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Illegal Immigration in the USA: A Proposed Solution

Updated on August 15, 2016
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Mrs. Fox, aka cmoneyspinner, former civil servant, now self-employed; engaged in multiple online endeavors, including freelance writing.

Illegal immigration in the USA: A hot political topic 2014 and Beyond!

To hear the news reports, you might think the only illegals here in America are undesirable Mexicans so desperate that they send their children across the borders all alone. We know that's not true but if you live in Texas, that's the story you hear most of the time.


Once upon a time, Mexico had a problem with illegal immigration:

Texas used to be part of Mexico you know? In fact, there was a plan to make The Brazos Caldwell area a capital city named Tenoxtitlan (after an Aztec capital). So here's what happened a little less than 200 years ago. Mexico had enacted a law to STOP white immigrants (Europeans) from entering Texas. Military force was going to be used to enforce this law. But the Lieutenant Colonel who was given the orders DISOBEYED. When the first immigrants arrived, instead of sending them back across the border, he showed them sympathy and compassion and let them carry out their plan to build a new home and a new life. It wasn't very long – took about four years – Texas was filled with “illegal immigrants”. Do you know what they did once they got settled? REVOLTED!! A new republic was born.

(Have patience dear reader. I am going somewhere with this.)

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Why Build Walls and Fences Anyway?

There is the Great Wall of China and there was once the Berlin Wall. Walls to keep people out (or keep people in) have been commonplace throughout the history of mankind, haven't they? Walls were used to fortify cities and protect the residents. If you believe the biblical account, there used to be walls surrounding Jericho. So in Texas USA, there is a lot brew-ha-ha over building a fence to protect our borders. Protection from what, you ask? From marauding invaders, terrorists, and possibly “illegal immigrants” who want to come here.

Wall? Fence? Same thing, in my mind. But will a fence really add a layer of extra protection for our borders and solve the problem of illegal immigration ? That is definitely debatable. To me, it's six in one hand and half a dozen in the other.

As you can see from history, the Mexican government tried to implement border security. They didn't build a wall or a fence, they built a fort. Perhaps it would have succeeded if only they had hired the right man for the job!! Who knows?

But why build walls and fences IF you can build bridges by erasing borders?


A Proposed Solution to the US Immigration Problem

Why don't we change our approach to the “problem” of border security?

Lets dig deep and get to the heart of the matter. We are labeling human beings seeking life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as “illegal immigrants”. Why ILLEGAL? Because … there are LAWS that are being broken. That's true true true. But consider this? Is illegal the same thing as undesirable? These are real people – a lot of them, honest hard-working people with families. Nobody likes freeloaders and bums and relocating criminals just moving their operations from one territory to the next. But what honest decent compassionate individual doesn't want to try to help another honest person who is trying hard to help themselves? Especially, when children are involved. Because you think to yourself: 'That could be me! I'd appreciate help.'

When people are born and raised in a certain place, it often takes a heart-wrenching genuine effort to uproot and replant themselves somewhere else. But why do they or why should they have to leave their homeland, their home? Look at Mexico! Good food, prime real estate and some hard-working people who know the land and know how to work it! Those are awesome assets for any country!

Rather than insisting on a DIVIDE between the USA and Mexico, why not just make Mexico a part of the United States? Don't bark at that!!! Wasn't New Mexico, Arizona and California under Mexican rule at one time? Uh huh.

Look at the image below. There would be no problem with border security if we ERASED THE BORDER! There is no reason why Mexico-US relations should be strained over this issue. Human trafficking is a CRIME, since we're tossing around the term "illegal". It is a horrific "problem" THAT CAN BE SOLVED. Think about it. :)

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Texas was a part of Mexico
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      Treathyl FOX 14 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @donttazemebro ~ That's the point of the HUB. To get some open and honest discussion going. I was starting to think nobody wants to solve this problem. Since most of the public discussions I've heard seem to be always going nowhere or going around in circles and getting nowhere, thought I'd inject something that had not been said to see if anybody out there really had something to say that could break this “Mexican stand off”. (Excuse the pun.)

      HUBPages is a great place to do that! People don't mind discussing “hot topics” here.

      Quite frankly I believe any country's immigration laws are no different from any of the other laws of that country. If you break those laws and you receive just punishment for violating them, what did you expect? After all, you did disobey!

      In the end, I think we both agree, it's a problem that can be solved and that should have already been solved.

      Perhaps there's a “hidden agenda”. Such things do exist.

      This exchange we had was good! :)

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 14 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      The problem of illegal immigration has not gone away, not because it has not been solved but because no "career" politicians wants to solve it. Politicians don't want to do it because they are bought off by special interests or they want illegal immigration to continue until they get amnesty purely for political reasons and the millions of illegals they can enroll into their party .

      You say "Surely there must be a solution?" It is so simple it boggles the mind that anyone is looking for alternatives like... annexing Mexico? The answer is to fortify the border, plain and simple, other countries do it and there is no logical reason not to... except for the ulterior motives I've discussed.

      One man who can get the job done because he isn't beholding to any special interests and isn't in the democrat party, the architects of amnesty, is Donald Trump, love him or hate him that is the plain truth and the biggest reason he is even in the race.

      Elect Hillary and you're on your way to an even more corrupt America, more corrupt than Mexico, a Supreme Court that legislates from the bench and unwanted influence from nations around the world having paid the Clintons to play in our future.

      BTW, I applaud you for allowing me to tell it like it is even though you disagree and letting your readers decide what makes sense, even though I've been highly critical of your hub page. On that aspect of your discourse I have to give you an A+.

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      Treathyl FOX 14 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @donttazemebro ~ Of course I want to thank you for feedback. And of course I'm going to stick my guns about my proposal. I wrote the article!

      Of course I want more and more feedback. The more we thrash this out, the more likely we are to come up with a real solution to a real huge problem!

      Now you got your points spelled out for people to read and understand clearly and I gave you my answers back. It's my answer. You can call it “putting words into your mouth”. But it's MY answer. You can describe it anyway you want to.

      Plus … you can keep going and say more. I won't stop you!

      The problem of illegal immigration has not gone away because it has not been solved. Surely there must be a solution!

      Uniting the countries is extreme. So there won't ever be a “United States of America and Mexico”. But maybe the governments can work together and create some kind of unity!

      Are Mexican government officials so corrupt we can't even try to reason together?

      Or is the problem of Illegal Immigration forever just going to be a bullet point on every President's “TO DO List - Political Agenda” like taxes and the Middle East?

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 14 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      I said you don't mention "anything about the crime and corruption abounding throughout Mexico." Illegals here are not corruption throughout Mexico, it's a crime here, in America. So please don't put words in my mouth to pretend what I said is incorrect.

      There is no comparison of corruption here as there is in Mexico because we are not a lawless country. SO when you say "I have to accept that CORRUPTION is an evil that can never be overcome." you just raised another straw man because I never even implied that. When you say "So! (???) Every country that has a corrupt government … then I guess … only God can save the people who live there!! Right?"

      Wrong, and no reasoning person would ever make that conclusion from anything I said. You are simply trying to stick to your guns that annexing Mexico is some sort of good or feasible idea instead of admitting that it is an insane idea and everything I said is right.

      My point isn't anything you just said but it is that you don't invite corruption, not just corruption but lawlessness to the extreme extent it is in Mexico into your country. The thought of joining the two countries is worse, a thousand times worse than open borders and would solve no problems while creating an untold number of new ones even threatening the very existence of what we know to be the United States of America. this is why nobody in their right mind has ever proposed it.

      Still want to thank me very much for my feedback?

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      Treathyl FOX 14 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @donttazemebro ~ I don't mention crime? I'm talking about “illegals”. That is a crime! And yes I am aware of all the “bad stuff” that's going on in Mexico. Even if I did not mention it, no doubt the twofold cord of crime and corruption is probably Numero Uno on the list of reasons why people are trying to get out of their country (whatever country they're fleeing).

      Even though I don't believe the people “in charge” can be “easily” persuaded to accept the proposed solution … if I view all the info you have supplied in your comments (which I very much appreciate) … then basically I have to accept that CORRUPTION is an evil that can never be overcome.

      So! (???) Every country that has a corrupt government … then I guess … only God can save the people who live there!! Right?

      Thank you. Thank you very much for your feedback.

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      Banned cause of pissants promisem and deantraylor 14 months ago from TWO OF THE MANY LYING LIB CRYBABIES OF HUB PAGES

      You know the problem with our border with Mexico is not that mexicans illegally come over it, the problem is we can't keep corruption (drugs, organized crime, felons, murderers, bribery, etc.) from coming over it. "Annexing" Mexico would be equivalent to inviting corruption to become the American Dream!

      "Corruption is a significant risk for companies operating in Mexico. Bribery is widespread in the country's judiciary and police, and business registration processes, including getting construction permits and licenses, are negatively influenced by corruption. Organized crime continues to be a very problematic factor for business, imposing large costs on companies. Collusion between the police, judges and criminal groups is extensive, leading to widespread crime, theft, impunity and weak law enforcement. The petroleum industry is dominated by the state-owned oil company Pemex, which has been the subject of several high-profile corruption cases. Gifts and hospitality are not forbidden by law and may be permissible, depending on intent. Attempted bribery, extortion, abuse of office, bribery of foreign public officials and facilitation are criminalized under Mexico's Federal Penal Code (Código Penal Federal, in Spanish). However, Mexico's anti-corruption laws are almost never enforced, and public officials are rarely held liable for illegal acts." You should have read this

      http://www.business-anti-corruption.com/country-pr...

      before writing this hub page which says nothing about the crime and corruption abounding throughout Mexico.

      Annexing Mexico would do absolutely nothing to solve our border problems and if it were even possible, which it is not (Mexico would never submit their criminal enterprise which is what it significantly is to another country's rule) would turn America into Mexico not the other way around, or to stop the corruption from taking over America it would eventually become a never ending civil war from US trying to apply the rule of law to Mexico.

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      Old Poolman 14 months ago

      You make a good point. I assume the jobs the illegals are taking are those our citizens won't do. Why work when they can live off entitlements?

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      Treathyl FOX 14 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @oldpoolman ~ Continuing my remarks.

      Was busy and responded quickly to your comment to let you know that I had reviewed it.

      Also want to add, now that I have more time, with respect to jobs, something is not jiving. The American politicians say the jobs for Americans are being transferred out of the country, in one breath. In the other breath, they say illegals are coming across the borders and supposedly … if they're not terrorists … they come in the hopes of a better life which would include work!

      So! What's up with the jobs Americans are losing because the work is to be done in a foreign country, such as Mexico! It's so bad where the illegals are running from, they don't even care if a business sets up shop over there and creates jobs for them? (O.o)

      There are a lot of things to be considered. The more I think about it, I still say if you unite the countries we have more to gain that we have to lose.

      OK! I'm done talking to myself. :)

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      Treathyl FOX 14 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @oldpoolman ~ I will add to your repetition: “Amen! On top of Amen!”

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      Old Poolman 14 months ago

      I'll repeat again what I always say. If my family were starving and there was work available in Mexico I would be crossing the border headed South.

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      Treathyl FOX 14 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @nadinemay - Thank you for commenting. Many so-called “illegals” are just like every other ordinary human being. They just want to live their life in peace. Consider that they uprooted themselves and in some cases their entire families. If they were so vicious, evil and bloodthirsty, they could have just stayed where they were, picked up an ax and started swinging! History bears it out. Many many immigrants who FLEE for their lives are not coming to fight and cause trouble. They just want a place to work, eat and sleep.

      One of our presidential hopefuls wants to build a wall to prevent illegals from coming across our borders. Maybe he doesn't know or maybe he forgot. Several years ago, illegals came across through a tunnel the smugglers had built. It stretched from Mexico to Arizona. They did it once. They could probably do it again. Or think of another way! So much for a wall. Just sayin'. Facts are facts.

      Erasing the border between the USA and Mexico? To borrow a quote from the movie about Chaka Zulu: “Anything is possible, if two kingdoms want to live together in harmony.”

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      Nadine May 14 months ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

      I hope that one day there are no borders anymore between countries. We have a lot of illegal immigrants in South Africa and many are well skilled, better than our local population. Nice post.

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      Treathyl FOX 15 months ago from Austin, Texas

      @jackclee lm ~ Thanks for leaving a comment. I was beginning to think this HUB had disappeared into a black hole on the Internet and nobody could read it. :)

      First of all, I'm not making a mistake. It's just a proposed solution. It means … why not think on it?

      As for Mexico being a sovereign nation … what about it? There is such a thing as negotiation, peace talks, or whatever “label” you want to put on the discussion. LOOK! When people put their heads together and want to come up a solution that's a win-win for everybody, they can do it if they want to! Will everybody agree? Of course not! But when has anybody ever been able to please everybody?

      As for La Raza, if they are so influential and intend to get their mission accomplished, how come they never make the news? What? Are they are a secret organization? I hear about the Mexican Mafia. How come I don't hear about La Raza? Don't they have a publicity network to get their word out and recruit members? Or are they working underground and one day they're just going to surprise all the Californians who didn't see “the change” coming??! (O.o)

      You say “Only the poor and uneducated Mexicans” want to come to America? Isn't that rather a cold-hearted and callous thing to say about the hearts and minds of the educated Mexicans who are financially well off and who could improve the quality of life for suffering souls?

      To give an example, there was Indian man who became financially successful and he went back to a poor part of India and built a school for those children, bought them books, computers, and everything needed to get a good education. Why? Because he knew feeding their young minds was like mining a gold mine!!

      When you say only a country's poor and uneducated people want to leave and go elsewhere for a better life, you're not exactly paying that country a nice compliment. That's actually and insult to their humaneness and how they treat fellow human beings. You're basically saying the country's government sucks and those living there who have a comfortable life clearly don't know what it means to be charitable and show compassion to those who are disadvantaged.

      Feel free to have the last word.

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      Jack Lee 15 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Very interesting. How do you propose we annex Mexico, a soverign nation? Do we go to war and conquer them? What about La Raza, the group that wants California be given back to Mexico? You are making the mistake that all Mexicans wants to come here if they could. They don't. Only the poor and uneducated Mexicans wants to come here and only so they can work and make money to send home.

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      Treathyl FOX 2 years ago from Austin, Texas

      @Glenn Stok – I don't agree with people breaking the laws to come across the border “for a better life”. Why does anybody make a major move from one place to another if it's not for a better life? HOWEVER … Realizing that life in many countries is not a life at all – that's how bad it is; and realizing that children are innocents and deserving of receiving over-flowing ladles of human compassion – surely, there must be a way to address this critical social issue. Why did I write HUB? People kept arguing about all the other proposals! Continuous argument is not going to resolve anything. These are real human beings we're talking about.

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      Glenn Stok 2 years ago from Long Island, NY

      This is definitely an interesting alternative way of looking at it. But there are other things to consider. The border between the United States and Mexico is not the only border Mexico has. A major problem is with the southern border.

      Many of the children coming across the border into Texas in the past year have actually started by coming into Mexico over their southern border for the long trip North to the United States.

      The big concern is that these children are caring diseases that Americans are not immune to. We have to wonder now why Measles has developed to come back.

      Anyway, your idea does deserve attention with further analysis by officials who can possibly work it into a total plan, one which includes the same rules our ancestors had to go through. My parents were immigrants from Europe, and they had to learn the language and pass many requirements to allow entry.

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      Treathyl FOX 3 years ago from Austin, Texas

      @aviannovice – Thanks for leaving your comments. With respect to my “opinionated proposal”? What harm is there is dreaming about peace? :)

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      Deb Hirt 3 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      I would love to see Mexico a part of the US, as would many Mexicans. Between all the rah in both countries, I don't think it will happen. Sadly, those people in abject poverty are forced to do what they keep doing…Very well written!

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      Treathyl FOX 3 years ago from Austin, Texas

      @Old Poolman – Hi! Thank your thoughtful insights. Your quotes, my asterisks.

      “... would certainly put a halt to our border issues with Mexico.”

      * * Yep yep. The solution was proposed with the HOPE of putting a halt to critical border issues – mainly HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

      “ ... the very wealthy who currently control Mexico ...”

      * * UM … wasn't thinking about asking approval. But if it's truly for the good of ALL the people and it's doable, then if they don't like it - SCREW 'EM!! They ain't GOD!! {P.S. There are very sensible wealthy people who don't feel that because they have money that equals CONTROL.}

      “ … not stop the border problems completely ...”

      * * (Huge sigh.) Sir, as long as there is EVIL ...

      “I have often thought the same thing regarding Mexico and who knows, perhaps one day it will happen.”

      * * Thinking is usually the first step in problem solving. Right?

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      Treathyl FOX 3 years ago from Austin, Texas

      @RachaelOhalloran – Lady! Your comments have me thrilled!!! :)

      I don't normally write comments that are extended, but I will. Your quotes, my asterisks.

      “The US learned its lesson in both cases. Don't buy any more land.”??

      * * That figures. When they should be paying attention and learn the right lessons, they don't!

      “Now, it has been proven that the US has profited financially by war. But they aren't about to go to war with Mexico again.”

      * * I wasn't even hinting at going to war. Merely suggesting free and open discussion and the development of a possible win-win solution. Call me naïve but I believe people can negotiate and make decisions without beating each other up!

      “There is legislation in Congress ... to make Mexico the 51st state.”

      * * FOR REAL???!!!! Did they ask the Mexicans first??!! No wonder people say Americans are arrogant! (Thanks for the site suggestion!)

      “Obama supports ...one of the last things he does before leaving office. ”

      * * Obama is an American too. He's free to support whatever! 2016 he's out either way. I thought this up on my own, without any input or back-up from him, and will still be thinking it when he's gone!

      “There are 2 counties in California that want to name themselves the state of Jefferson and become the 51st state ...”

      * * News to me!! But can't say I blame them for being unhappy and would not be surprised if they really pushed hard for their statehood. It's the American Way.

      “With all the crime, the only thing Mexico's land would be worth is as a prison state ...”

      * * Some might say that almost sounds like you're describing New York, New York. (Well maybe “some” won't say it, but I'd sure would! :) )

      “A bridge isn't the answer. It is another thing to challenge those entering the US. … Sorry, but it's just my opinion.”

      * * My dear. DO NOT APOLOGIZE. That is totally unnecessary. Stand on it!!

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      Rachael O'Halloran 3 years ago from United States

      Hawaii and Alaska were the last two well advertised land acquisition sales that became states. One sale went well, the other was highway robbery to that state. The US learned its lesson in both cases. Don't buy any more land. And they have not.

      Now, it has been proven that the US has profited financially by war. But they aren't about to go to war with Mexico again. If the US lost, and with Mexico holding the strings to ownership of Baja California area and several other borders, those areas would be "conquered" by Mexico with the win.

      When the United States gets war out of its system - if ever - only then MAY they get back into the business of buying up property or land.

      It might all come sooner than we think. There is legislation in Congress - that has been tabled due to current events - to make Mexico the 51st state. (you can read more at the weeklyworldnews.com website postings around August 2013).

      Obama supports it so much he has spoken of making it one of the last things he does before leaving office. Leaving it all to the next President to deal with the fallout, is more like it.

      There are 2 counties in California that want to name themselves the state of Jefferson and become the 51st state, mostly because they feel they don't get any representation in government.

      If that happens, then Obama will have to live with Mexico being the 52nd state instead of the 51st. The chatter about this in Congress has taken a back seat to all the infractions Obama has committed that they'd rather beat to death. When they stop talking about that, maybe they'll give Mexico statehood a go around.

      It won't be easy. With all the crime, the only thing Mexico's land would be worth is as a prison state, which is what was the underlying reason for the purchase in the first place.

      A bridge isn't the answer. It is another thing to challenge those entering the US. The drug trafficking would increase because there would be highways and byways to use - including bridges, instead of back dirt roads. A bridge would make things too easy for more crime to come into the US.

      Sorry, but it's just my opinion

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      Old Poolman 3 years ago

      Not a bad idea and it would certainly put a halt to our border issues with Mexico.

      However, I doubt the very wealthy who currently control Mexico would agree this is a good idea. They would lose access to all of the money they currently steal.

      It would also not stop the border problems completely, it would just move them to the Southern tip of Mexico and it would start all over again.

      I have often thought the same thing regarding Mexico and who knows, perhaps one day it will happen.