Hubpages When No Hubs Have to Be Written?
Some questions that answer how badly Hubpages is doing today?
For those of you that don't want to read the two thousand words in this hub, then just answer the following question.
How can Hubpages continue, much less get better if they can't produce Hubs?
If Hp had thousands of hubbers, you would expect that the number of articles created everyday would be in the hundreds at least. But Hubpages doesn't show that result. Even the Forums are not created in the hundreds per day. In fact, even those forums that have hundreds of messages, turns out to be made be a handful of repetitious hubbers. That is not the same as if they were made by a hundred hubbers.
Politics is the most popular category, and it doesn't show the activity of hundreds of hubbers. You can check this yourself using the data provided by Hubpages in the Articles and Forum categories.
We don't really know how many active hubbers there are on hubpages, but we can infer it by its activity. If there were millions of hubbers, then your would expect that there would be about 100,000 active hubbers per million. If there were 4 million hubbers, then there would be about 400,000 hubbers active each day.
Using the lower number of 100,000 hubbers, you would expect some percentage of that to be reading hubs, and forum discussions. Then a smaller number of them would actually comment. In my experience, using my comment to view ratio, that would be about 10%. So that would be about 1,000 comments. Then we would expect at least 100 new hubs a day. These are very low figures but they are high when we look at the actual hp data.
Using the political category, most of the hubbers don't even write one hub per week, and many don't write one hub per month. While others may not write a single hub in an 8 week period. My point is that based on the activity data of hubbers, there is definitely a decline in writing on hp. And most of the activity is in the forums, and its messaging. And that doesn't take any writing ability, and it also doesn't generate revenue for hp or the hubbers.
Forums the home of the drive by writers.
The quality of the political forums is just as vile and rude as they were when they were simple questions. HubPages remains totally biased for the left, and especially rewards those that are clearly, and undeniably Anti Trumpers.
These Anti Trumpers have no PC, no filter, and talk about president Trump as if he was their mortal enemy. I don't know where the hp moderation team is but there seems to be no control over these people that write or message in the political forums. The acts of these Anti Trumpers are reflections of the Hp management. They are no different than the other companies in the media.
Looking at the activity, and specifically the political and social category there seems to be a downturn. While merging questions in to the forums should have doubled the activity. The activity for politics and social issues is the most active category on HubPages. But neither the forums or articles are doing that well. Looking at the activity, there doesn't appear to be a HubPages audience larger than a hundred or so people. Less than a dozen users are active for writing forums, and even less for writing articles. I even went to their Soapboxie site and it is also very inactive.
No one could possibly make any money with that kind of inactivity.
The HubPages death knell continues
- Politics and Social Issues»
HubPages Decline Continues now in Forums, and Articles
hp is biased and when it is criticized it attacks with their bias scores for hubbers and hubs. Hubpages uses bots, and meta algorithms that search for and punish Hubbers that write in favor of president Trump. And that is the whole point of this Hub as it documents examples using data from Hubpages itself.
The political category contains either the left view or the right view. For Hubpages to side with the left is classic bias. To not respond to questions about that bias is passive aggressive inaction, but to use the Hubber score to give low scores based on their bias is so Facebook and Google.
I would respect it if Hubpages just came out of the closet and acknowledged their bias.
Hp continues to have less and less writers and general underwhelming activity. I use Politics which is the most popular category on hp to make show the details. The data is available on HubPages, but you do have to collect it and analyze it.
I have included several of the metrics on the forums that show a mere handful of activity on the forums in the course of seven days. The forums are the combined retired questions and the original forum. Yet, there doesn't seem to be any increase in activity.
As hubbers, how do you view these facts? Who here is making any folding money?
How many hubbers have made enough in a year to actually declare it on their taxes?
Update March 2, 2018
Hp continues to have static and underwhelming activity. Once again, I use the most popular category on hp to make show the details. That category of course is Politics, and social issues.
This is a verifiable fact using the HP given statistics, as I have including in the comment section.
Hubpages is Dying
Where is the hub activity of yesteryear. Don't say it is in their Soapboxie niche, because that is as bad.
There is hardly any activity in hubpages this year. I know that they are being bought out, but still what do they have to offer.
A dead client list.
I am using the political and social issue category to make my claim of inactivity. But, look at any of the categories they are all slow to not moving.
Hubpages retired the questions section, and said it would merge into the Forums.
Hubpages cited lower earnings from the questions, and merged it into the Forums. But the Forums are as bad or even worse that the questions.
There are not that many forums per day, nor are there any real great discussions going on as well.
The most popular topics in hubpages is the political social ones. In the comment section I have posted the most recent forums. And you can see for yourself about how few of them there are.
To agree or not to agree on the title statement look at the metrics
Hubpages management has declared that 2017 was a great year. It may have been for them, but I doubt that the actual core of hubpages the hubbers even made enough money to defray the costs of running their computers, and network access, much less fold any money.
The number one topic on hubpages is the political and social area. This area has been along with the rest of the topics declined over the last year. The numbers which can be retrieved from the hubpages themselves are down.
While the US Stock Market has gone way up, the participation in the questions, forums, and articles has atrophied. To the point that hubpages removed the questions area, and said it would fold it into the forums.
While this fold may be in the works, the number of forums is dismal. And with that the participation in the few forums is also dismal.
The heart of the hubpages was always the articles, originally designated as hubs. The hubs have actually declined before the questions and the forums started to decline.
When you look at the Forum and Article histories for the political and social area, you can readily see the decline.
Now hubpages itself doesn't like hubs like this one, that call out some of its major problems. The recently announced merger, or take over looks pretty dismal for the hubpages community.
It seems like the future here on hubpages, and isolation because of heavy filtering of hubbers to prevent their migration to the new platform.
Is it really a quality issue why this hub is not featured?
Or is it simply that hubpages didn't like the truth, which can be easily verified with data from Hp itself. They have also brought my hubber score down from the 80s to 39 and for not reason other than they don't agree with my opinions.
The 39 hubber score is more of a reflection on the bias of HP than the quality of my writing.
I haven't updated my hubber score since I published this article.
It is now at 32, and was at 28 a few days ago
The Queen of hubpages
Apparently sometime today hub pages retired the Questions Section.
Note, I put this in the social category because it is a social issue that is at the core of the hubbers in the political and social categories.
- When assessing the quality of this article, remember freedom of speech.
I am guessing because there is no statement when you go to the answer section. It is obvious that the box to put your new questions is not there anymore. What it have hurt to put a message there that the question section is retired, and take your writing to the Forum section.
I tried to edit one of my existing questions and all I got was a cryptic message that something went wrong. Really, is that the best that hub pages can do to let you know that they are no longer supporting the existing questions. They were supposed to be ported over to the Forums, but so far I don't see them there.
Anyway, long live the Questions section.
The point of this article is to point out that hub pages retirement of the questions sections is not an improvement. The reason is that the Forums aren't doing much better than the ailing questions section.
While it is harder for the uninvited to get into the forums without signing in, once there the same environment exists. But more importantly the number of people in the forums is very low. Just look at the number of forums per hour, actually that would be 1 or a very low number. I am singly out the politics and social category. As this category has been one of the most popular categories. Probably the religion section is as popular.
My statement about the low forums and the low comments on those forums can easily be verified by just looking at the forum page.
The quality of the forums is not much different than it was in the questions section.
Once again, I am focusing on the politics and the social forums.
I was just looking at a few, and one of the forums caught my attention. It looked like the cyber bullying that I had heard about happening in the social media. In this one forum, it was a bunch of liberals attacking one of the few Trump people. The forum title itself was derogatory and personal to another forum user.
Apparently, not winning many arguments from this forum user they decided to just call names and make insinuations
It this the quality that hub pages and their "moderation" team were created to do at hubpages?
Like the Main Stream Media, hubpages has also been biased against the non liberals. It was clear when this month they started to seriously chopped the points off the hubber score. They made it into a personality contest, and when the more abundant hubbers that are liberals whined with their thumb votes they started knocking down the scores. I saw one politically conservative hubber have a score in the 80s and in a few short weeks the score was 17. If one was to look at the hub activity of that hubber no bad writing or anything negative would be found.
In the political and social category where this hubber did most of their writing of course the other side would push the thumbs down.
Hubber scores should reflect the writing quality of the hubber and not their public opion of what they write. Just because the main stream media does the same thing to president Trump and republicans doesn't mean that it it a correct or good thing to do here.
How can the quality of the forums be any better for hub pages if they continue to use Bias and instead of writing as the basis of these hubpages scoring.
The hubber scoring needs to reflect some objective standard instead of bias. How is it that hubbers can get scores in the 90s and even 100 and yet they don't write articles. They just comment, and many of them didn't even bother to create the questions or the forums.
Conclusion on the questions versus the Forums
There is no increase in the number of people in the forums versus that in the questions section. They bought have seen their numbers dwindle. Some many unanswered questions, and the number of views indicated a total hubpage audience of no more than a few hundred people.
This could be tied into the reduction of any monetary benefits of writing for hubpages, or many of the good hubbers have left hubpages. There is also the possibility that they just got tired of the hp bias for the left.