe they mean it. Sort of like when Jihadists say "Death to America" young leftists first deny it wa said, "Oh they didn't say that." If you show them video of them chanting it, they say, "Oh, they don't mean it. They are just saying that. If we hug them they will love us back."

      I think the 16th Amendment and the Federal Reserve Act were both horrible, as was the Withholding Act of 1943. I would favor your idea of a National Sales Tax.

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