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Updated on April 1, 2013

Gun Control in America

With the horrific events of Sandy Hook and the Batman movie shootings, the topic of gun control in America has been heating up. No one can deny the fact that these were some very tragic events in American history that will stay in the minds of many for decades, such as the events of Waco, Columbine,or Dahmer of the 90's. No one can argue that either one of the perpetrators of these events should have had possession of the weapons used to commit these heinous acts. And with the help of the Judicial System and the 12 individuals sitting in the box listening to all of the evidence to prove without a shadow of a doubt the guilt these individuals, we will be able to move forward with our daily lives. Before we can start a new day, we must deal with the aftermath. The families are still dealing with the deaths of their beloved ones as the media begins televising the political side of things. Someone, anyone must do something to prevent this from ever happening again. What we SEE is two parties fighting back and forth on what can be done, what should be done, and what must be done. The most important part of this conundrum is who is going to make that choice and how!

One has the belief that more guns equals more murders by guns. The funny part about that argument is that its a fact. Great Britain has fewer murders by firearms per year. Australia has fewer as well as Japan and other countries that have strict bans on weapons.( http://www.juancole.com/2013/01/firearm-murders-equiv.html) Yet the fact remains there are still murders by firearms. Which means the ban was not 100% effective but accomplished the goal of preventing so many gun deaths from happening. Many will contend that banning guns from responsible owners will cause the violent crime to increase, and they would be correct in that regard. Because Australia and Great Britain were used previously we will used them again. With the bans of weapons in both these countries due to mass shootings, the rate of firearm deaths drastically decrease. Australia spent billions of dollars buying back guns from owners as well as Great Britain. The after effect of this was not able to be determined. No one would have imagined that all other crimes would actually increase. (http://www.captainsjournal.com/2012/07/23/do-gun-bans-reduce-violent-crime-ask-the-aussies-and-brits/) Statistics show that countries that have bans already in place have a higher violent crime rate. Meaning assaults, rapes, and home invasions.


While both arguments are valid we are presented with a ban on assault type weapons such as the AR-15 (The "AR" in AR-15 comes from the Armalite name and does not stand for 'assault rifle' as is commonly believed.) because these weapons were used in the last two mass shootings. By banning these weapons and limiting the number of rounds a magazine can hold, we can effectively curb the ability of these type of incidents from happening. This argument is enforced by a constant reminder of the children of Sandy Hook. "WE MUST NOT FORGET" as it was so eloquently put by the P.O.T.U.S as he addressed the nation recently. Background checks are already in place for most purchases, however how far into your personal life should anyone be able to go before it is ok for you to buy that weapon? Convicted felons are already banned from owning any type of firearm, but when it comes to your medical records is that ok? what if your loved one dies and you go through a period of depression and you seek the assistance of a psychiatrist, who prescribes you an anti-depressant for a short time. In that instance you can potentially be denied the purchase and/or ownership of a firearm even if you are a productive citizen of society. Limit of private sales means registry of your weapons which means that if you don't want your gun anymore or you want to gift it or sell it to someone you have to complete a background check on your mother, father, cousin, uncle, son, or anyone else you decide to give or sell to. Also if you are in the registry and your short period of depression comes up you are then in violation of the law. What then?


Our Constitution states that as citizens we have the right to bear arms and to form a well regulated militia to defend the country from enemies foreign and domestic. Part of my oath as a US Army soldier stated the same. Some may begin to think I'm a conspiracy theorist at this point but I'm not. I'm simply an American citizen that loves and has defended his country who is simply using individual thought to assess the events that have been laid before the world. I'm not saying that our government is out to get us but somethings that are going on just don't sit right with me. Why the need for Homeland Security to purchase millions of hollow point rounds. The excuse that they are using them for practice doesn't fit well with me because, one they are to expensive to use for practice, and two there are standard rounds used by the government to practice with. Another thing that disturbs me is the drills of our military side by side with with local law enforcement within the city limits. Generally when military does exercises to train for war time scenarios, its done in an area that is similar to the environment that the soldiers are going to be facing. Last time i checked there are no cities in the Middle East that resemble any cities in the United States. Also if we are at war with terrorism and we are constantly reminded that there is always the possibility of another 9/11, if we are currently deployed in multiple countries preparing for possible attack, then why would our Government want to disarm the people who will fight and die for this country? What if there was an attack(God knows I don't want that) but what if? How are we to defend ourselves and country from the foreign attack? I'm only asking valid questions that may never have a valid answer.



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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      All I can say Chris, is no one has the right to own a gun that can kill 30 people in 27 seconds. No one.

      I have the right to be free from guns just as much as people have the right to own them.

      My person is just as sancrosanct as that ak47.

      And well regulated means just that.

      We have swung WAY too far in the rights of gun-owners, and have forgotten the right to have them regulated and safe.

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      Chris Spence 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      I appreciate your view and your comment is greatly appreciated.

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      Jack Burton 4 years ago from The Midwest

      Fortunately our country was founded with the "Bill of Rights" and not the "Bill of What LMC Thinks We Should and Should Not Have."

      Lmc has admitted that she thinks ALL guns should be taken away. Her argument about 30 people is an outright lie. She is just using that as an excuse to ban one type.... in her goal to further ban all firearms.

      In other posts lmc has confused virtually every type of firearm out there, almost to the point of including a Daisy Red Ryder in her list of weapons of mass destruction. :-)

      It has been explained over and over to her in the past years where she is factually wrong about firearms, and she still pops up, knowingly spreading false and misleading info. There's a word for folk such as that.

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      Chris Spence 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Jack you are absolutely correct this country was found with the "Bill of Rights" and within those "bills" is a very important one, the right to free speech. Wheter we agree with LMC or not she is entitled to her own opinion. We must remember you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. If it were a perfect world then a need for guns would not be a question, unfortunately the world we live in is cruel, and there are those who want to rule the world and have the money, armies, and influence to do it. The most powerful weapon we all have is the power of thought. When we learn to think freely and not be told what to think then we will be a better human race. Until then, I will continue to live the oath I took in 1993.

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Chris, I like your piece. You've clearly stated the argument for supporting our second amendment rights.

      There is nothing unconstitutional nor immoral about a person owning a gun with 30 rounds or more in a clip....nothing at all, not at any level. I'll grant that in the hands of those who intend to commit mass murder, larger clips DO make their task a little easier; however, take the massive clips away from everyone and the potential mass murderer will simply use another means to accomplish his (her) objective.....can you say improvised explosive devices?

      There's an excellent study online about Japan's experience with gun control. The author is David B. Kopel. I recommend it only because it puts to rest the lie that Japan is a 'success story' America should emulate when it comes to gun legislation. It's a lie that I expect to hear more often now as politicians push for tougher gun laws.

      Voted up and interesting.

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      Jack Burton 4 years ago from The Midwest

      chris... yes, lmc has the right to her opinion. However, I have worked in the past with people who a flat earthers, unicorn believers and ufo abductees. She is no different.

      She emotes, she doesn't reason. I enjoy nothing better than a good discussion of facts and opinions, but she deals off from the bottom of the deck every single time.

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      Acbethea 4 years ago from North Carolina

      Hey guys, just wanted to put in my two cents. I think my issue is I live in a military town and there have been soldiers returning from war zones who have commited shootings. Maybe not a mass shooting but I think we all agree that gun murders of any number is tragic. With smaller clips you'll just have people practicing to change clips faster, in small areas like a movie theater you still don't have time to react. There has to be something more than just how much ammo you have in your weapon at one time. I'm not sure what the answer is but it cannot be settled by passing one or two laws.

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "Lmc has admitted that she thinks ALL guns should be taken away. "

      THIS is the outright lie.

      I would like to live in a gun-free world, but that is never going to happen....unless we were a true Christian country, that is. But we will never be a true Christian country...too many Devils.

      We do, however have RIGHTS. And one of them is to be free in our person.

      This includes me, who has the right to sit in a movie theatre without an ak47 next to me.

      Guns are deadly weapons. We have the right to be safe FROM them. They should, at the least--be as regulated as cars....which people endlessly tell me are a priviledge.

      If getting to work is a priviledge, what do you call having a high-capacity clip?

      This may represent "freedom" to you: to me, it is BS. You do not have the right to committ mass murder. We have the right to prevent it!

      "the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School: a 154-bullet barrage that took less than five minutes"

      http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/28/17...

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      And this being Easter.....I would like to know. What kind of people NEED this anyway?

      What the H is wrong in America, that this is looked on as a right?

      "Thou shalt not kill".....only applies to fertilized eggs, I guess.

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      Mike 4 years ago

      ""Lmc has admitted that she thinks ALL guns should be taken away. "

      THIS is the outright lie.

      I would like to live in a gun-free world, but that is never going to happen....unless we were a true Christian country, that is. But we will never be a true Christian country...too many Devils."

      Really, here is your post on another HUB:

      "Hey--I'm being generous. I'd like to see all guns thrown into the sea."

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      "We do, however have RIGHTS. And one of them is to be free in our person.

      This includes me, who has the right to sit in a movie theatre without an ak47 next to me."

      Does this happen in your area? I'm guessing no.

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      "Guns are deadly weapons. We have the right to be safe FROM them. They should, at the least--be as regulated as cars....which people endlessly tell me are a priviledge.

      If getting to work is a priviledge, what do you call having a high-capacity clip?"

      Legal.

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      "This may represent "freedom" to you: to me, it is BS. You do not have the right to committ mass murder. We have the right to prevent it!"

      Murder is illegal where I live. If this is not the case where you live, you may want to consider moving.

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "I'd like to see all guns thrown into the sea."

      "but that is never going to happen...."

      Comprende?

      "Does this happen in your area?"

      I don't think we allow ak47's in Massachussetts, but I would have to check. But---men can't have an abortion. Does that stop them from wanting to outlaw it?

      "Legal."

      And well-regulated. Your rights end where my nose begins.

      Keeping military assault rifles off the streets will def prevent mass murders. Then we don't need to haggle with the cost of trials.

      You pro-gun? You pay for the trials and the emergency care!

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      Jack Burton 4 years ago from The Midwest

      Lmc sez: THIS is the outright lie. I would like to live in a gun-free world

      Jack replies: lmc has trouble keeping consistent even from sentence to sentence. She wants to ban all guns… how she phrases it is immaterial to her desires.

      Lmc sez: We do, however have RIGHTS. And one of them is to be free in our person.

      Jack replies: “free in our person”? No one even knows what that means. It’s like throwing darts up against a dictionary and posting the words that have holes in them.

      Lmc sez: This includes me, who has the right to sit in a movie theatre without an ak47 next to me.

      Jack replies: But it’s okay then to have a 30 round Keltec PMC handgun next to you? Or a 19 round .40 caliber Glock handgun? Or a 15 round Ruger P95 9mm handgun? I’ll be sure to remember that the next time I go to a theater and sit next to a person.

      BTW… just where did you gain this “right” to determine the actions of other people? Most people understand a “right” as something that says, “this is what I am allowed to do.” Your understanding of a “right” is “this is what other people must do to appease me.”

      Lmc sez: Guns are deadly weapons. We have the right to be safe FROM them. They should, at the least--be as regulated as cars....which people endlessly tell me are a priviledge.

      Jack replies: You want to treat guns like cars? Okay...let's rock and roll...

      Do I need the governments permission to buy a car? No.

      Do I need to buy the car from only certain people with licenses to sell cars? No.

      Can I buy as many cars as I want each week/month/year. Yes

      Can I buy small cars, big cars, slow cars, fast cars, cars that look dangerous? Yes

      Can I buy Hummers virtually like the troops use? Yes.

      Do I have to wait from 5 to 15 days to pick up my car. No

      If I traded in one car for a newer model do I still have to wait five to ten days to pick the new one up. No

      Can I modify my car to allow more fuel, more performance, or better cornering. Yes

      Would I have to turn over to the government without compensation some models of automobiles that might be banned years after I buy them. No

      Do I need a license to buy a car? No

      (in most states)

      Can I buy a car at age 16? Yes.

      Can I buy a muffler in all states to quiet my car without paying a $200 tax? Yes.

      In New York can I drive a car with two different colors? Yes.

      Are driving lessons mandated in most high schools? Yes

      Can I buy a car from anyone in any state? Yes.

      Can I sell my car to anyone in any state? Yes

      Can convicted felons buy, own or drive a car. Yes

      Do all states allow automatic transmissions in cars? Yes

      In some places (e.g. NYC or New Jersey) would I first need a permit to buy from the police department which sometimes takes up to 2 years to obtain. No

      Do I need to register a car that I own? No (as long as I keep it on my own property)

      Do I need a background check or waiting period to buy a car? No

      Is my car held responsible if I misuse it? No

      Would failure to register my car be a federal felony (prevents me from owning another one). No

      Do I need to "safe store" my car even though many are stolen and used for criminal purposes? No

      Will I lose my driver's license if I violate the law with my car? Most likely not

      Can I legally drive my car into any state/city in the nation with every jurisdiction honoring my registration/license? Yes

      Shall I go on? Or do you really, really want to treat guns like cars?

      Lmc sez: If getting to work is a priviledge, what do you call having a high-capacity clip?

      Jack replies: I am curious what ~you~ call a “high capacity clip” since you have no more idea what one is than you do a bullpup.

      Lmc sez: This may represent "freedom" to you: to me, it is BS. You do not have the right to committ mass murder.

      Jack replies: This is what lmc is reduced to… remember my post about her inability to reason logically and her only technique being emotional posting?

      Lmc sez: We have the right to prevent it!

      Jack replies: 1) not a single one of your emotionally based ideas will prevent a single person being harmed by a social deviant. 2) You don’t even know what the problem is, so just what are you going to do to prevent it?

      Lmc sez: "the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School: a 154-bullet barrage that took less than five minutes"

      Jack replies: I can fire off 154 bullets in five minutes with my six-shooter. You want to ban them also?

      Of course you do.

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      Jack Burton 4 years ago from The Midwest

      lmc sez: And well-regulated. Your rights end where my nose begins.

      Jack replies: As noted previously in another hub, this is the real reason why lmc cannot be reasoned with. Her concept of "rights" is that the mere possession of firearms by a person is no different than that person physically assaulting her. It's like she is speaking a different language from everyone else but using the same words.

      lmc sez: Keeping military assault rifles off the streets will def prevent mass murders. Then we don't need to haggle with the cost of trials.

      Jack replies: This is the second reason why lmc cannot be reasoned with. She simply cannot accept the truth that "military assault rifles" are not on the streets. She reminds me of the elderly lady who used to call my radio station every other day complaining about unicorns eating her roses at night when no one could see them. It just didn't matter how we reasoned with the lady, she continued to believe in unicorns, and probably still does now, 20 years later.

      I am sure the lady really, in her heart, believe in unicorns the same that lmc really, in her heart, believes that military weapons are roaming the streets willy nilly.

      lmc sez: You pro-gun? You pay for the trials and the emergency care!

      Jack replies: This is exactly why I posted this question on hubpages... surprisingly few people understood that I was mocking lmc and her crowd...

      "Should those who drink alcohol pay a special tax to cover the damage it causes to society?"

      http://jack-burton.hubpages.com/question/212473/sh...

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      Mike 4 years ago

      @Jack

      I would rather argue with the woman with deviant unicorns than LMC. I'm not convinced she just has an emotional disorder. I really believe she is batshit crazy.

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      @Jack

      Well said. LMC let loose with quite a rant; no facts, just a rant. Sadly though it's people who rant that are driving the anti-gun movement.

      And by the way, your point about being able to shoot off 154 bullets in 5 minutes with your six gun is a point that has been repeated, yes repeated and repeated again in redundant redundantcy, but the anti-gun crowd covers its ears.....these folks are 'deadset' in their goal of disarming Americans.

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      Alberic O 4 years ago from Any Clime, Any Place

      People don't know why they want some form of gun legislation. Is it for crime prevention? Or what?

      This is why many are stupid. However, I believe certain mental disorders should disqualify a person:

      1. Paranoid schizophrenia

      2. Psychopathy

      3. Anti Social Personality Disorder

      These are more than your depression (people who are depressed don't act batshit crazy) and 2 and 3 cannot be effectively treated. If you cannot have good judgement and be accountable under the law as a normal person, why should you have the same right? Most of these mass shooters won't be executed because they were diagnosed with one of these disorders-most have paranoid schizophrenia like Cho, Loughner, and Holmes. I may sound harsh but the reality is that when more of these cases occur, gun owners' rights will be more in jeopardy than it is as more of these people with these disorders buy weapons. They are not gonna be held accountable as you and I for the same crimes anyways, so harsh punishments for gun crimes are out of the question.

      Now, your point about the family is well said and I would cover the immediate family. However, it still doesn't comprehend to me why an FFL dealer has to conduct a background check on a customer while federal law doesn't require back ground checks between private parties . If felons can have access to firearms, how we go after those that give them firearms? How do we make it harder for felons to get firearms so that legal gun owners don't get screwed?

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      WEll d: my whole post just dissappeared!

      Dang...it was a good one too!

      I'm not going through the whole thing again......

      1. Guns are a vestment of the phallus-worship male power thing. I don't subscribe. I'm more into the female love-peace type thing.

      2. If you like guns so much: why don't you deal w the aftermath of them? Go to an emergency room and offer to pay for the damage that guns do. Take up a collection. Same as the mortician...why don't you ask him/her how many deaths by gun-shots they do everyweek?--offer to help w some of the funding.

      3. your pols are closing women's clinics....they will be left destitute. Why should we as a society continue to pay for your fetish?

      You may think that you have the right to do anything you like, but you don't.

      See---your right is a deadly one, and it affects us all.

      We have the right to stop the damage as much as can possibly do.

      4. One gun/One bullet.......what more do you need?

      One gun for hunting/One gun for self-defense. OK fine.

      Guns for collectables? No problem.

      But a military style assault rifle that Oliver North sanctioned on the streets of MY country: thefugouttahere.

      You do not own America.

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      will you please knock it off w the lmc sez!....this is not Jeopardy!

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      how do you like hubpages, Chris :0)

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Wellllll, ole LMC is crazy, eh?

      "When white men try to divert attention from gun control by talking about mental health issues, many people buy into the idea that the United States has a national mental health problem, or flawed systems with which to address those problems, and they think that is what produces mass shootings.

      But women and girls with mental health issues are not picking up semiautomatic weapons and shooting schoolchildren. Immigrants with mental health issues are not committing mass shootings in malls and movie theaters. Latinos with mental health issues are not continually killing groups of strangers.

      Each of us is programmed from childhood to believe that the top group of our hierarchies — and in the U.S. culture, that’s white men — represents everyone, so it can feel awkward, even ridiculous, when we try to call attention to those people as a distinct group and hold them accountable."

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/white-men-h...

      ********

      Macho-camacho, Ahhhhnuld, "we can do anything we want", phallus-worshipping mentality!

      erm....Washington Post. not a "liberal rag".

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      Chris Spence 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Amazing. LMC i gave you a chance and you just continue to shoot yourself in the foot. You have contributed nothing but your own personal unrealistic rhetoric. Truth be to told the establishment is intentially pushing the race side of things to keep everyone at odds with each other. Your belief that it is the worship of Phallus is insane. Wanting to defend oneself and family from criminals and the insane has nothing to do with the size of my Phallus but the well being of my loved ones. You bring a religious aspect to your reasoning but you forget that it was God that commanded the Israelites to completely conquer and destroy the other nations who inhabited the land of Canaan, stealing their land and murdering even women and children to the point of genocide. Is this also called Phallus worship? If you "throw all the gun in the sea" Then would you want to throw the next popular murder weapon of choice in the seas too? If so then how would you cut your food since knifes seem to be a pretty popular weapon as well. Or how bout we just take all the cars that are on the street and drive them in the sea as well since they seem to cause a lot of deaths aswell.

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I can't shoot myself...I don't believe in guns. Thanks for letting me "spew" Chris.

      Carry on.

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      Jack Burton 4 years ago from The Midwest

      lmc sez: WEll d: my whole post just dissappeared!

      Jack replies: I've noticed the past few days that HP is slow about putting some replies up. It's taken about 12 hours to see some of mine appear.

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