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The Keystone XL Pipeline is Bad for America! (Extra Special Updates)

Updated on October 21, 2016

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The Toxic Keystone XL Pipeline, carrying corrosive, toxic tar sand oil

When our President gave his January 20th, 2015 'State of the Union Address' and he spoke about, climate change, and he spoke as if he cares, about the 'State of Our Country.' But, then I received an e-mail from my friend Au fait.

An article from the New York Times which read.

"WASHINGTON — The State Department released a report on Friday concluding that the Keystone XL pipeline would not substantially worsen carbon pollution, leaving an opening for President Obama to approve the politically divisive project."


Eminent Domain--is this a way to steal private property for personal gain?

Update from, January 25, 2014

On the morning of January 25th 2014 on the radio, I heard a woman from Oklahoma talking about Canada acquiring American lands by eminent domain, and she and her neighbors are watching as the Keystone XL Pipeline is laid across their lands, and the workers on the pipeline are NOT American workers. This pipeline is all the way to the Oklahoma, Texas border.

I thought the President had not approved this. Am I mistaken? Did President Obama approve the Keystone XL Pipeline?

Then I started to research and found an article "GOP senators urge Obama to make decision on Keystone XL" Published January 25, 2014 FoxNews.com.

Who do you believe? The Oklahoma woman, who is watching her land taken-over by the Canadian Oil Company to lay a pipeline across it, or the GOP senators who are pushing to have done what is already happening.

Who do these (politicians) work for? The Americans who elected them? Or the Canadian Company that wants to take our lands, for their own gain?

Ask yourself, how does the GOP senators gain from the President's approval of the Keystone XL Pipeline?


Why would an American Senator urge the passing of the Canadian Keystone XL Pipeline if not for personal gain?

Ransom Demand: Defund Obamacare and Approve the Keystone XL Pipeline

Members of the 113 Congress of the United States Ransom demand is the defunding of an already FUNDED Obamacare (Affordable healthcare for everyone,) also the TeaParty Republicans in their ransom demand is that the Keystone XL tarsands pipeline have the right to lay their pipeline across America, but not only that, also grant them the right to take American's property to lay it on.

Tell Congress: the Keystone and the debt limit don't mix!


BP Oil Spill - Pensacola Florida

Tar in the Sand, the lines drawn!
Tar in the Sand, the lines drawn! | Source

Jobs

It is not a question of, would the Keystone XL would burst, but when, where and how many times.

The clean-ups: That is when it will becomes American jobs

I Thought Mr. Ryan Was/Is An American. Am I wrong?

Then

October 2012, Paul Ryan said "TransCanada's pipeline would receive approval on 'Day One' in a Romney administration." He told supporters in Ohio, "We need to unlock the energy we have in this country to create jobs."

Now

Why I think Paul Ryan is a Lobbyist for 'The Keystone XL Pipeline.'

March 12, 2013 Rep. Paul Ryan (R. Wis.) is saying the Keystone XL Pipeline will produce jobs, and in his budget proposal released Tuesday 03/12/2013 he proposes that the Keystone XL Pipeline needs to be approved.

According to The State Department's latest report it contradicts Mr. Ryan's claim that 118,000 indirect jobs and 20,000 direct jobs would be created.

Per the State Department, the pipeline could support only about 42,100 jobs and approximately 35 of those jobs would still be held after the Pipeline is laid.

The Pipeline will produce short term jobs to clean-up the inevitable leaks.

Source: Huff Post Green http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/12/paul-ryan-keystone-pipeline_n_2859926.html?utm_hp_ref=green

My Question: After you Mr. Ryan have helped Trans-Canada get the Keystone XL Pipeline laid and the production from said Pipeline that would be going through our country not to our country for the purpose of being delivered to other countries (as I have heard), how many of our countrymen will still have their jobs?


Got Paper?: Save it for the oil leaks.
Got Paper?: Save it for the oil leaks. | Source

Mr. Ryan on Energy in his Op-Ed Piece

Ryan's Wall Street Journal op-ed, piece stated that the Trans-Canada's Keystone XL Pipeline could put North America on a path to energy independence.

"First, energy: America has the world's largest natural-gas, oil and coal reserves--enough natural-gas to meet the country's needs for 90 years. Yet the administration is buying up land to prevent further development. Our budget opens these lands to development, so families will have affordable energy. It approves the Keystone XL pipeline, which will create 20,000 direct jobs -- and 118,000 indirect jobs. Our budget puts the country on the path to North American energy independence."

Source: The Wall Street Journal -- Op-Ed by Paul Ryan Tuesday, March 12, 2013 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323826704578353902612840488.html

My Questions:

(1) How is this possible when the Keystone XL Pipeline is not to benefit America, but only to get it across OUR country, so that the American people take all the risks?

(2) Why does Canada not want to put the Pipeline across its own country?

(3) Mr. Ryan, are you saying the Pipeline will benefit the American People, once it is complete and to a place where its product is to be exported to other countries???

(4) You said the administration is buying up land to prevent further development. Whose administration? I heard that 'people from Trans-Canada' was taking property from people in Oklahoma by Eminent Domain, to have land to lay the Keystone XL Pipeline, from Daryl Hannah on CNN's Ali Velshi show.

(5) Who will own the land TAKEN by Eminent Domain after the Pipeline is laid?

Daryl Hanna has made a documentary about the subject of the Keystone pipeline called, Greedy Lying Bastards.

http://yourmoney.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/08/daryl-hannah-on-keystone-xl/


Would we have heard about this, had it not exploded? This pipeline is not as toxic as the Keystone XL that will transport the corrosive goo across America with

If this pipeline had not exploded and burst into flames, do you think it would have become public knowledge?
If this pipeline had not exploded and burst into flames, do you think it would have become public knowledge? | Source

If Ryan forces approval of the Keystone XL Pipeline, What Happens?

If "Ryan forces approval of the export pipeline" the following will not receive review!

- the Ponca Trail of Tears which the Nebraska re-route now crosses


- economic impact of spills and construction on landowners


- risks of water with a worst-case scenario spill, a disaster that would be worse than the BP oil spill


- fundamental issues of property rights of a foreign corporation using eminent domain for private gain"

Source: Nebraska Bold - http://boldnebraska.org/

What is America's Future?

Will this create a tragic incident like the BP oil spill in the gulf, or will this be worse?

Josh Saks, National Wildlife Federation's Legislative Director, said in an emailed statement to HuffPost, the Ryan budget "[forces] the approval of the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline no matter its impacts to America’s wildlife, climate and clean water while slashing programs that safeguard our communities."

Keystone XL - Think it is Safe?

Exxon-Mobil Oil Tar Sands Pipeline Ruptured

Friday afternoon, March 30th, 2013, residents of 20 homes in Mayflower Arkansas were evacuated and a section of the interstate highway was shut down, when a Exxon-Mobil oil tar sands pipeline ruptured. This is the same type of pipeline as the Keystone XL pipeline that Trans-Canada wants to lay across the United States to reach a port for shipping to other countries.

According to KATV of Little Rock, the Office of Emergency Management's hazardous materials team has contained the spill and is attempting a cleanup.

The Pegasus pipeline network connects to Houston refineries along the Gulf coast, the pipe that burst is one of these network pipelines. The breach sent thousands of gallons of crude oil into the town's storm drainage system, and through a housing subdivision, and because of the fouled ditches Interstate 40 and Highway 365 had to be shut down.

Channel 7 News was told by the Arkansas Oil and Gas Commission that, Pegasus because it is an interstate pipeline has no local control, oversight or inspection. Only Hazard Material Safety Administration's federal officials from the Pipeline are authorized to inspect and maintain the pipeline.

If the Keystone XL Pipeline has a breach, who will be responsible for the oversight/inspection? Will TransCanada say it is your problem, America?

What do you think? Leave a comment!

Special updates: President Obama is interviewed by The New York Times

Update:

July 27. 2013 When questioned in an interview by The New York Times on the subject of the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline, the President was asked if there is anything that oil companies or Canada could do to help him reach a decision to approve the Keystone pipeline.

According to President Obama, the Republicans have said that this would be a big jobs generator, without any evidence in fact. A more realistic estimate would be maybe 2,000, out of 150 million working people. And after one or two years it would be down to 100 jobs or less.

President Obama said, "So what we also know is, is that that oil is going to be piped down to the Gulf to be sold on the world markets, so it does not bring down gas prices her in the United States. In fact, it might actually cause some gas prices in the Midwest to go up where currently they can't ship some of that oil to world markets."


Will a Canadian company hire Americans, to lay a pipeline that only benefits that company?

Do the Republicans really think that Americans would be hired to lay a pipeline for Canada? Common sense should tell Americans that Canadians would have first choice at those jobs. That is where Canada's loyalties lie.

The President went on the tell The New York Times that he would be going to evaluate Canada's contribution to carbon in our atmosphere.


How does Rep. Boehner benefit from laying the Keystone XL pipeline?

Boehner whines weekly that President Obama needs to approve the Keystone XL pipeline. Why?

How does Rep. Boehner benefit from laying the Keystone XL pipeline?

Boehner whines weekly that President Obama needs to approve the Keystone XL pipeline. Why?

I just found out that in January 2012, According to Politicus USA - John Boehner has invested in seven CANADIAN tar sands oil companies that he will benefit from if/when the Keystone XL pipeline is approved and laid. Please note that in his financial discloser 2009 no mention of these investments, but he did reveal these investments in his financial discloser of 2010.

According to the article, one would think that John Boehner would face an ethics committee and be forced to resign or be expelled from Congress.

How is this different from what James A. Traficant Jr. did, to get himself expelled from congress?


Up-date! Canadian Company wants to condemn American propery to take land for their own use and benefit.

How can any American Court, side with a Canadian company (i.e. TransCanada) to allow the company to Condemn a right-of-way through private property in America to lay the Keystone XL PipeLine, that has NOT even been approved YET, of/from canada's tar sands oil to the Texas Gulf Coast, to be shipped to other countries?

Julia Trigg Crawford, who owns the property, that TransCanada wants to take from her to lay their pipeline, plans to appeal to the Texas Supreme Court.

The property has Caddo Indian artifacts on the land, that the Canadian oil company wants to condemn for their use and benefit.

Source: The Associated Press, August 28,2013 via The Dallas Morning News.

A special report from Robert Reich

The 20,000-barrel spill last month at a Tesoro Corporation’s pipeline in North Dakota went undetected until a farmer came across it in his field. Three years ago, a rupture In Enbridge Corporation’s oil pipeline near Marshall, Michigan spilled 843,000 gallons, becoming the nation’s most expensive onshore oil spill. (Oil was carried 35 miles downstream on the Kalamazoo River.) Enbridge, the largest transporter of Canadian crude to the U.S., already knew of cracks in its pipeline; it didn’t react to the rupture for 17 hours after it was discovered. Over the past three years, 96 pipeline incidents have caused 41 fatalities, 200 injuries and $400 million in property damage, according to government data. Yet government regulators still haven’t produced promised rules to compel operators to detect such leaks. If all this doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the construction of TransCanada Corporation’s Keystone XL Pipeline from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico -- the last portion of which the Obama administration is still weighing -- it shouldn’t. The Administration should nix it, unless or until we know oil can be transported more safely than it has been.


1-6-2014 Tar Sand Oil Spill

Are they working on the Keystone Pipeline without getting approval first???
Are they working on the Keystone Pipeline without getting approval first??? | Source

There will be no jobs on a dead planet

Where do we go after Canada has destroyed our country, where do we go???
Where do we go after Canada has destroyed our country, where do we go??? | Source

Trying to tie bills to the Keystone XL pipeline or the other way around

Source

Sneak it in!

Sneak the Keystone XL pipeline bill in with other bills that are benign, the way that other TOXIC bills have gotten passed.

Remember the names and faces of those who seek to benefit from the passage of this bill.

The GOP does not take no for an answer, no matter how many times it is said! NO, NO, NO, No, no.
The GOP does not take no for an answer, no matter how many times it is said! NO, NO, NO, No, no. | Source

Extra Special Updates 6/18/2014

Did you ever notice how the GOP never takes no for an answer? Look how many times they have tried to overturn The Affordable Act (i.e. ObamaCare).

I thought that Senator Landrieu was/is a Democrat and is supposed to be for the American people. Did you notice how Senators Landrieu and Manchin are shown out front as if they represent 'We the People' when they are the ONLY Two Democrats (supposed) that voted to ramrod the Keystone pipeline through on the back of another bill that had nothing to do with the pipeline?

TELL THEM NO AGAIN!

How much of the Keystone pipeline do the Koch brothers own?

How much influence do the Kochs have in getting the Keystone pipeline approved?

After the Congress' 54 day vacation (is this an indirect Government shutdown) will they force the Pipeline through?

Does their "LOVE OF MONEY" outweigh their "love of country?

On Vacation till after the midterm election

These folks are already BRAGGING about how they will get the Xl-Keystone pipeline through
These folks are already BRAGGING about how they will get the Xl-Keystone pipeline through | Source

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      Terrie Lynn 2 months ago from Canada

      Thank you. I read your article and a lot of good information. But I looked at maps only a small piece will be new the rest is pipe that is already there. I was hoping for some answers or other safer alternatives. New regulations and safety makes new pipeline safer then the old. You have a nice day too. I wonder why they chose that route, would anything be better?

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Terrielynn, I am well aware that Approx. 40% of our oil comes from Canada, but my hub speaks to the concerns of Keystone XL pipeline that would carry tar sand oil to the Gulf for sale to other countries and this particular pipeline would be laid on Indian reservations and under our rivers that provide our drinking water and would require taking land belonging to US citizens by eminent domain. This particular pipeline is to the benefit of you country ONLY.

      Did you not read my hub?

      Have a good day

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      Terrie Lynn 2 months ago from Canada

      Please don't get me wrong. I live in northern Alberta and the main peice of this pipline already exists. Until people take personal responsibility, the problem can't be solved. We already pipeline, rail car and tanker truck. more then 100,000 barrels of oil into the states everyday. Through all my research the safest is still pipline. I too worry but consumption is high. I don't have an answer, how can we change if humans demand so much fossil fuel use. How are Canadians the only ones that benefit when we are suppling US demand. Everything I read says both will be working together. Even the crude oil is refined and some used for making synthetic oil.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 months ago from Texas

      Patty, thank you for the comments. I read about the lawsuits also, but I have not read much about anything after we adopted Chipper, my hubby and Chipper are full time jobs. I do have some information about the Standing Rock Reservation protests. I really need to do a lot more research.

      I am not surprised that Alberta residents are in favor of the pipeline, they would rather have it crossing our land than theirs, and Canada would benefit not the United States.

      Blessings and hugs dear friend

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      Patty Inglish 2 months ago from North America

      I've read where environmental groups filed lawsuits at the end of March 2017 against the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline completion. Have you heard anything about this?

      I'm finding more than a few residents of Alberta saying they are in favor of the pipeline, as well as a group of Americans promoting it. The burst pipes we have already experienced, along with the direct link to cancer caused by tar sands is all troubling. I don;t like it.

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      Terrie Lynn 5 months ago from Canada

      This is a good read. But you don't have all the facts. I am Canadian. It will be a North American pipe line, not Canadian only. We already supply you with a lot of crude oil. It's a lot safer in a pipe then it is on the Hwy in trucks or in tanker cars on a railway. Our safety rules are really strict here. There is a risk for everything. I for one want the safest one for everyone. And we do have pipelines here, so I am not sure why you say it's going in the USA and not here when it is. The talks are going on now.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 months ago from Texas

      November 17, 2016 another pipeline Bursts, endangering drinking water of 6 million people. I wonder if Donald invested in this pipeline too.

      December 12, 2016 The Belle Fourche Pipeline ruptured spewing 176000 gallons of crude oil into the Ash Coulee Creek, and this pipeline has a history of oil-field-related spills.

      January 23, 2017 a pipeline burst in Stoughton , Saskatchewan. Spilling 200,000 liters of crude oil onto agricultural land.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 months ago from Texas

      Today President trump today signed an executive order to protect his investment in the Keystone XL Pipeline and allow the pipeline to contaminate our drinking water, our lands and without benefit to the American people.

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      Shyron E Shenko 9 months ago from Texas

      I wonder if this issue will be brought up at the Presidential debate on September 26th or will it be kept a secret until after the election and only brought after all is said and done.

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      Shyron E Shenko 16 months ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for the comment, compliment and sharing.

      I think Obama said NO, but you know that if Ted Cruz gets any power, the Canadian KXL pipeline will go through. Cruz only allegiance is to his country of birth.

      Blessings and Hugs my friend.

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      C E Clark 16 months ago from North Texas

      Has this thing ever been decided? Used to hear about it in the news every now and then, but haven't heard anything about it in a long while. With prices down around the world, maybe they decided they don't need the pipeline after all?

      Sharing this again. Hope all is well with you. Take care . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 16 months ago from Texas

      Paul Ryan was Lobbying for this, then the NATURAL BORN Canadian, Ted Cruz picked up the mantel and is running for president to get this pipeline laid across America.

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      Shyron E Shenko 16 months ago from Texas

      This is a sad, sad day, when Ted Cruz wins the Iowa caucuses, putting him one step closer to doing to all of America what Rick Snyder did to Flint Michigan.

      Cruz is NOT a natural born citizen, his loyalties are to his country of birth, Canada.

      Have you wondered why Canada does not want to lay the Keystone XL pipeline across Canada? Because they know that it is NOT if but when/how soon this pipeline will burst and contaminate our land, just like Rick Snyder contaminated Flint Michigan's water supply.

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      Shyron E Shenko 22 months ago from Texas

      I watched the presidential debate 2016, and I am worried about the devastation planned by some of these candidates, the three who want this pipeline to cross the middle of our country. I had not thought about this before, if any one of these get into office they will approve the Keystone XL pipeline, then the property of our citizens will be TAKEN by eminent domain. And I began to wonder would these individuals benefit from GRABBING land from our country's land owners?

      I know Cruz wants this for his native country -- being born in Canada.

      Have anyone wondered why Canada does not want to cross their own lands with this Toxic filled pipeline???

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Patty, thank you for your comments. Most of the jobs coming with the pipeline will more than likely be Canadians that will be brought with the pipeline its self, but later on there will be plenty of work for Americans. But those jobs will not pay very much it will be jobs cleaning up the spills that will happen, not probable happen.

      Saying prayers that our president keeps his promises, signs the veto.

      Blessings and hugs dear friend

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Jaye, thank you for the comment, I really appreciate you my dear friend.

      I also hope that the President vetoes the KXL bill.

      Blessings and Hugs dear friend.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Ben, thank you for your comment, I really appreciate you. I pray that the President vetoes this insane bill our country does not need the tragic danger this would impose on us.

      Blessings and hugs

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Yes I heard that the Senate has passed the KXL pipeline bill, shame that they did this just to spite the President. That goes to show how much they hate the President and the average American people.

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      Patty Inglish 2 years ago from North America

      EGAD! Most of the jobs coming with the pipeline are very short-term, just a matter of months - with a return to poverty, "now improved with caustic-filled oil that causes cancer. "

      Mr. Obama, please veto this bill.

      A billionaire owns the trucks transporting the tar/oil sands currently, but the trucks can be cleaned out and will hopefully not leak cargo. The pipelines will not be cleaned, but holes will eat through them. Water and people will be damaged.

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      Jaye Denman 2 years ago from Deep South, USA

      I'm hoping for a presidential veto, which Pres. Obama said he would use if necessary.

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      Ben Zoltak 2 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

      The only reason the Senate even voted on this bill in the first place is because big oil purchased most of the senators! Boo dirty energy! Crank up the veto pen Mr. President!!!

      Ben

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Understand the Senate has passed this bill and the House will vote on it next week. Is anyone paying attention? Will Obama veto as promised?

      Sharing. Hope all is well with you. Glad things went well at your meeting las' night and hope they are going well again tonight.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for reading this again, commenting and sharing.

      I don't know how our Congress could be so naïve to think it would bring jobs to the US, or are they Naïve? Is there more to it than that? Don't the Congressmen know that Trans Canada would give the jobs to Canadians first? Maybe they will hire US citizens to clean-up the spills along the way.

      I am so glad you can charge your computer at your daughter's house.

      Blessings and Hugs

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      This continues to be in the news, one more thing for Congress people to bicker about. I read that oil industry people moved on and found ways around this issue, but not Congress. They're still harping on the same old stuff and wasting time which we pay them to do. BO says he will veto the bill if they pass it, so there's more time wasting . . .

      To let you know, my computer is charging fine at daughter's house, but won't at the library. Strange.

      Shared this hub again. Hope you're able to enjoy the pretty day we're having without having to plug away at something. Take care . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Patty, so good to see you, thank you for the comment. Either way, I am sure they will get the tar sand oil to market without benefitting the United States.

      Could this crude be the brimstone, that will end our world?

      I do appreciate you Patty, blessings dear friend.

      Shyron

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      Patty Inglish 2 years ago from North America

      I like this article enough to have read it again! I've been reading in some biz journals that stopping the pipeline will allow tanker trucks already carrying the tar sands to continue to transport the material to the Gulf. What's more, Warren Buffet is connected with the company owning the trucks. Big Business seems to win either way, but at least the stuff will not be coursing through our lands and leaking into water supplies.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for the comment. I don't thing that Ted Cruz will let the Keystone Pipeline die, he wants his native country to get that money.

      I am using a different computer, but My son has one he is not using and he said he will check it out and he will let me have it. Yes John and I are okay, he does not feel well enough to go to church, but he is up and around.

      I am glad the charity was able to help. You have a good nap.

      Blessings to you my dear friend.

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Since our Senate voted this down -- barely -- it would seem to be a dead issue now, but will the recently elected congressmen agree with the recent decision or will they try to resurrect the issue after they're sworn in next January?

      Hope you and John are both well and that you've got your computer back in better shape than it was. The charity that you helped me find hauled a truck load of 'stuff' out of here yesterday morning. Just a week left to get the rest of it out. Need a nap and that's next after I finish with this. Take care . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Ben, thank you for stopping by and for you kind words. Ted Cruz is ready to sell us out to his native country. Maybe he plans to move back to Canada. Wouldn't that be nice? The only thing is we would be stuck with the destruction of this dangerous pipeline.

      Take care friend.

      Shyron

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Patty, I am so happy to see you. I have missed you. Thank you for the comments. I really appreciate you.

      I know that the Keystone XL is bad for America, and that the oil is only for he highest bidder. I don't know what if anything we can do about this, but this article is me trying to do something.

      God bless you my friend

      Shyron

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      firstday for the delay in getting back to you, computer problems. Thank you for your comments, which are appreciated.

      The Keystone pipeline is not for the benefit of Americans. That is one reason Ted Cruz wants it to go through, he was born in Canada.

      Nice to meet you Rebecca and I am following you here on HP.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you my dear friend for your comments, up-votes, and sharing. I so appreciate you. So for the delay in answering you comment., my computer's hard drive went out and I have to use someone else's, hard to get use to.

      Take care and blessings.

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      Ben Zoltak 2 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

      Great piece Shyron, good to help get the word out, since the mainstream media can no longer be trusted. Very strange time, Republicans are all plutocrats and in bed with Chinese oil interests! No one could've predicted private American corporations would have bent over backwards to hand over dirty fuel to China's hungry factories. The Koch Brothers and other billionaires have sold out American to the highest bidder, at the price of our children's land, water and health.

      Ben

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      Patty Inglish 2 years ago from North America

      My Native American contacts tell me that the Lakota Nation is still actively blocking roads that would carry construction trucks and equipment for the pipeline to be completed. One group is arrested and the next group takes their place, then the first group is released, etc.

      The Keystone XL would carry only tar sands that cause serious medical problems and death already in Alberta. They also eat through the unlined pipes pretty quickly. Texas oil people want the money to be gained from refining the sludge and sending back oil to Canada, but just how much more money does Big Oil need? If the situation does not nauseate people, the tar sands will do so, before they cause additional cancers - as they do in the Alberta Cancer Corridor.

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      R Beggs 2 years ago from Lincoln, Nebraska

      This is an important issue and I am glad you are addressing this. Here is some information off a post I just reshared in TSU: The Rosebud Sioux Tribe will not allow this pipeline. "an act of war against our people"…they are closing their reservation borders. Here is my invite to you for TSU (it is by invitation only) go to https://www.tsu.co/Rebeccabe you will see my profile there. I am only hooked up to 1K people (there is a public share also for more people) so far since I only joined about 5 days ago. I live in Nebraska the pipeline will run over Ogallala Aquifer, we cannot drink oil. One post I read in TSU said the pipeline will only provide 50 permanent jobs. The oil is for China. You can post your article there. The best to you for your help in this situation.

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Seems this issue is expected to come up again soon and Obama has promised to veto it if it lands on his desk. I guess that makes it look like the Republicans tried to push it through since they can vote for it knowing Obama will veto it -- even if a couple of them have a conscience and might vote against it under ordinary circumstances.

      Voted up and sharing again. People need to pay attention to this issue.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, for your comments, posting and sharing.

      I don't know if Obama has what it takes to veto the Keystone XL Pipeline passage. Maybe the tar sand oil is really brimstone and will be the final blaze of glory for the GOP/the Canadian Cruz.

      I hope all is well with you.

      Blessings to you.

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      With so many Republicans in office after Tuesday's election, I expect the legislation on this issue will be passed. Wonder if Obama will veto it?

      People need to keep their eye on this issue because it will be revisited once the elections are out of the way. Politicians love to pass bills people don't like when we're not looking.

      Posting this on FB, and sharing on HP.

      Glad all is well with you and John. Have a good week, and God Bless . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, my dear friend thank you for your comment, pinning to AH, posting on FB, and sharing on HP.

      I am afraid that the Keystone Pipeline will be approved also, I know it will if the party of no to anything President Obama want's to accompolish, get back in office and get control.

      Not a bad weekend, John is watching football and I am on here.

      I hope your week will be pleasant and cool for you. But then maybe your driver will turn on the heat.

      Blessings my dear friend and have a good week.

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Congress needs their vacation for campaigning for themselves or friends who are up for re-election. Lots of things are being left until after midterms in hopes of not offending the electorate. This is true for both parties. The Keystone Pipeline is one of those things being left until after the midterms. It won't be much longer and election day will be over. Wonder what they will do on this issue then? I think it will be approved. :(

      Pinning again to AH, posting on FB, and sharing on HP.

      Hope you're (both) having a great weekend. I was up in the wee hours and off to the laundromat. Yesterday was such a nice cool, cloudy day. Loved it! Wish we could have more of those. Take care and God bless . . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for this information, I have updated this hub with some questions, not only about the Kochs, but about the congress 54 day vacation (or is this an unofficial Government shutdown?) until after the mid-term elections.

      Thank you for the comment, good wishes, up votes and sharing.

      Bless you always.

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Did you know this? "The Koch Brothers would be the single largest beneficiary of the Keystone XL Pipeline, because they own much of the refining capacity at the end of the pipeline in Texas. They stand to make billions if the pipeline is approved," which it all but certainly will be once the coming elections are over.

      I like Obama, but first and foremost like all politicians, he's in it for his own benefit. I believe he will sign this bill into law within a few weeks or months after the November election.

      Voted up and awesome! Hope you and John are having a great Sabbath and taking a rest.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Thank you wrenchBiscuit, yes it does make me nauseous and angry. And the bone thrown to taxpayers once in a while they make sure it is meatless before being thrown or else they will take it back.

      Yes we are in for a bumpy ride, this go around.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you my dear friend for the pinning and sharing and you comment. Isn't it strange how people forget. Gonna send you Doonesbury when I scan it, It is really good this week.

      It was nice talking to you also. I hope you had a good night.

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      Ronnie wrenchBiscuit 2 years ago

      Nice article! Don't greed make you nauseous? The money decides the vote. They throw the taxpayers a bone once and a while, but the big ticket items, like this one, are decided by the ruling class. The taxpayers are out of the loop. There is definitely a confrontation coming. I missed the 60's but I'm ready and primed for this one!

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Read recently that it has been determined that passing legislation on this is to be stalled 'til after the November elections. That way people will forget who really sold us down the dirty toxic river by the time the next elections roll around.

      Pinning to AH and sharing. Good talkin' to you . . . have a good night!

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Linda, thank you for your comments, thumb-up and sharing. I really appreciate you.

      Blessings to you.

      Shyron

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      Linda Crist 2 years ago from Central Virginia

      Great job of presenting the facts and educating those that don't understand what a monster this pipeline will be. And then, you continue to update it and that isn't easy. Voted up and awesome and sharing it too.

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, that must have been the same e-mail that I received. The Republicans are attaching a bill to approve the Keystone XL Pipeline to other bill that should be passed, but our Saving Grace is that the Democrats value saving our country from the devastation the pipeline would cause. If the GOP/Tea Parth have their way we may go up in flames. The Canadian company that own the Keystone XL must have promised an lot of $$$ to buy so many members of the GOP. The did not have to buy Ted Cruz, he was born in Canada.

      Thank you for the thumbs up, AUI, pinning and sharing.

      I will call you later today or tomorrow. Enjoy your time on Jury Duty - I did not know that a lawyer's wife would be summond for Jury Duty or is that if it is not on the same trial?

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Received notice in my email that congress has taken this issue up again. McConnell is trying to force passage of the bill and it's said to be a repeat of the fight they had back in May. Republicans are determined to destroy this planet and why not? They only have a few more years on it and then it will be somebody else's problem and most importantly, they'll have the money -- maybe for packing material in their caskets? Time for people to be paying attention again . . .

      Voted up, AUI, pinned to AH and shared.

      Sorry I missed your call. I was sleeping by 6:30 PM and even earlier on Wednesday. Trying to get ready for jury duty when I'll have to be up early everyday. TTYS

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      I just heard that the Republicans attached the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline to a bill to get it past, and the democrats voted against the bill because of it, a bill they would have otherwise voted for.

      When are they going to be called out on this???

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Suzanne, I have missed you on here my friend.

      Thank you for you comments, you are so appreciated. You are right Ted Cruz' loyalties lie with the country where he was born.

      The tea baggers do not care about anyone but themselves.

      http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?p... this one does not work.

      The other one is okay

      Blessings to you my friend and Ray

      Shyron

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      justmesuzanne 3 years ago from Texas

      Ted Cruz is neither a Texan nor an American. He is a Canadian bent on overthrowing our government and enriching himself at the expense of We the People. He is unfit and unqualified to serve We the People.

      Write your representative in congress and those you admire urging them to expel Ted Cruz!

      "Under Article I, Section 5, clause 2, of the Constitution, a Member of Congress may be removed from office before the normal expiration of his or her constitutional term by an “expulsion” from

      the Senate (if a Senator) or from the House of Representatives (if a Representative) upon a formal vote on a resolution agreed to by two-thirds of the Members of that body present and voting.

      While there are no specific grounds for an expulsion expressed in the Constitution, expulsion actions in both the House and the Senate have generally concerned cases of perceived disloyalty to the United States"

      http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?p...

      Expulsion and Censure

      http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common...

      willful failure to discharge one’s duty as a public official.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, my dear friend, I really appreciate your reading this again.

      President Obama has not approved the Keystone XL, but the Republican Congress continues to try to "ram-rod" this through. How do they benefit? Our country does not benefit.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Larry, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.

      As I said in this article, our country does not benefit, in the least. And don't think Americans would be hired to lay the pipeline. This would only provide jobs for Canidans.

      BTW, Ted Cruz is a Canidan.

      President Obama has not approved the Keystone XL, but the Republican Congress continues to try to "ram-rod" this through. How do they benefit? Our country does not benefit.

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      LAURENS WRIGHT 3 years ago

      I keep hearing it said that the US needs this pipe line. Think of where the oil will be going and who will be getting the profits. If this would benefit the US, don't you think that the pipeline would be built right over the US/Canadian border? This oil will be going to other nations. As far as jobs, have you ever seen how these pipes are put into the ground? The machinery does the job, with very few people involved. This Keystone pipeline is only for the elite and the super rich to get richer, not to help the US.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Wondering again what is going on with this issue. I still think it's a done deal and that is most unfortunate. It will probably come out when BO leaves office so there will be less backlash.

      Voted up and AUI, sharing, pinning to AH. Such an important issue I really hope it hasn't been swept under the rug.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, I forgot to thank you for your comment, votes and sharing, so thank you.

      It just makes my blood boil, that this intelligent woman, Senator Landrieu, does not know when she has been oiled or did she get paid enough that she does not care.

      We need Senators and Congressmen that care about OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PEOPLE.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thank you for your comment, I hope less greedy heads rule on this.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Alexander Pourbaix of Trans Canada in a video has snowed/bought Mary Landrieu (D) LA (she should be a Republican). Are tar sands the "cleanest barrel of oil produced in North America," as Senator Mary Landrieu claims? I wonder is she got paid enough to flee the country after it is destroyed by the Keystone pipeline?

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Sadly you maybe correct, Au fait.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      I haven't heard any news about this lately, and when the government is that quiet about something it's just like a child -- you have to wonder what they're up to. The times when the government is quietest is when they're doing something behind our backs that they don't want us to know about. Seems to me this is a done deal except for a few minor formalities.

      Voted up, UIA, and sharing.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Glenda for stopping by

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      Glenda 3 years ago

      This. Sure is scary...

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thank you so much for this link. I try to keep up with this, but when the weather is nice, we have to keep everything working yard work that is. I really appreciate you.

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Here is a clip of where we are with this damn project.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmOQqRw0j4

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for your comment, sorry but it has taken me a year to say thank you for your comment. It just might take another to get the Post Comment to work. What is going on with this site, are they trying to scare everyone away? It is working (chasing everybody away, I mean)

      Thanks again for the comments.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Came back to pin this again. Already pinned to my "Politics" board, but decided to put it on my "Current Events' board too, since it really is an ongoing thing, or so it seems. There was no PIN button, but I found a way to Pin this hub anyway.

      Have the techi geeks gone off to Bubblews too? Along with many of the good writers that used to be here? This site works so badly the last several days, more than a week, that it almost seems like politicians are running it and maintaining it instead of the techi guys.

      There are no share buttons showing. Takes at least 2-3 minutes to load a hub, and even longer to load the feed page. Loading a profile page takes forever too. Takes ages and ages (I'm at least a year older now since I tried to get past the main entry page here on HP), to get through the sign-in page or beyond once that finally works.

      I don't have this trouble with any other website I go to, so I have to think this site has some big problems. Makes it hard to publish a new hub or to respond to comments. Won't let me vote either. Every time I try the page jumps up to the top and no vote is registered. I tried.

      I've been trying for 10 minutes to get it to let me post this comment! If readers have a tenth of the trouble getting a hub to open that I'm having, no wonder all of our traffic is dropping!

      021514

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Bill, I just hope they woke up in time. No only is the pipeline bad for america, it is good for Canada, it will provide jobs "FOR CANADIANS," the pipeline when laid gives Canada posission of the land it crosses, so they can get "CANADA'S TOXIC OIL" to market.

      Sorry, I can't get off the soap box on this one, it is too important to all Americans, whether they know it or not, even the ones who are for the pipeline.

      Thank you Bill, I appreciate you and your comments.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Jaye, I appreciate you, more than you know, and thank you for telling me about the link, and for sharing this hub. I just hope that somehow this reaches the president. I emailed the link to everyone I know.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Wow! You woke people up with this one. Pipelines good for America? I don't think so....oh, that's right, we can just trade an economic gain for the environment....no sweat....there will always be water, right? There will always be clean air, right? Just fill up those gas tanks and don't worry about it. The short-sighted vision of some people drives me crazy.

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      Jaye Denman 3 years ago from Deep South, USA

      Thanks for the link to the petition, Shyron. I'm sharing this hub again.

      I appreciate your friendship as well....Take care, Jaye

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for you continued support of this important issue. I hope everyone will go the the link and sign the petition asking the President not to okay this pipeline.

      Thank you for the vote and sharing

      I hope you watched the video on here it is so awesome. It shows our world coming alive and then dying.

      That is what the pipeline will do to our world/country.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      This is such an important issue and so well written and informed that I want to share it still again. The president hasn't signed the OK yet so far as I know, and there is still time to try to influence his decision for those people who care about our environment.

      Appreciate your shining a light on this issue that so many people seem to have already forgotten about in order to move on to the important issue of whether or not we should deport the Bieber (also Canadian). Yes, being sarcastic.

      Let's keep the Bieber and deport the pipeline!

      Voted up and awesome and sharing again!

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Jaye, I did not know about signing the petition until you told me about it. I will also read Rising Seas. If you watched the video on this hub, it would break your heart to see what is happening to our world. I cannot believe, but you can see it. I also put a link to the petition in this hub. I am so greatful that you told me about it.

      God bless you Jaye and thank you for being my friend!

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      Jaye Denman 3 years ago from Deep South, USA

      Thanks for signing the petition, Shyron. The ignorance of people who deny climate change never ceases to amaze me. They remind me of an elderly relative who watched the TV news when astronaut John Glenn walk on the moon and insisted it was fake--a trick on Americans that was filmed on a movie lot!

      Anyone who denies the reality of climate change should read the September 2013 National Geographic article (available online) "Rising Seas." The damage has already been done due to those who refuse to believe scientific evidence. This earth is already harmed from our selfish overuse of fossil fuel, and that damage is irreversible. The article warns that even if we stopped burning ALL fossil fuels right now, existing greenhouse gases would continue to warm the earth for centuries to come. Because of apathy, future generations will suffer from a hotter world and rising seas. Those "future generations" mean our grandchildren and their grandchildren.

      Jaye

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Jaye, I just signed.

      http://act.credoaction.com/sign/grijalva_letter

      Republicans in the House are gearing up for yet another symbolic vote to force approval of Keystone XL.

      Of course, Keystone XL is President Obama’s decision – not the climate deniers who make up a majority of our Congress – but we know that he is sensitive to pressure from Congress as he considers his decision.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Jaye, I will be doing that as soon as I finish typing this.

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      Jaye Denman 3 years ago from Deep South, USA

      Anyone who wants to sign a petition voicing resistance against the Keystone XL Pipeline can find one at credo dot com.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      I know the President must know that it not right to approve this pipeline.

      All that I can do is hope that all who read this will tell Our President not sell our country out.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Sent you an email a few minutes ago regarding this issue. People need to brace for the president's approval because it appears to be imminent.

      Sharing this again. Hope all is well with you and John . .

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      maab30, I don't know. The woman on the radio, said that she and her neighbors tried to fight it and they lost the fight. That is just not right, that is why I keep on writing about this.

      Thank you for reading and commenting.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for your continued support on this. I have been trying to keep this up to date, but so much is kept secret and you don't know who is taking money under the table on this.

      It is possible that the woman on the radio was talking about the extension of the already existing XL pipeline, but from what I could gather she was talking about the new one. What I do believe is that this pipeline whether it is an extension or a new one, is BAD for America.

      And I also believe the bickering is a distraction, so the foxes can sneak into the hen house to do their dirty deeds.

      Thank you for the votes up, and pinning and sharing.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      This is such an important issue and I applaud you for keeping us up to date on what is going on with it. I just read in the following in the New York Times earlier today (article is 2 days old) : "Keystone XL — the XL stands for express line — would be a shortcut to the Gulf of Mexico as well as an extension of TransCanada’s existing Keystone pipeline, which runs from Alberta to Nebraska, with small branches to Illinois and Oklahoma. Keystone XL would be a far more direct route across the United States," (Sarah Wheaton).

      Is it possible that the woman on the radio was talking about the extension of the already existing XL pipeline? Even that requires the approval of the president from the sound of it. It seems so strange that this construction is going on if approval of the president is required but not yet given.

      I've said for years that all the bickering and scandals are really just distractions to keep the American public bickering amongst themselves while the real dirty work is being done where they aren't paying attention.

      Voted up and awesome and useful. Pinned to Awesome HubPages and of course, shared.

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Are protestors out there?

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      I heard a woman from Oklahoma talking about Canada acquiring American lands by eminent domain, to lay the Keystone XL Pipeline and has been laid all the way to the Texas border. Is this without the Presidential approval?

      Because the pipeline is being laid near her home she said she could see the workers come and go and the plates are all from Canada.

      See my January 25, 2014 update on this.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, here is some results of my research tonight.

      12/31/2013 Jim Snyder, Lynn Doan and Bradley Olson, authored an article about a North Dakota train that was hauling oil derailed, caught fire and caused the evacuation of a town, and sparked a renewed debate about the safety of the Keystone XL pipeline.

      Keystone would allow about 100,000 barrels a day of crude from the Bakken formation in Montana and North Dakota onto the pipeline through a link in Baker, Montana.

      The North Dakota accident is the fourth major North American derailment in six months by trains transporting crude.

      President Obams said in a June speech on climate change that he wouldn’t approve Keystone if it would lead to a significant increase in carbon-dioxide emissions.

      In November, a train carrying oil to the Gulf Coast from North Dakota derailed in Alabama, touching off fires. A month earlier, residents were evacuated from a rural area of Alberta after 13 railcars, four of which were carrying crude, derailed and ignited a blaze.

      In July, a runaway train transporting crude exploded and killed 47 people in the Quebec town of Lac-Megantic.

      The Dec. 30 derailment “is likely to flare up the debate on the environmental side of the shale oil boom, which could result in higher costs for the industry,” JBC Energy GmbH, a Vienna-based energy consultant, said in an e-mailed report yesterday.

      This is just a smattering of some of the incidents that have been covered by these writers. They write for the Bloomberg News.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for reminding me to follow up on this and for your votes and sharing. I will do some research and see what I can come up with.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Haven't heard anything about this lately. Since I have no TV I wouldn't hear anything even if something was happening. I just wonder where things on this issue are at and whether or not our Congress has passed laws allowing this or are they still haggling?

      Voted up and awesome and sharing.

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      Jen 3 years ago

      I don't think I ever heard if this was resolved. Do you know if this pipeline was ever authorized? Do you think Congress finally coming to a long term budget agreement means they are going to start behaving like adults in stead of spoiled brats? Do you think the Republicans finally realized that their shenanigans are lowering their popularity and their prospects for being elected and reelected next time around?

      I know I don't leave comments very often but I still like to read your articles. I really sympathize with all the problems you wrote about with accident prone children. You have so many good articles Shyron. I always have to come and see if you've added any new ones. One of our joint friends said I could vote on your articles if I want to, so I'm going to do that this on this one. Up and useful and awesome.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Hey Matt:

      Thank you!

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Hey Shyron:

      Here is the link.

      http://www.revbilly.com/

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30 for your comment and I will check Rev. Billy's website.

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      A greedy short sided person would lobby for this. Check out Rev. Billy's website in his effort to fight global warming.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Please everyone ask our president NOT to approve this dangerous unbeneficial pipeline, to Not allow the company who wants to USE our country and take our lands for their benefit only.

      What kind of person would Lobby for this?

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30, I appreciate your answering Au fait's question.

      On October 9, 2013 Journalist Ryan Lizza with NPR says there's one far-reaching, controversial issue President Obama will soon get to decide all by himself, without having to ask Congress. He alone can approve or reject construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, designed to take heavy crude oil extracted from Alberta, Canada, through America's heartland to refineries on the Gulf Coast.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30, I appreciate your answering Au fait's question.

      On October 9, 2013 Journalist Ryan Lizza with NPR says there's one far-reaching, controversial issue President Obama will soon get to decide all by himself, without having to ask Congress. He alone can approve or reject construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, designed to take heavy crude oil extracted from Alberta, Canada, through America's heartland to refineries on the Gulf Coast.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for your comment, sharing and awesome vote. I answered you question earlier and don't see my answer in the feed, it was a long answer. Maybe you have to approve it first.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Thanks maab30!

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      No the bill that was adopted was a "clean" bill. It was not in the final version.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Do you know if this was adopted in the final bill that settled the most recent show-down? I know it was in several of them that were being fought over, but was in in the one that passed?

      Sharing again, and giving you another awesome!

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Oh Aunt Jimi, I am so glad you are okay. Thank you for the up and awesome vote and for sharing.

      I know this is one of the ransom demands from the Tea Party and Republicans. And there are so many people who are out there that will keep right on voting for these whacked out nut job. I hear people all the time especially on fb saying we should throw them all out. That just means they don't want the Republicans to take the blame they want to blame it on the Democrats and can't so they would share the blame.

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      Aunt Jimi 3 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      Wanting to bring attention to this important information again. I don't think people realize this issue may well be decided along with other things as a result of this government shut-down -- if it ever gets resolved. Sharing again, and another awesome.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Another "RANSOM DEMAND" by the spiked Tea Party attendees is that this PipeLine that is bad for the American people, be approved.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for sharing this again. You are right it is still an issue, and Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada to a Cuban father and an American mother.

      His father was imprisoned as part of Fidel Castro’s movement to overthrow Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista in the 1950s. From a 2006 profile of then-Texas solicitor general Cruz by the Austin American-Statesman:

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Wanted to share this again because this is still an issue and it's included in the problems of the gov. shut down. People need to get informed about this issue and let their Congressman/woman know how they feel.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30 for your comment.

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      Matthew Abuelo 3 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Not only that but the oil companies fund their campaigns, heavily.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Do you know why the approval of this PIPELINE is in the RANSOM demand by the GOP to reopen the government??? Who benefits from this approval? Paul Ryan, is a Lobbiest and TED CRUZ is a Canadian, loyal to his birth country, not the country where he makes his mega-bucks.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for your comments.

      Where do we go from here, when the politicians are not doing what they were elected to do. I sure hope people are making a not of who is responsible.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      The bill I'm referencing would make the pipeline mandatory. New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/us/politics/hous...

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Yes, Paul Ryan will have earned his Monies for Lobbying for this pipeline.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for your valued comments, up-votes and sharing.

      How can THIS Congress mix the pipeline with anything else just to get a foothold, getting is passed. This makes me so angry. How can anyone be so stupid as to allow the pipeline to be laid on American soil? I can understand Ted Cruz being happy about this him being a Canidian-Cuban-American. (Ever notice how America comes last?)

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Did you know that last week's vote in the House to pass a budget and defund ObamaCare also included putting this pipeline through? Yup, if that bill passes the Senate, it's hello pipeline, so nice you could move in and pollute our country! Voted up, awesome, and will share.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, for your comment and help to trying to reach land owning American Citizens. If they are allowed to do this to a few Americans, what makes ANYONE think they would stop there. THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE IS BAD FOR AMERICA, without being allowed to STEAL any American citizen's property!

      I reall appreciate your sharing this. my friend.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      I want to bring attention to this hub and the stuff a foreign country is doing in order to condemn U.S. property belonging to a private citizen for their own benefit. Unbelievable!

      Sharing!

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      The 'Extra Special Update' explains how a lower court is allowing TransCanada to condemn American property to make a way for their pipeline to be laid across our country, whether we approve or not. Wonder how much that court got paid?

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, it seems to me that most people would rather read about cookie dough than read about potential disaster, even though thid potential disaster could be averted if everyone would read and respond to their state's house members.

      I really appreciate you for your comments, for sharing, your up-votes and pinning the, but most of all I appreciate you for being my friend.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Coming back to this hub to share it again because I think the issues involved with this subject are so important and that people need to know about them and understand them.

      The pipeline hasn't been OK'd yet, so there's still time to let out Congressmen know how we feel. It may not do any good to tell them, but at least we will have tried. Knowing you've done everything you could to prevent something bad from happening can allay a lot of guilt feelings.

      Also voting it up+ again. Thought I had already pinned it and couldn't find it on my board so I'm now pinning it to my 'Environment' board.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for your comments. you are right this is not settled, and probably will not be before the 2014 elections. Everyone needs to know what this could do to our environment.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      This is another of my favorite hubs that you have written. The information here is so important and everyone needs to read and understand it. So far as I know this has not yet been settled so it isn't too late to send a letter to representatives and senators voicing one's opinions.

      This would make a great HotD! Shared.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, for your continued interest in this subject. People really need to realize this is a real threat to our country.

      I believe you are right and I received an e-mail about another leak and I mean oil leak not verbage, but only in the email and could not find it on the internet. I need to find the email.

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      C E Clark 3 years ago from North Texas

      Haven't had a chance to check on this situation for a while, but I think I read that there's a big demonstration planned for it before much longer. I haven't paid attention like I should, just like so many other people haven't either. There's just always so much to do and not enough time to do it, which is one way to keep people from acting against something I guess. Keep them poor and nose to the grindstone. They're going to do what they're going to do anyway. Politicians don't seem to fear going against the people's wishes anymore. Maybe because our votes really don't count. Sharing again to hopefully raise awareness of people since I think this thing hasn't been settled yet. At least not officially.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for the comment and pin. I can always tell a conservative if they talk in favor of the pipeline. Strange that they don't see the harm.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      This issue still has not been resolved and I have read a lot of negative things about it. Only people who seem to want this are some Conservatives. Already pinned, but will share again.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Jen,

      The pipeline scares me also, but it seems no one but you and I are worried about it.

      I just heard on TV yesterday that BP is giving a lot of money to Alabama to clean up the beach there, and the mayor, I think it was of Mobile, plans to build a resort with the money from BP. The greedy don't care where the money comes from or how dirty/oily it is.

      Aunt Jimi, Thank you for the pin.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      Pinned this hub and 3 more.

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      Jen 4 years ago

      This pipeline worries me too. It just seems like lots of people want to make money at the expense of the environment and the health of the people. Remember that awful oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico a few years ago? No one ever talks about that anymore, but I have read that there are what they call dead spots in the ocean where nothing can live because that oil is still there. I think people should wake up and insist on developing wind and sun energy while we all still have a planet to live on. You hear the politicians talking about leaving a big debt to the children all the time. What about the planet we are leaving them to live on? They may not be able to live because of all the poison everywhere. Who will pay the debt then? Or care?

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Aunt Jimi. I believe there are more than three snakes in the woodpile, and Paul Ryan does not even bother to hide in the chips.

      I heard one time that the Bush family was buying any properties that went up for sale in Argentina, I guess that is where the plan to move to after they destroy America.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      Alan Grayson says the bill that enabled this pipeline was an Earmark that only serves the Corporation that will build this pipeline.

      From PolitiFact.Com -- Truth-o-Meter:

      "A bill, H.R. 3, would effectively sidestep the key governmental reviews delaying the project, which is to be built by TransCanada Keystone Pipeline, L.P., a Canadian company.

      H.R. 3 declares that a presidential permit is not required to advance the project. It also clears the project under the the National Environmental Policy Act, Endangered Species Act, the Mineral Leasing Act, Migratory Bird Treaty Act, the Federal Land Policy and Management Act and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act, among other laws; and prevents the Environmental Protection Agency Administrator from blocking the project."

      When a bill has to go through all this hanky-panky in order to pass, it sounds like there's a snake or three in the woodpile to me.

      Even Canadian oil and gas workers, and unions oppose this pipeline according to Truth-Out.Org.

      Republicans are doing their best to destroy America.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Carl, thank you for reading and commenting. I don't know the solution, I wish I had a one.

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      Aunt Jimi, thank you for your comment.

      You are right about wind and solar, but what a battle with the oil people and people in their pockets, they are going to fight us all the way.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      We aren't going to benefit from a single drop of the oil in the pipeline here discussed and the solution is to wean ourselves off oil and onto a clean renewable energy source like wind and solar energy.

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      Carl 4 years ago

      @Shyron

      Unfortunately we are still dependant on crude oil for everything from the clothes we wear to the gasoline that fuels our cars. You are outlining the problems well, but what is the solution?

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Aunt Jimi, for stopping, commenting, and sharing. I really appreciate you.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      An excellent hub and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. You are right on target with this article! Will share.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Glenda for you comment.

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      Glenda 4 years ago

      I went to the link mentioned above by another hub creator. I find it very poignant.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30 for your comment and the link. I wish I could use the video, but it is water marked, but the information is good, I will try linking to the video. I appreciate you sending it to me.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Hey Shyron: here is the most important link connected to this issue.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30 for stopping back again and leaving a comment. You are appreciated.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30 for stopping back again and leaving a comment. You are appreciated.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Suzanne for the comment and the Nader quote and for voting up and awesome. :)

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      No truer words were ever spoken

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      justmesuzanne 4 years ago from Texas

      "The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun." ~ Ralph Nader

      Voted up and awesome! :)

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, This pipeline is a danger to our existance and you are right everyone need to read this and Watch the videos, they speak volumes, but it seems no one wants to hear what the danger is to our country. I have seen first hand what the oil can do to the land when we lived near an oil field in California and Waco, Texas.

      Thank you for your comments.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Ms. Shenko, I too believe in Climate Change. I also think that 1) the situation has been grossly exaggerated (for $$$, horrors of horrors) by sterling characters like Al Gore and the "Hockey Stick" scientists, who have been proven to be liars by their own correspondence, and 2) the degree to which Man, as opposed to Mother Nature, is participating in the phenomenon. But I am not surprised that your mind has not "been changed one bit." Maab30 wrote "You have to be religious to ignore the facts to the degree which you have" and you could not see that the remark equated religion with ignorance, so what else could I expect here?

      There was never any intent on my part to "blame" you for the lack of quality of my article. You have never said so, but my apologies if you took it that way. It was certainly CYA on my part, but certainly no criticism of you. I also regret that my comments have distracted from the subject of your article.

      In my law enforcement career of 30+years, I was not subjected to the mean-spirited insults that have come my way during this discourse. Oh, I was "cussed out" numerous times, but at least the insults were related to the situations at hand, not intentionally deflective, meaningless diatribes. Alinsky would be proud!

      I am going to follow the good advice you gave me through Paul's Letter to the Thessalonians. But I do detect the germ of another Hub.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      This is such an important article. Everyone needs to read it and discuss it with their friends and neighbors. Everyone needs to understand that this pipeline affects our country and everyone in it. You've done a great job of bringing the issues out and now it's up to 'people' to act on this information.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Aunt Jimi, thank you for stopping by and for your comments. I really appreciate you. My friend!

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thanks for the links, you are so right on, with them yes I believe in global warming.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      LibertyCell, I read your article. I did not understand it. It did not change my mind in the least and I kept an open mind as I was reading it.

      I believe in Global Warming and you will too, one day, hope for your sake it is not too late when you do.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      You see? Your article is just the same old same old as I suspected - the same old garbage about global warming being a hoax. You are so easily led by big business. More proof that money talks.

      I don't think blaming Shyron for your own sloppiness is a small thing. I doubt if you'd think so if somebody tried to lay a guilt trip on you.

      As for your degree in criminal justice -- it's one of the easiest degrees to get at the university. Even kinesiology is more difficult because a person must do all the activities and sweat. Most people with limited intelligence and/or who are lazy go for criminal justice, kinesiology, or, well, I best not say it lest the whole world go crazy. Easiest degrees there are to obtain.

      The reason our world is so screwed up is because it is run by morons. All you did was point out that you were one of them. I don't think it's incredible that someone with no cognitive abilities could do all the things you listed because hundreds, maybe thousands of people do those things everyday. (See the first sentence of this paragraph.)

      What university did you get your degrees from? Please don't say it was Bobby Ben's and Jimmy Jack's College of Criminal Justice, Law School, and chain saw repair in Los Angeles, CA.

      What kind of grades did you get? My history prof said that the world is run by C students and I think he was probably right. Your grades and your GPA? If you aren't too embarrassed to admit what they were . . .

      Politicians give speeches regularly. Look at Michele Bachman. She's full of speeches and lies and stupidity. She never lets any of those things get in the way of flapping her jaws.

      You just hate that I've got your number don't you? It really wasn't hard. You gave it away when you said you were a Republican who favors destroying the environment to appease your Money God. ;)

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX, which is what Ms. Shenko and I are discussing and all you want to discuss is menial semantics. It is incredible that a person could coordinate a police academy, run a PD bureau responsible for the budget, internal affairs, crime analysis, etc., then run for 12 years a statewide police association, making speeches, designing and implementing member benefit programs, testifying before legislative committees, promoting the passage of numerous bills, writing numerous articles for the association publication, etc., while attaining a master's degree in CJ management, ALL WITHOUT BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO READ COMPREHENSIVELY? I have spent much more time than is worthy of the shallow likes of you; I will spend no more.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      The issue Mr. Cell, is YOU. I don't care about your article and don't plan to read it. I'm sure it's just another rehash of the same old same old Republican bilge. The issue is YOU trying to blame Shyron because your hub was less than stellar due to your rushing to accommodate her.

      The lie is when you said you were not blaming her when your words were very clear. You really should learn reading comprehension and critical thinking. I know, I know, not possible for Republicans . . .

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      If you visit "They call this Global Warming???" by Mr. Archer, you will find links to some of those other Global Warming articles that have already been published before mine. I understand and even agree with Hub not publishing mine. Mr. Archer's Hub is anecdotal and entertaining. My daughter (Indianapolis) says she has been shoveling "Global Warming" all winter. She has changed the epitaph "Go pound sand, to "Go pound snow! A chilling thought, indeed.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Ms. Shenko, I have it posted on my website. You are invited to read other articles on the site if you wish. "Notes on Education" will not, hopefully, offend you. Another article "Financial Institutions, What Else Can They Do?" (to prove they require oversight) has been "rotated off" the site. If you would like, I can send that article to you via email. I think that if we (everybody) don't start honest discussion BASED ON ISSUES we are going to be in deep trouble real soon! You seem to be a reasonable person.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Apparently, Hub has many other postings on this subject. I think I quoted others too much. I am now in the process of reducing the quotes and leaving in my words. I don't know if that will work, however, in a few moments I will post it on my webpage.http://pixel8smm.com/libertycell/

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, IS GLOBAL WARMING REAL? - TheLibertyCell - HubPages thelibertycell.hubpages.com › ... › Climate Change Issues

      8 hours ago – What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multi-decadal natural fluctuation? They'll kill us probably.”

      I tried to read your hub - It says it is no longer published!

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, I was unable to to find your hub "Is Global Warming Real" last night on your profile page. I found two articles with that title on Google. One by Robert Lamb and the other by Dan Vergano.

      I promise you, I will read it. However at the moment, I have other, more important issues off the computer.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, I was unable to to find your hub "Is Global Warming Real" last night on your profile page. I found two articles with that title on Google. One by Robert Lamb and the other by Dan Vergano.

      I promise you, I will read it. However at the moment, I have other, more important issues off the computer.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, I was unable to to find your hub "Is Global Warming Real" last night on your profile page. I found two articles with that title on Google. One by Robert Lamb and the other by Dan Vergano.

      I promise you, I will read it. However at the moment, I have other, more important issues off the computer.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Once again, not one syllable on the content of my Hub. Your saying that I have my pants down or that I guilt tripped Ms. Shenko does not make it so. None of that is "in black and white" except in the form of distracting accusations by you. Now you have called me a liar - of course without specifying the lie. Once again, your saying it does not make it true. Your arrogance is amazing! But your use of the typical liberal strategy of "let's talk about anything but the issue" is excellent.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      Yup, I took on a mistake all right -- YOU are that mistake.

      I have read this hub and responded to the info in it considerably. If you would lift your eyes up you would see that I have done so.

      My most recent remarks were entirely for your benefit. Don't try to say you weren't attempting to guilt trip Shyron because it's right there in black and white. You Republicans don't know the meaning of personal responsibility and the second you get caught with your pants down -- which is often, too often -- you try to lie your way out of it.

      Shyron is indeed very responsible and thorough with the information she presents and I have never once heard her try to blame someone else for anything she is responsible for.

      One could tell from my diatribe because one bothered to check the comments on this hub and so one knew that I have previously commented on this hub, however YOU are another story. YOU could not tell because YOU are a bit challenged. YOU live your life by assumptions and they're usually wrong, so it's no surprise you're a supporter of this pipeline AND a Republican.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Aunt Jimi, thanks for so perfectly illustrating my concern. "It has been my experience that folks on the left will take off on a mistake to distract from the information they don't like." You wrote not one syllable related to the content of the Hub. One could not tell from your diatribe whether you even read it! Ms. Shenko did not "make" me do anything; I did not "blame" her for anything. I "accommodated" her because she appears to me to be an honest, responsible person, who, if she has problems with my Hub, will say so by challenging what is in the Hub, unlike you. So, excuse me for expressing concern for exactly what happened.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Aunt Jimi, I appreciate your weighting in on the subject.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, I did not find "Is Global Warming Real" on your profile page. I found two articles with that title on Google. One by Robert Lamb and the other by Dan Vergano.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, I did not find "Is Global Warming Real" on your profile page. I found two articles with that title on Google. One by Robert Lamb and the other by Dan Vergano.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      What TheLibertyCell? You did a luke warm job of it and you want to blame Shyron for that? For making you rush to "accommodate her?" Only you can force you to publish. If you needed more time to do a good job you should have taken it. If you did a sloppy job, that's on you Mr. Cell. Do you always blame other people for your screw ups? Whatever happened to the Republican "personal responsibility?"

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Liberty Cell, I will definitely read your hub.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Liberty Cell, I will definitely read your hub.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      OK, it is finally posted. The title is "Is Global Warming Real? Hub and I fussed a little over the title. It is longer than I thought, but please keep in mind that this Hub is only half of the article I intended to post. The other half will come later. I am also apprehensive that, during the rush to accommodate you, I may have misplaced a quote or made some other error. I have not had time to re-check like I normally do. It has been my experience that folks on the left will take off on a mistake to distract from the information they don't like. Anyway, happy reading!

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Hub tells me it cannot save my hub right now and to try later. maab30, you are insulting and do not have an objective bone in your body. Stand by! Ms. Shenko, it will be entitled "Global Warming. Really?"

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      I am in the middle of an article that will encompass more than just Global Warming, sort of a back and forth between the environment and the economy, right and left, that sort of thing. I have a section more or less finished, so I will try to post it now. Please remember, this is a negative part, at least from your perspective, I will also get on the oil people as well, when it is finished.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, what is the name of you post? I will definately read it, as time permits.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, what is the name of you post? I will definately read it, as time permits.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thank you for the link, I just happen to have the transcript of James Hansen. I completely agree with him.

      I can't seem to get the video to play.

      But thank you again for this.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thank you for the link, I just happen to have the transcript of James Hansen. I completely agree with him.

      I can't seem to get the video to play.

      But thank you again for this.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Here is a link that is a much watch.

      http://www.ted.com/talks/james_hansen_why_i_must_s...

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Yes I'm sure James Hanson left his job to get arrested for a "Scam". Sure. Are you kidding me? What kind of backwards logic is that? Sorry but people who believe in the human connection to climate change surly have not been paying attention or reading some sciences most revered studies. by the way, human caused climate change is real by the Easter Bunny is not and yes Elvis is dead.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Ms. Shenko, et al. I posted a question about the findings on the Global Warming "scientists" being a part of a massive scam that was exaggerating, even creating the problem. The silence is deafening!

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      I read the article you suggested, but I think the people who are closest to the project itself would know more than anyone, the dangers of this particular pipeline.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Did you read the article I referenced? I will read the article you suggested, but the title itself says quite a lot about its objectivity.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      TheLibertyCell, Maybe you should read

      Keystone XL Pipeline ‘All Risk, No Reward’ State Dept. Told

      by News Editor in At Risk, Energy, Latest News, RSS on April 19, 2013 12:33 am

      http://ens-newswire.com/2013/04/19/keystone-xl-pip...

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Ms. Shenko, I was commenting on the article I referenced that appeared to be objective and which did not bring up any of the "stuff" I received from various sources about ignorance and trustworthiness. I support the pipeline because I believe it will help allow this nation become less dependent on foreign - especially Middle Eastern - oil, and I also think the opposition to the pipeline distorts and exaggerates its potential consequences. Bye bye.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Clyde for your visit and your Comment.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Liberty Cell, if you are directing your comment to maab30, you should address the comment to maab30.

      My statement “If any person promoting the Keystone XL Pipeline were Liberal/Progressive/Independent an Atheist or Christian. I would still THINK they are a Lobbyist for said Pipeline.” You say you are not a lobbyist, and I have to believe that.

      You say that you support the Pipeline, I would like to ask you why?

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      Clyde 4 years ago

      This is a great hub to bring to the forefront what lengths Lobbyist will go to convince people that they don't need oversight and that the American people will benefit in some way, which is not the case.

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      the liberty cell 4 years ago

      First, the "if you are religious you are ignorant" remark was from maab30. I referred that to you and you said you could not see that meaning in the remark. Maab30's remark meant nothing else but what I said it meant and maab30 has "stood by" the remark. I was simply referring to maab30's remark, it has nothing to do with you.

      You contradicted your denial of my reference, "nobody but us liberals can be trusted" in your very next paragraph when you wrote, "If any person promoting the Keystone XL . . .I would still think they are a Lobbyist for said Pipeline. I support "said pipeline" and I am not a lobbyist for anyone or anything, except the truth. That kind of dogma, on both sides of the aisle, is the essence of the problem in this country.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      The Liberty Cell,

      No demonizing of Paul Ryan

      Any spoken word on Paul Ryan that criticizes him is legitimate, but that is not demonizing him, he does that to himself every time he opens his mouth.

      "nobody but us liberals can be trusted, no "

      If any person promoting the Keystone XL Pipeline were Liberal/Progressive/Independent an Atheist or Christian. I would still think they are a Lobbyist for said Pipeline.

      "if you are religious you are ignorant," Where does this come from?

      If you are saying because I am a Christian, that I am ignorant. You are entitled to your own opinion.

      My religion Mr. Liberty Cell, you keep referring to, and you seem to be questioning my beliefs.

      I believe in God, I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and I read from my Bible. I believe you are the one that asked me about Soren Kierkegaard. I have not read his works, but I doubt that reading anything he wrote would change who I am or what I believe.

      I do not judge you Sir. Do not judge me.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      This appears to be an objective article on the issue. No demonizing of Paul Ryan no "nobody but us liberals can be trusted, no "if you are religious you are ignorant, " bla bla bla. http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2011/12/costs_...

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Aunt Jimi, for reading and caring about this and thank you for you comments. We have to keep our eyes open, where people you can't trust are involved.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      I think it's so good that you're bringing attention to this issue with this article. I hope lots of people will read this and learn more about why they should get involved and why they should be paying attention and why they should care about this.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30, I did to the site you mentioned, some good info there.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30, I will check it out.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      this site has great info on the XL Pipeline http://www.democracynow.org/special/keystone_xl_oi...

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      If you think the Pegusas Pipeline in Arkansas was bad it only sent thousands of gallons into one neighborhood. The Keystone XL Pipeline is bigger and the stuff that will be flowing through is way more toxic.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for your input on this subject.

      I appreciate you!

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30 Thank you for returning. You are right about the threat to our environment. Actress Daryl Hannah has a new video out on the possible disaster to our country. and the fact that there are no benefits to the USA.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, for watching the videos, for reading and commenting on this hub.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Most of the oil drilled in this country and in Canada is sold to other parts of the world because it will sell for a higher price there.

      But TheLibertyCell, I suppose I technically miss spoke about us not getting so much as a drop of the oil from this pipeline. In fact the pipeline will extend for miles and miles through the U.S. and all along the way there will be the chance (more like the certainty) that a drop or two or a million will seep or explode from that pipeline and then we will get lots of drops of oil on our soil rendering the soil useless for hundred of years.

      The good side is that we will spend millions of dollars cleaning it up as best we can and it will employ a dozen or so people for a few days to that end. So it will create a few temporary jobs at great environmental and taxpayer cost and technically we will indeed get some drops of that oil here in the U.S.

      From what source have you, TheLibertyCell, heard that we would benefit from that pipeline? Why does that pipeline go to the coast where it can be loaded onto ships and transported if it is going to come to the U.S. to be utilized? Why not truck it down here from Canada?

      Most of our oil comes from Venezuela. It's cheap compared to our own oil.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      If the oil is used here or not missis the point about the problem with the pipeline. The fact is that is going to be an environmental disaster on a grander scale than the one Arkansas. There as already been reports of holes in the piping system, as reported on by Democracy Now.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      From what source, Au fait, do you opine that "not a drop of this oil will be used in the U.S."

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      This is an important issue that needs a lot more discussion. Lots of people don't want all the oil spills in their state that are bound to happen (they always do) if this pipeline is built. Lots of environmental damage which causes soil to become useless and people to become sickened. All so other people can have more oil, because remember, not a drop of this oil will be used in the U.S.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      TheLibertyCell, Apology accepted. I still do not see where maab30 is equating religion with ignorance.

      I read II Chronicles, 7:14. And, my belief I Thessalonians 5:22.

      I will read some of your hubs as soon as time permits.

      maab30, thank you for stopping by. I also look forward to reading you hub(s).

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      I stand by my comment on religion, as for Paul Ryan, which was the relevant point of this blog, I would say that he has received a a ton of funding for his political campaign. How do we know this? All you have to do is look at his policies and what he is trying to push. I've seen the political sausage being made up close and have spoken to electeds god knows how many times about this. As the saying goes, show me who is funding a politician's campaign and I'll show you what he is going to be fighting for. And by the way the XL piplines is going to create very few long term jobs, less than 1000 by one account. And it will keep us chained to fossil fuels which is destroying our environment. As for the world economy this is why globalization sucks One economy or slew of corrupt banks can and does create a global crisis. As for Cypress and that's a longer discussion but know that several of the institutions that sunk our economy sunk theirs as well.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Apologies, Ms. Shenkol. I thought you were spelling the words correctly and defining them publicly for my benefit, which I believed demonstrated an attitude. That was evidently not the case, so I am sorry. However, I do not apologize for labeling your characterization of Cain as the first conservative and Jesus as the first liberal as being childish. maab30 wrote, "You have to be religious to ignore the facts to the degree which you have." Ms. Shenko if that is not equating religion with ignorance, what is it? I do not "infer." If I feel like making a point, I make it as clearly and plainly as I can. Your Hub can be about anything you wish. You could be right, although I disagree. What caught my eye was your demonization of Paul Ryan. That was not helpful; you made accusations and inferences you cannot possibly prove. I am a lot more fearful about the near future of the world's economy, as indicated by current news relating to Cypress and repeated historically throughout the ages than I am about the addition of one more pipeline to the thousands already in the ground in this country. Regarding Isaiah, my concerns are not about the "gold and silver" of the rich, but the well-being of us all. My political beliefs can be found in II Chronicles, 7:14. BTW, if you want to read an attack on a liberal, check out a couple of my Hubs.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      sure will make longer comment later.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thank you for stopping by!

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      My hub is about, who will benefit from the laying of the Keystone XL Pipeline, and Paul Ryan under the façade that this will bring jobs to America, is pushing this arcane pipeline with its imminent danger to OUR country. And my hub is about the seizure of private property by eminent domain.

      I did not suggest that you do the research to get you to agree with me, but in the hopes that you would learn the truth.

      My hub is not about the socioeconomics, it is not about ‘Banksters’, finances, socialism or the economy of any other country.

      My reference to Jesus being a Liberal: Jesus cared about everybody, not just the elite and did not give preferential treatment to anyone because of their prominence or wealth.

      You call my other Biblical reference childish and infer that I equate Christianity with socialism, which I do not.

      I do equate Christianity with Liberalism. Liberal: Generous, Bountiful, Tolerant: not literal: not narrow in opinion or judgment: not Orthodox: not Conservative. You say I am out of my league because of my Biblical references. League: an associate of nations or other political entities for a common purpose. One more Biblical reference, whether you think it childish or not is ‘ISAIAH 31:5-7, it is your choice whether you read it or not.

      Are you a theologian?

      You stated that maab30 equates religion with ignorance. I did not read that into any of maab30’s comments.

      Typos: If I had meant that sarcastically, I would have put my comments in the Author’s comments and not as a direct reply to you (to give you a chance to see it privately). What brought this to my attention, I did not know what either word meant, and looked them up. I would appreciate it, if you point out typos in my hubs.

      I do not approve your comments because I agree with you, but because you have the right to disagree with me.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      TheLibertyCell, My hub is about, who will benefit from the laying of the Keystone XL Pipeline, and Paul Ryan under the façade that this will bring jobs to America, is pushing this arcane pipeline with its imminent danger to OUR country. And my hub is about the seizure of private property by eminent domain.

      I did not suggest that you do the research to get you to agree with me, but in the hopes that you would learn the truth.

      My hub is not about the socioeconomics, it is not about ‘Banksters’, finances, socialism or the economy of any other country.

      My reference to Jesus being a Liberal: Jesus cared about everybody, not just the elite and did not give preferential treatment to anyone because of their prominence or wealth.

      You call my other Biblical reference childish and infer that I equate Christianity with socialism, which I do not.

      I do equate Christianity with Liberalism. Liberal: Generous, Bountiful, Tolerant: not literal: not narrow in opinion or judgment: not Orthodox: not Conservative. You say I am out of my league because of my Biblical references. League: an associate of nations or other political entities for a common purpose. One more Biblical reference, whether you think it childish or not is ‘ISAIAH 31:5-7, it is your choice whether you read it or not.

      Are you a theologian?

      You stated that maab30 equates religion with ignorance. I did not read that into any of maab30’s comments.

      Typos: If I had meant that sarcastically, I would have put my comments in the Author’s comments and not as a direct reply to you (to give you a chance to see it privately). What brought this to my attention, I did not know what either word meant, and looked them up. I would appreciate it, if you point out typos in my hubs.

      I do not approve your comments because I agree with you, but because you have the right to disagree with me.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      My hub is about, who will benefit from the laying of the Keystone XL Pipeline, and Paul Ryan under the façade that this will bring jobs to America, is pushing this arcane pipeline with its imminent danger to OUR country. And my hub is about the seizure of private property by eminent domain.

      I did not suggest that you do the research to get you to agree with me, but in the hopes that you would learn the truth.

      My hub is not about the socioeconomics, it is not about ‘Banksters’, finances, socialism or the economy of any other country.

      My reference to Jesus being a Liberal: Jesus cared about everybody, not just the elite and did not give preferential treatment to anyone because of their prominence or wealth.

      You call my other Biblical reference childish and infer that I equate Christianity with socialism, which I do not.

      I do equate Christianity with Liberalism. Liberal: Generous, Bountiful, Tolerant: not literal: not narrow in opinion or judgment: not Orthodox: not Conservative. You say I am out of my league because of my Biblical references. League: an associate of nations or other political entities for a common purpose. One more Biblical reference, whether you think it childish or not is ‘ISAIAH 31:5-7, it is your choice whether you read it or not.

      Are you a theologian?

      You stated that maab30 equates religion with ignorance. I did not read that into any of maab30’s comments.

      Typos: If I had meant that sarcastically, I would have put my comments in the Author’s comments and not as a direct reply to you (to give you a chance to see it privately). What brought this to my attention, I did not know what either word meant, and looked them up. I would appreciate it, if you point out typos in my hubs.

      I do not approve your comments because I agree with you, but because you have the right to disagree with me.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      maab 30, my remarks about typos were directed to Ms. Shenko. Of course there will be typos in this kind of format. I did not appreciate the attitude she was projecting. You very well may be correct about the relative dangers, but I just don't agree. This society has created the highest standard of living in the history of the world and it is clearly under attack. I suggest we solve the problems, such as the financial disparity among our people, and the thievery of the "banksters.' Cleaner energy is a worthy goal even if only for the sake of cleaning up our planet and I feel it will happen in due time. Simple arithmetic should tell us we can't borrow our way out of debt and soon our fiscal folly will blow up in our faces as it is right now elsewhere. Our political leadership, in all quarters, is corrupt, incompetent and incapable of rising above their meaningless babble. Citizens' dependency on the government is a signal for final failure. Overall, I guess I am in favor of ceasing the attack on the very institutions that got us to this unique and lofty position in history and start attacking the specific problems, even within those institutions, that are pulling us apart - or we will all go down. There are too many historical parallels to ignore.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Ok a few are needed from my last comment, since I spotted a few type Os. For global warming, there is nothing more dangerous to our survival than this, even bad economic decisions can't hold a candle to the outcome of what we could be facing. As for Norway and Sweden I don't like the fact that they use petrol on the scale that they do.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Ok, in no particular order. First, with France, most of their financial problems come from the same austerity measures that has been sinking the rest of the EU and what the GOP is trying to pass in the US. The so called sequester if the first major move in that direction and what undoubtedly sink our economy over the long term. This same austerity is also what got the now former right-wing portion of the French Government kicked out of power in favor of the socialist one of today.

      As for Norway and Sweden being oil economies. Well so is Venezuela. Just because you agree with the majority of what a country does, does not mean you will be on board with everything, that would be called mindless dogma. Though both countries are moving more towards green technology. Finally, on this matter, my point was that these countries were socially socialist, and no I don’t support the fact they do rely heavily on petrol. I hope I made my point more clear this time around.

      As for equating religion with ignorance, well you can check out my blog on the subject. But its not as clear cut as what you would like to make it out to be. In short, however, I do you believe religion is a short cut to thinking, guilty as charged. And finally it is wrong to think of Global warming and climate change as two different things, they’re not. Global warming is just an early name for climate change. If you want a full explanation I certainly can give you one but just know, both are references to the same thing. And despite your comment, environmental disasters don’t care if you are on the left or right. It doesn’t care if you are socialist or capitalist or other. And it certainly doesn’t care if you are rich or poor unless we see a real global move to reverse its effects then everyone will be devastated in one form or another possibly global extinction. And no that’s not hyperverally. You can read the Mashell Report which was written by a Pentagon insider since, for some reason you don’t trust anyone on the left. Below is a link where you can find direct access to the full report.

      http://grist.org/article/pentagoners/

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      I will post my article on financial institutions. If you go elsewhere on my Hub, try not to let your blood pressure get away from you.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      maab30, I guess we have to agree to disagree. To all of you who want me to "do the research," it should be clear to you that folks can do that and reach different conclusions. It appears that you equate "doing the research" with "agree with me." For example, Ms. Shenko, it is a tremendous leap to equate Christianity with socialism. I will ignore your other childish Biblical references, because you are out of your league. maab30 equates religion with ignorance! One can be a liberal without being a socialist. Also, thank you for the typo corrections; they were so helpful, but you missed a few from yourself and your compatriots.

      On the subject of research, maab30: France is also "on the ropes" and Sweden and Norway have economies primarily based on income from oil. My, my.

      HOWEVER, regardless of who "did it," maab30, we probably TOTALLY AGREE on the devastation brought upon us by what I will collectively refer to as "the banksters." They have repeatedly proven they require regulation and, failing that, individuals who knowingly defrauded their own customers and subsequently the whole country need to be in jail. Some of my "political insider" friends inform me that the reason politicians do nothing about it (they scarcely mention it) is because members of BOTH PARTIES have "dirty hands." In my view, that is a problem far more immediately perilous than Global Warming and its distinct brother, Climate Change.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Aunt Jimi for stopping by and commenting.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30, thank you for your comments. I agree with you for the most part, except that GWB started the bail-out of the banks. The XL Pipe Line is not for the benefit of America. I do believe that Paul Ryan will benefit, or else he would not be pushing it.

      Tea Party conservatives are out to do what conservatives have tried to do since its inception, is eviscerate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

      I guess thelibertycell does not know that Cain killed his brother Abel, therefore Cain is the first conservative.

      Appreciate you maab30

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Try seeing yourself as a member of the proleteriat (did you mean proletariat? i.e. wage earner?) instead of the poltburo (politburo? i.e. Communist executive committee?) and you will get a clearer picture of the value of socialism when it is forced upon a society.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Where does one go to get a view of socialism that is "properly explained?"

      Try reading the bible. Jesus was the first Liberal.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30 for your continued comments.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      theLibertyCell, There are no unbelievers in hell, too bad they believe to late.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for your comments, I guess Ryan still has some followers no matter how misguided.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you maab30, I am so glad you stopped by. Appreciate someone who knows what they are talking about.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      theLibertycell: you really should do the research on this one. anyway thank you for commenting

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      maab30, Thank you for comments and responding to theLibertycell.

      Some people just don't believe that things like this happen.

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      maab30, you make a wonderful explanation and I'm on your side, but I must take issue with one thing. It wasn't Obama who bailed out the banks, etc. It was George W. Bush who did it just before the election. Obama wasn't even president when the bank bailouts occurred, but right you are that Bush just handed it over, no strings were attached to all that money.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Geez where do I start, well climate change and global warming are really references to the same things. What the issue here is extreme shifts in weather patterns along with the warming of the planet. As I wrote in my previous piece, 98% scientists now say we are entering a rather unnatural warming trend. You can read anything by James Hansen on this matter, its rather enlightening. At this point the research and predictions of what was called the "Dooms day Report" out of Columbia University, 1969, has been spot on except for one area, the results of climate change have been for more disastrous than what was being predicted. More recent research is showing everything from record ice melt in the Antarctic to the mass extinction of various animals who are sensitive to changes in climate such as the Brazilian golden toad. We are also seeing increased volatility of of hurricanes and tornadoes along with longer warm seasons and more intense droughts. Furthermore the shifts in these trends are happening at an unnatural pace. These shifts are the equivalent of more than 1000 years of changing weather patterns. As for scientists getting paid for studying climate change and global warming its nice to see they are doing their jobs. And the large polluters who are supposedly studying the problem are doing nothing about it which is why they are proposing the XL pipline. Except for coal, this is the dirtiest most polluting form of energy there is, along with being a sign that oil futures are coming to an end. tar sands oil is what you try for when all the other petrol as been used up.

      What socialism is being forced upon us, what are you talking about? Obama bailed out the large banks and fortune 500, while doing little to regulate these bodies, which are back to their old practices which will undoubtedly lead us to another financial collapse. Obama also forsaken Unions along with showing willingness to cut Social Security and other social service programs. As for socialist, yes those poor Swedes and Frenchmen. How I feel for Norwegians. Yes many of those regimes you mentioned were tyrannical but not because of socialism but because of the fact that these were countries where dictators were always looking to get into power. Finally be a bit remiss if I didn't mention the fact that Chile under Augusto Pinochet, Iraq under Saddam and El Salvador and Nicaragua under the Contras were all Capitalism nations.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      OK. We have Global Warming and Climate Change, which are distinct, as I suppose you know. Global Warming is believed to be accelerated by greenhouses gases (ultimaterly, humans). ClimateChange is natural and existed long before humans and obviously still exists. Global Warming is scienfitic theory (more than hypothesis and less than scientific law -such as gravity). Climate Change is researched fact. So, how distinct are those two measurements? It appears that Global Warming has increased the earth's temperature from 1900 to 2000 by roughly 0.4 degrees higher than it would have been naturally. Less than 1/2 of one degree. Do you believe that science has a margin of error less than that? You know that is not the case, considering the accuracy of measuriing both phenomona by scientists paid to discover Global Warming. Scientific theory has been shown to be inaccurate time and time again. However, Global Warming is a serious and valid theory and is being addressed, even by many of those who "are pouring all the pollution into our environment." Propping up ' "green" businesses as political reward has been occuring -at the expense of my and your tax dollars-and the "payoff" has not been worth the expenditure.

      You owe me an apology for the remarks about religion and Fox News. That verbiage is typical liberal "insult and distract from the issues" strategy. There are a lot of people smarter than either you or I (including many scientists) who are religious. Most of the people and all of the countries I mentioned as possible sources for proper instruction on socialism were around long before Fox News. The fact remains that those mentioned were/are socialist countries and individuals. It is also true that millions upon millions of people have been incarcerated and/or murdered to enable socialism to prevail and that these current sociialst regimes are inevitably doomed to fail as those before them already have. Try seeing yourself as a member of the proleteriat instead of the poltburo and you will get a clearer picture of the value of socialism when it is forced upon a society.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      For the first remark yes there have always been cycles but it has been confirmed by scientists, not political figures who have confirmed that we are not in a natural warming trend. Sorry argue with the 98% of scientists who work in the studies which center on such issues. You have to be religious to ignore the facts to the degree which you have.

      Ignoring your closing remarks, treating it as a response by one who feels comfortable playing the role of mouth piece for Fox news. As for those to blame, how about the ones who are pouring all the pollution into our environment.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      maab30 these climate cycles have been occurring since the dawn of time. I'm sure it is frustrating that no conservatives were around to blame in 99.999% of the castrastrophies that ensued. The situations in south New Jersey and New Orleans, for that matter, are the results of political failures to appropriately respond to citizens in need. Where does one go to get a view of socialism that is "properly explained?" Should we ask the "big boys" like Lenin, Mao, Stalin, etc., or "wannabe's" like Chavez or Obama or current-day governments like Greece, Spain, Ireland or Portugal or even idiots like Sean Penn, Cher or Michael Moore?

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      You certainly got a lot of discussion on this one! It needs discussing and people need to realize the U.S. will be taking all the risk and getting nothing back.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      Your premise would seem correct, if one were to forget about the unusual velocity of storms, such as Hurricane Sandy along with the record number of so called monster tornadoes. when accounts for shift in warming trends not seen in 11000 years and the mass extinction of species sensitive to climate change. try visiting the Far Rock-Aways of New York or southern New Jersey some time. Both are still laying in ruin. As for green technology, it has caught up to our society, and is widely demanded by most people on the ground even by those in the so called red states. Its only the elections who remain as whores to the oil industry which is holding things up. One more thing, most people support socialism when properly explained, especially as more and more people get screwed by the giant strap on known as Capitalism which I'm so happy is dying out even though congress is trying to keep it on life support.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      To maab30, are you referring to the "environmental disaster" that has befallen us for the last 100 years or so since the vast network of pipelines that crisscross our country was begun? A true disaster has been of an economic nature, partly brought on by misguided sociaists prematurely foisting failing "green" companies on the taxpayers while simulteneously thwarting traditional energy sources. I agree that, since the sun is the ultimate energy source, we should go there when the technology catches up to our society. "Green" will happen when it is appropriate.

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      Matthew Abuelo 4 years ago from News And Art From The Left

      To TheLibertyCell the pipeline project should never be built not only for the lack of jobs that will remain but it would be an environmental disaster despite the report released by the state department. Activists several weeks ago, found holes in some of the pipes which the mainstream media have not reported. Its time to go solar, nor relying on 20th century technology which should be scrapped in favor of our survival as a species.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      Absurd! Buggies are obsolete. Assuming your premise is correct (it is not), does that mean they should not ever have been manufactured?

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Cheryl for your comments. You are right, but I doubt that Canada (owner of the Keystone Pipeline) will hire American workers, they will probably bring their own workers.

      I worry about the dangers to our country if there is a leak and the corrosive substance that will flow through the pipeline that is so toxic that Canada does not want it crossing their own land. Also it is not for American consumption, but to get it to the Ports to transport it to other countries, using our country and land to get it there!

      America will not benefit from the pipeline, so how will Paul Ryan benefit from lobbing for this dangerous (only to America) pipeline to be laid.

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      Cheryl 4 years ago

      Its taking away peoples land, once the job is done there will be no need for the many workers they hired and they will get laid off because once its done there is no maintenance needed the job will end. People are only looking at one thing and not the whole picture. This is not a good investment and not a good job source. You are making people leave their homes or give up their land for a worthless effort.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait for your comments.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      More people ought to be looking into exactly what building this pipeline will mean. If they knew the facts, I think they wouldn't be in favor of it. I read today that it will only create, at most, 35 permanent jobs, and look at all the risk involved to do that.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      I believe as you do Au fait. As it is said 'Money Talks', I say 'Money not only Talks, but walks and destroys everything in its wake.'

      Thank you for reading and commenting on this hub.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      Since the U.S. will not benefit from this pipeline, why they are building it across this country where there will undoubtedly be oil spills and other accidents, is a good question. Why DO some of our Congressmen/women want this thing? (I think the answer is money. Money in their PACs, etc.)

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, for your comments and I agree with you, but unfortunately the Greedy Old Politicians are drug dealers (selling the Pipeline to the American people) with the same disregard for human beings as cocain drug dealers.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      You are welcome torrilynn, appreciate your comment and thanks for sharing and voting up.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

       Aunt Jimi, Thank you for your comments. I love your analogy of the hangnail problem. But I think it is our head that Ryan wants on the chopping block. Some people will sell their own country for the right price.

      I am so happy for your input, you always know the right thing to say!

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

       TheLibertyCell, thank you for stopping by. What makes you think that Americans will be getting the jobs to lay this pipeline?

      After all it is Canada's project, what makes you think they will not bring Canadian workers, like the Japanese did in the Freeport Illinois town, where Romney's Bain Capital sold Sensata Technologies to Japan, they brought their own Japanese workers to be trained by the people they would replace in Japan, and even wanted the Japanese flag hosted on the American flag pole?

      Are you telling us that your NASA engineer son doesn't know that you don't have to be a 'rocket scientist' (I never knew that rockets had surgeons) to know that the pipeline is not for the benefit of America, and that America does not profit in any way? Except for maybe Paul Ryan.

      Don't you know that Canada wants to go through the United States to get the TOXIC TAR SAND OIL to market?

      It is my sincere that you will do some research on this project, and the potential disaster to the United States, and I hope that you watched the videos on this hub.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

       HSchneider, I am so happy you stopped by, thank you for your comment.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

       Mr. Happy, thank you for your comments and reading my article. I also believe Paul Ryan is a crook.

      I will be reading your article.

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      C E Clark 4 years ago from North Texas

      I'm for getting away from oil dependency entirely. But politicians are in the pockets of big oil and so long as that is true we will continue to be held hostage to big oil and addicted to their drug.

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      torrilynn 4 years ago

      thanks for this article

      very informational and detailed giving

      perspectives on your own thoughts and the actual facts

      thanks for sharing

      Voted up

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      Yes, Paul Ryan's proposals do attempt to address our problems in a concrete, realistic way -- AND MAKE THEM WORSE! Sometimes something is worse than nothing.

      It's like this; a person has a hangnail and it hurts and keeps getting caught on things. No one knows what to do and they wring their hands over the situation. Along comes a knight in shining armor and pulls out his sword and slices the person's hand off who had the hangnail. Voila! No more hangnail; problem solved! Well, at least the knight did SOMETHING CONCRETE to resolve the problem!

      Big business, no matter what kind of business it is, puts BIG MONEY in the PACs of politicians and makes BIG CONTRIBUTIONS to the campaign funds of politicians.

      If people think construction jobs are not worth creating (through improving and repairing our infrastructure) for the purpose of alleviating some of the unemployment pain because they are only temporary jobs, then how temporary will the jobs be that build this pipeline? Oh, they won't be temporary, because every time the pipeline fails it will need repairs and huge chunks of our planet will need to be cleaned up. Never mind that it will be hundreds of years before any living thing can grow there again . . .

      We need to get away from one track minds who believe the only energy that is feasible is produced from oil. Here in the city where I live, pop. 128,000, our utility company proudly states that 40% of our energy is produced by wind. Why can't lots more cities do the same thing? I should think D.C. could run 100% on the wind energy produced by the Republicans alone!!

      We need to get out of the rut that believes oil is the only means of energy. It isn't, and with time the wind and solar energy sources will improve, but that won't happen so long as we keep dumping all or our resources into oil.

      What new taxes "The Liberty Cell?" Taxes are lower now than at any time in our history. During the Eisenhower Administration the highest tax bracket was 92%. During the Reagan Administration the highest tax bracket was 82%. Until we get back on our feet and make up for all the money the bankers stole from everyone, we need to have a higher tax bracket for those who can afford it. After all, these people made their fortune here in the U.S. by using everything this country has to offer, why not do a little pay back to bail out the country that made them wealthy?

      It's time for the wealthy to pay their share and stop mooching off this country and the people in it. We helped them build their businesses and their fortunes and then they moved their investments and companies and jobs overseas -- but they've stayed behind to continue to benefit personally from all this country has to offer.

      Most of the wealthy made their money by paying barely subsistence wages to their employees, providing no benefits to their employees, often cheating their employees out of wages earned, making shoddy widgets that cheat the customers, using U.S. transportation sources to send their widgets to market, and now they've moved to countries where they can screw their employees even worse! Force them to live in barracks, work 10-12 hour shifts 7 days a week, feed them pourage, and basically enslave them! This is what Republicans protect and stand for.

      Republicans and wealthy people need to start paying their share. They need to start thinking about somebody besides themselves and their own bank accounts for a change. They need to think about the environment that will affect their own offspring as well -- but do they care? They talk continually about how programs to help poor people are putting financial burdens on our children's futures, but talk is cheap. What do the actually DO? They put burdens on our children's health and well being because they are destroying this planet in the name of fattening their own coffers.

      Paul Ryan was a major reason Romney lost. Palin was a bad choice by McCain because she's stupid, but Ryan is evil and that's not an improvement.

      Just doing something, anything at all, is not always a good solution.

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      Jim Lyde 4 years ago from Austin, Texas

      AT least Ryan's proposals attempt to address our problems in a concrete, realistic way. Increased oil production does benefit corporations, who employ PEOPLE. Other PEOPLE receive royalties and therefore spend more money. As my NASA engineer son says, "This is not rocket surgery!" Of course, I could be wrong. I mean all the new taxes, bailouts, etc., have worked great, huh?

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      Howard Schneider 4 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Paul Ryan is simply trying to make his fairy tale budget numbers work. So he included some fairy dust, aka Keystone pipeline jobs" to inflate his numbers. The bottom line is we both need spending cuts and revenue increases to balance the budget in 10 years. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. Great Hub, Shyron.

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      Mr. Happy 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      "Why does Canada not want to put the Pipeline across its own country?"

      Because it's insane to try to build such long pipelines, to transport some of the dirties oil on this planet. There have been recent accidents in the Arctic with Shell drilling, we remember the Gulf of Oil and so ... pipelines going across Canada does not sound appetizing, in my opinion.

      Activists and many First Nations up here will fight this to the last breath. We don't believe all the lies about money and jobs ... heard all that before. In reality, it is the big corporations who profit off such projects and the common man ends-up with polluted water, forests, etc.

      Paul Ryan is a crook. I wrote an article on his insider trade deals on Wall St., not very long ago ... rotten, that man is ...

      Thank You for the article.

      All the best!

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