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Democratic Web site mocks Christianity

Updated on September 21, 2009

Christian Fish or Ichthys Images © Sue Chastain

For aproximately 18 months, I was a member of the Lansing State Journal's Community Advisory Board in Lansing, Michgian. There were 18 people on this board and I was THE only conservative Christian on the board. There were other conservatives, but I was the only board member who wrote about my faith as well as topics of our own choosing. NO topic was off limits. So I expressed my faith in a very liberally biased newspaper to a predominantly liberal audience.

This was 2005-2006 and the article I'm reproducing below was written in 2005. I decided to republish here, even though Hubpages encourages writers to write content that hasn't been published anywhere else. I am doing so because of the recent well-written article written by James A. Watkins. Be sure to take a look at it - he makes numerous valid points and shines a light on those who disagree with a conservative, Judeao/Christian viewpoint.Be sure to check it out:

To the credit of this website, after this article appeared, the ads disappeared off of their website. But what i write about here and knowing what we know now about this current administration, shine the glaring light of truth on the Democrats or the left or the radicals who are in power now - and they do not like it. I was pummeled at our monthly meetings at the Lansing State Journal and later on I will write more about these very revealing meetings. I was almost literally spit on, I was called a racist (I'll produce that article later) not by one, but two people at the meeting. I was absolutely stunned. I spoke about my Christian faith and the faith of our president at the time, George W. Bush, and I was called a racist. I still to this moment can not figure out how any clear thinking person could call me a racist for proclaiming my love for Jesus Christ, but there you have it. How does one defend themselves against slander and lies? You can't really, although I did try especially at the time. I have found out however, that it is alright for the left or democrats to malign someone's religion or faith or even to make racist statements - as they did about Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice etc. They give themselves a pass. But disagree with them and you will be assaulted with any manner of slanderous, childish and patently false accusations.

About twenty years ago, the Lord gave me a very, very thick skin. I was literally delivered from feelings of inadequacy, low self-esteem and going in and out of depression. It was a miracle in my life that came after a fall-on-my-face disastrous culmination of things that had happened in my life. Most of which was brought on by myself and my own sin. So I lay down on my face before God and asked Him to take this mess from my life and I gave myself, heart, soul, mind and body to the Lord Jesus Christ at that moment. The result was nothing short of a miracle, and one of the things that happened was, I can honestly say, with the exception of those I love and are important to me in my life, I do not care what others think of me. It's nice to be liked, it's nice to get approval, but since that day I no longer lived for the approval of others. I lived for Christ and try to every day, and I have found this is far more fulfilling than trying to find validation from others.

A quick check today of this site and any random check of comments of any article it doesn't take long to find profanity and vitriolic banter usually aimed at personally attacks rather than a discussion about the issues. Some things never change I guess.

I share this below to shine a light on the party that is in office today. This a just a tiny view of one tiny segment admittedly. But reading this and reading James A. Watkins gives an even clearer view of who is in power of our government this day, September 21, 2009

Thursday, December 15, 2005


Published December 15, 2005

Lansing State Journal

Carol Van Drie: Hateful ads taint Democratic site

Early this fall, I came upon what is reportedly the largest Democratic blog on the Internet, democraticunderground .com.
In addition to the profanity-laden "Bush=Hitler" discourse and Internet links, an advertisement read:

"Fish Wars on Cars - On Your Car and in Their Face; Stick-on Emblems - Poke fun with chrome car emblems: Darwin Fish, Jeebus, Hooked Fish, Dead Fish, Fish 'n Chips, Gefilte, Pagan, Reality Bites, Shark, T-Rex enjoying a fish snack, etc. ... We also have bumper stickers and Bush Soap to remove W's scum ..."

Fish wars? In their face? Jeebus? Feeding Christians to animals? Poke fun?
It's "fun" to openly ridicule the Christian faith and the God Christians call Savior? Is "in their face" something that should be part of our educational curriculum? Should defacing a religious image be entertaining sport? I have a great sense of humor. In fact, the same site had an ad with a photo of Condi Rice kissing President Bush and the caption made me laugh.
But this isn't funny.

The "fish" referred to is the ancient universal symbol of Christian identity called the Ichthys. According to, the origin of the Ichthys is:

"... Christians (who were being ruthlessly persecuted, I note) in the early Roman Empire, ... protected their congregations by keeping their meetings secret. In order to point the way to ever-changing meeting places, they developed a symbol which adherents would readily recognize, and which they could scratch on rocks, walls and the like, in advance of a meeting."
A click on the ad link at revealed an even larger array of hateful, anti-Christian car emblems that ridicule the Ichthys symbol in various and imaginative ways.
There also was a Satanic pentagram for sale. Perhaps it's for those whose Christian-bashing car decoration collection was complete.

An ad promoting desecration of Christian religious symbols so brazenly and proudly displayed on a popular Democratic blog is troubling enough. What I find even more disturbing is apparently this ad is just fine for the people who visit this blog. Why was it up for even one day?

Do they have the right to display the ad? Yes.

Is it right? No.

The decent thing to do would have been for Democratic bloggers in droves to immediately demand the removal of the ad. How can the idea of trashing an important Christian symbol be cute or funny?

Jeebus? How does mocking what Christians believe to be the holy name of Jesus seem even remotely acceptable? Why is it OK to have one of these dreadful things displayed on a car? I've seen them all over.

Free speech? Yes. Moral? No.

Why is it not OK to do something like this about any other religion? Gee, let me reflect on this for a moment - perhaps because it isn't OK to do this about anyone's sacred and cherished beliefs? Do you think?

Would a swastika superimposed over a Star of David be acceptable? How about a big fat red circle and slash over the Crescent Moon of Islam?

I taught my children to respect every single individual on Earth. It's what the Bible teaches us. God doesn't look at anything except the heart (Romans 2:11, Hebrews 4:12, 13:1-2).

Who dreams up defacing or mocking any religious icon no less doing so by sticking it on their car? It should be unthinkable to anyone. I wonder, too, what are the adults regularly visiting this Web site teaching their children or teens? What type of example are those who use these offensive symbols on their cars setting?

Lady Liberty embodies tolerance and inclusiveness, not hate speech. Where is this spirit on


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      Carol 5 years ago from Michigan

      Internet - not sure what you're trying to say here.

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      James A Watkins 8 years ago from Chicago

      This is a powerful article and your original in 2005 was also. Christians are the only group in America is it still acceptable to bash or ridicule. And as you say, those on the left seem to think it just fine.

      Thank you for mentioning my article as your inspiration. That surprised me when I saw that in your work. I thank you for fearlessly telling it how it is.

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      breakfastpop 8 years ago

      Behavior like this is rooted in ignorance. Combating it is very difficult, but those who would malign others, because of race or religion deserve to be isolated and condemned for spreading hatred.

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      Sciantel 8 years ago

      Humm. Just more proof that Jesus Christ is the perfect truth that Satan is so set on destroying in our country.