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Hillary Clinton - Unaccomplished and Unqualified

Updated on May 13, 2016
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I'm on the right side of politics and enjoy a good debate on government, the economy, and the rights of the people.

The Question

Hillary Clinton claims to have a long list of accomplishments while serving in public office, yet most people cannot seem to be able to recall a single one. She served most recently as Secretary of State in the Obama Administration and prior to that was a US Senator. She also was the First Lady of the United States while her husband Bill served as President. With a lengthy career in public office American voters should be able to measure her ability to get things done, provided she actually did anything of value. Many of us have watched Presidential hopefuls stump loudly and proudly about what they are going to accomplish in office, but voters today demand results, not rhetoric. The catalyst to this type of thinking stems from the election of Barack Obama; a Jr. Senator who was an amazing orator, had a great message, but really had no track record other than being a community organizer. With baited breath, America put the first black President in office and waited for a return on their investment. Eight years later the Obama portfolio is at a negative value and America and the voters are in a state of turmoil.

With the primary season coming to a close, Mrs. Clinton has not performed as expected and her coronation is being hotly challenged by an admitted socialist, Senator Bernie Sanders. She has flipped on several topics and strengthened her position on others to counteract the consistent message Sanders is delivering, but her resume just doesn't back up what she says. Taking a quick look at her website should easily pacify even the most skeptical person, or at least one would think so. I’ve done just that, looking at her accomplishments and then offering counter points and facts. She lists her top seven achievements as follows.

The List Begins

1. Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting

This is what she lists on her website as her top accomplishment, when in fact it isn’t an accomplishment at all. It may be her personal passion; however there is no way to measure success or failure on the topic. An accomplishment is something that has been successfully achieved, so at best this is a work in progress. Hillary Clinton fails to provide any hard facts of where she was successful or partially successful.

2. Helped provide millions of children with health care

Bill Clinton attempted to pass health care reform while he was President which failed. On her website Hillary makes reference in helping to to helping create the CHIP program (Children’s Health Insurance Program) which provides health care to uninsured children. There is no criticism of anyone trying to improve health care. However the problem with her statement is that although the CHIP program was passed in 1997 by her husband, it's not something she can claim as her own. Being in favor of something isn't actually helping. A more realistic statement would be that she was married to the guy that that signed a bill that was drafted and passed by Senators and Congress People, of which she wasn’t one. Nowhere does it identify where she “helped” in the process. She could certainly come forward and provide documentation to America on what meetings she attended or committees she served on while working to forward the legislation, but again, she wasn't a member of government, only the wife of someone who was.

3. Helped get 9/11 first responders the health care they needed

This is another instance of being “present” while others were doing amazing things. She voted yes on a wildly popular bi-partisan bill which she had no part in drafting, or sponsoring

Flip Flop and Pandering

4. Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights”

This is another non-accomplishment that she is trying to dress up and somehow make it appear to be. Being the only woman candidate in the race, many feel she is obligated to appeal to her feminist supporters so I suspect this is her generic statement of solidarity with them. It might resonate with all voters if she could show some measurable results from her direct involvement. When the Republican nominee, Donald Trump says he built a golf course, you can physically see the course and play a round if you wish. When Rand Paul says he visits underdeveloped nations to work on the teeth of children, the results are clear and can be counted. When Hillary Clinton says she's spoken up on behalf of an issue, it’s really meaningless and does not provide any real change.

5. Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad

Hillary became a big LGBTQ supporter a few years ago. She opposed same sex marriage but changed her position in 2013, just as President Obama did in 2012. Making a change based on shifting political winds isn’t really an accomplishment. Bernie Sanders, her opponent has had the same platform for his entire career; his loyalties do not shift based on popularity.

Life in the Senate

6. Helped expand health care and family leave for military families

She introduced a bill while serving as a US Senator - S.3517 - Heroes at Home Act of 2006, but it failed to pass. She tried again the following year with the same results. In the end she voted in favor of another bill which had strong bi-partisan support. She neither sponsored nor drafted the bill, in fact Lindsey Graham, A Republican Senator was the author. Her version of helping seems to mean that she voted on bills as part of her job as US Senator. In fact, research will show that there are only three bills which then-Senator Clinton sponsored which became law and none of them were of any real significance.

S. 1241: A bill to establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in the State of New York. Bush signed the bill Dec. 3, 2004.

S. 3613: A bill to name a post office the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building." Bush signed the bill Oct. 6, 2006.

S. 3145: A bill to designate a highway in New York as the Timothy J. Russert highway. Bush signed the bill July 23, 2008.

In eight years in the Senate these three bills are all that she can lay claim to. Additionally, she missed 9.5% of all roll call votes while the average in the Senate at that time was 2%.

Foreign Policy Fiasco

7. Negotiated a cease fire between Israel and Hamas

Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State and yes, Mrs. Clinton did help to broker a temporary cease-fire, which didn’t hold. Other major events such as The Arab Spring and continuing turmoil from the Middle East were directly tied to her policies and the policies of President Obama, in the region. Most of her foreign policy in retrospect is considered a failure. Her efforts to “reset” relations between Russia and America are considered a failure, especially with the aggressive incursion Russia made into the Ukraine while America watched from the sidelines. If her idea for a reset was to start the cold war again, then she succeeded. The way she distances herself from her part in the Iran nuclear program, really demonstrates that she sees it as failing in the long run. The highlight of her foreign policy is a huge black eye and led to the death of Americans in Benghazi. Many Americans, both Democrat and Republican alike blame her for the fiasco and her part in creating a false narrative about a YouTube video being the catalyst for the attack.

When being interviewed she was asked about her major accomplishments as Secretary of State. She answered, “My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I’m glad you asked! My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn’t do that and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s a major accomplishment.” I’m not sure that says anything at all.

Summary

These are the top seven things which Hillary expects voters to measure her on. The fact that she hasn't sewn up the nomination yet certainly lends credence to the fact that she hasn't convinced the voters of her Party that she is ready to lead. With no clear change to clinch the nomination based on voting, it will be up to the Super Delegates at the Democratic National Convention to make the final choice.

Comments are welcome from both sides. Please be civil, don't hijack my thread, and stay on topic - which means no "but the Republicans do this...or Trump said this..." This thread is purely on Hillary Clinton's claims on her website and my research and commentary on why they are not of value to consider her Presidential material.

Blessed Be!

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    hglick 4 months ago from Ronkonkoma, NY

    Wonderful blog.... We need more people who speak the truth on this criminal

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    I (We) thank you & Owe you! You're one of the good guys. Too FEW around here. Have you noticed what a sexist group we have here? Both ways.....Men & women!

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Paula - done

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 20 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Donna Brazil? You mean the race baiting far-left radical Brazil, now running the DNC? Who said:

    "We need a new constitution: Here’s how we save American democracy from charlatans, loudmouths and the 1 percent http://t.co/klyPA1pMl0"

    This is what you have to be to ascend to leadership in the Democrat Party. http://www.dailywire.com/news/10117/7-things-you-n...

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    LOL! "faster than a Mississippi riverboat! Yes, she was certainly back pedaling & stuttering at the same time.....Unbelievable. I can't think of a single thing worse than out-right,bold, blatant liars...when the PROOF is shoved right in your face! .....RUSSIA altered Pedesto's emails????? How seriously stupid can she believe we are??! Amazing. A debate question, word for word.. OK Donna, no problem. We believe you.

    I also applauded out loud when DT asked HRC to "give back the money she tool from the Muslim countries that treat women & gays like garbage & then Kill them.!! " Yeah Hill, give that dirty filthy money back!! SURE she will.

    Ralphie boy...R U going to honor my request?

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    She was brutal - Donna was back pedaling faster than a Mississippi riverboat.

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    I was proud of Megyn Kelly for pounding on Donna Brazille even though Donna repeated over & over & INSISTED she did NOT give Hillary one of the questions, word for word, ahead of time for the 2nd debate. It's all in one of Pedesto's emails written by DONNA! Black & white! Words printed in the email folks!!!

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    DTMB......Hill was New York State Senator. I'm a New Yorker. I probably needn't say much more than that......except that we're very very glad she's gone. All of us but Chuck Shumer. We're sure he's still crying.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 20 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    How can you say that not a one of us count when Hillary made the case of her lifelong fight for the welfare of women and children? (he said tongue in cheek).

    I know whatever we think makes no difference when for what we think to matter we have to be in the vast majority but then between super delegates, the electoral college a hack media, basically a rigged system rigged for the elite what we think can't ever really matter. All it can obtain is lip service to what we think.

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Very good act of innocence, Brad. You've been watching too much Hillary. You know damned well you've been snarky with me more than once. Please don't play dumb. It's not amusing. Just DROP it, Brad.

    You seem to be shocked I finally said something about it. No where near as shocked as I was when you got nasty with me for no reason whatsoever. I'm allowed to tell you I don't like it, Brad.

    It's not important. You had your say, I had mine.

    Excuse me? I need help because I gave you a taste of your own medicine? Yeah, OK. Maybe you're much more like Trump. Try not to whine all week.

    DTMB....I've been saying all this since this fiasco began. I just watched the final debate and quite frankly, I have no comment nor opinion. What difference would it make? Not a single one of us count. If nothing else, I've surely gotten that message.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 20 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Paula you are so right on. "It's all out of control, off the wall, on another planet....This is no longer OUR country. It's not America, It can't be. " That is an emotion I can relate to.

    The country has been under siege for 50 years from immorality, corruption and fraud in government and the media, self interests, phony lip service to whatever ideological voters want to hear (on the left and the right), a dumbed down public school system and an indoctrinating University system, the vilification of law enforcement all qualities of a third world country, which is what we will become. There is no way to get off the path permanently because for every step forward we make the left knocks the country back two steps.

    Like you say we can vote them out but see what happens when we try. There is no one to vote in, who in their right mind would want this job? Because the system has been rigged.

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    bradmasterOCcal 20 months ago from Orange County California

    I would have to say emotional is in your rear view mirror. What brought this personal attack on me. You need help.

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    I've reached an all-time level of paralysis. I can't seem 2 listen w/o going into shock, view w/o believing I'm hallucinating or pinch myself & feel anything. Sure, politics is bloody, politicians R corrupt & it's rampant & perpetual. But, Jesus............

    We hear, "If you don't like what the government is doing or the direction they're going, VOTE them out & the better ones in." Really? That crap is more bull$hit than we can take. VOTE? You mean w/ our rigged system, all the dirty, conniving games, back stabbing, phony scenarios, deceit & theft, the fixed elections well in advance, all wrapped up & tied w/ a Bow?? Which "better" ones? Better for what? for whom? These videos & emails are from HELL!

    It's all out of control, off the wall, on another planet....This is no longer OUR country. It's not America, It can't be. Doesn't operate like America, doesn't feel like it or look like it and Americans have become zombies, robots (in need of repair)....and when was our homeland pulled out from under our feet? Weren't we paying attention? HOW did this happen?

    OH and Brad, if you DARE tell me I'm being emotional, I will seek you out, find you and demonstrate just how unemotional I can be as I rip you a new asshole....I've had it with your insensitive, unnecessary quips. I've never done that to you! If you think I'm emotional, take a damned look around you! Find me one person in a thousand that isn't currently beside their self ! If u're referring to anger, disgust, disappointment & fed-up, as emotions, that includes 80% of our Fellow-Americans.

    Never refer to a woman as "emotional, hysterical, pudgy or plain!!" Unless of course you're OK w/ what you get in return. These R the rules if U want a truce, otherwise I can fight a hell of a lot longer & harder than you can.( DTMB doesn't even deserve a second's worth of consideration. He's just down right nasty! I thought by now, you or one of the more civil guys may have spoken to him!)

    So, exactly when is our New American Revolution & where's the sign-up sheet?............. Debate tonight!!

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    bradmasterOCcal 20 months ago from Orange County California

    Ralph, FYI

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    bradmasterOCcal 20 months ago from Orange County California

    I saw this one before, and I have to wonder about many of our fellow Americans. Isn't is bad enough that we have had 28 years of bad presidents, and now they want to bring in the Queen of Darkness to make it 32.

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    Paula 20 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Try to view this before it gets removed. I know you will want to see this. I don't believe anything will ever come of it. Nothing has brought her down yet, I've come to see that nothing will, no matter how crooked, distasteful & illegal it is. We're screwed no matter what.

    https://d1sb17b1leotpq.cloudfront.net/rigging-elec...

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    bradmasterOCcal 20 months ago from Orange County California

    I take the word Accomplishment to mean that a benefit for the country and the people is actually working. It is not a mere action, or an intention, or I voted for something. I must be one the 1% that use that definition.

    Using my definition of Accomplishment, Neither Hillary Clinton or Obama have accomplished anything. They may have personal accomplishments, like not getting indictment for nefarious and criminal activities, and Obama may have lowered his golf handicap, but none their personal accomplishments have helped the country or the people.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Hillary is being exposed for what she is. The email leaks serve to remind us that she tries to put on a front, but is a bad person behind the scenes. A sick human being that feeds on power, money, and being a bully.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 20 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Oh btw it's been over 40 years since the Watergate committee she served on and Zeifman said

    “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer, She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

    and nothing about Hillary and lying has gotten any better, only many times worse endangering national security, lying about dead patriots, lying about emails, lying about pay to play (more to come), in over 40 years.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 20 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    RJ...Anymore? She never was... never, ever will be capable of telling the truth. There are accounts going back to her time at the Watergate committee like the book by Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat who called Clinton a “liar” and “an unethical, dishonest lawyer.” A tiger can't change her stripes.

    He contends Clinton was collaborating with allies of the Kennedys to block revelation of Kennedy-administration activities that made Watergate “look like a day at the beach.” Her brief, Zeifman (a lifelong Democrat) said, was so fraudulent and ridiculous, she would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

    “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer,” Zeifman said. “She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

    Of course she has no reason to stop lying. Look at the party she represents. All their leaders have been selected and promoted to positions of leadership because of their willingness to lie and to lie about lying. You can't be honest about anything and expect to get ahead in the Democrat party. That's just the truth. It's the party of lies and liars, they couldn't change if they wanted to.

    Now of course any liberal who reads what I just wrote is going to have the uncontrollable impulse to point to Bush or some other republican who they believe lies or lied, not to disprove what I said about the Democrat party but in some twisted, sick way to try and make a point like "they do it to so it's OK." I hope they do because it further demonstrates what liars Democrats are, because pointing to bad behavior of someone else to justify their bad behavior is a lie and no matter how hard they try, or lie, they can't make a case that anyone, any party is as seriously approving and practicing of lying and liars as Hillary Clinton and her court the Democrat party.

    Well there's a brief answer to your question but if you need I'll be glad to elaborate more. :)

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    Old Poolman 20 months ago

    I suspect that chronic liars like Hillary can no longer tell when they are lying or telling the truth. Their brains just transmit words out of their mouths with no regard to truth or lies. Most of the time they get caught they just lie about telling the lie even if it was recorded on video.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Taze - do you think Hillary is even capable of tellin the truth anymore? She lies so much it's no longer shock value to the public.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Ken, I don't think anyone here is going to say Trump is perfect. He's not the best candidate, but he's the candidate with the best chance of winning and breaking up the Washinton insider club. I'm in full agreement. Hillary is all abou Hillary, not America.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 20 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Well while I agree with you totally, Ken, in the pedophile court case there can be made a case that she was just doing her job as a lawyer being required to provide a defense for her client, however you are right that what is unquestionably disgusting is the way she joked about it and laughed without pause at the outcome in an interview without expressing any remorse for the victim of pedophile. But this is what you'd expect from a psychopath like her, just like as you say the way she treated the victims of Bill's sexual assaults.

    This is a woman who told the world lies about herself and her teenage daughter who was with her in the lie, expecting her daughter to back up her lies, apparently.

    Three Eyewitnesses Allege Hillary Called Aide A ‘F**king Jew Bastard’. Never reported by the mainstream media, were it Trump you bet it would be front page.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/three-eyewitness...

    Talk about Trump's lewd remarks, Hillary Clinton once called disabled children at an Easter egg hunt 'f***ing ree-tards' and referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s' while Bill called Jesse Jackson a 'damned n****r,' claims Bill's former lover

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3635882/Hi...

    Anyone who thinks the media wouldn't run with this stuff if it was accusations leveled at Trump needs to wake up.

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    Ken Burgess 20 months ago from Florida

    My first issue with Clinton is over the Pedophile she helped in court, a man who raped and brutalized a 12 year old so badly she was in a comma for 5 days. Someone she knew to be guilty, and admitted so in a interview years later. That to me speaks of a person who does not have the correct moral bearings, who doesn't get what is right vs what is reprehensible... or who is willing to compromise decent, honest, values for her own gains at the drop of a hat.

    To me, the worst most 'evil' beings are pedophile rapists... to steal away a child's future, their innocence, their stability and sanity is akin to murder in my eyes. To help such a vile creature get back on the streets shows the type of lack of concern and caring that I find deplorable.

    That she carried on in that frame, when it came to women raped and sexually assaulted by her husband, just proves the truth of the matter.

    A far second to that, is how she so boldly supported trade agreements that have cost Americans jobs, have cost Americans the ability to receive better wages, and for American made products to be more competitive here at home than those made in Mexico or China, from NAFTA to TPP she has ALWAYS been on the side of Foreign interests, corporate interests, and Wall St. interests over the American worker, and America's future.

    Hillary is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with Washington, she will do her homework and learn what you most want to hear, and go out there and make promises and tell lies... and then sell you and your interests out to the highest bidder... she IS political corruption, plain and simple, and the only thing that truly matters to her is the power and prestige associated with becoming POTUS.

    I won't sit here and defend Trump... I won't praise him and say he is without faults of his own. But I won't support someone so willing to sell out a child, or our children's future, simply for her own gain. The woman doesn't know how to empathize with you or me... to her, we are all a bunch of deplorables.

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    Ralph Schwartz 21 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Hillary Clinton is following the plan her and her husband have always lived by - "The wait it out strategy" - usually they could stonewall for long enough that people would forget, then if it came up again they'd say "old news." It's why she sits at home and doesn't campaign or do press conferences....unfortunately, with Guccifer and other e-mail hacks spilling out information left and right, waiting it out only makes her look guilty.

    I think if things keep going as they are, then she'll pull out due to a health crisis - it will be a grand opportunity to put on a strong face before the nation (I tried, but just cant seem to make it) before she exits to some Middle Eastern haven before being prosecuted. She'll then try the sympathy vote in hopes that public support keeps her from prison.

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    bradmasterOCcal 21 months ago from Orange County California

    You know I am beginning to think that we are just hearing HRC is winning, but we are probably just chasing a lame duck. HRC is not in any lead except on controlled media and their hubs.

    The FBI, and when I refer to any three letter gov agency, I am talking the top where the politicians live, not the worker bees. The FBI and DOJ are corrupted by president Obama, and why isn't he part of the investigation. The State Dept reports to him, shouldn't he have reprimanded HRC for what she did. Or did he actually authorize her to do it? They are also making a mockery of the checks and balances of the three branches. The SCOTUS has been political for decades now.

    Anyway, we that are not the left are following our own tail thinking that we are following the HRC.

    The MSM and Polls that are biased have made a race where none exists.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 21 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    What I don't understand is why Congress never referred her lying to congress to the FBI for investigation. They may say now they have, it's a punishable offense, but I don't believe congress has referred it to the FBI still.

    Just look at how HRC plays with them and instead of answering direct questions, changes the subject, infers implications that were never made and basically never answers the questions. She (and Cummings by the way) is as insidious as they come.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myl7HJjD6P4

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    Ralph Schwartz 21 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Thanks for taking the time to read and share your thoughts. I agree, she gets more free passes than any person I have ever seen.

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    Readmikenow 21 months ago

    RJ Enjoyed reading your article. I think you've got some interesting responses, but nothing surprising. I'm always stunned when people just dismiss her scandals and lies and falsehoods. It's amazing to me how people can think Hillary is so great. Good work.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 21 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    RJ, it's not blind so much as more like birds of a feather flock together. I wouldn't trust a Hillary supporter anymore than I'd trust Hillary. I know several Hillary zombies myself and they themselves are liars and have little respect for the law. Just look at the Democrat party leadership (corrupt) and the media (corrupt) supporting her, and they're not blind, they're helping her cover up her lies and crimes.

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    Ralph Schwartz 21 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Hg - thanks for being part of the discussion. It's sad that so many people are blind to her scandals and lies.

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    hglick 21 months ago from Ronkonkoma, NY

    Thanks for the honest hub. It's time for the truth to win out over propaganda and the emotional outbursts we receive daily from the left. When the truth becomes distorted often enough they actually start believing their own lies. Anyone who defends Hillary Clinton has to be out of touch with reality.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    I'm waiting on more from the DNC hack - hope for some to HRC that weren't turned over

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    bradmasterOCcal 22 months ago from Orange County California

    DTMB

    That goes back to my comment questioning the security clearance of the people that had access to Hillary's private email server.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 22 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    BOMBSHELL: Clinton Emails So Dangerous, Congress Does Not Have Clearance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxn7gmXi8LE

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    bradmasterOCcal 22 months ago from Orange County California

    DTMB

    I have AVAST and it didn't find anything.

    I watched it on my phone, it was basically what I had found from the briefings I get on my phone.

    Thanks

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    bradmasterOCcal 22 months ago from Orange County California

    DTMB

    Sorry, MP4 has been compromised on my computer

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    bradmasterOCcal 22 months ago from Orange County California

    DTMB

    My computer couldn't play the video, bad drivers.

    Anyway, the whole issue of Hillary's defense is as damaging as the lies that go with it.

    1. First she is taking "alleged" advice from a Republican, and ex sec of state.

    2. Why didn't she take the advice from Dem pres Barack Obama.

    3. Or even ex pres Bill Clinton

    4. Or Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright

    5. The private email server also turns out to be several servers that were replacing older versions. Supposedly the data from those servers was "destroyed". but how do we know.

    6. When you use a server there are various methods to ensure that data won't be lost. We have no idea about the physical hardware configuration of the servers, or the software management and their back up facilities.

    Knowing this information alone would tell you how well protected the server(S) were. We also don't know how the replacement servers were fed the old information, and what really happened to it. You normally keep it for backup in case the new system fails.

    The point is that we didn't get any of this detailed information, and we can only assume that the FBI made full utilization of their computer expertise in coming to their decision not to recommend indicting Hillary.

    This email server issue show wanton and wilful disregard for the security of the nation.

    Wouldn't anyone that had access to these servers be required to have a top secret clearance or better because there was no guarantee that only private information would be found on the server? She also had her lawyers look over all the emails and they found 30K plus alleged to be personal. But, what clearance did these lawyers have to make those inquires in the first place?

    This would also go for anyone including the FBI and the DOJ?

    There are a lot of ?s that may not have been asked. In addition, the NSA probably snatched these emails in transit. Shouldn't they come forward with this information, or explain they won't do it, or why they don't have it.

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Hillary lied? I'm shocked by this news.

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    Hey, guess what! Hillary lied to the FBI about Colin Powell's advice. Listen to this: http://www.dickmorris.com/hillary-blames-colin-pow...

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Well, the fact that you can and i cannot, is what should bother you!

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    I don't frequent the forums very often so am not familiar with much of what your saying here.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    You have no idea. First of all, i read the forums for a long time before commenting. And i read someobe named jason saying the only reason you get banned is fir personal attacks.

    But day one on forums, my experience w the clique began. I stated my opinion about bush/israel, and was told i hate anerica, hate republicans, hate jews.

    2women started following me around asking why do i hate america. Turnd out one of them allegedly worked for heritage foundation.

    But i kept speaking my mind. They sicked the troops on me. Always the same people harrassing, insulting, making fun.

    And theyd do things like this: one of them would say "you have no credibility with me". Id say"you have no credibilty with ne either"...boom, ban. 3 months. Someobe follow me around saying "are you on drugs?" So i say "are you drunk?"...boom ban. 3months. And im not lying when i tell you i dont even know why half my bans took place. Fith one they kicked me off for good.

    So imagine my surprise someone saying(beth), "im always geting banned"...how many chances she get?

    And imagine my surprise reading all the hateful filth coming out of some people with nary a days ban!

    And just last week, someone made a personal attack, the victim said she was reporting it, and nothing happens to the guy.

    Of coursr, it didnt help that one of the emoyees here called me a jew hater. Said i was an anti semite. But i guess thats not a personal attack on me. I guess cause he worked here, slander is ok.

    And then theres the clique. Maybe it is the felliwship? Get together and report en mass. Get rid of people they dont like.

    If you think i like seeing the vile things here about muslims, obama, hillary, liberals...think again. But apparently, some speech is freer than others.

    And btw, another hubber said once "where have you been?"

    "Banned for 3months and i dont know why"

    "Whatd you do, tell the truth again?"

    So put that in your pipe and smoke it. I am no more fowl or insulting than anyone else. People just dont like what i have to say, and make sure i cant say it.

    I was deleted by two people this week on questions, and have been deleted more times than i can count on conservative hubs.

    So, whos censoring the vileness against liberals and muslims? Wheres the liberal clique?

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Leslie - What specifically have you been censored from? I see you comment on lots of hubs and have never seen anyone stop you from commenting.

    You are obviously a hard core left leaner and that is fine. I often see you go after Bush and many others and nobody has ever stopped you that I know of. So what really is the problem? We all have opinions and sometimes someone will disagree with our opinion. So what?

    Perhaps if you used some facts to go with your opinion your comments would be more valid.

    Right now the right and the left could not be further apart on what they see for the future of this country. When you lean left what do you hope to gain by jumping onto a hub that obviously supports the right. Do you really think your going to change someone over to your way of thinking?

    You would probably enjoy this more if you stayed on hubs that agree with your ideas and way of thinking.

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    yes, yes, yes and don't forget case in point:

    The cow jumped over the moon.

    Little Jack corner sat in a corner

    Oh and who was it was eating the curds?

    And if you don't think these comments belong with yours, you are wrong. They just support the ft crowd (fairy tale) who are in charge in leslie's world.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    I wrote a hub on 9/11, giving tons of sources and credible people....people still call me tin foil hat.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Ok, so its ok to say whatever you like about muslims, islam here and not be censored. Same for dems and libs.

    But you may not criticize israel or the right, or youre gone.

    Case in point; corfulone and ahorseback.

    Can say whatever they want at any time and never be censored.

    And if you dont think they cry fire in a crowded theatre, you are wrong. They just support the pc crowd who are in charge.

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Leslie, even free speech must be balanced with common sense.

    For instance, try walking into a gay bar and loudly screaming about how much you dislike homosexuals. (Not that you do, this is just an example.) Yes you have the right to do this, but common sense would tell you this is probably a very bad idea.

    Many of your comments include rants against non-fact based things from information you get from some source nobody else has seen. You would get more respect if you included a link or two to the source of the information you are speaking about.

    Just my thoughts on the subject, take it or leave it.

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    So because you are banned for life from a forum you think there is something wrong with the forum? That could be, but seeing your comments and how you just make things up and ignore or rationalize the truth away on hub pages I kind of doubt it and would bet it is the other way around.

    Free speech doesn't mean you can do that and not have repercussions and the fact you can speak your mind anytime, anywhere else you want (like here) demonstrates no one has taken away your freedom of speech.

    So again you have been proven wrong, shown yourself again to just be making up things to support this persecution complex you have which is actually a straw man to divert any opposition to whatever you say from the facts to "poor, poor persecuted me."

    You are not fooling anyone, not anyone except yourself.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Im banned from forums for life! American view said it: "we have ways of getting rid of people like you".

    I can ask a question, but no one can answer...and its not because i personally attack people, its because of what i say and how i say it.

    Certain people seem to rule the roost here.

    Tick them off, youre toast.

    And its not you politucally correct republicans who dont believe anything that your people have ever done wrong, yet embrace any and all conspiracies against obama and clinton. You are safe. Its those who see things differently who are expelled. Just the other day, a strong lib was told you should be barred from here....and i see it as a warning and a call to arms: behave yourself, tone it down or youre gone. Well get you.

    Those who insinuate obama is the antichrist: jackie lynnly, savvy dating, colorfulone, sgt prepper.

    Those who insinuate he hates america, is some kind of usurper.....just about every right wing commentor here.

    But say bush and israel did 9/11.....you hate america, hate republicans and hate all jews. Buh bye

    I, lmc love our country for its ideal of free speech. Mine has been taken. As deputy dog used to say, "you know what? That makes me mad"

    And i will never stop fighting for those ideals.

    All men are created equal. We are here to form a more perfect union.....We have been waylaid.

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Leslie, where in the heck do you get this stuff? I have never heard anyone accusing Obama of being the anti-Christ either.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 22 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Bush didn't lie and claim it was a video. He didn't send Rice out on all the major networks to lie when Hillary knew from the start it wasn't a video, she knew Rice was lying.

    You can't post and ask questions? As usual you make NO sense.

    Telling the truth is not bashing. On the other hand you ignore the truth and bash with lies.

    Like if your version of the facts were considered fair and balanced hell would be preferred over America.

    Like you don't get to have free speech? I have never seen anyone deny you of saying your mind no matter how insane it is.

    I have yet to see anyone with whom you have conversed on hub pages say Obama is the anti-christ. Just one more thing you make up out of thin air. You really need to see a shrink,

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    You all believe all the politically correct stories. But not a one thinks things thru.

    How come you didnt accuse bush of murder when people died in embassies on his watch? And a lot more than 4!

    And all of you can post on forums and ask questions, cant you? So, youre in the crowd. The clique, i call it.

    Bash on any democrat, liberal, its ok. Personally attack, hijack threads, bicker, whatever. If you espouse the politically correct things, youre in like flynn.

    But tell the truth about bush and israel, see ya later.

    The worst is pretendibg to be fair and unbiased. Pullleeeeeeease!

    So, yes, you all are in. And you relish in keeping others out.

    First amendment proponents youre not.

    And those who pal around with people who say obama is the antichrist have zero right to demean anyone!

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    You just aren't in the "in" crowd - but then again, neither am I

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Ralph - I think I might be too old to learn a whole new language so I will just ignore the weird comments from now on.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    DTMB - I totally agree with you. You'll see the disgraced show up on corporate boards of Liberal companies, get cushy consulting gigs, and other perks until the Party is able to squeeze them back into a powerful position - what they won't get is access to e-mail. I expect carrier pigeons to come back into vogue for the DNC to send messages - or maybe just good old fashioned face to face conversations.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    OP - It is Leslie commenting - I usually only understand about half of what she writes as she tends to abbreviate in Liberal-speak, a language which is foreign to me and most of the people who read my work.

    Notice how she does try to put something trivial (football) as her lead but then minimizes that little "e-mail" incident as if its of no importance. That's the way Liberals think - they aggrandize the infantile topics while trying to convince Americans that the real issues are no big deal. What's amazing is that their sheeple voters go for it.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Brad - spot on commentary

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Who the hell is dumpy? Why don't you just use real names so we would know who you were ranting about.

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    bradmasterOCcal 22 months ago from Orange County California

    lovemychris

    What have the Clintons sacrificed other than the lives of others.

    The Clintons were against the Vietnam War, but Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War, then she voted to get the troops out, so that Khan's son's death was for naught. It also created ISIL without the troops in Iraq.

    Of the lives lost in Benghazi, Sec of State Clinton says" their Dead so who cares"

    She created the conditions in Libya that caused the Benghazi attack and deaths of the Ambassador.

    Does one Muslim American death give free passage to hundreds of thousands of unvetted Muslim Immigrants? NO

    In 2009, a Muslim American Major in Fort Hood, OK killed and wounded people there as a terrorist.

    He was an American and in the army and in the country and he killed American soldiers. In the hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants how many terrorists are acceptable to get into the US?

    Hillary Clinton flat out lied about the emails and Benghazi as sec of state. Trump is not in the government, so there is no comparison to be made. Clinton's lies are a matter of record, what do you have on Trump?

    Clinton has zero accomplishments and she spent the last two years as senator campaigning for the presidency, which she couldn't even beat senator Barack Obama as the democratic nominee. And he had less experience than she did, as he also spent his last two years as senator campaigning for the presidency.

    There are no valid arguments possible for making Hillary Clinton qualified for the presidency. NONE

    Crooked Hillary Lying Hillary Crying Hillary.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Well, dumpy and putin are bff's, so maybe he can tell us all about it.

    As soon as he explains his lie about the nfl. Tells us about his huge sacrifuce like losing a child. Explain why an athlete wasnt fit for vietnam, etc. Etc

    But of course, the right wing media is stuck on e mails, and dumpy said she slaughtered americans in benghazi. But many more americans died in embassy attacks under bushbo and reaguns....so you see, dumpy has zero integrity. Or courage. Or honesty. And the rnc knows it. Waiting for the psychopants to catch up.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 22 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Ralph, oh yes they can ridicule anyone's religious beliefs, they do it all the time, they just can't get caught doing it. But hey, how much you want to bet those removed wind up in even better positions with the democrat party in time, Debbie Wasserman Schultz already has been rewarded for stepping down! Their disgusting behavior is a badge of honor in the Democrat party, don't you know?

    Note, you don't see the corrupt media chastising or firing the reporters that were cooperating with the "rogues" at the DNC, do you?

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Just in - CEO and CFO plus others are OUT at the DNC over the email fiasco - guess you can't make fun of someone's religious beliefs and expect to keep your job - it's expected that all 7 people from Round #1 are to be purged. Cannot wait for Round #2

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    Old Poolman 22 months ago

    Who the heck are "Mothers of the Movement"? Never heard of them before.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    It's all the Russian's fault - Hillary said so. Data security is not her strong suit, but she blames Putin.

    Leslie - "getting something out of it" is the REAL problem in America. People who don't contribute with their Democrat Hands out wanting freebies - gimme, gimme, gimme......JFK is rolling in his grave at what the Democrats have become.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 22 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    The Mothers of the Movement, just another example of Hillary using and hiding behind people who have experienced tragedy to take the spotlight off her horrendous lying and pitiful record. Just another liberal tactic like using mass murders to further gun control, a gold star family to attack Trump, the Clintons thrive on using other's tragedy to further their personal agendas, like getting power and getting richer, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Yeah, hes unbiased. Snark. How about all the prominant repubs who are voting for her?

    Mothers of the

    Movement ring a bell? Ill clue you in:

    Mothers

    Movement

    This is the future.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 22 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    Senator Sasse Lays Out Exactly How Hillary Clinton Lies To The American Public Over And Over Again https://youtu.be/pp9QeynkMKM?t=113

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Yeah, but we get something out if it. Unlike simply giving more to a rich person so they can be more rich. Grand theft, its called.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Ha ha ha ha ha - the socialists in the Democrat party are the quintessential open handed people, putting their hands in others pockets as often as possible too.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Eh, potatoes,pothathoes. I didnt see any high minded republicans screaming lock him up about bush or cheney. No sanderites either....of course, they were still in diapers then. But you know, i did, and was called anti american.

    Well at least trumpsters have friends in the socialist club. Bet you never expected that.

    Then again, repubs have no problems with hand outs when the gloved hands are open. Gimme gimmee gimmee. How much? Bend over, ill drive!

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Leslie, I didn't know Joe Biden was part of a company which electrocuted Americans - Did he buy into it after Obama launched some of his drone strikes (well over 500) across the world?

    Funny how an electrical malfunction by KBR can be spun into a diabolical global disaster in your mind.

    Don't even get me started on the whole "secret meeting topic" - your girl and her horny husband were the king and queen of secret meetings - just ask Loretta Lynch.

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    Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 22 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

    How about this one! Just listen to this, if you have any confusion as to whether Hillary lied or not and what the FBI found. Senator Sasse Lays Out Exactly How Hillary Clinton Lies To The American Public Over And Over Again https://youtu.be/pp9QeynkMKM?t=113

    Then you'll also know in her interview with Mike Wallace just yesterday she lied again when she said the FBI found she was truthful! Gotta hand it to Hillary, one woman who can talk and spew lies at the same time.

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    Cape Wind Girl 22 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Hey, how bout the one where the shareholder of a defense company just happens to be the vp of usa, gets us into war, and makes a fortune on a company that electrocutes american soldiers in the shower! Chuckle chuckle

    Or how bout the one where a vp meets in private to discuss our energy policy....and does he meet with congress, or economists, or experts in energy? No, he meets with oil execs!! Guffaw guffaw

    Funniest part is all these outraged at hillary people didnt give a crap when the vp did it.

    Heck, he went golfing w a supreme court justice, no one batted an eyelash.

    Nice to be in power, huh? And nice to have selective memory and outrage. Hahaha, what a joke.

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    bradmasterOCcal 22 months ago from Orange County California

    That is priceless. It is like the two lawyers that were partners. One of the partners received 25 crisp $1oo bills but the fee was only $2400 for the partnership. Now, that one partner found the extra $100 he had an ethical dilemma, Should he keep it all or share it with his partner.

    You can tell how old the joke is by the amount of the fee.

    This story transcends the attorney field and it is SOP in politics.

    Only there, we are the clients.

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    Ralph Schwartz 22 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Now that's something that can bring out a laugh ! Thanks for sharing !

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    Paula 22 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    Hey Just stopping by to say "Howdy." and provide a smile.

    Three Siblings and Their Father……

    A father told his 3 children when he sent them to college:

    "I feel it's my duty to provide you with the best possible

    education, and you do not owe me anything.

    However, I want you to appreciate it. As a token, I ask

    each of you to put $1,000 into my coffin when I die.”

    One became a doctor, one a lawyer, and one a financial

    planner, each very financially successful.

    When their father's time came, and they saw their father

    in the coffin, they remembered his wish.

    First, it was the doctor who put 10 newly printed, crisp

    $100 bills onto the chest of his deceased father.

    Then, came the financial planner, who also placed $1,000

    in cash, there upon his father’s chest.

    Finally, it was the heartbroken lawyer's turn. She dipped into

    her purse, took out her checkbook, wrote a check for $3,000,

    placed it into her father's coffin, and took the $2,000 cash.

    She is now running for President of the United States....

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    Ralph Schwartz 23 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Now that Hillary and her cronies have shown they no longer care about trying to hide the "fix" I expect Trump support to increase

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    TSAD 2 years ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

    The CSP? Well the Tea Party is as close as it gets to a CSP. Of course that's not to confuse "tea party" with the Democrat tea party, which is a real trip!

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/8824892_f496.jp...

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    Ralph Schwartz 2 years ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    We should all convert to a new American party / the only rule we use is common sense

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    bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

    Both parties have failed the country and the people, But that doesn't mean that more damage hasn't been done by one side compared to the other.

    The US government which was the combination of both parties since the 1960s have failed to learn from the attack on Pearl Harbor to allow it to be successfully recreated on 911. It is the shame of both parties that the US didn't have a single defensive action against a 19 Muslim Terrorists. This was even worse than Pearl Harbor and did more damage, as it hit the homeland at its heart.

    I keep saying this but it is true. Neither party has had the solutions, but both parties have contributed to the decline.

    In the last several decades the left has moved the US off its center into political chaos. I didn't pick a side, I just stated a fact.

    Today our choices even include becoming Socialist, or should I say more socialist.

    As long as our colors don't run together the decline will continue. The Red and the Blue need to blend into a Purple. And the States have to be given back their sovereignty, that was usurped by the feds invoking the Supremacy Clause based on their distorted views of the Interstate Commerce Clause.

    The 10th amendment is a residue clause, and when the feds finish their meals there is no residue.

    The USA is not united either by state or government. And America is NOW part of Mexico thanks to the left.

    The United States was never meant to be made of silly putty, that can be shaped to the desires of foreigners who want it to look like their culture and their country.

    A bridge needs to be built to connect the two diametrically opposite political parties together. Congress was not intended to be composed of two separate factions, but one cohesive faction that has the goal of protecting the country and its people.

    In that regard, the voters have acted like sheep, instead of intelligent people. Congress is not a local high school sports team, it is the US government along with the presidency. They need to work together not against each other.

    That can't be accomplished with the current state of the political parties and their loyal voters. Both have to change, and the movement should initiate from the voters.

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    TSAD 2 years ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

    Mike, that is so true and I for one have always said the Republican party is Democrat lite, which tells you what? I tells you they are both of the same ilk basically. The question isn't whether both sides are rotten, I consider the Democrat and Republican politicians just one side, different degrees of liberalism.

    The other side is conservatism and there is no way anyone can compare true conservatives like Reagan with the criminal ideology of modern liberalism. Liberal leadership is corrupt to their core and what does that say about those who put them there? No exceptions and to try to point out, or make up, a few transgressions on one side as a way to justify the myriad lies and frankly crimes of the other is dishonest and a well known liberal tactic.

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    Doris James-MizBejabbers 2 years ago

    Old Poolman, now there's a truth I can relate to.

    Tsad, you wouldn't know credentials or truths if they rared up and bit you on the butt. Call me elitist if you wish, it's better than being ignorant.

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    Old Poolman 2 years ago

    Some would have us believe that while one side is pure as gold and cares deeply about we citizens, the other side is rotten to the core and could care less.

    The truth is both sides are rotten and could care less about anything but their own personal gain and more power. The majority of their time in office is spent in trying to hold onto their cushy jobs, not working on the problems we hired them to solve.

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    TSAD 2 years ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

    Republican failings? Bush talking to children compared to trampling of the constitution again and again by Obama, Hiliary (pronounced Hill-LIAR'-ee), a career of scandals and lies to the face of the American public, families of dead patriots, the congress and investigators for decades, taking money for favors as Secretary of state, the list goes on and on as you would know if you even read the hub pages you troll to try and support Hiliary just so you can cherry pick something you think you can defend her on, with a lot of twisting and turning of the facts.

    Of course you always start with, "I was a para legal for 28 years' or I dated Bill Clinton or I have this degree or that degree, as if that sets you apart as some sort of elitist who knows more than anyone who reports on the facts when all it does after you make your points is demonstrate how worthless those credentials are for getting at the truth.

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    Doris James-MizBejabbers 2 years ago

    Oh, Tsad, hit a nerve, did we. Not supposed to bring up Republican failings or crimes.

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    Ralph Schwartz 2 years ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Hillary is hoping you have forgotten her past....

    https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/Hillary-Clinton-...

    More fun - I just posted this a bit ago

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    Paula 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    MzB....I'll take your word for Bill's habits, since you seem to have the inside scoop. As for Chelsea~~I'd never heard anything about her or her language. However, I'm certain if she did have a potty mouth (Like Mother-Like Daughter?)....she would of course be smart enough to be a perfect little Angel with her teachers. ALL KIDS KNOW THAT GAME!!

    I was rather pleased myself with Bill's White House accomplishments, to be perfectly honest (I'm a long-time Independent)...I also lost ALL respect for him when.....needless to elaborate. The man has a serious, blatant problem. This simply cannot be denied nor covered up. He and Bill Cosby. Far TOO MANY women.

    The Clinton's began with an "open marriage?" Never heard that either. But this all helps me to understand why they're such back-woods Hee-Haws now. Wow, they've been morally bankrupt forever. There's a lot of nasty stuff about the Clinton's I'm unaware of. I really don't want to know more horror about them. What I know is more than enough to disrespect & dislike them. And sad to say, she is by far the more crooked & nasty of the two!

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    TSAD 2 years ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

    It really happened, but the democrat and media cabal want Hiliary so bad they cut it out of the broadcast and have a state of the art robot double (actually a modified teleprompter always ready in case, have used it before when she got concussion after Benghazi) continuing the campaign until she gets out of ambulatory care.

    But since the video was leaked there is already a rumor spreading that it was actually George Bush's hand on the gun. MizB, you have anything to do with that rumor?

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    Paula 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    OMG!!! Tsad!!! LMAO! I just went back to view the YouTube video of Bernie & Hillary on gun control!.....LOL! After I put my heart back into my chest & it returned to normal rhythm, I could not stop laughing! THAT is so awful it's hilarious!! I definitely have to send that on to my Liberal friends!!! Startled the you know what out of me..I did not expect that at all!!

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    Doris James-MizBejabbers 2 years ago

    Paula, I'll be the first to admit that everyone has a right to an opinion, but I wish they would check facts. Bill has never been a drinker. He has worse allergies than I do, and he also has rosacea, which is also an autoimmune disorder. This time of year his nose gets redder and redder, and I fear that the vegan diet he has chosen will only worsen it. I've been to parties and never saw Bill touch a drop. It was also said that Chelsea had a foul mouth growing up, but I work with her former English teacher who said that Chelsea was the most courteous, mild-mannered child that she ever taught. So I don't know how these judgmental rumors get started. I can't defend some of Hillary's antics because she never allowed us to get to know her.

    As I've stated before, it was said among the reporting staff that they had an open marriage. Apparently he never got over it, and I can't defend that either, but I'm not going to judge them. Bill was one of the most middle-of-the-line Democrats to ever occupy the White House and he left it with a balanced budget just like he did the State of Arkansas. I don't know what Hillary really thinks, but I'm willing to give her the chance because I'm not going to listen to Koch Brothers' propaganda.

    I certainly don't agree with her stance on immigration. I can't go for Bernie's socialism either. So whom does that leave, Trump? Great choice, huh?

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    TSAD 2 years ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

    Oh yes, thank you MizB, I forgot blaming George Bush for anything and eveything exonerates Hiliary, and any other conniving liberal no matter what scandal they are caught up in. Yes, let's change the subject from Hiliary, (isn't that what this HP is about?) to George Bush's serious crime of talking to children. You are a laugh a minute!

    By the way I don't have cable or satellite, haven't seen Fox news for years, but facts don't matter to smear merchants do they.

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    Paula 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

    MzB...You certainly know I love you too. I also admire your expertise as a journalist. The reality is, I have NO CHOICE but to love a whole truckload of liberals. I'm literally surrounded by them~(family, friends, neighbors, former co-workers) Phew, I had to learn to walk through a field of land mines!!

    The only people in my life who share my ideals are my 4 sons and one other family member (by marriage!!)

    HP is about the only place I can even discuss politics! LOL This is just fine with me anyway. There will never be a politician nor party that means more to me than my special people! I'll be damned before I would argue w/ them over such things. (A few little zingers now & then thrown at each other is as far as we go) My daughter-in-law's father has been known to grit his teeth and mumble...."Damned Liberals!"....and yes, I will say, "Amen," & laugh, but that's it! LOL

    I don't watch Fox news. I watch TV very little at all & when I do, it's for entertainment & relaxation. That would definitely exclude any morbid news programs!..........

    I do like getting things off my chest as much as anyone, so I'll end by simply saying nothing in this Universe could ever sway me from the hard core facts of reality that Hilary Clinton is a Liar, phony, thief, cheat, scam-artist, bore and the single-worst thug to ever run for office as far back as I can recall. The mention of her name, hurts my head, her voice nauseates me and the sight of her helps me to understand why her hubby is a low-life, skirt-chasing pig. They make the perfect couple from Hell. ( Slick Willie better lighten up on the booze. His red nose is defying make-up....he looks like W.C. Fields these days.) Other than this MzB, I think they're LOVELY people!! LOL

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    Doris James-MizBejabbers 2 years ago

    Tsad, let's don't forget the false face Bush put on at the kindergarten on 9-11. He had never spoken to a kindergarten before. Refuge to get him out of town?

    RJ, I think the present state of reporters and the media is deplorable on all networks with the possible exception of OAN. They just report the news, not banter nor opinions, unless they have changed. I haven't watched them in a couple of months.

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    TSAD 2 years ago from https:// www.consumeraffairs.com/ online/ hubpages. html

    When the liberals are blaming republicans or conservatives as being on some witch hunt or somehow being at blame for the practically daily revelations of wrongdoing, lying and conniving to cover up on the part of bad actors like Hiliary (pronounced Hill-LIAR'-ee) and this administration you know it's because the preponderance of evidence is not on their side. Just like when Hiliary charged "a vast right wing conspiracy for making up slick willie's sexcapades" it is all they got left in their playbook of deceit. Can't be a good little liberal without that playbook, right MizB?

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    Ralph Schwartz 2 years ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    The "buck stops here" only applies to Republicans. How many times does a single mis-spoken word or slip generate demands for a Republican to step down, leave the race, etc. Bill Clinton was guilty and impeached but he didn't leave the WH and Democrats thought it was just fine. Good call Tsad.

    Poolman - don't worry - I'm pretty sure Trump will be happy to dig into the many closets and pull out all the Democrat skeletons

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    Ralph Schwartz 2 years ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    MizB - journalism used to be a noble profession, but sadly in my opinion has diminished significantly. The truth used to pay bills, the truth used to separate the real newsmen and women from the posers, the truth used to come before political parties, the truth, well it mattered...to everyone.

    Politics, ratings, memes, and non-news topics dominate the cycle and the real stories and the real facts are there, but no one is paying attention to them.

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    Old Poolman 2 years ago

    I guess by now most have forgotten the huge Benghazi cover up blaming everything on a video. But just like the IRS scandal, Fast & Furious, Benghazi has been allowed to die a natural death and nobody will ever be held responsible.

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