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George Zimmerman. An Open Letter From an Ordinary Citizen

Updated on July 24, 2019
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Learning to recognize the various challenges we face throughout life. When to walk forward through an open door.

George of the Neighborhood

I will lie like hell because the "other" guy can't talk.
I will lie like hell because the "other" guy can't talk.

Using my right to freedom of speech

Getting right to the point is an acceptable habit and usually an appreciated gesture. In this case, I don't feel a need to include an introduction nor do I feel compelled to provide an explanation as to why I'm writing to Mr. George Zimmerman.

If you've chosen to read this, it's safe to assume you know who he is due to the news stories that placed him in the headlines everywhere. You're aware of how his name, and the name of Trayvon Martin became household topics of discussion for quite some time, not too long ago.

I have not spoken publicly about this tragic event and may never have, had George Zimmerman not popped up once again in the headlines, due to yet another little newsworthy incident quite recently.

This being said, I share here with you an open letter written directly to George, stating my opinion of this tragic incident.

Some of George's favorite toys
Some of George's favorite toys

Yes George, I'm addressing YOU.

Dear George

At this point and time, you must have received tons of mail since the fatal shooting of young Trayvon Martin occurred. I refer to the shooting death of a teenage Florida man whose life you snuffed out. You shouldn't be surprised to receive yet another letter from someone feeling the need to communicate with you. I'm sure you've come to realize this sort of tragedy has a knack for following someone for a very long, long time. I mean, even a slight political controversy can maintain a life of it's own over decades. Surely this unnecessary death can be given the same attention of human interest.

Lest I forget my manners George, let me tell you who I am. Basically to you, I'm just an ordinary everyday human being who keeps up to date on local and National news via various media outlets. I read, listen and follow those stories I feel are of importance to me, as well as to the vast majority of the public in these current times. The George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin story was most surely one of these stories.

You see, George, I am also a mother to four adult sons, a law abiding citizen, and a retired but active woman. You are younger than my youngest son, George. I vividly recall when each of my sons were teens as Trayvon was. I could relate. Quite sadly, I could also feel my heart break into a thousand pieces for Trayvon's mother. Losing a child is the ultimate in unbearable pain, which lingers a lifetime.

When the shocking and lethal event took place and was first exposed via TV news, there wasn't much information and of course details were sketchy. Suffice it to say that it seemed like any other crime on the streets, between two individuals, with one being slightly injured and one pronounced dead at the scene. You, who had a gun,quite obviously were not the dead person. The dead person was Trayvon Martin. He was armed with a box of Skittles candies.

I can't imagine what was whirling wildly in your head at the precise moment you realized what you had done, nor what you said once law enforcement arrived on the scene. I wouldn't want to imagine.

You see George, when the strange and complex story began to unfold, exposing all it's various explanations and a few ear-witness depositions became public knowledge, I knew I needn't hear one more word.

Allow me to explain please. I won't bore you with ver batim statements by dozens of people, the time elements or results of the investigations. There was a continual stream of opinions and conjecture. I don't even need to discuss your arrest, trial or shocking verdict. It all may have made for in-depth reporting and allowed the public to be privy to all segments of the saga, but to me it was purely insignificant.

The victim was armed with a box of Skittles

A simple but hard core FACT

Please bear with me George, as I back up a bit. I understand that you were very active in your "Neighborhood Watch," group. This is commendable. All Communities should establish these watch groups as concerned citizens and responsible parents. It is always advisable to be alert and aware of any possibility of danger or potential crime that might occur in or around our homes. We have the right to feel safe and secure.

As I recall your version of how the evening went down, you were driving in your truck, on your way to the store, or were returning home from the store? Again,this is simply not important, wouldn't you agree?

At some point in your drive, you took notice of a young man walking in your neighborhood. A few things about this young man seemed to trouble you.You then stopped your truck to focus better. You did not recognize this young man as belonging in your neighborhood, he was not following the provided pathway or sidewalk and he was wearing a hoodie. You became immediately very suspicious and decided this young man was more than likely up to no good. You did not move your glare from this person. He wasn't making any noise, he hadn't been creeping around like a stalker or peeping Tom, nor did he break a window or cause any property damage. However George,you were sure he intended to do exactly this.

Because you had this terribly uneasy feeling about this young man, you did the right thing for your neighborhood and called the police. After all, there had been recent break-ins at one or two of your neighbors and you were justifiably concerned about this stranger in the hoodie. Well George, this is fine. This is what a member of the Neighborhood Watch group should do. Call law enforcement asap.

We came to learn this young male stranger in the hoodie walking between the buildings was Trayvon Martin. By the time you had made the call to the police, Trayvon had also noticed you, staring at him intently and following his every move. We cannot know what he may have been thinking, but even that is not important. You had been assured the police were on their way. You were specifically told by the dispatcher to remain in your vehicle and await the arrival of police.

However, as soon as Trayvon was beyond your sight, you were compelled to get out of your vehicle to track him and keep your visual on him. This is where you lost me, George. What part of the words, Neighborhood WATCH do you have difficulty in understanding? Perhaps you are deaf and did not hear what everyone else heard via audiotape from the Police Dispatcher who specifically warned you, "Do not get out of your vehicle!" Was that your problem George? You're deaf?

Let's try to imagine the very probable sequence of events had you simply remained in your truck, waiting for law enforcement to arrive. After all, you were safe and you had your phone. When law enforcement arrived, you could have given a description of Trayvon and point the police in the direction you last saw him walking away. This would have been simple and appropriate.


Allow me to help you figure this out. Had you taken heed of the dispatcher's instruction and remained in your vehicle, you and Trayvon would not have encountered one another. There would have been no confrontation, no conversation, no scuffle. Trayvon would have eventually wandered off to his father's home, which was his destination in the first place. You could have given the police a report and the evening would have simply concluded as most evenings do. You'd have dutifully fulfilled your Neighborhood Watch responsibility. Bravo, George.

Yes, these are the real facts of the matter. When you insisted upon stepping out of your vehicle, you clearly set the deadly scene in motion that led to the death of Trayvon, your subsequent arrest and the rest of this tragic,unforgivable travesty.

No, I don't want to know about your damned history. I most definitely do not want to hear of Trayvon's background nor adolescent transgressions. It's not at all important to know if his parents were divorced or what sort of marriage you and your wife had. Who the hell cares?

I need to know why you didn't simply keep your damned aspiring-cop ass in your truck. I demand to know why you pulled your gun against an unarmed young man who may or may NOT have attacked you as you claim. You see, I simply don't believe your tale about the struggle over your gun. I imagine what that tells you is you're lucky I wasn't a member of the jury. I could not and would not have agreed to let you completely off-the-hook for the murder of Trayvon.

Nonetheless, like the rest of the public, I felt this story had begun to fade away and that George Zimmerman was no longer a source of profile news. I didn't think about you one more moment.

The problem is, you kept popping up in the news. You had no clue what it means to count your blessings and lay low. You ignored the fact that it may have been advisable to tend to your self and family while maintaining a peaceful, law abiding life. Did the OJ saga teach you nothing??

We read of your DWI speeding and the nonsense story that went along with it. The police received a domestic disturbance call from your wife, who in fact, divorced you fairly soon after the trial. You had become violent and abusive. Another domestic 911 call, this time from a girlfriend, claiming physical abuse and broken glass. Tsk tsk, George. Can you not behave yourself?

It's claimed that you George, have serious anger issues. Anger issues yet you still not only own a gun, but carry it always. Since your trial you have used your temper while weilding your gun to intimidate. These are reported facts.

Then again, just last week, you were chased in your car and shot in the face by a man who allegedly had issues with you. There appeared to be several individuals who had issues with you. I haven't listened to the details on this latest fiasco. I don't care what it's about.

All I know is that incident is what prompted me to finally decide to write this letter to you.

Now you can put a match to my letter for all I care, George. You certainly have a habit of starting a number of damaging fires in your life. What are you all about George Zimmerman? You killed an innocent,unarmed young man. You shot him dead. Good God Man, face your demons.

© 2015 Paula

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  • fpherj48 profile imageAUTHOR

    Paula 

    3 days ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Mona...Thank you so much. I appreciate your visit and thoughtful comment.

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    Mona Sabalones Gonzalez 

    4 days ago from Philippines

    Paula, I appreciate this article very much. Here in the Philippines I watched the trial and thought it was ridiculous to believe a young boy could overpower a man who was being trained in mixed martial arts. Zimmerman has, as you say, anger management issues. It caused one death, and another man is now in prison because of him. Justice seems to be twisted in Zimmerman's case. Thank you for speaking out on this.

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    OK, Diane. Nice day to you too! :)

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 weeks ago from Fontana

    Paula, I promise not to come back to this article again. I'll see you and Randy on other discussions devoid of cognitive dissonance. Have a great day!

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Randy.......I have no intention of deleting comments that are civil. Thanks, Randy. I do feel further questions are futile, however, I truly do not want anyone to try to "explain" total inaccuracies. This is why It's best for me to end my own rebuttals. At a certain point, it becomes foolishness to help someone accept that 2 + 2 = 4. When one is blind & oblivious, it requires miracles to reach them. I don't do miracles. ~ Paula

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    Sorry Paula, any time a bully with a gun feels he's superior because of it, pisses me off. Delete my comments at your pleasure...

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    Mr. Shaw refuses to answer questions about his claims. For the 3rd time Todd, why did Treyvon attack Zimmerman? Your refusal to respond to my query will say it all...

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    T....Wes & Randy. I wrote this article more than 4 years ago. Obviously, there's been a sudden surge of interest in it. This is fine. I always appreciate visits & comments from my fellow-hubbers. However, it ends here.

    Much as I hate to say this, I'll not approve another comment which involves argument & vitriol with one another, on this particular hub.

    My letter to George Zimmerman is clear, well-researched & expresses my understanding and opinion on the entire matter.

    Wes, I could easily refute your total lack of genuine knowledge on this case, but I will not. Your obvious sincere take on this, speaks volumes to me of a Wesman I have not known and unfortunately, no longer care to communicate with. It's that simple.

    I suggested to you that we discuss it privately, but you rejected that and chose to carry on back & forth with Randy. That's a personal thing between the 2 of you. You may not use my thread to take your shots at someone you have a beef with. I'm sure you understand. Finally, you couldn't be more wrong about the Martin-Zimmerman case but however wrong you are, you are entitled to your biases.

    T...my evil twin chose to stay completely out of this....You have met her so I'm sure you know how good it is that she's not become involved. It's not my job to defend anyone's "character." It IS my job to recognize morons when I encounter them. You should know, though, Morons are not worth my time & energy.

    I think all of us realize that morons aren't worth our time..

    Y'all have a safe and enjoyable Labor Day week-end. Peace, Paula

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    Wesman Todd Shaw 

    3 weeks ago from Kaufman, Texas

    Mr. Godwin likes to presume he has some sort of authority over others. I've yet to see anything which indicates this imagined position of his.

    He also likes to presume he's got some sort of superior intellect. It's another case where I've yet to see something which indicates this is the case.

    And gosh dang, I've been around a while.

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    One more time Todd, why did the "linebacker"--apparently a high school position--attack an armed coward?

    And does one's age mean they cannot be murdered by someone harassing them? And you are the only poster who mentions a "12 year old".

    Inquiring minds and all that...

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    Wesman Todd Shaw 

    3 weeks ago from Kaufman, Texas

    LOL. I'm sure Randy is a real tough guy himself. And so so virtuous. He is in the same fantasy land where a 12 year old attacked George, but we know that's not what happened at all.

    Showing a photo of the seventeen year old completely breaks the spell of the false narrative that the innocent looking little twelve year old got killed by George Zimmerman.

    Oh hey, there was a trial too. Anyone remember the trial? I do. Zimmerman walked free, and they gave him his pistol back too. You know why? Because there was no crime.

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    So why did Treyvon attack Zimmerman, Todd? The Zim had no business patrolling the hood because he wasn't a NW member. at all. Sooner or later he was going to run into some one who would not put up with his crap. Zimmerman was lucky he got away with his cowardly life. You can bet if Trevon weighed 200+ lbs. the Zim would have scurried away like the coward he is.

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    Wesman Todd Shaw 

    3 weeks ago from Kaufman, Texas

    The photo in this article calling the thug the victim is completely dishonest. It's the same exact thing CNN and all the rest would do.

    A 12 year old didn't assault George Zimmerman, a 17 year old did. And so the use of photo of a 12 year old is completely dishonest. I'm sure Mr. Godwin, however, would disagree.

    But the fact remains. Trayvon was not 12 years old when he foolishly assaulted an armed man with a (LOL!) bag of skittles. The thug was SEVENTEEN years old, and didn't look anything at all like the TWELVE year old in the photo.

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    3 weeks ago from now on

    Paula, I’m looking for your twin sister to appear about now. Someone needs to defend the character of commenters on your article. I’m sure she doesn’t consider some of them moronic?

    Tell me if you disagree but I think anyone who would admittedly take the law into his own hands might likely be moronic.

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    Zimmerman was a cowardly bully who thought since he had a gun the kid would take crap from him. The kid didn't know him from Adam's housecat as shown by his conversations with his girlfriend. If he had been my child, Zimmerman would not be causing more trouble since that time.

    Many are just like him though, as you can tell from some of the moronic comments on this article. I'm pleased to the idiot who shot and killed a guy in an argument about a parking spot will do 35 years in Jail for his "stand your ground" defense. Serves him right!

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    Wesman Todd Shaw 

    3 weeks ago from Kaufman, Texas

    We live in a world where there are people who think any criticism of any black person is 'racist.' Because apparently, those people think black people are each and every one angelic individuals.

    FBI crime statistic, however, and every single day in Chicago, show this is certainly not the case.

    Yes, Trayvon the violent thug who attacked poor George was built like a linebacker. George was not so fortunate in the physique department.

    Luckily, here in the United States, we're allowed to have guns, so that if a linebacker physically assaults one of us without an NFL frame, we can dispense with them shortly, and go on to live the rest of our lives. Thank God for the 2nd Amendment.

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    3 weeks ago from now on

    My point to Wes saying he was like a linebacker is exactly what you just said, I didn’t say his reference was a racial slur but it was Diane who apparently felt it was a racial slur. I don’t believe Wes is racist and I don’t believe the whole situation had anything to do with race - it was two people falling prey to the bad performance of their underdeveloped brains.

    George attacked Travon with a gun in his hand? How do you know that?

    Anyway I’ve said George was totally responsible for what happened because he didn’t listen to the police when they told him to stay away - had he done what he was told no one would be dead or injured, the guy should be punished for acting like a teenager himself, self defense is no excuse, he was supposed to be an adult. An adult would have obeyed the police and let them handle it. I don’t know what more I can say.

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    As for you, T....!! OMG, the Mars-Venus, Male-Female---Right brain-Left Brain thing is in FULL swing. Your entire lesson on brain-maturation/growth and all that good stuff, was very nice of you to send, but of course, as Behavioral Science Major.....I could write the book, my friend. In any event.....Take this in slowly please: Wes's comment about a "Line backer" was said IN REFERENCE TO Trayvon's SIZE....POWER & MIGHT......He was in no way referring to Black or White. Get it?? This is why Wes also made a big damned deal about the fact that the photos in the media of Trayvon were of him a few years prior to the incident & in Wes's mind, because he's of the belief the whole thing was Trayvon's fault....he believes the MEDIA intentionally tried to portray Trayvon as a Little Boy rather than a strapping teen.......Which..IMHO, has absolutely NO bearing on a damned thing. But....Who am I? OK? You get it? For some crazy (MISINFORMED) reason, Wes seems to believe Trayvon ATTACKED George.....unprovoked like a predator....rather than the actual TRUTH, which is that Trayvon was defending himself from George's attack on him, with a damned gun in his hand!! I give up!

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Diane, honey.... No apology necessary from you. You said nothing wrong at all. I'm floored by your co-worker's very inappropriate comment! Diane, some people simply do not engage their brains or their manners before speaking!!

    Let me tell you a funny story.....Many years ago, my friend was visiting with her kids and our children began to play together. We were outside, so they kids (all BOYS) were getting sort of wild and boisterous. My friend spoke up and yelled..... ".BOYS!! settle down! You're behaving like WILD, CRAZY INDIANS!!" She immediately looked at me and her eyes were as big as saucers....LOL My boy's Dad is 100% Native American!...I of course, told her not to worry....I understood it was just an expression....but I can tell you, she never said it again!!

    We sometimes have to tolerate, Diane, What can I say?

    Peace to you....Paula

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    3 weeks ago from now on

    Linebackers aren’t all black. I never heard of “linebacker” being a racial slur. Actually it is a supreme compliment in sports! Takes exceptional speed, talent and strength to be a linebacker. More like superhuman, not subhuman.Color has nothing to do with it. I’d say close to half the greatest linebackers in history are white, just not a racist thing.

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 weeks ago from Fontana

    I'm sorry Paula. I dislike vitriolic exchanges also. The "lineback" think caught my eye and I just had to say something. Historically, we have been stereotyped as subhuman.

    A white co-worker describing a Samoan to me one day. After working with her, going to lunch, worksites, sharing laughs, etc., she felt comfortable in explaining, "I'm more afraid of them (Samoans) than Black people."

    There was no oops. She continued to talk not realizing what she had just said.

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    3 weeks ago from now on

    Hey Paula! Good letter to George (I call him the glimmer man)

    Having a degree in science my first reaction to this situation was not to find a reason to hate one or the other of the glimmer man or Travon but to consider the apparent state if their brain development.

    Children’s brains have a massive growth spurt when they’re very young. By the time they’re six, their brains are already about 90-95% of adult size. But the brain still needs a lot of remodelling before it can function as an adult brain.

    This brain remodelling happens intensively during adolescence, continuing into your child’s mid-20s.

    Some brain changes happen before puberty, and some continue long after. Brain change depends on age, experience and hormonal changes in puberty.

    The main change is that unused connections in the thinking and processing part of your child’s brain (called the grey matter) are ‘pruned’ away. At the same time, other connections are strengthened. This is the brain’s way of becoming more efficient, based on the ‘use it or lose it’ principle.

    This pruning process begins in the back of the brain. The front part of the brain, the prefrontal cortex, is remodelled last. The prefrontal cortex is the decision-making part of the brain, responsible for your child’s ability to plan and think about the consequences of actions, solve problems and control impulses. Changes in this part continue into early adulthood, well into your 20s.

    Because the prefrontal cortex is still developing, teenagers might rely on a part of the brain called the amygdala to make decisions and solve problems more than adults do. The amygdala is associated with emotions, impulses, aggression and instinctive behaviour.

    Have you noticed that sometimes your child’s thinking and behaviour seems quite mature, but at other times your child seems to behave or think in illogical, impulsive or emotional ways? The back-to-front development of the brain explains these shifts and changes – teenagers are working with brains that are still under construction.

    Incomplete brain development was obviously Travon’s problem in his reaction to this situation!

    When we look at George’s behavior it begs the question, “Who is the adult in this situation?”

    Travon’s behavior in attacking George was like that of a linebacker, that is what linebackers do and when I played football in high school the best linebacker on our team weighed 159 lbs. so I can’t disagree with Wes on that but George really isn’t playing with anything near an adult brain either! And if he were Wes who has an adult brain I am sure Wes would have stayed in his car, probably wouldn’t have a need to carry a gun for protection against burglers.

    He acted exactly like a teenager with an underdeveloped mind, impulsively, ignoring authority as you pointed out Paula. In my opinion the fact that he, being the adult, disregarded the instruction of the authorities makes him the responsible party to whatever happened. It had nothing to do with race but was an adult acting like a teenager.

    Seriously, George has a brain with arrested development, perhaps he did drugs as a teenager or it could just be genetic. In any event he is a person who should never have been able to possess a gun. There should be a test you have to take to prove your brain isn’t underdeveloped!

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Randy. I have not disagreed with you at all. & I hope you realize also that Diane was addressing Wes regarding Trayvon's "size."....which of course has nothing to do with what happened. I have/had one request & that is that no angry exchanges appear in my thread. That sort of vitriol helps nothing.

    I know, Diane knows and you know that Wes has a screwed up view of what actually occurred. I'm of the hope he can slow down and realize how wrong he is. Nearly everything he has said is due to being completely void of actual facts. I'm in shock that he somehow has been able to blame Trayvon for his own unnecessary death.

    Frankly, Randy...as I have told Wes, if he refuses to see his huge misconceptions of this case, I refuse to fight with him over it. I'm both shocked and upset over his attitude and he doesn't seem to care that he has it all wrong. So, again, this is where I walk away.

    Disagree with you?? I have stated repeatedly, every last thing you too have stated. (I need to know how you and Wes READ...is this just a male-female sort of misinterpretation?)

    My one request of you guys is no angry exchanges in my thread. I guess I'm just talking to myself. I'm being ignored. That's not OK.

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    His size doesn't matter, Diane. Zimmerman had a gun and thought he could intimidate someone with it. Instead, he instigated a brawl and murdered an innocent teenager because of his arrogance. He should be in prison for his stupidity.

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 weeks ago from Fontana

    Excuse me! I just had to add this: It was never stated that Trayvon was built like a linebacker. It makes it easier to hate him if you make him into a monster. When people hate, they have to try to justify it with lies.

    According to his autopsy, Martin was 5 feet 11 inches (1.80 m) tall and weighed 158 pounds (72 kg) at the time of his death.[12]

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    Just what do you disagree with in my comments, Paula. Zimmerman was a tough guy wannabe who harassed and murdered a child who was simply defending himself from a gun carrying bully. If Zimmerman wasn't carrying a gun in the first place he would be afraid to confront even a child. Sad creep that he is...

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Alright you guys....Enough! This sort of negative banter is precisely what I did not want. I love you both....but I have my rules. You better have had your last say. I'm the boss here & will tolerate no more. Period, The End.

    Again, Wesman, I would ask that you please read my article. With each comment, it's clear to me you are very misinformed on the actual facts. Trayvon's parents are nice people. They loved their son and they LOST their son.

    Zimmerman was not, is not "A Night Watchman!" He was a generic neighbor in a location that endorses "Neighborhood Watch," as many do. He was not "On duty"...he was driving through on a personal errand. Zimmerman: a trouble-maker, Loser-wanna-be-cop, who blatantly over-stepped his boundaries. I will say no more and no less at this point. If you do not READ my article, you and I have nothing further to discuss on this particular topic. I ask that you please respect this.

    Randy....I would hate to think of anyone I know, making the fatal mistake of settling a tussle with a gun.,,especially an encounter that should NOT have occurred. I think I'll take my own advice now as I've said ENOUGH.

    One more word from either of you and I'll introduce you to my fiercely UGLY Twin sister. Even I, don't like her! Paula

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    LOL! Where was the gunman from who murdered all those people in El Paso, Toddy? Was he a neighbor of yours? Did that "Texas" citizen think he was helping the Darwin effect along a bit?

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    Wesman Todd Shaw 

    3 weeks ago from Kaufman, Texas

    Nothing sad about it other than some idiot child attacking someone. What horrific parents that child must have had. And then you attack a night watchmen with a pack of skittles? Darwin Award.

    It's best for all society when the Darwin effect removes the least useful.

    Here in Texas, we don't have many cases like that - where some random moron attacks someone. Oh it happens, but for the most part, we know here that anyone may well be armed, and an armed society is a more polite one.

    The clown is sad? Oh that is sad. I think I'll cry now. Everyone Honk for Chuckles.

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    Randy Godwin 

    3 weeks ago from Southern Georgia

    In that I totally agree with you, Paula. Wes is a bit over the deep end on this topic. But I don't doubt at all if Wes were getting his butt beat by some kid he was harassing, he would use a gun to settle the argument in his favor. Sad...

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Wes......You may have slid by with a comment that I clearly find outrageous and repulsive.....merely due to my basic nature to try to be "nice" to my friends, no matter how angered I am by what I most definitely see as a bad attitude.

    Or, to say it another way, had your comment been written by someone who means nothing to me, I would not have approved it. As you must be aware, in 8 yrs I have not had this reaction to you nor have I spoken to you so harshly. You deserve it. You've had your say. Now I will have mine. Afterward, hopefully we shall remain fond of each other.

    I haven't a single doubt you did not read a single word of my article. I say this because had you read it, you would have to know that you and I are as far apart on this issue (event) that 2 people can possibly be. Please know that I read and re-read your remarks to make certain I "got it" as you intended to convey it.

    Of course we can disagree on any matter. I am both sad and disappointed with your attitude on this situation. But we're not going to go back & forth here on my thread. If you wish to discuss it we can do that by email.....where I can privately kick your butt. OR, we can just agree to disagree and drop the matter Either is fine with me, but it will take me a while to forgive you for what you've said. Paula

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Diane...I stand with you and your comment you have just shared. "Emboldening" appears to have become rampant due to numerous issues that seem to be forced-fed to the public in too many cases, under erroneous (made-up) standards.

    I hear you also when you say you try to divert from these discussions....as do I. However, having said this, I want no one to make the fatal mistake of thinking that I (we) cannot easily and accurately KNOW the good guys from the bad.

    Be well, Diane and Peace, Paula

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    Wesman Todd Shaw 

    3 weeks ago from Kaufman, Texas

    The more time passes the more I realize the Fake News mass media completely framed George. Oh George is probably not the nicest guy you'd meet, but some kid who's built like a linebacker starts putting a beatdown on me for asking him what he's doing in my neighborhood late at night, and I've got a pistol?

    Bye Bye kiddo. Fare the well.

    This whole thing was fake news before the great Trump started calling it exactly what it is. They constantly used a picture of 12 year old little Trayvon, as though THAT were who assaulted George Zimmerman late at night.

    But we all know for sure what the #FAKENEWS media wants. We also all know for certain who the owners of that hate filled anti-American entity is too.

    They would love to turn the United States into another Marxist hell hole, just like Venezuela. And WHY? Oh because there can be no global government ran by antichrist in Jerusalem while the United States remains strong.

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 weeks ago from Fontana

    I try to not discuss this stuff much any more. We live in a world where some are made to be the bad guys based on criteria that have no intelligent foundation. At least the idiot in Florida who killed a guy just got convicted of manslaughter. During the trial, it was revealed that the shooter had attacked another person about a parking spot within the past two years. Stand You Ground is causing more violence than necessary because some (who really need no encouragement) are emboldened.

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    Paula 

    3 weeks ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Good Evening Poetryman......Indeed, my friend. It appears you and I agree on both counts. I believe you and I could have quite invigorating conversations over Tea/Coffee! I thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Peace, Paula

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    poetryman6969 

    3 weeks ago

    In very different contexts Epstein and Zimmerman are proof positive that we live in a world where some people do get away with murder. I don't believe Epstein "jumped" I believe he was "pushed"--so to speak. I also believe that Zimmerman got away with chasing an unarmed teenager and murdering him in cold blood.

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    Paula 

    2 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    +Dear Besarian, I appreciate your input. Yes, as mothers, this incident certainly did shake us to our core. I'm confident I made my message (and strong opinion) crystal clear. Unfortunately, "Mr. Burton & individuals of his mind-set, didn't seem to get my simple message. I noticed after he commented here, that he left a nearly identical rant on most all articles written on our site, on this same topic. One of his lengthy tirades left me utterly fuming with anger. In short, he made every unreasonable attempt to JUSTIFY Zimmerman's lethal action that fateful night. I intend to respond to that comment but thought it wise to give myself some time to calm down.

    I can easily understand your fears and the actions you took with your own son. How very sad that you, or any parent must feel such intense uneasiness in our society today. But the reality is, we must.

    You are very kind. I'm afraid that I'm not at all concerned that Zimmerman may feel "afraid & alone. " In my humble opinion, the only thing that should frighten George Zimmerman is what atrocity he may do next.

    Bless you & your family. Peace, Paula

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    Besarien 

    2 months ago from South Florida

    I've tried to look at it like it isn't a racial issue. Man in his his thirties chasing down a boy in his late teens. Is it unreasonable for the boy to run and hide? To fight for his life when the man found him? Martin did everything that I would hope my son would do if pursued by a man he didn't know whose motives for chasing him were unclear. That is why this case shook me so. I find what Martin did far easier to understand than what Zimmerman did.

    After this my son's lone hoodie which he wore up to keep his ears warm went into the trash. I couldn't even bring myself to donate it in case another person suffered either fear or suspicion because of it. I made my son wear a rape whistle around his neck which he still wears as far as I know. Now if he is ever in a similar situation he can wake a neighborhood and have witnesses and hopefully aid. I wear one when I run. I think Mr. Zimmerman should wear one too so he is never feeling alone and afraid.

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    Paula 

    2 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Mr. Burton, Thank you for visiting my site. I am always willing to read the opinions and thoughts of others, whether I agree with them or not. I admit I'm a bit confused, or perhaps it's concern I am feeling. It appears to me you have not fully understand my article as I clearly intended. I will attempt to reiterate for you in the hope you'll better comprehend MY position which I conveyed in my article.

    At no point within the text of my article do I mention "race" at all. If you felt the need to bring it up based upon the fact that during the time, after this tragedy, the race card flew around by those with the mob-mentality, rest assured, I am not a person who is influenced nor affected by such ignorance. I ignore it. Not for a moment did I believe George to be a racist.

    It was and IS my opinion that George Zimmerman is an unintelligent, angry, wanna-be-a-somebody-he's-not, careless moron.

    Per your comment's opening words, allow me to respond in kind: Walking in a neighborhood to the home of one's father, minding one's own business is not justification to be trailed & ultimately shot to death.

    I'm sorry you do not find it a ludicrous, unacceptable coincidence that George's "story" of how things went down was more believable to law enforcement. Pray tell, Mr. Burton, more believable than perhaps the missing testimony of a dead man?? Interesting.

    What shall we tell our kids? To NOT do drugs is a no- brainer, my friend...Yes, if threatened, they should call 911' Zimmerman called 911 to report the "suspicious stranger" walking in his neighborhood, didn't he? But from that point, he was simply too stupid and gung-ho to play cops 'n robbers, to remain in his vehicle to await the police as he was strongly advised to do. Even had he not been advised, he should have had the common sense the Good Lord gave a gnat, to sit tight and not approach (excuse me, once AGAIN) "a suspicious-looking person!" George Z....all by himself, kick-started the entire tragic incident, set himself up and is 100% responsible for the deadly outcome.

    That, my dear Mr. Burton was and IS my point and the point I made repeatedly in my article. Not race, not who had a better explanation for what evolved, not who attacked who first..not what we should teach our children..none of that. not at all.

    Are you friend or family of Zimmerman? You needn't answer that because I really don't care. I've not heard nor read a single thing about George for a very long time. I have no interest in what he's doing, where he is or HOW he is. I do hope and pray someone with the authority to do so, has relinquished Zimmerman's right to carry a gun and has taken any & all weapons away from this idiot with the anger problems and burning desire to be a pretend cop!

    Once again. Thanks so much for the visit. I'll bet it will be your last. Oh well.

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    Jack Burton 

    2 months ago from The Midwest

    Part Two

    But what the jury knew was enough. Following isn’t stalking. Being followed isn’t justification for trying to literally beat a man’s brains out. Having your skull smashed into hard surfaces is likely to kill you, and the universal laws of man and God allow you to kill your attacker to make him stop doing that to you. The forensic evidence and the bulk of the testimony alike were consistent with Zimmerman’s account of self-defense. The state’s witnesses, one after the other, turned into defense witnesses. In the end, the state’s theory amounted to … nothing.

    That prosecution theory, in turn, evolved from the media … and, tracked back further, the media’s fantasy of what happened evolved from a brilliant left-wing public relations firm hired by the lawyer who was hired by the family of the deceased.

    The PR folks outraged the media, and the media inflamed the public. Enraged people, once invested in their emotion, have trouble facing contradictory facts and evidence.

    Fortunately, the Zimmerman jury recognized the facts, and the evidence. They — like the original investigating officers who believed Zimmerman, like the original prosecutor who saw no reason to prosecute, like the FBI agents who investigated Zimmerman and found no hint of racism, and like the member of the Special Prosecutor’s office who was fired for doing what prosecutors are supposed to do and turning over exculpatory evidence to the defense — did Justice.

    “What do we tell our kids after this?” How about we tell them not to do drugs and not to violently, illegally assault people? Tell them to call 9-1-1 as soon as they perceive a threat?

    And perhaps we should warn them too that if they defend themselves from life-threatening assault, they should be prepared to face the misdirected, powerful wrath of the clueless and politically driven … a powerful force being directed against George Zimmerman from multiple angles even now, at this writing.

    The facts are in. The jury decided correctly. It is up to each individual whether to accept the clear facts, or stand on illogical emotion. Standing on emotion means helping perpetuate the race problem. Yes, it is sad that Martin was killed in this incident, but the facts show that he wantonly attacked Zimmerman, and Zimmerman had every right to defend himself against this unlawful, felonious, and deadly aggression.

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    Paula 

    13 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    That's the one!! I remember "your sin will find you out." Thanks Diane! "

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    13 months ago from Fontana

    Numbers 32:23 But if you fail to keep your word, then you will have sinned against the LORD, (this part?) and you may be sure that your sin will find you out.

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    Paula 

    13 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    The man certainly has serious issues, Diane. He seems to be extremely needy for fame & attention but it's all negative!

    The verse I'm recalling actually has the the phrase in it about one's sins proving a man's heart, I think. Anyway, George fits the Scripture.

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    13 months ago from Fontana

    Hi Paula! I hope know one else gets hurt. He has so many violent encounters.

    Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.

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    Paula 

    13 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Hello, Diane....Glad you stopped by. I see I have missed all of the more recent shenanigans of pathetic George. Of course, it shouldn't be surprising he went on to have more self-inflicted chaos in his life & disruption for others. This man is a very troubled dude, as is clearly evident by his radical behavior and failure to recognize right from wrong, legal from illegal.

    I don't know Scripture word for word but quite often, some of what I do know, resonates with me when situations rise. In Mr. Zimmerman's life, I recall something about "your sins will find you....?" You are well-versed and I'm sure you could find the Scripture I'm thinking of....

    It seriously looks like George simply cannot get it together!!

    Someone said to me, "Ya just gotta feel sorry for this poor idiot." My response was, "I absolutely do not."

    Peace, Diane.

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    13 months ago from Fontana

    That's not even the latest.

    George Zimmerman charged with stalking man working on Trayvon Martin documentary

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged...

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    Paula 

    13 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    UPDATE!!!! Friends, Are you aware of this news on George Zimmerman as of 2016?! I just happened upon this and can't believe I have been totally unaware of this until now. There have been so many high-profile cases in the headlines these past 2 years, it seems I lost my focus on this particular case.

    In case you have been as in-the-dark as I had been until today, I've included the link for a most disturbing news story.

    It amazes me that sometimes things just can't be egregious enough, that they don't get even worse!

    How much lower can this man called George, slither like a snake?

    https://www.bustle.com/articles/160367-this-george...

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Hey special lady....I'm not surprised you mention our little friend, Casey. I thought about her only a couple of days ago. Can't begin to imagine what she's doing....working? What's going on between George & Cindy, Casey & Lee....the world's most dysfunctional family....

    Amazing how they just keep breezing through life with the blood of a precious innocent child on their hands.

    Reality is tough to face, but IMHO, they all played their own twisted part in that baby's ultimate demise. Thanks SFAM.....Love you.

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    Linda Bilyeu 

    3 years ago from Orlando, FL

    I wonder what George is up to these days, he's been very quiet, he's bound to hit the local news once again since as we know, George doesn't know how to lay low like Casey does.

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Oh how sweet blue, you still care! I've been around, just not as much as usual.

    Yes, that's true. No one really cares to be covert about anything. Just a clear indication that boldness is spreading & it's now up to the victim to prove wrong doing by the perp. In your face challenging has grown popular......Thanks for touching base. I will get around to checking your site. I think about you. I see "Jason" (is that his name?) writes a lot like you, or at least some of the same topics. I've read his work. Like you, he's a brainiac! Love, Paula

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    somethgblue 

    3 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    I thought for sure something may have happened to you or you were on vacation because I hadn't seen any of your comments lately, good to see your still vacillating on a regular basis.

    I was just thinking about how the Government in the past would simply eliminate the witnesses in the cases where they're clearly wrong, such as Waco and Ruby Ridge, while not exactly the same scenario . . . now they don't even try to hide their injustices.

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    diane....Yes, despite selectivity during voir dire, there can never be assurance on the objectivity of jurors. A jury panel is no place for a weak-willed nor uninformed person.

    Too bad this in itself was not the worst issue with this case.

    Thanks for stopping by. Peace, Paula

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 years ago from Fontana

    It's unfortunate that reasonable people were not selected for the jury. It's sad how one juror can manipulate the juror.

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    moon......Hi there. Yes, we've had a few too many GUILTY be allowed to remain free & unpunished. It's a painful thing to witness and too shocking to understand.

    I'm glad you brought up the "Avery" case. That story in it's entirety is one that is enough to blow our minds. I am impressed that you are confident in your opinion. I stopped reading, listening and looking so deeply into this insane tragedy! I had to or I'd have imploded.

    I vacillated every hour on the hour. No high profile case I've ever followed has caused me such frustration & doubt. I'm uncomfortable suspecting that my struggle can be explained by the miscarriage of justice that occurred so many years ago. I want to believe my ability to reason is stronger and smarter than that.

    I would LOVE to have someone like you around to discuss this back & forth until I am as clear cut convinced as you!! Peace, Paula

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    moonlake 

    3 years ago from America

    I don't know what is wrong with jurors in our country. They let people like George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony back on the streets.

    Now this thing going on about Steven Avery. That man is guilty.

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    You must be looking in the mirror when you say that!!! LOL

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 years ago from Fontana

    Same to you. You are beautiful inside and out!

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Diane....I am flattered to have you as a follower. It takes a whole lot for me to lose my cool. This case nearly blew the top of my head off. It warms my heart that the vast majority of Americans see this as it is.....the way I have described in my letter. Of the many comments here, all but ONE are in complete agreement. As for the ONE denier.....I took care of him with my right hook!

    I take just so much nonsense & ignorance and then I POUNCE!! "Happy New Year to you & yours!!" Peace, Paula

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    G. Diane Nelson Trotter 

    3 years ago from Fontana

    Paula, I love you! I woke up, read your comment on my Hub, laughed and looked you up.

    It is obvious. Those who want to villainize Black people will believe anything they hear to the point of defying logic. Even though they see the evidence, they thing there is a conspiracy.

    I am most surprised at some of the people I have communicated with, and agreed with, on HP. God is not a racist. He is just. Discussions like this take the cover off bigots.

    Thank you for writing this. I am now "Following You!"

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    Paula 

    3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    True, Dana.....getting away with murder, bigotry, theft, rape, savage acts of terrorism....just about any disgusting and criminal act possible.

    We will never come far enough as long as even one small group of human beings exist, who insist THEY own and control the world.

    Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate your input. Peace, Paula

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    Dana Tate 

    3 years ago from LOS ANGELES

    It seems that no matter how far we have come, we still have a long way to go. It's sad that in this day and age people are still getting away with murder.

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    ps...Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. There have been so many "incidents" of this nature in the past year, it has become a serious National concern.

    All we can to is hope they tone down the rhetoric, keep the communications peaceful & constructive & bring about results.

    It's a real disillusionment to know that racism has reared its ugly head after decades of progress. How did this happen during the administration of a black President?

    I guess we all know that answer.

    Thank you again ps......Peace, Paula

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    blue...I'm back my love ad I brought the whipped cream....:)

    At the end of the day, it's incidents like this that encourage people to look deeply, mostly into ourselves.

    What you present here is worth serious consideration by anyone trying to understand. To close our minds to any and all possibilities is a mistake. The creation of fear, hatred & paranoia is a game that's been played for centuries.

    The originators could not have expected that enough human beings would evolve into "independent thinkers," who have awareness. I would agree with you however, that there are not near enough of the thinkers!

    Thanks blue......Love ya, Paula

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    Patricia Scott 

    4 years ago from sunny Florida

    This whole incident kept us on edge waiting for more hatred and violence to erupt...it saddens me so much that so much turns into a media circus and the truth is twisted and often never known.

    The only ones who ever really know what happens is those directly involved and usually one of them is not here to tell us their side.

    Wishing and hoping for more peace and thoughtful consideration on all sides of any issue....perhaps that really is just wishful thinking but I remain an eternal optimist.

    Thank you for sharing this with your candor and carefully chosen words, Paula.

    Angels are headed your way this morning ps

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    blue, my love....thanks for your nice long comment. I'll be back to comment when I have more time. You know how much I adore spending time with you......Forgive me. Grandchildren duties!!

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Big E....While I can appreciate your opinion, I am not of that belief. What happened (I don't believe for one moment ) had anything to do with George's "color," but rather the "person" he is.

    Even IF a black man, George would have his issues and delusions of grandeur. Even as black, he'd be stupid, unstable & "looking for his claim to fame."

    His refusal to sit back and let the law handle his report and his INSISTENCE to ignore what he was told BUT to pursue Trayvon was based solely on his self-created and unwarranted zealousness. He imagines himself a "Marshall Dillon." He's a simple nut case with a GUN!! It really is that simple AND TRAGIC.

    We all have our own opinion and way of looking at situations. I truly appreciate your input. A lot of people certainly would agree with you.

    George hasn't been in the headlines lately.....maybe someone bound him and shoved him a basement somewhere! We can only hope.

    Thanks & have a good day......Peace, Paula

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    Although the act itself was reprehensible regardless of skin color, the travesty was the so-called 'trial' and 'investigation' that followed.

    Clearly there was some bias being represented and I for one do not believe this was just a coincidence or product of our society.

    The manner in which the investigation and trial unfolded showed their was an agenda to create controversy and scandal, this was dog 'n' pony show for the public to incite hatred, confusion and fear and it worked.

    All of these so-called black on white police shootings are just what the doctor ordered for race riots and they work, with a little help from George Soros (he spent 33 million of the Ferguson riots) to help encourage the old Cabal tactic of divide and conquer public opinion.

    The public is being played like a cheap banjo (remember the Confederate flag issue?, I live in the South and no one cares down here, except the few truly ignorant).

    Manipulating public opinion is sooo incredible easy when the majority of Americans have been dummied down to the sixth grade level.

    Remember the show Are You Smarter Than A Sixth Grader, The Cabal is literally rubbing America's face in the fact that they are being taught to be ignorant and to embrace and defend their ignorance.

    Most people don't believe in conspiracies because they have been conditioned to embrace 'contempt prior to investigation' and ACTUALLY prefer to have their Television do their thinking for them.

    The Cabal knows that the majority of America will NEVER investigate anything on their own and have created sites like FB to promote rumor, gossip and speculation based on ignorance and hate.

    IF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WERE BLACK, is exactly the kind of tripe that The Cabal wants to hear and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the comment was made by a Government Paid Troll.

    Murder is murder, pure and simple and the color of your skin changes nothing.

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    big E 

    4 years ago

    My issue is if George Zimmerman was black when he approached Trayvon Martin there would not have been a fight most likely.

    Robert Downey Jr, John Griffin, and Rachel Doezel showed the world it is possible for a white person to change their appearance to black. I think it would help if they took all the white cops and security and have them go undercover as black cops and security. Black skin would have been a security guard for George Zimmerman the security guard.

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Well, by Golly...I'd say we are all 3 .. in excellent company!! Shall we call it "The BULL Ring?"......LOL

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    Randy Godwin 

    4 years ago from Southern Georgia

    I was including myself in the mix along with you guys, Paula. :)

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    I honestly don't know whether you're referring to Daniel.....or to me?

    Not that we BOTH don't have our share of BULL......I'm just wondering. LOL

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    Randy Godwin 

    4 years ago from Southern Georgia

    Now there's an actual example of authentic bull$hit if I've ever seen it! :P

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Nice to hear that in the future, you WILL resist & refrain from sharing your bovine reference...which does not qualify as humor, dear blue.....especially while I am starving off the 10 lbs I have gained over the summer Bar-B-Que season!! "Touchy, touchy topic" for any woman. Men place their very lives at risk attempting humor of any kind in these circumstances.....

    Should you be interested, I have an official list of words and/or phrases for all men to avoid when conversing with women, to include the corresponding times and topics. I'm all for helping men to live longer...........(smile)

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    Sorry I couldn't resist, I will refrain from sharing my bovine humor with you.

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    You mustn't fall out of your chair, my love. How saddened I would be if you injured that gorgeous specimen of the male anatomy before I am afforded the opportunity to ravage it.

    Of course, one more subtle mention of "heffers" and/or "mooing" and you shall be rendered the lone bull in the pen with absolutely nothing to do.........Such an udder tragedy...............Hugs, Effer

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    Speaking of shocked, I nearly fell out of my chair when I read you had absolutely nothing to say.

    Granted most of the time your comments are insightful, deep and bordering on genius but for you to be utterly speechless and lacking of coherent thought boggles the mind.

    If in the future that ever happens again, might I suggest 'mooing' until you get your voice back . . . just a thought.

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    LOL....a little anger never scares me.....especially online! we're pretty safe that way! Thanks Randy....

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    Randy Godwin 

    4 years ago from Southern Georgia

    Thanks Paula, I didn't comment before because I was so pissed off at the time I was afraid I would comment too adversely about Zimmerman. I did vote this hub up and interesting at the time. :)

    Got your email just now. :)

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    You READ my hub long ago and didn't COMMENT? Hmmm...I've done that only once in 4 years and I think it was because I had absolutely nothing to say, which shocked me into a semi-coma.

    You needn't publicize your email......My private email is no secret at all....it's fpherj48@aol.com......You can send me yours...and I'll proceed to contact you. Thanks so much!

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    Randy Godwin 

    4 years ago from Southern Georgia

    Paula, I tried to send you an email via your fan mail as you did on mine. I wondered if this aspect is still working now.

    If it isn't I will give you my email address here and you can remove it after jotting it down.

    Great hub, by the way. I read it shortly after you published it here. :)

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    MT......But as you can see.....this story is long gone and forgotten. Only Trayvon's loved ones are left to grieve and miss him. George is free to carry on like the crazy idiot he is. One day his Karma will come.

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    Linda Rogers 

    4 years ago from Minnesota

    Nice job writing this letter to George-I have to guess it was a healing process. This story really tugs at my heart. That poor little boy had no idea that there was a monster in the neighborhood that night disguised as a neighborhood watch person. Just tragic!

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Oh my blue....I wouldn't expect you to have my back if you don't agree with me!.....But you're a doll. (big sloppy kiss w/ lots of tongue action......OMG.....correction: naughty doll.

    What you suggest is not at all a stretch to believe. I'm so ready & willing to believe "THEY" are capable of any and all dastardly planned and staged events. I have Zero trust at this point......myself and an ever growing vast number of people who are paying any attention at all.

    Yes nicomp....We forgive you. You may rejoin the group now... LOL

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    Effer, I will always have your back even if I don't agree with you.

    I think their just might be much more to this story than either one of you realizes. Haven't both of you noticed how the police are being used to create racial tension in this country . . . they want anarchy, riots and chaos, so they will have an excuse for Martial Law.

    George Soros spent $33 million dollars to pay for the riots and demonstration in Detroit and Baltimore, both police actions very similar to the Zimmerman vs Martin event . . . its almost as if they are staging these events to elicit a response by the public.

    Oh and I found the quote by the eye witness that said they saw one of the men straddling the other grounding and pounding MMA style but it was mixed in with eye witness testimony from witnesses that were changing their story every other day.

    Hopefully it would be a big sloppy kiss with lots of tongue action . . .

    Uncle . . . that is good and humble, a quality not many possess ,perhaps I was to harsh, I have been known to get like that.

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    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    (sigh)......My HERO, Blue. Chivalry is not dead... I became so upset and frustrated, I simply wasn't going to print another word. Thank you so much. This is worth a drive to Tennessee to give you a ..KISS!

    nicomp......I don't think you hollered "Uncle" loudly or meaningful enough!

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    nicomp really 

    4 years ago from Ohio, USA

    Uncle.

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    and another story in Yahoo.News has the four witnesses changing their story like most people change their underwear.

    Here is a link to that story . . .

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin...

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    Here is an interview by Anderson Cooper that completely destroys nicom-poops story.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-intervi...

    On Tuesday’s AC360, CNN’s Anderson Cooper spoke with two witnesses, Mary Cutcher and her roommate Selma Mora Lamilla, who were at the scene of the gated community, The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, Florida, the night Trayvon Martin was shot to death by George Zimmerman.

    “So you heard some sort of whining, some sort of commotion outside?” Cooper asked.

    “We were in the kitchen, with the window open and the blinds pulled. So we had complete view from outside,” Cutcher explained.

    Cooper asked her what was the first thing she saw.

    “By that time, you hear like a shot — like some other noise,” Lamilla described.

    “You heard the gunshot?” Cooper interjected.

    “Yeah, I run away from my backyard and when I just get into the point of my — like my screen, it stopped me, I look at the person on his knees on top of a body,” Lamilla elaborated.

    RELATED: Lawrence O’Donnell On Zimmerman 911 Tape: ‘I Believe What We Have Here Is Evidence Of A Police Cover-Up’

    “So you saw Mr. Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin?” Cooper questioned.

    “Trayvon, exactly,” Lamilla said.

    “When you say on top of, how so?” the CNN anchor pressed.

    “Straddling him,” Cutcher replied.

    “His legs were straddling him?” Cooper followed up.

    “One on each side, on his knees, with his hands on his back. I immediately thought, okay, obviously if it’s the shooter, he would have ran,” Cutcher detailed. “I thought he’s holding the wound, helping the guy taking a pulse, making sure he’s okay. When she called to him three times, everything okay, what’s going on? Each time he looked back, didn’t say anything and then the third time he finally said, ‘just call the police.'”

    “But at that time it was so dark,” Lamilla added. “I just saw this person. When she started calling the police, I saw Zimmerman walking with — touching like his hair, like kind of like confused back and forth to the body.”

    Lamilla and Cutcher described Zimmerman pacing around the body, following the shooting, and disputed that there was any indication of a fight.

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    Here is the first part of the article nil-comprendhe is referring too

    The shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the investigation leading up to the murder trial has spanned 16 months and many legal bombshells.

    NOTICE NO MENTION OF TREYVON SITTING ON MR. Z's CHEST . . . this is called disinformation a common troll-tard tactic.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-trayvon-...

    Here is a recap of how the case has unfolded:

    Feb. 26, 2012 – At about 7:17 pm George Zimmerman shoots Trayvon Martin as the 17-year-old is walking back from a convenience store in Sanford, Fla., Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, had called 911 about the "suspicious teen" and allegedly followed him. He immediately told police he shot Martin in self-defense after a scuffle. He is taken into custody but released that night. No charges are filed.

    March 8, 2012 - Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, the teenager's parents, create a Change.org petition calling for Zimmerman's arrest. Within 10 days it would have 200,000 signatures, and would swell at the pace of about 10,000 signatures an hour for several days.

    March 9: Two weeks after Martin was killed, Trayvon Martin's family attorney Benjamin Crump demands that police release the 911 tapes or make an arrest. Police declined to comment at the time, but told ABC News the tapes would be released the following week.

    March 13: Sanford Police Chief Billy Lee said there is no evidence to dispute Zimmerman's assertion that he shot Martin in self defense. That same day the lead investigator on the case Chris Serino files an affidavit recommending Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter.

    March 16: Martin's family first hears 911 calls made the night of the shooting. The cries for help send the boy's mother screaming from the room and prompted his father to declare, "He killed my son," a family representative tells ABC News. In a letter a day earlier Zimmerman's father insists it was George's voice crying for help. Tracy Martin's account is later disputed, when a police officer quotes Martin as saying the voice crying out was not his son.

    March 19: The U.S. Justice Department announces it will investigate Martin's death.

    March 22, 2012 – State Attorney Norm Wolfinger recuses himself from the case, does not provide an explanation. Sanford police chief Bill Lee announces he will resign "temporarily." Rallies calling for George Zimmerman's arrest start taking place across the nation.

    March 23, 2012 - President Obama comments on the case, saying he thinks the shooting should be investigated and telling reporters: "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."

    Florida Gov. Rick Scott appoints state attorney Angela Corey as a special prosecutor to look into the case. He also creates a task force to look into the state's "stand your ground" self-defense law.

    March 26, 2012 - Martin's family confirms that Martin had been in Sanford visiting his father because he was suspended from school after school officers found a plastic bag containing traces of marijuana in his backpack.

    March 28, 2012 – ABC News obtains surveillance video from the Sanford Police station showing George Zimmerman in police custody and without significant visible injuries approximately an hour after the shooting is released. Later, enhanced video show marks to his head and a swollen nose.

    April 3, 2012 - The FBI announces it has opened its own investigation into the Martin shooting.

    April 9, 2012 - Zimmerman launches TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com, replete with a paypal account for donations for his legal fund.

    April 10, 2012 – In a bizarre press conference, Zimmerman's attorneys, Hal Uhrig and Craig Sonner, announce they have lost contact with their client and no longer represent him.

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    somethgblue 

    4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

    By all accounts, research and intuition, I would have to say that is exactly what we are dealing with here. Either an incredibly insecure intelligence or a child, I'm leaning toward the latter.

    So far I have read six articles (picked at random) by this writer 'nicomp' and they all follow the same pattern, the immature wit of an adolescent mind trying to be clever, while essentially saying absolutely nothing.

    I kept hoping as I read the meaningless banter, weak rhetoric and incessant raillery that it would actually lead to a point but it never did.

    The problem I have is this seemingly innocent act of being confused and not understanding, it is the kind of defense you would expect from a six year old.

    If we are dealing with someone that is mentally impaired it would be understandable but the entire point of your article is if Mr. Z never leaves his truck and allows the police to do what our tax dollars pay them to do, no murder takes place, at least not by Mr. Z.

    A common troll-tard tactic is to agree with you and then bring in disinformation to the story, or some theme that distracts the author from the main point.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if 'nil-comprendhe' was a paid troll, these are classic troll tactics. Notice they didn't make one comment on any of my hubs related to the information in the article.

    Notice they introduce disinformation to the comments section here that wasn't part of your article, so in affect compelling you to defend a position not even a part of your article.

    Personally I think Hub Pages does the serious writers on this site a disservice by allowing these trolls to spread their disease but hey they don't consult me when making policy.

    Great Article Effer, keep up the good work.

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    nicomp really 

    4 years ago from Ohio, USA

    If you can use Google, abc news covered the trial and documented the testimony of the two witnesses , on abcnews.com, i think. I found it in a few seconds : you should be able to do the same. OK?

  • fpherj48 profile imageAUTHOR

    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    nicomp.....OK, unfortunately, I'm beginning to totally "understand" what Blue says about the games you play w/ everyone. You continue to discuss an issue that I am quite sure is NOT a fact. As in, it's not TRUE. Therefore, anything you say from that point is simply moot. I ASKED you to provide your proof of this. You ignored my request. This does not automatically make what you SAY to be a fact in this case.

    From DAY one the reports from the POLICE was that there was not a single "eye witness" to the altercation between Trayvon & George.

    George may have fabricated that tale....but again, he has proven himself a compulsive LIAR...not to mention the fact that he gave 4 DIFFERENT scenarios, one after each time the investigators made it clear that according to ALL evidence, "It could not have happened the way GZ claimed it did." How DUMB can anyone be?

    If "eye witnesses" SUDDENLY came forward, there should not be a shred of doubt that this was 100% Prosecutorial misconduct.....(if you don't KNOW that this occurs every single day in the Courtrooms of this Justice System of ours, you are sorely lacking Judicial knowledge.)

    "Under oath" oh excuse me......yeah, what the hell difference does that make to a Liar that has been coerced and protected by Prosecutors......

    Aside from this BULL......had Trayvon such an advantage that you describe......George gave him opportunity to do so by leaving HIS TRUCK AND APPROACHING TRAYVON. I do not need to repeat this again. YOU need to understand and STOP blaming the victim....the BLACK victim. You may as well tell me outright that you are a racist and will repeat any old crap just to blame it on the black dude.

    In no report, official document nor transcript is there testimony of what you claim. "On his back being pummeled!!"

    What is truly SILLY is you continuing to INSIST that Unarmed means something other than what it MEANS in plain, accurate English and most unequivocally in a Court of Law!!!! You insult my intelligence. Shame on you.

    You can argue law with me until you're green in the face, but without knowing what you're saying, it will not get past ME.

    The POINT here is if you did in fact agree with everything I said up to the part about Trayvon being "innocent & unarmed"......you actually did not agree with anything else I said. Because my opinion leads directly to the fact that GEORGE WAS TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY LAST OCCURRENCE THAT NIGHT INCLUDING THE MURDER OF AN INNOCENT UNARMED YOUNG MAN.

    If you pulled that crap in court in front of a Judge about stating Trayvon was "ARMED" with his fists.....you'd get one Judicial admonishment & if you said it again, you'd be charged with contempt and hauled away.

    If your intention is to reply by repeating the sheer nonsense...please understand this discussion is over. I will not waste my time with an adult behaving like a child just telling the same lie over and over.

    OH, but it's been such fun, nicomp! Have a good evening!

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    nicomp really 

    4 years ago from Ohio, USA

    The characterization is silly because TM pummeled GZ and probably would have permanently injured or killed him with his (unarmed) fists.

    When someone is sitting on your chest bloodying your face, they are not unarmed.

    And there were witnesses. The prosecution called two people who, under oath, testified that GZ was on the losing end of a fight. One of them testified that GZ was on his back being pummeled.

  • fpherj48 profile imageAUTHOR

    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    HUH??? Says WHO? Precisely from Where or what did you get this scenario of George on his back & Trayvon pummeling him??

    There was not a single person around to view any altercation.....& only 1 or 2 who claimed to have heard anything.

    By the time the police arrived...TRAYVON LAY ON THE GROUND, DEAD.....WITH MIGHTY MORON STANDING THERE LOOKING AS STUPID AS HE IS.

    I'm afraid I would insist on proof of the garbage you've repeated.

    Actually I WISH that were a true story. At least we could be assured Trayvon got a few good punches in before his last breath!!

    Excuse me nicomp, but WHY is "unarmed" a silly characterization? Because you think so? Tell us please.....how do you refer to an individual who is not in possession of a weapon??? The term is UNARMED. Nothing silly about it! Please don't try to divert with me. I don't budge easily. A fair & respectful debate please!

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    nicomp really 

    4 years ago from Ohio, USA

    GZ was on his back, TM sitting on him, pummeling him in the "ground and pound" style of MMA fighting. Unarmed is a silly characterization.

  • fpherj48 profile imageAUTHOR

    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    nicomp......Either agree, disagree or a combo of both, as in your case....are A-OK with me. I have 2 comments in response.

    1. George has been proven numerous times to be a LIAR....therefore I place no credence in anything he says about having been attacked. Maybe he was, maybe he's full of crap. The other party is dead. This gives me the right to think what I feel is more credible.

    2. In the possible scenario Trayvon DID attack Jerkoff Zimmerman, a.) When one is approached after dark by a total stranger, confronted with questions in a show of authoritative, obtrusive attitude, self defense is understandable. Please do not ignore my central point! GZ set himself up to be attacked by GETTING OUT OF HIS FRIGGING TRUCK. I'm becoming a bit annoyed at some readers who are going above, beyond and around the whole point of my opinion....WHICH IS: NONE of the tragic activity happens that night if George the pathetic wanna-be-cop A$$hole STAYS IN HIS TRUCK. That's the CRUX...the whole point! Period the end!

    The human body ("FISTS").....is/are not lethal unless one is a master at one of the Martial Arts. You are smart enough to know this....please don't grasp at nonsense straws. Trayvon was in fact..unarmed! ALSO, at the time he was INNOCENT....what do you believe he was guilty of?? Walking? Talking on his phone? Crossing lots? Carrying skittles? BULL CRAP!

    Zimmerman is mentally deranged!

    Thanks for reading and also for the follow. I have read one of your hubs and see some others I'd like to read. (I'm sorry blue was so rude to you.....I've known him a long time. He must be in a negative cycle.) He's normally a nice guy.......I was a little surprised. You took it well.

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    nicomp really 

    4 years ago from Ohio, USA

    I was with you up to "innocent unarmed." Zimmerman was attacked, his attacker was not innocent and was armed with fists.

  • fpherj48 profile imageAUTHOR

    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    FA......Some of the high profile defendants in recent History have been clever enough to lay low and try to get on with some form of life while avoiding the ire of the public.

    Then there are the self-absorbed idiots like OJ, who apparently kept insisting that he get locked up, because he finally IS. Linda Sue tells me she read somewhere that Casey attended a "MOTHER'S DAY" event......Yes, you read correctly. Casey, "Mother of the Century."

    It's enough to baffle us!

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    FlourishAnyway 

    4 years ago from USA

    This makes me think that it'd be interesting to see a hub on famous cases in which the defendant was found not guilty (or otherwise escaped punishment) and what happened to them afterwards. OJ, Casey Anthony, Ted Kennedy, etc.

  • fpherj48 profile imageAUTHOR

    Paula 

    4 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Au fait Whether 2 cents or beyond, your comments are priceless. I for one appreciate opinions, especially from wise,rational adults. I too feel the Stand your ground law is valuable, when used in it's appropriate way. However, as you presented so well, WHO is to judge the fear perception of the potential victim? Always the "but" we must consider. I DO recall the incident of the Japanese exchange student. Sad.

    Will have to search for the NYC subway story. That's one that got past me. Sounds interesting.

    Mr. Zimmerman I'm afraid has written much too much on the wall, both prior to and certainly since the Trayvon Martin tragedy. I so agree with you, C.E........some people have way too much time on their hands and nothing creative nor productive to do with that time but snoop and stalk under the guise of "justice."

    Thank you so much for your much appreciated input!

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