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Federal Ammunition Ban?

Updated on March 16, 2009

It's Not a Tinfoil Hat Conspiracy!

Read the below from today's issue of the "Shooting Wire" from the National Shooting Sports Foundation, it's the official voice of the American firearm industry. The NSSF is saying what the JPFO said only a couple of days ago. Our Federal Government is trying to stop American citizens from purchasing ammunition and ammunition components by any means available and they are getting the job done! This is not a tinfoil hat conspiracy, it's a fact. Read the below from today's online edition of the Shooting Wire. What happened to Barack Obama's promise of a "Transparent Administration"? And...I do know that to some, ammo, firearms and the Second Amendment does not mean too much to you in the whole scheme of things as right now it does not affect you or your family at this point in time. But...if our Servants of the People are doing this to us behind the scenes, what else are they doing to curtail or eliminate our other unalienable Constitutional Rights at this point in time?



No Longer Just Paranoia

For months, anyone who's proffered the position that the Obama Administration was anti-gun has been dismissed as being a variety of things, from sore loser to rampant paranoid. Nonetheless, since assuming office, members of the Obama administration have steadily- and stealthily- moved against firearms and ammunition.

Their only public blunder was Attorney General Holder's saying the "assault weapons ban" needed to be reinstated. Quickly, House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi - no friend of gun owners - went on record as opposing Holder's suggestion. She went as far as to parrot the words of pro-gun groups, saying the government should enforce the laws on the books today, rather than introducing new laws.

At the same time, the State Department notified Canadian authorities of plans to issue an export ban on "military caliber ammunition" to Canada. That proposed action would prevent the sales of .223, .308 and other military calibers.

When Canadian authorities protested - and notified several members of the American media, the U.S. State Department suddenly went silent. But they quietly reinstated other rules and charges firearms exports-retroactively.

While it seemed they had been headed off on one proposal, they had actually drawn attention away from other actions. If you're into incrementalism, that translates as a win.

Anything passed brings the ultimate goal that much closer.

Last Friday, the anglers and hunters were notified that the National Park Service planned to make all lands under their control totally lead-free by 2010. No lead in ammo or fishing tackle.

As we report in today's Outdoor Wire, that decision has kicked off howls of protests - and questions about the NPS trying to usurp states' rights by issuing their unilateral decision with no prior notification. It's definitely not going to be a decision without some serious discussions. That still doesn't mean the NPS will back off on their decision.

All these things are racing along on parallel tracks. Now, many observers - and not just those on the pro-gun side of the discussion - believe the country is hurtling toward a confrontation.

The catalyst might be any one of several flashpoint issues, but both groups seem to believe a reckoning is unavoidable.

For months, I've gotten reports of everything from re-tasking of military heavy assault units for domestic violence scenarios to calls for "committees of correspondence" designed to spread news the way word was spread by citizens of the then-British colonies.

In each instance, I've discounted the reports as internet hysteria that has produced breathless notices of "the real-deal on the new assault weapon ban"- or references to HR45 - a gun registration bill that is a prime example of "eyewash legislation". It's purpose has already been achieved.

Part of that discounting has been due to the fact that hot-blooded rhetoric seems to run along with firearms ownership.

To the chagrin of industry officials, there's never a shortage of people willing to go on camera, get red-faced and spout "from my cold dead hands" phrases.

Admittedly, those people concern me, but more for their reinforcement of a negative stereotype to people who have no opinion one way or the other on firearms.

Today, however, a report that has nothing to do with rhetoric, hyperbole or rumor.

A very disturbing report that points to a very real assault on ammunition supplies.

The Department of Defense has issued a directive that bans the sale of military brass to ammunition re-manufacturers.

Without that brass, a very large dent is put into civilian ammunition supplies.

New Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service (DRMS) requirements call for the "mutilation of shell casings". Mutilation, incidentally, is the destruction of the property "to the extent that prevents its reuse or reconstruction".

Government officials will determine what constitutes "sufficient mutilation" but it's safe to say that it will no longer be suitable for remanufacturing.

The first word of this latest decision came over the weekend when Georgia Arms' Larry Haynie released a letter notifying him of the new requirement.

For a company with an order in for 30,000 pounds of expended military brass in .223, .308 and .50 BMG, that was not a pleasant notification.

Georgia Arms was remanufacturing more than one million rounds of .223 ammunition monthly; selling that ammo on the civilian market to resellers and to government agencies all over the country.

Tomorrow, Georgia Arms will start sending cancellation notices for .223 ammunition to law enforcement agencies across the United States. Haynie says he may have to layoff half of his sixty-person workforce.

A new welcome page posted on Georgia Arms' website ( says simply "Due to new government regulations concerning the purchase of surplus brass, we are removing sales of all 223 and all 308 until further notice."

From there, it directs visitors to the government website for contacting elected representatives.

All of us need to start contacting our elected representatives -and telling them, quite directly, that we're not going to put up with a move that not only curtails access to ammunition (nearly all .223 and .308 manufacturing capacity is tied up to satisfy the needs of the military) for civilians - but wastes taxpayers' money turning usable surplus into scrap metal.

Reducing the ammo brass to scrap reduces the value of the metal/surplus by nearly eighty percent. It also means that recast brass - in shippable form - may be shipped to China, one of the largest markets for U.S. metals on the world market.

If this is allowed to go unchallenged, anyone who owns a modern or traditional rifle in .223 or .308 calibers will see the impact- probably sooner than later.

"Anyone" in this context means everyone from recreational shooters to law enforcement trainers.

Pulling military brass out of the consumer supply chain means that all the manufacturing capacity being dedicated to meeting the military need will effectively become unavailable to civilians - forever.

Export rulings, lead bans, and brass mutilation orders from separate areas of the federal government look coincidental - on the surface. I'm not big on conspiracy theories - partially because I doubted the new administration would have gotten its collective act together so rapidly.

Seems I've been wrong on that one - and mistakenly using the word "hoard" when talking about the nearly-insatiable demand for ammunition that continues across the country. Today, laying up of ammunition might be better described as prudent preparation for possible problems.

States are beginning to serve notice to the federal government they will not enforce laws that violate individual rights. The federal government seems intent on creating a society with increasingly higher numbers of people dependent on the government for either sustenance or employment. Average citizens are beginning to grow tired of being asked to "tote the note" for others' irresponsibility.

These are, indeed, uncertain times.

Today, it's important that every reader take time to notify Congress that we - taxpayers - oppose this latest DOD move- and all the other not-so-subtle moves against gun owners.

You can contact your elected officials in Washington by going to this webpage and following the links to your respective Senator or Congressman.

One key member of the United States Senate is Montana's Senator Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. Baucus could make a call to the Pentagon and let them know their budgets might be reexamined if they don't reconsider this latest directive. At that point, the directive might labeled a "misunderstanding" and rescinded.

But it is important that we keep pressure on Congress.

If that means phone calls, e-mails, and letters, let's get that done. If that doesn't produce results, we need to look beyond symbolic gestures like sending tea bags or bringing hundreds of thousands of gun owners to Washington and state capitols to protest.

These are, indeed, uncertain times. But the time for uncertain actions may be passing.

We'll keep you posted. In the meantime, maintain situational awareness.

--Jim Shepherd

A gun without ammo is like a car without gas...It's useless. Is the War on Guns becoming a War on Ammo?

Without ammo, any firearm becomes a club...and a pretty poor one at that.
Without ammo, any firearm becomes a club...and a pretty poor one at that.


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      6 years ago

      Why cant the people who manufacture the ammo take a stand and reserve a majority of it for citizens creating a shortage for the military which would keep the government from destroying the re-loadable casings........

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      8 years ago

      I love my guns, however the individuals that say this starves the second amendment; a gun w/o ammo is a club and cold steel always works.

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      8 years ago

      One step closer to another civil war...I'm hating Odumbo more and more by the second.

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      k transa carranza 

      8 years ago

      i can see already an environment like the whole catalog of end of times movies hollywood has been preparing us for. DAMN JEWS!! imagine a mad max/the road -armageedon- type scenario where were all figting for survival. No guns, no food, no shelter and there we are everyone killing eachother for survival.!!!

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      9 years ago

      I dont see why your all complaining. its been happening for years they do not WANT you armed makes it easier to push people around if they only have sticks

      try watching the movie Endgame or Police state both are in google videos

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      Ross Wolf 

      9 years ago

      If lead bullets were outlawed, imagine how many gun owners might be arrested using lead bullets purchased previously. Compare: In 1994, the U.S. Justice Department under Attorney General Janet Reno proposed introducing legislation that would allow U.S. Government “summary forfeiture" of unregistered firearms. DOJ intended to eliminate government's high costs of forfeiture proceedings required to confiscate guns (by baring gun owners from being able to prove) their confiscated weapons were legally registered or did not come under the “technical definition” of a gun that must be registered. A Government ban on lead bullets would bring gun owners to the same place. Also in 1994 the Justice Dept proposed gun legislation that included the words “premises containing illegal weapons” written like drug asset forfeiture laws. In less than 24-hours gun owners expressed concern those words “premises containing illegal weapons” would open the door for DOJ to criminally and civilly forfeit gun owners’ homes since most gun owners kept guns at home. Had that legislation passed, it is foreseeable Americans would be afraid to own guns or keep them in their house.

      In 1994, a Congressman suggested forcing gun stores to sell only “biodegradable ammunition” with a 1-year shelf-life stating—in case of insurrection, ammunition accumulated by people would become useless within 1-year. Then someone pointed out, forcing biodegradable ammunition on the public would open the door for foreign black-market ammunition to be sold in the U.S. Obviously if Obama’s ban on lead bullets is approved, foreign black markets will develop in the U.S. for lead bullets; that will lead to police swat raids on homes for illegal bullets just like drug raids now out of control. It is foreseeable anyone caught with possession of lead bullets could lose their right to own a gun. Bullets made of any other metal could prove too expensive for most gun owners to purchase. It is obvious Obama by the backdoor—intends to disarm America taking Americans’ ammunition away.

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      10 years ago

      James, you're right on target, concerning ammo availabilty, no pun intended! I fear that the for sure to happen Healthcare government overhaul will actually makes things even worse for American gun owners as all personal privacy will just about be eliminated under new government rules. Those who own guns will be deemed to be engaging in very risky behavior, so guess what?...Gun owners will pay more for their so-called free mandatory insurance only available through the government.

      Right now ammunition for most rifle and shotguns is still available in sufficient quantities at most retailers, but try finding the used to be common handgun rounds of .380 .38 Special, 9mm, .45 acp and .357 Magnum. If you do find a few boxes of these handgun rounds, the price is out of this world. I would suggest to anyone right now is the time to start a home ammo cache' if you don't have one. A personal home ammo cache' should contain at least 2500 rounds at a minimum, for the guns that you have. Also, a few thousand to several thousand rounds of .22 LR rimfire is also a good thing to have in one's home ammo cache' as Jeff Cooper years ago predicted much of what is happening now and suggested gun owners keep the .22 LR stuff on hand for when times get really tough. Possibly .22LR could become "Ballistic Wampum" which could be used for barter, trade or as a last resort, a form of money, if our US dollar completely tanks. Anyway, by being aware of what is going on in the real world and not depending on the mainstream news media, you are more prepared than most who have their heads in the sand, James. Thanks for your insightful comments.

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      10 years ago

      Any ammo I can get my hands on is raising to a ridiculous price, no more buying a small box of ammo, in order to be able to afford to fire a gun you now have to fire in bulk...

      I'm beginning to think conspiratist are more sane than the rest of us.. at least they saw this coming whereas it's a blindside for a lot of us. I'm almost certain this will not subside and even though the focus is on ammo now who is to say they will not go further. Next thing you know they wil be asking what constitutes a gun and will be say we can own guns under our constitutional rights but are no longer allowed to own any rifle ammo or a trigger to a gun..

      The only reasoning I can see why they would want to ban assault ammo and not focus on handgun ammo (at least NOT YET) is if a national crisis were impending and martial law could be in effect. Ever stop to ask yourself if you m9 was a match for a automatic m4 if they were trying to confiscate your ammunition?? Call me paranoid, call me a conspiratist or whatever you like, but i'm figuring i'm being reasonable with the direction this torn country is heading!!!

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      Chris in New Hampshire 

      10 years ago

      How can an ammo-starved Second Amendment possibly defend it's bigger brother, The First Amendment?

      For the last nine months, I have not been able to find any .380 ammunition. Not at Wal-Mart. Not at the local dealer. Not online.

      What is going on with this new administration?


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