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Is Impeaching President Trump a Dead End?

Updated on May 27, 2019

The Democrats are slowly moving toward the ultimate - removing President Trump from office. But, what is the reality that it will actually happen? What are the odds?

Impeaching Trump or any president is the last gasp measure. It is not easy. Trump knows this. The next step in actually voting to impeaching is to begin an Impeachment Inquiry. This process will give the Democrats even more power to obtain evidence that Trump has either colluded with the Russians and/or obstructed justice. Mueller did lay out 10 valid points that he found, but, are there others that are even better from a legal POV? This will be the next step Pelosi will agree to as it empowers Congress more authority to investigate and go wherever it leads.

The end result of this may or may not be detrimental to Trump. But, let's assume it is to some degree. With three equal branches of government, Congress cannot vote alone to impeach. At some point prior to impeaching, the matter will have to be acted upon by the Senate, by the Executive Branch (with the Attorney General), and lastly, the Judicial Branch (the Courts). The Senate is not going to impeach unless there is something very detrimental they cannot ignore. Many Republicans would have to agree with the Democrats. Then, there is Attorney General Barr, whom we know was appointed by Trump and is an obvious Trump man. There is no doubt he would have to agree or not that Congress does have a valid case to impeach. It is unlikely that Barr would agree to impeach because he is investigating the Mueller investigation at Trump's request. He has unlimited authority. Finally, the case for impeachment might end up in front of pro-Trump court.

Dead Ends

The impeachment process could and likely be stymied at any of these choke points with the current political atmosphere. At best, the impeachment inquiry, assuming it yields more fire to the obstruction case, might be overwhelming for many, enough to push it through. A more likely outcome is nothing much else happens. This would make 2020 look bad for the Democrats. Like many have said, this could all backfire on the Democrats if the outcome is indeed a dead end and Trump is victorious.

Trump is betting this will be the case as months go by. Meanwhile, Trump has improved the economy, jobs, and trade (minus China). As the more radical Democrats push the more moderates for impeachment, it may prove, in the end, to cost them the 2020 election LONG before it arrives over a year from now. That said, it could equally be the end of Trump depending on what happens in the coming year.

Game on!

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    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      55% of Americans say the Constitution should be amended so the candidate who wins the most votes in the presidential election would win; 41% say the current system should be kept so the candidate who wins the most Electoral College votes wins the election pewrsr.ch/2HvBe5j

      I’m sure you know, this goes down party lines.....

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0Kos45XgAA7nst?format...

      We are ending the EC, one way or the other.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Right on, Mike! I don't bother to read his rants if they go over two short paragraphs.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      9 months ago

      In 2020, a new research revealed that Trump could win the electoral vote count over Biden by 1 or 2, yet lose by 5 million in popular vote. Can you imagine the outcry this would raise? This kind of result would raise the issue about getting rid of the electoral vote.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Now Jason Chaffetts is filling in for Hannity! Talk radio jocks who become politicians (Pence!), and politicians who become tv talking heads....

      And let’s not forget Limbaugh, who was keynote speaker at 94(?)congress, and 2008 or 9 CPAC.....

      Military media complex?

      And oh boy, is it fake news! He screamed for years that Clintons killed Foster. “He’s not MY president”......

      Just how long HAS the kgb been here?

      Old Rush has quite the fancy penthouse.......

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: You may be staying on topic, but you are failing as a communicator. No one wants to read your lengthy pontifications about trying to convince us of Trump's innocence. After a while my eyes start to glaze over.

      Further, your insults and telling others what to do are falling on deaf ears. I truly feel sorry for you. Because communications in these comments does not lend itself to courtroom style record keeping of dialog between debating parties. We are not courtroom stenographers.

      I don't know who you are trying to impress, but you are not impressing us. I speak for all of those who are annoyed with your style of commenting, judging, and insulting.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      You can satisfy me with one simple answer, Brad. Why should anyone believe you have any credibility? What have you accomplished in your life you're proud of? Surely there's something which makes you believe you are so superior to the real people on here.

      Inquiring minds and all that, but you won't answer, you are who you are...

      And that's "Mr. Boy" to the likes of you.... :P

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Randy

      Boy, your father didn't teach any manners did he.

      Now you are out of control as a Mr. Nothing.

      Remember your 500 comments just like this one of yours, and that is on the record. Now what are you going to do here?

      Nothing!

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Brad s obviously insecure. He's probably either a skinny little dude or an obese porker who's wife--if he's lucky enough to have one--bullies him intensely. When he posts anonymously he's looking for some sort of respect from anyone at all.

      In his mind he wins all of the discussions and everyone else is inferior. As long as he doesn't let on what his real life is like, he convinces himself. Any fool can C&P from a site they agree with...

      Looking for credibility...but afraid to obtain it. I do indeed feel sorry for trolls...

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      From the Mueller Report Vol 2 verbatim!

      --------------------------------------------------

      Mueller's 2nd Potential Obstruction

      MO2A:

      Second: “In early March, the President told White House Counsel Donald McGahn to stop Sessions from recusing. And after Sessions announced his recusal on March 2,

      B2A:

      How does the phrase "In early March" relate to the recusal on March 2? Wouldn't it have been more accurate for the report to say, that "On March 1".

      --------------------------------------------

      MO2B:

      the President expressed anger at the decision and told advisors that he should have an Attorney General who would protect him.

      B2B:

      We need to see that context, as well as the exact statement that was deemed by Mueller as expressing anger, and how it was related to the decision of Session's recusal? We need that clarification to understand what "protect him" means.

      --------------------------------------------

      MO2C:

      That weekend, the President took Sessions aside at an event and urged him to ‘unrecuse’ …”

      B2C:

      I would say at this point, that Mueller didn't do a good job of chronology, if this is an example of it here. We don't know the year, and it would have been simple for Mueller to put March 1, 2017, and March 2, 2017 instead of early March, and then March 2 without the year.

      We know what happened because Sessions recused himself, and it wasn't good for the president or the country. It is well within the right of the president to expect that the person that he appointed and who was confirmed by congress should be doing his job.

      President Trump had appointed senator Jeff Sessions as Attorney General because Trump was loyal and appreciated the help that Sessions gave to him during the campaign. To expect loyalty from Sessions is not a bad thing, it is one of reciprocity.

      --------------------------------------------

      MO2D:

      Furthermore, Trump “reached out to the Director of National Intelligence and the leaders of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the National Security Agency (NSA) to ask them what they could do to publicly dispel the suggestion that the President had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.”

      B2D:

      Mueller is grasping at straws on this innuendo. These agencies are part of the Executive Branch and they work under the president of the United States, Donald Trump. President Trump didn't ask them to falsify anything, he just ask them to bring the truth about the Russian election interference effort.

      We now know that president Trump is fully exonerated in that investigation. That means we know that president Trump didn't do anything wrong, and all he wanted to do was have these agencies tell what they knew. This investigation was the fifth investigation on Trump and the Russians since 2016, and the first four came out with no evidence against president Trump. Now, we know that the fifth investigation by Mueller had the same results. Clearly, these agencies knew or should have known that there was no evidence against Trump or his campaign organization.

      MO2E:

      Then adding insult to injury, Trump called Comey directly despite being warned by McGahn to not contact the Justice Department.” If this does not show obstruction, I do not know what does. (Mueller Report)

      B2E

      The writer of this piece is definitely bias to the extent of being an anti Trumper, when he said if this doesn't show obstruction, then he doesn't know what does. I can tell him what does, it is something called evidence that can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it is obstruction. And he further uses his bias, by saying adding insult to injury, which is just his opinion.

      The fact is that McGahn works for the president, he is not the president and he can only advise the president. The president has every right to contact any agency or person that works for him. If what this writer says is true, then it would clearly mean that the Mueller investigation is truly adversely affecting the business of the president. That would be much worse that say Jeff Sessions recusing himself as Attorney General. It seems like this writer is implying that president Trump recuse himself from being president and let VP Mike Pence take over the presidency while the investigation was ongoing. I am sure that the left would like that, but the VP isn't who the people elected as president.

      There was no evidence that the president did anything illegal and the Mueller report exonerated him on the charges. To say that he is exonerated also implies that there was no intent to obstruct the investigation. The investigation never slowed down, and in fact it was intensified, and continued through and five months after the mid term election. The Mueller investigation in my opinion should have terminated in the summer, and any continuance after that can be construed as a political advantage for the left.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Leslie

      Another Rant!

      What does this have to do with impeaching Trump?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Sean Hannity showed up in Manafort’s emails....my my, the plot thickens.

      Such cozy relationships going on.

      https://observer.com/2018/01/sanctions-nunes-memo-...

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      "Brad: The principal has called you and Donny into the office for his lying, rude bullying, behavior and you as his parent make excuses for little Donny because you won't allow yourself to see what he is really like. So you tell the principal and all those who have witnessed what little Donny is really like to move to another school if they don't like his outlandish behavior, because they haven't given little Donny a chance. In the mean time little Donny continues to act out and you as his parent continue to make excuses for him."

      B:

      Congratulations you now have the Randy Award for Intelligence.

      You have better load up that one shot again. This one just dribble out of the gun.

      Do you have any valid arguments about the subject?

      NO, I didn't think so.

      If you can't refute my comments, then don't rebuke..

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Randy

      If you don't have anything on the subject to write, then don't write. And don't write it to me. Your writing has broken any scintilla of intelligence.

      You are the Nothing little man, you say nothing, you do nothing, you no nothing about the subject and you are just nothing.

      You keep with this insistence of wanting people to answer you asinine questions that are diversions from you answering the questions asked by others.

      Time to pack it in and move on, everyone thinks you are a nuisance, Nothing Man.

      Leslie at least mentions the subject on occasion, but not you. You have at least 500 comments that I know of where you don't have a clue about the subject and many of them are just name calling and putting people down. And no there is no comparison to what I do here because I comment on the subject, and I use their words verbatim so there is no confusion of what they said and what I am responding to in there comment.

      That is also how I made the Mueller opinion take down,

      How credible is it that the left tried to impeach him from the time he Won the election, and they keep doing it using anything and they keep failing? That doesn't sound like a valid reason to impeach.

      If you don't like a lot of words, tough, deal with it..

      I won't be so nice, if you keep calling me out just to harass me.

      Leslie

      When I comment on your rants, I give the exact words that you used to make them. But you and Randy just say things without reference.

      Saying what in two sentences. That is your problem you don't say anything in a whole series of two sentences.

      You people have a problem with details, the subject and making any kind of rational statements.

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: The principal has called you and Donny into the office for his lying, rude bullying, behavior and you as his parent make excuses for little Donny because you won't allow yourself to see what he is really like. So you tell the principal and all those who have witnessed what little Donny is really like to move to another school if they don't like his outlandish behavior, because they haven't given little Donny a chance. In the mean time little Donny continues to act out and you as his parent continue to make excuses for him.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yeah, and if that was a rant, he doesn’t know what a rant is.....I would direct him to read his posts.....now that is ranting.

      On and on and on and on.....

      Say it in 2 sentences. If you can’t, you’re not as smart as you think.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Brad, are the decider of what counts on HP? I don't remember any sort of election where you came out as such. So stop telling others what import their opinions are. You would be the last chosen for that position...

      You're certainly not a writer of any import, and you don't earn money for yourself or for HP, so exactly what makes you believe YOU are so brilliant? It's easy for this ole dirt farmer....so what's your excuse? Like I expect an answer....

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Leslie

      "Debbie Mucarsel-Powell works on impeachment, healthcare ...

      [Search domain www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article231112093.html] https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-governme...

      Miami Democrat Debbie Mucarsel-Powell got close to Nancy Pelosi and won a spot on the House Judiciary Committee. Now she must decide whether to impeach President Donald Trump while also working on ."

      B:

      What a surprise?

      The Democrats don't have a viable political platform so they continue with their 2018 political strategy. And that is all that trying to impeach president Trump is to democrats. They can't impeach him to get him out of office so they want to influence the 2020 presidential election with this democrat created cloud of impeachment which they created in 2016,

      What behavior are you talking about? Stop with the rants.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “Rep Debbie Mucarsel-Powell A member of House Judiciary Committee Just said She supports an impeachment inquiry against Trump

      "This President has engaged in behavior that we have not seen, nor would we have allowed, from the other 44 men who have occupied that office."

      That is what I keep saying......why the special treatment ? Get his butt in front of congress under oath! Not that it would matter with him, but at least the apologists couldn’t excuse it when he’s caught in a lie.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      "Brad: I'm not going to address your specific points, because all you are really doing is making excuses for Trump."

      Then I am not going to read the rest of your comment..

      My comment is that the democrat game is over, you have been tagged out trying to Steal America.

      Find a country more suited to your dislike of America.

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: I'm not going to address your specific points, because all you are really doing is making excuses for Trump. It wasn't that the polling people weren't doing their job, it was because Trump didn't like hearing the truth, that his polling numbers are low, so he fired them, just like on the Apprentice TV show

      Democrats don't have to jump on Trump. He is his own worst enemy. He creates problems and then he solves the same problems and claims that someone else created the problem. He has lost many of his cabinet members, not because he fired them, but because they quit.. They don't want to work for him and his crazy behavior. He is going to be left alone with only the people who are either too afraid to say something about him or they feel and think like him.

      He sent his armada to the Straits of Hormuz, thinking he could bully Iran into submission and it backfired, so he changed his tune, because instead of it being abstract numbers, like in the Art of the Deal he, saw that he could actually kill people. Welcome to the real world, so he backed down. He created the problem and he solved it, but he will blame it on Iran.

      He sees the children and their parents on the southern border as numbers and abstractions, not real people who are suffering and dying and being separated from their families. He only sees his wall that already exists. When he goes to the border he sees his wall, not the real people. He created the problem and will certainly blame it on others. He said he is going to deport 12 million illegal aliens. How does he plan on doing it?...by teleportation? He says things like that to feed his base. He doesn't have a clue as how to do it.

      You can parse this all you want, but I and many others in HP are not playing your game anymore. You just have never learned. People don't want tons of detail and you insulting them about their replies. They are too busy for that.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      George Stephanopoulos, did he say Mafia Boss?

      And with the democrats jumping on everything Trump does, says he will do and even thinks about doing, you wonder why Trump is guarded?

      You once again didn't address my specific points as usual.

      When someone isn't doing their job you are saying don't fire them!

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: All of your comments are just making excuses for Trump's self-aggrandizing bullying behavior. I didn't watch the interview for 30 hours. George S. was embedded with Trump for 30 hours. The program was on for one hour and you would know that if you wouldn't be so busy making excuses for him.

      You keep saying, let him do his job. I'm not stopping him from doing his job. I don't believe he knows what his job is other than protect himself from the opposition, so that he can get re-elected.

      The interview that I saw was like a mafia boss who had committed crimes being interviewed by a reporter who had evidence that he committed those crimes, but the boss tried to bully the reporter into thinking otherwise.

      At one point, George said Trump's ratings were very low in the polls. Trump immediately phoned his poll guys and they told him George was right. The next day three of Trump's top poll guys were fired.

      That's how he deals with things that are not going his way. Just like a mafia crime boss. He will lie about something that is known to be true and try to convince you that it is false. These are verifiable facts that you choose not to believe.

      Here is what you missed:

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-top-take...

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      Perrya: Trump is a bully. After watching his 30 hour interview with George Stephanopoulos, it has become clear to me that he lives in an alternate reality, where in his mind he thinks no matter what he does or says it is the right thing and everybody else who opposes him is wrong.

      B:

      He lives in a different life than you do? This is another of your emotional baseless vague, and ambiguous comments.

      You have claims to have no time to comment watches TV for 30 hours? And this is your comment?

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      And if you don't agree with him, he will try to bully you into submission. He bullied Iran and they punched him in the nose and he backed off. Just like any school yard bully would do. They called his bluff. And now he says their firing of a missile was a mistake...give me a break.

      B:

      President Trump couldn't have done anything that you would agree with because you would put him down.

      The break I will give you is to stop whining, you are retired so rest and let the president do his job.

      ---------------------------------

      Mistakes aren't made when firing missiles. I'm sure they have command and control systems just like any military and firing missiles has to be authorized by high level command.

      B:

      There you go again, you no want the US to go to war with Iran.

      Isn't that what you are saying here?

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      I also believe his bullying is what has caused so many of his cabinet members to leave.

      B

      Again, you are not the president, you are retired!

      ----------------------------------

      They just can't put up with his B.S. about how great he thinks he is. We don't even have a real Secretary of Defense. We have two hawks Bolton and Pompeo who are both itching to take us into a war.

      B:

      Give is up old man and let the president do his job.

      ---------------------------------

      Randy

      "we should take YOUR opinion over Mueller's, Brad? LOL! What qualifies YOU to second guess Bob's report?"

      B:

      I told you once before, don't write so that everyone will think you are brilliant. But you just keep making these childish, brainless and distracting comments.

      On Hp it is not who you are but what you say. And what you say is the equivalent of delirium. You don't know what is the subject, you don't add anything to the conversation, you keep chirping a one note comment that you created and is meaningless.

      If you have something on subject with enough detail to make it not vague, ambiguous and have some connection to facts, I would comment.

      First of all, you don't represent any "we", so stop writing for other people.

      Second, your don't understand much of anything, at least if we look at what you write.

      Third, Mueller's Report on Obstruction is only opinion.

      Fourth, I gave a detailed comment on why the Mueller opinion is not sufficient for evidence against Trump much less and indictment, and clearly not meeting the burden of the prosecution to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

      Fifth, Your use of laughing at comments is childish or a sign of senility.

      Sixth If you want to comment on my comment than refute what I say on each point.

      Seven Your continued commenting that is usually two sentences, and off the subject, and focused on some delusion of yours that you write for "we" makes you a problem for those that want to discuss the issues.

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      PerryA

      Recall how Trump slammed Obama for not attacking Syria when they crossed the line using chemical weapons. He called him all sorts of names,

      B:

      The reason he said that is because Obama left it for Trump. That is different here because Trump has to deal with Iran, and until there is another president that is the difference.

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      well, Iran downs a US drone, mines several oil tankers, missiles hit Saudi pipeline, and Trump blusters with stupid bravado. Calls for a strike on specific radar targets and calls it off when he finds out Iranians will be killed, no different than Obama. What do the Iranians need to do?

      B:

      So you like Mike want the US to go to war?

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Perrya: Trump is a bully. After watching his 30 hour interview with George Stephanopoulos, it has become clear to me that he lives in an alternate reality, where in his mind he thinks no matter what he does or says it is the right thing and everybody else who opposes him is wrong.

      And if you don't agree with him, he will try to bully you into submission. He bullied Iran and they punched him in the nose and he backed off. Just like any school yard bully would do. They called his bluff. And now he says their firing of a missile was a mistake...give me a break.

      Mistakes aren't made when firing missiles. I'm sure they have command and control systems just like any military and firing missiles has to be authorized by high level command.

      I also believe his bullying is what has caused so many of his cabinet members to leave. They just can't put up with his B.S. about how great he thinks he is. We don't even have a real Secretary of Defense. We have two hawks Bolton and Pompeo who are both itching to take us into a war.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Like I expected you to answer a question, Brad. I know your routine, as does everyone who makes the mistake of reading your BS.

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      perrya 

      9 months ago

      Recall how Trump slammed Obama for not attacking Syria when they crossed the line using chemical weapons. He called him all sorts of names, well, Iran downs a US drone, mines several oil tankers, missiles hit Saudi pipeline, and Trump blusters with stupid bravado. Calls for a strike on specific radar targets and calls it off when he finds out Iranians will be killed, no different than Obama. What do the Iranians need to do?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      This is way over impeachment. I just read that 3 agencies are looking into trump/ Kushner money laundering.....this whole Kavanaugh and Kennedy thing....mcconnell tied to Russian oligarchs.....graham and Rubio 360% turn......and a lot of them having ties to October surprise and Bill Clinton impeachment.......

      This is way too big for impeachment. This is criminal activity. Organized crime.

      Trump is keeping his freedom by using the presidency to protect himself.

      Barr is protecting him, as are most of the gop. The ones who quit, resigned, left town.....sorry. You must face the music, too.

      A hostile foreign power has us. This constitutional crisis is real. And they will stop at nothing, for they have everything to lose.

      Look at his supporters......that will give you a clue as to who he is.

      Plenty reside right here on hp.

      Mean, with guns. Military, do your thing.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Randy

      When you actually comment on something that I write then I will answer. Until then just make believe you are brilliant and just remain quiet.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      we should take YOUR opinion over Mueller's, Brad? LOL! What qualifies YOU to second guess Bob's report?

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      I don't see your comment refuting anything in my comment.

      No, You are the most patriotic!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Nadler says impeachment may not be the best way to deal with this. Constitutional crisis....”we are in it”. Pelosi has maintained this all along. “Let the committees do their work.”

      Trump is telling his gvt that Congress doesn't matter, only he does. The senate agrees with him....but of course, only cause it’s Trump. Back when Obama was prez, they said the presidency doesn’t matter, only congress does. This tea party/trump party is THE most unpatriotic bunch of traitors ever to disgrace this country! IMO.

      So no, don’t impeach. Nail that criminal traitor to the wall. He and his kids.

      And every single one that took money from Vlad and his oligarchs. Cause I remember reading long ago that Trump was handing it out like candy.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      M is from the Mueller Report

      B is my comment on it.

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      M15: The President's reaction to the continuing Russia investigation.

      B15: That is all that Mueller has to say. We know from Volume I that there was no connection between Trump and his campaign with the Russians. Wouldn’t any president trying to do his job be worried about the interference of being investigated, especially when they know they did nothing wrong.

      M15a: In February 2017, AG Jeff Sessions began to assess whether he had to recuse himself from campaign related investigations because of his role in the Trump Campaign.

      B15a: Once again, Volume I exonerates Trump and his campaign and every American. As it turns out, Sessions recusal is a big problem because president Trumps pick for the Attorney General is functionally not there.

      M15b: In early March, the President told WH Counsel Donald McGahn to stop Sessions from recusing.

      B15b: Sessions recusal is a big deal to president Trump and he believes that Sessions should have told him way earlier.

      M15c: And after Sessions announced his recusal on March 2, the President expressed anger at the decision and told advisors that he should have an AG who would protect him.

      B15c: Once again we have private information and no names attached to them. We don’t have the context to determine what president Trump meant by protecting him. It could mean having an Attorney General that is not part of the DOJ that Trump considers Obama loyalists in the swamp.

      M15d: That weekend, the President took Sessions aside at an event and urged him to "unrecuse."

      B15d: Again, this is something that any president would do. Urged is the same as asking, and there should be nothing wrong in asking.

      B16: At this point Comey is offering information about an ongoing FBI investigation, but at a later point in time Comey refused to comment on a Trump investigation. This seems to be inconsistent.

      Comey doesn’t offer the basis for this investigation. Nor were any details offered what were these efforts to interfere with the election. We now know that there was no Trump influence of the election, and we know that the Russian interference didn’t influence the election. It also didn’t favor Trump.

      Mueller didn’t investigate what Obama was doing about the alleged Russian election influence. This is important because president Obama told candidate Trump that there was no way that the election could be rigged, and then mocked him for suggesting it.

      It seems that Obama’s focus was on Trump the opponent to Obama's self proclaimed most qualified presidential candidate ever. Why didn’t Mueller follow the thread of what Obama was doing to protect the election. And it went from an election that couldn’t be rigged to one that the Russians and Trump rigged.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      "We only pick the best people" Another lie as proven many times over with the many "acting" cronies being the norm rather than the exception.

      "I know more than the generals." Another blatant lie for his fans to swallow...and they will.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Perry A

      Who cares? Fact or Fiction!

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      perrya 

      9 months ago

      Trump has some very disgraceful choices when it comes to those who surround him. Now that the Saudis premeditated the murder of the journalist and a recording stated this 13 min before he arrived at the Saudi embassy, it will be interesting to see how trump dismisses it to save arms deals and private business ventures. His choice for Secretary of defense shows he tolerates wife beaters with a baseball bat, unbelievable !

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Mike

      "Brad: "To anyone that can argue their points. " You really don't want people to argue their points."

      B:

      Mike I actually do want them to argue their points.. But none of them have any points and they do what you do which is go off subject and whine.

      ---------------------------------

      You want to bait them so that you can minimize their comments with what you consider your superior, self-righteous judgement and demands."

      B:

      I am not the one playing a game, you and the other Anti Trump Anti Americans are playing the game.

      Most of the time you don't even address the subject, so what kind of points do you have to Argue. None.

      The only demand I made was to argue your points. We can go over all your comments and I can show you what you do. But you already know that. This comment of yours is another example.

      --------------------------------------

      Mike

      "Brad: Here is a list of your comments from just this article:

      How is that a comparison to Investigating Trump?

      And how does you comment explain how you believe in the presumption of innocence?

      What does that even mean?

      Can you explain?

      B:

      This is yet another example that you don't have any points to argue. You take away the context of these statements and you ask can I explain. Go back to the context they were made and it is self explanatory.

      ------------------------------------

      I am sorry, but your statement is vague and ambiguous and it has no reference. I don't know so I can't comment.

      B:

      Again, what is the point of this comment when you take away the context.?

      --------------------------------

      Mike

      All the rest of your comment below is meaningless It is another of your diversions, and it is also asking more questions without context.

      You really don't seem to understand making a point. And name calling and responding to your equally childish and retarded friends. These friends don't even bother about the subject, they just want to name call, and make diversions. Are you really like these people?

      Your next comment will tell.

      ---------------------------------

      As far as you calling the investigation Faux, again that is just your opinion, unless you can provide proof.

      What started the investigation in the first place, can you tell me?

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      You are going off the emotional deep end.

      ""Why are you such a hateful, vindictive person that thinks Trump is bad?"

      Incoherent statement.

      More incoherent. If you want a question answered then make it coherent?

      Once again, you confuse the power of the president with that of a King.

      I already gave you my detailed answer.

      This is not a difference of opinion, this your lack of facts, It is always the same with the left, you ask them detailed questions, and they go through the list of 13 ways to not answer them.

      I take the time to write very detailed arguments, while you spend no time putting together your response.Go back in all your comments here and tell me what percentage you answered my comments?

      OH I am sorry, I have asked you to do something. Forget it.

      Not protecting borders is also what an enemy would like to see.

      Your list of 20 is an anti Trump rant filled with wild accusations and no proof. This list exists as a truth only in your mind.

      And you and your like minded are to enemies of the USA and you want to remove its core foundation of a democratic republic. The country and the American people don't have to fear president Trump, but they do have to fear anti Trumpers, who demonstrate they are also anti Americans

      They favor illegal aliens so the democrats will have a large new voter base. They give sanctuary to illegal aliens, including Convicted Illegal Alien Felons.

      What that means is the only reason that they are using impeachment is to gain political advantage.

      The only collusion was in the minds of democrats who wanted to impeach Trump.

      .Can you argue this obstruction, even using Mueller's rationale successfully?"

      It doesn't refute my statement that you also copied, thank you.

      Once again, Mueller failed!"

      ---------------------------------------------

      Now if you want answers, then go back to the comments where these were made, and see if you can figure it out.--------------------------------

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Here is a list of your comments from just this article:

      How is that a comparison to Investigating Trump?

      And how does you comment explain how you believe in the presumption of innocence?

      What does that even mean?

      Can you explain?

      I am sorry, but your statement is vague and ambiguous and it has no reference. I don't know so I can't comment.

      As far as you calling the investigation Faux, again that is just your opinion, unless you can provide proof.

      What started the investigation in the first place, can you tell me?

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      You are going off the emotional deep end.

      ""Why are you such a hateful, vindictive person that thinks Trump is bad?"

      Incoherent statement.

      More incoherent. If you want a question answered then make it coherent?

      Once again, you confuse the power of the president with that of a King.

      I already gave you my detailed answer.

      This is not a difference of opinion, this your lack of facts, It is always the same with the left, you ask them detailed questions, and they go through the list of 13 ways to not answer them.

      I take the time to write very detailed arguments, while you spend no time putting together your response.Go back in all your comments here and tell me what percentage you answered my comments?

      OH I am sorry, I have asked you to do something. Forget it.

      Not protecting borders is also what an enemy would like to see.

      Your list of 20 is an anti Trump rant filled with wild accusations and no proof. This list exists as a truth only in your mind.

      And you and your like minded are to enemies of the USA and you want to remove its core foundation of a democratic republic. The country and the American people don't have to fear president Trump, but they do have to fear anti Trumpers, who demonstrate they are also anti Americans

      They favor illegal aliens so the democrats will have a large new voter base. They give sanctuary to illegal aliens, including Convicted Illegal Alien Felons.

      What that means is the only reason that they are using impeachment is to gain political advantage.

      The only collusion was in the minds of democrats who wanted to impeach Trump.

      .Can you argue this obstruction, even using Mueller's rationale successfully?"

      It doesn't refute my statement that you also copied, thank you.

      Once again, Mueller failed!

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Apparently, he really isn't playing! :P

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Anti Trumpers

      This is a compilation of thousands of comments.

      ------------------------------------------------------------

      " going off the subject,

      making personal attacks,

      belittling what they consider are their opponents,

      answering questions with their own questions.

      redirecting the original comment to something different as a deflection, or diversion.

      name calling

      questioning in a derogatory manner even whether their opponent is even a person.

      questioning in a derogatory or condescending manner the qualification of their opponent.

      falsely claiming in a derogatory or condescending manner the their opponent is the problem

      responding with phrases like the opponent is wrong, or the information is wrong, or even stupid.

      claiming victory based on their current response, when their claim is insufficient

      making a claim that is just a statement, but it doesn’t give any details to substantiate it.

      claiming the opponent made a bad statement, but doesn’t giving any reference to prove it. It is basically their word alone that justifies their statement.

      Using the word FACT to be the same as a FACT but it is just their opinion

      Substituting their opinion as to what someone else is thinking, doing or guessing. Making possibilities into realties is not a fact, but their personal prediction of an outcome.

      making vague, ambiguous and non foundation statement

      "

      Let us see which one of these will be in your next comments here?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Read the report. Or don’t say you care about America.

      https://youtu.be/TbPrZOdnvhs

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Brad excels at playing dumb, but I often wonder if he's really playing...

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Go ahead play dumb. That's part of your strategy

      PP

      ?????????

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      Dean Traylor 

      9 months ago from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story)

      Spot on, mike.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      ?????????

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Well said, Mike. Brad acts as though no one but him can explain things to his satisfaction. There's a name for that, but it alludes me at the time...

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: "To anyone that can argue their points. " You really don't want people to argue their points. You want to bait them so that you can minimize their comments with what you consider your superior, self-righteous judgement and demands.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Comey was fired because Trump was afraid of him. End of story..

      It doesn't take a half page of BS to see this.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      To anyone that can argue their points.

      "Robert Mueller was made a special investigator less than a week after he met with ex FBI director James Comey.

      The meeting was just before Comey was to testify before congress.

      Comey already leaked information, he took supposedly from meeting with president Trump. Comey leaked them to a professor friend of his, who then leaked it to the New York Times.

      Because the New York Times didn’t steal it, they were allowed to publish it because it was newsworthy. This is no different than when WikiLeaks posted the Hillary Clinton deleted emails. But because this is about president Trump they don't question the leak. The professor, had no such protection, but yet no charges were filed against either the professor nor Comey.

      These were memorandum that Comey leaked, and they were not part of any official memo in the FBI. Comey even said to congress that he leaked through his friend for a number of reasons. He said that his purpose for leaking the information was to get a special investigator put into the investigation. This admission doesn't justify leaking this information. Once again, Comey now a private citizen had no color of title to leak this information.

      "

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      Here we go again with the PP dance, another diversion.

      I took the time to comment on each of your list items. And while they may be facts, they are not facts that make any point.

      Whine whine whine.

      I am not trying to convince of anything. I was trying to answer your comments as in a discussion. I don't have to agree with you or vice versa, but I give answers. You don't. It is simple as that.

      This is a pathetic and child act you continue to play.

      When you run out of answers, you and the left resort to this personal attack. Yes, I called you and the democrats unAmerican but it wasn't personal and it was supported by facts.

      I don't make any money on hp, never did. I don't need a club for people to like me, agree with with or do anything but just comment on the subject and try to make some arguments on the subject to be discussed.

      Please don't comment to me, unless you are willing to argue your points. Otherwise, we always end up this way. I spend the time and the effort to try and take you and the left seriously but this is always the result.

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: What I presented in my list are facts. You don't accept them. That's O.K. But you still haven't learned, You don't get people to answer your questions by overwhelming and inundating with your long winded comments and questions. You are not my teacher and you are not grading my papers. But that is the position you take. So you have turned me off and many others. What does that buy you?

      Here are some facts; You are not ever going to convince me to support Trump. I'm not going to convince you to see him for what he really is. The free press is not the fake news and the enemy of the people, demagoguery is and Trump is a demagogue...end of story.

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      Randy Godwin 

      9 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Gee whiz, does anyone read all brad's crap?

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      I did your list, please complete my original comment

      "Brad: We believe in the presumptions of innocence until proven guilty. However, with Hillary and the Benghazi investigation, Hillary was presumed guilty for seven years and the GOP finally gave up. Trey Gowdy and Jason Chafetz said, if Hillary were president, they would still continue the investigation.

      B:

      How is that a comparison to Investigating Trump?

      And how does you comment explain how you believe in the presumption of innocence?

      -----------------------------------------------

      You are hiding Trump behind the presumption of innocence, until there is a trial.

      B:

      What does that even mean?

      Can you explain?

      -------------------------

      We all know that; you are not telling us anything new

      B:

      Now you speak for more than yourself. Who are these unnamed others that you make it as "WE".

      I am sorry, but your statement is vague and ambiguous and it has no reference. I don't know so I can't comment.

      -------------------------

      . As far as you calling the investigation Faux, again that is just your opinion, unless you can provide proof.

      B:

      The PROOF is the failure after 5 investigations, including spying on Americans including Trump and his team.

      It was the democrats that kept opening the investigations, even when they found nothing. What is real about that? This is what they did during the Judge Kavanaugh hearing, and in the end they had nothing. But what they got out of it was political advantage,

      What started the investigation in the first place, can you tell me?

      ------------------------

      It is no more fake than Trump calling the MSM fake news. We are a country of laws, and not even the president is above the law.

      B:

      As it turned out MSM was fake news, as the president was totally exonerated of the charge that the democrats, and the MSM said he was guilty.

      What laws, you mean like the immigration laws where 20 million illegal aliens are above the law. Or the millions of homeless people that are on drugs, and CA gives them clean needles.

      Or when Comey changes the FBI report that says Hillary committed Gross Negligence under USC 793f to extremely careless and doesn't charge her. When it wasn't his decision to make as the FBI director, it was the DOJ AG. The FBI recommends, and the DOJ decides.

      ----------------------

      But that is where Trump likes to play right on the edge of breaking the law.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      --------------------

      And if he does break the law, then he has his lawyers to get him out the bind

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      ------------------

      , or he simply doesn’t play by the rules and tells his people to do the same.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      -----------------

      After he is out of office, we shall see how fake the investigation is and to whether he is guilty or not.

      B:

      The investigation will not change as to the charge of Russian Trump influence, will it.

      and the democrats are going to keep milking the Mueller failure for political advantage in the 2020 election like they did in 2018.

      The IG stated that the Hillary investigation was timed to end before the election, and that was when Comey obstructed justice by changing the FBI report to let her go.

      He had no choice to reopen the Hillary Investigation because the NY FBI unit weren't happy that he sat on the Huma Aberdin and Weiner and Hillary's emails on them. So that is why it was 10 days before the election. And the democrats wanted him fired for the same reason that Trump said he fired him.

      ---------------------------------

      You and Trump supporters could care less about Trump’s character as a president as long as he makes you think he is doing something for the country; that is all you care about. The country was already great. How is he making it great again? Where is his reference point for again?

      B:

      Don't give me that Democrat line that America was already great?

      The country had been in decline from the 70s and finally in 2008 it hit the bottom.

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement. about his supporters and his character.

      And he is making America great. He could make it even greater if the democrats would honor their oath to office and help him. I don't think resisting the president, and trying to impeach him for their political advantage is a great America.

      ----------------------------------------

      Trump is not a nice person. He is conceited, arrogant, self-centered, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting, and immoral, to name a few

      B:

      Name calling doesn't make it a fact and in the end it is just name calling. You lack facts, you lack reference, you lack results. And then you whine when I call you on it. This entire comment of your was just a blind rage emotional rant.

      ---------------------------------------

      . And it has nothing to do with resistance and Hillary losing the electoral college votes. But that doesn’t matter to you and his supporters, as long as he plays to your fantasies.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      It has everything to do with them.

      And what are my fantasies?

      -------------------------------------

      Now he wants to have a holiday for all the great deals he has made. What great deals? He is a divider of the country, not one who unites. That’s how he wins by plying people against each other, not by uniting the country.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      You are going off the emotional deep end.

      ---------------------------------------

      He was on Hollowed ground on D-day and what did he do? He picked a fight with Biden and Pelosi. He embarrassed the country, but that doesn’t matter to you, because, it is MAGA that is important. MAGA is one of his fantasies that he uses to divide the country.

      B:

      A country that has a political party that will do anything to impeach a sitting president, while doing nothing for America, Americans, or legal immigrants is the real embarrassment and it shows a disunited States instead of the Untied States of America.

      It is further embarrassing when the former president, and twice failed presidential candidate go around the world disrespecting the president but also the United States.

      You never answer my question why should sanctuaries be setup by the democrats to protect Convicted Illegal Alien Felons?

      -------------------

      The news is FAKE because even in its titles it includes conclusions and opinions. That is not Journalism, other the Yellow Journalism.

      We the reader need the details and the facts to make our own conclusions, and not that of someone that is biased like you are here.

      ------------------

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      1. The Muelller investigation is completed.

      2. I don’t care how the investigation started. Answering you question on how the investigation started is an exercise in futility.

      3. Vol 1 states that Trump did not collude with Russia in influencing the election.

      4. Vol 2 gives 10 instances of Trump trying to obstruct the investigation.

      5. Vol 2 states that if Trump was not a sitting president, he could be tried to determine his innocence or guiltiness.

      6. Vol 2 states that he is not exonerated of those 10 charges.

      7. Trump is now investigating the investigators.

      8. It’s the same thing he did with Obama’s birther charges and fraudulent elections. They stay open-ended with no conclusion, but Trump uses them as propaganda in the beginning of his accusations.

      9. It is now up to congress to continue where Mueller left off.

      10. Trump will not be impeached, because there is no support from the senate.

      11. You hate democrats and liberals and especially the Clinton's and Obama. You blame them for everything that you find bad about the country.

      12. People who don’t support Trump are not un-American, terrorists or unpatriotic.

      13. Trump calls the free press the fake news and the enemy of the people. That is what dictators do to divide and control a country.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Leslie

      You don't read comments, you just dispense the noise in your head and think it is responsive.

      I try to answer your comments but they are just rants.

      "People that work for the president work for us"

      Technically all the government work for us, but they don't take direct orders from us. That is why we elect people. You miss the important difference.

      In your mind, you think your statement is meaningful, but as written here, it just shows you don't understands this country.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      People that work for the president work for us.

      This is not trump inc.

      People dont get fired at his whim.

      We dont operate at his whim.

      There are 60% of us that disagree with him. What will you do....lock us all up?

      Get over yourself.

      If you read the Mueller report and approve of a president acting this way, nothing you say has any merit!

      And weird stuff has always happened with my computers around this site. And plenty of people are savvy to it.

      Like cops and such.

      Ill just repeat, if you read the report, and still support trump, there is nothing more to say.

      Enjoy the destruction.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      People that work for the president of the United States serve at the president's pleasure.

      A president doesn't need a real reason to fire his people but, the way that Comey handled the Hillary Clinton investigation was pathetic. The democrats only had a problem with Comey and reopening her investigation before the election and wanted him fired, then when he was fired by president Trump, the democrats then started with attacking president Trump and saying he fired Comey to obstruct the investigation of him. Although, Comey publically said that Trump wasn't being investigated. And the Mike Flynn investigation didn't stop when Comey got fired.

      Then Hillary and the democrats would then use this as another reason why Trump won the election. They want to make Trump retroactively responsible for Hillary losing the race which happened when Obama was president and not when Trump was even president elect.

      When president Trump fired Comey on May 17, 2016 this became the democrats reason for the Russian Trump interference in the 2016 presidential election as it related to a Possible Collusion with the 2016 Donald Trump campaign and to get a special counsel.

      Let us look at this more closely. The words say Russian interference with the election but the real reason is to implicate the winner of the presidential election Donald Trump. For the past three years none of the five investigations on the Russians came up with anything that influenced the election. And if there was any influence in the election, why didn’t they consider Hillary Clinton’s winning the popular vote by more than 3 million votes an influence.

      When Donald Trump mentioned that he was worried about the election being rigged, president Obama attacked him for saying that. Obama said that there is NO way for the election to be rigged. He said that when he was sure that Hillary Clinton would become the president. He even mocked Trump and told him to worry about his own campaign.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Leslie

      Get some sleep and then read your comment?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Trump’s a member of organized crime. Hillary’s assistant deleted private emails.

      Who did the fbi rat on to change the election ?

      Hint: not trump

      Rosenstein defended Barr. An obvious shill move. No honesty in there. Probably cya. Because, he did write the cover letter for trump, remember?

      Then ole trump gues on tv And says “I was going to fire Comey regardless”

      Derp

      That’s enough to answer, your demands are exausting. And something weird going on with typing.....no keyboard showing, butvthe letters show up....like invisible typing. Weird

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Brad: We believe in the presumptions of innocence until proven guilty. However, with Hillary and the Benghazi investigation, Hillary was presumed guilty for seven years and the GOP finally gave up. Trey Gowdy and Jason Chafetz said, if Hillary were president, they would still continue the investigation.

      B:

      How is that a comparison to Investigating Trump?

      And how does you comment explain how you believe in the presumption of innocence?

      -----------------------------------------------

      You are hiding Trump behind the presumption of innocence, until there is a trial.

      B:

      What does that even mean?

      Can you explain?

      -------------------------

      We all know that; you are not telling us anything new

      B:

      Now you speak for more than yourself. Who are these unnamed others that you make it as "WE".

      I am sorry, but your statement is vague and ambiguous and it has no reference. I don't know so I can't comment.

      -------------------------

      . As far as you calling the investigation Faux, again that is just your opinion, unless you can provide proof.

      B:

      The PROOF is the failure after 5 investigations, including spying on Americans including Trump and his team.

      It was the democrats that kept opening the investigations, even when they found nothing. What is real about that? This is what they did during the Judge Kavanaugh hearing, and in the end they had nothing. But what they got out of it was political advantage,

      What started the investigation in the first place, can you tell me?

      ------------------------

      It is no more fake than Trump calling the MSM fake news. We are a country of laws, and not even the president is above the law.

      B:

      As it turned out MSM was fake news, as the president was totally exonerated of the charge that the democrats, and the MSM said he was guilty.

      What laws, you mean like the immigration laws where 20 million illegal aliens are above the law. Or the millions of homeless people that are on drugs, and CA gives them clean needles.

      Or when Comey changes the FBI report that says Hillary committed Gross Negligence under USC 793f to extremely careless and doesn't charge her. When it wasn't his decision to make as the FBI director, it was the DOJ AG. The FBI recommends, and the DOJ decides.

      ----------------------

      But that is where Trump likes to play right on the edge of breaking the law.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      --------------------

      And if he does break the law, then he has his lawyers to get him out the bind

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      ------------------

      , or he simply doesn’t play by the rules and tells his people to do the same.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      -----------------

      After he is out of office, we shall see how fake the investigation is and to whether he is guilty or not.

      B:

      The investigation will not change as to the charge of Russian Trump influence, will it.

      and the democrats are going to keep milking the Mueller failure for political advantage in the 2020 election like they did in 2018.

      The IG stated that the Hillary investigation was timed to end before the election, and that was when Comey obstructed justice by changing the FBI report to let her go.

      He had no choice to reopen the Hillary Investigation because the NY FBI unit weren't happy that he sat on the Huma Aberdin and Weiner and Hillary's emails on them. So that is why it was 10 days before the election. And the democrats wanted him fired for the same reason that Trump said he fired him.

      ---------------------------------

      You and Trump supporters could care less about Trump’s character as a president as long as he makes you think he is doing something for the country; that is all you care about. The country was already great. How is he making it great again? Where is his reference point for again?

      B:

      Don't give me that Democrat line that America was already great?

      The country had been in decline from the 70s and finally in 2008 it hit the bottom.

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement. about his supporters and his character.

      And he is making America great. He could make it even greater if the democrats would honor their oath to office and help him. I don't think resisting the president, and trying to impeach him for their political advantage is a great America.

      ----------------------------------------

      Trump is not a nice person. He is conceited, arrogant, self-centered, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting, and immoral, to name a few

      B:

      Name calling doesn't make it a fact and in the end it is just name calling. You lack facts, you lack reference, you lack results. And then you whine when I call you on it. This entire comment of your was just a blind rage emotional rant.

      ---------------------------------------

      . And it has nothing to do with resistance and Hillary losing the electoral college votes. But that doesn’t matter to you and his supporters, as long as he plays to your fantasies.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      It has everything to do with them.

      And what are my fantasies?

      -------------------------------------

      Now he wants to have a holiday for all the great deals he has made. What great deals? He is a divider of the country, not one who unites. That’s how he wins by plying people against each other, not by uniting the country.

      B:

      Another vague, ambiguous and no reference statement.

      You are going off the emotional deep end.

      ---------------------------------------

      He was on Hollowed ground on D-day and what did he do? He picked a fight with Biden and Pelosi. He embarrassed the country, but that doesn’t matter to you, because, it is MAGA that is important. MAGA is one of his fantasies that he uses to divide the country.

      B:

      A country that has a political party that will do anything to impeach a sitting president, while doing nothing for America, Americans, or legal immigrants is the real embarrassment and it shows a disunited States instead of the Untied States of America.

      It is further embarrassing when the former president, and twice failed presidential candidate go around the world disrespecting the president but also the United States.

      You never answer my question why should sanctuaries be setup by the democrats to protect Convicted Illegal Alien Felons?

      -------------------

      The news is FAKE because even in its titles it includes conclusions and opinions. That is not Journalism, other the Yellow Journalism.

      We the reader need the details and the facts to make our own conclusions, and not that of someone that is biased like you are here.

      ------------------

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: We believe in the presumptions of innocence until proven guilty. However, with Hillary and the Benghazi investigation, Hillary was presumed guilty for seven years and the GOP finally gave up. Trey Gowdy and Jason Chafetz said, if Hillary were president, they would still continue the investigation.

      You are hiding Trump behind the presumption of innocence, until there is a trial. We all know that; you are not telling us anything new. As far as you calling the investigation Faux, again that is just your opinion, unless you can provide proof. It is no more fake than Trump calling the MSM fake news. We are a country of laws, and not even the president is above the law. But that is where Trump likes to play right on the edge of breaking the law. And if he does break the law, then he has his lawyers to get him out the bind, or he simply doesn’t play by the rules and tells his people to do the same. After he is out of office, we shall see how fake the investigation is and to whether he is guilty or not.

      You and Trump supporters could care less about Trump’s character as a president as long as he makes you think he is doing something for the country; that is all you care about. The country was already great. How is he making it great again? Where is his reference point for again?

      Trump is not a nice person. He is conceited, arrogant, self-centered, self-aggrandizing, self-promoting, and immoral, to name a few. And it has nothing to do with resistance and Hillary losing the electoral college votes. But that doesn’t matter to you and his supporters, as long as he plays to your fantasies. Now he wants to have a holiday for all the great deals he has made. What great deals? He is a divider of the country, not one who unites. That’s how he wins by plying people against each other, not by uniting the country.

      He was on Hollowed ground on D-day and what did he do? He picked a fight with Biden and Pelosi. He embarrassed the country, but that doesn’t matter to you, because, it is MAGA that is important. MAGA is one of his fantasies that he uses to divide the country.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Leslie

      When ever there is an award show on TV what do the anti Trumpers say?

      When a democrat holds a replica of Trump's severed head what does that mean.

      Did you hear your democrats on the View?

      Did you listen to Colbert, SNL and the rest of the talk show hosts?

      The democrats have done nothing but resist Trump, and when they are in congress they are not doing their job, they are doing work for their party.

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      Comey investigated Hillary, but he didn’t have to tell us 10 days before the election. He never mentioned they were investigating trump, did he?

      B:

      He cleared her twice by obstructing justice.

      Why should the FBI have been investigating Trump.

      Why did Obama mock Trump when Trump said he thought that the election was rigged?

      Why didn't president Obama do something about the alleged Russian interference with the election in the summer way before the election.

      -------------------------------------------

      Think that would have made a difference? He threw the election to trump.

      B:

      What Comey did was keep Hillary from going to jail, thereby keeping her in the election. Comey had sat for a month on emails found on Huma Aberdin, and Anhthony Weiner he had to make it public because the real FBI in NY was not happy with him keeping it secret.

      ---------------------------------------

      And Rosenstein was team trump all along.

      B:

      He appointed Mueller how is that team Trump?

      You really need to use words the define a question, that is if you want people to understand what you are talking about.

      -----------------------------------------

      Mueller won’t testify?

      Awful chummy if you ask me.

      B:

      What is Mueller going to testify about?

      -----------------------------------------

      But trumpers keep crying how the deep state got Hillary off...

      B:

      Hillary got off because the DOJ and the FBI had corrupt leaders following the beat from Obama.

      -------------------------------------------

      Not seeing it. At all.

      B:

      Again, incoherent statement.

      ------------------------------------

      Leslie McCowen

      Comey is a Republican. Rosenstein is a Republican. Mueller is a Republican.

      B:

      Because all three have registered as a democrat, and they have served under both republican and democrat administrations doesn't mean anything.

      They were all working and biased against Trump.

      Contrast the investigation by Comey on Hillary and then Trump?

      I won't go over it again, and again. You either didn't read my previous comments or you just ignored them.

      Not the same investigation. And when Mueller investigated Trump he found no crime. And he hired 17 All democrat prosecutors and ones that even supported Hillary.

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      What is this democratic deep state?

      B:

      Who said it was democrat?

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      Leslie McCowen

      62 minutes ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Trump is closing our borders and criminalizing abortion. That is not centrist, that’s far right.

      B:

      What is your interest in abortion?

      Why should we have open borders?

      Why should we favor illegal aliens over Americans and America.

      Why do democrats setup sanctuaries for Convicted Illegal Alien Felons?

      What Trump has been doing is looking out for the interests of Americans, Legal Immigrants, and protecting our borders.

      That is something that neither the republican nor democrat presidents have done.

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      I gave you answers and details in my last comment and you ignore them, and throw in distractions.

      and no one challenged this comment

      "PerryA

      "AUTHOR

      perrya

      30 hours ago

      Trump acts like a king, acting on his own hunch, not consulting real experienced people,

      B:

      Since the 60s the US has been in decline because of all those brilliant politicians that became president, and it culminated into a repeat of the 1929 Great Depression. All these experienced people ignored the economy during the two year presidential campaign. And it hit right before the 2008 election.

      Then two presidents, and their congresses bailed out the people and the corporations that caused the economy to fail. But they left out the victims of the economic failure. These are your experienced advisors, and the victims lost their jobs, their homes and their savings. The IRS then went to tax many of the victims on their equity loans when the banks forgave their loans. The bailout money was also used by the upper management of the bankrupt companies to give themselves 7 figures bonuses. Why, because the were key employees. Really, their key was bankrupting the company.

      The point is that these real experienced people are behind more of the failures and they are mere advisers, the final decision is the president, and that is Trump.

      -----------------------------------------------------

      " for example, the tariff on mexico, all advisers were against it, That is an action of a monarch."

      B:

      Once again, you confuse the power of the president with that of a King.

      The tariff on Mexico will do more damage to Mexico than on the US. Seriously, we are getting produce from around the world, and Mexico is just one of them. California grows and supplies produce so we aren't in any danger.

      The 5 month escalation of tariffs from 5 to 25 percent will bring Mexico to a stalled economy. Yet, you are betting on the other team, that doesn't seem like Americans to me.

      How said the impeachment was never about justice for Trump breaking the law because now that he has been exonerated after 5 investigations the left wants to continue with impeachment, just like they kept whining about Trump cheating Hillary out of the presidency. And we know for a fact that both of these accusations are not true.

      The left wanted him out the day after the election. They created the collusion, they created that he lies about everything, and they have no political platform for 2020 other than we don't like Trump, and Trump is bad, but they don't have any facts to support it, so they lie, and keep pushing for impeachment just to get political advantage in the election.

      They don't support the country or the people. They want open borders to allow their new race of democrat voters, that will be beholding to them because of their extensive handouts and protecting them with sanctuaries.

      We have a homeless and a drug problem that the left ignores, while working desperately for the illegal aliens, and the terrorists.

      ---------------------------------------

      Mueller should have closed the investigation last summer, as he didn't find any new information from that point. There was no reason other than politics to continue it to and through the election. As it influenced the election, and then 5 months after the election it now is trying to influence the 2020 election.

      "

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Comey investigated Hillary, but he didn’t have to tell us 10 days before the election. He never mentioned they were investigating trump, did he?

      Think that would have made a difference? He threw the election to trump.

      And Rosenstein was team trump all along.

      Mueller won’t testify?

      Awful chummy if you ask me.

      But trumpers keep crying how the deep state got Hillary off.......

      Not seeing it. At all.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Comey is a Republican. Rosenstein is a Republican. Mueller is a Republican.

      What is this democratic deep state?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Trump is closing our borders and criminalizing abortion. That is not centrist, that’s far right.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “You mistake not wanting Hillary as president for hate.”

      Really? I don’t know, I saw real hate out there. Calling her Satan. Hillary-Killary. You don’t call Bush a killer do you? Lots of people died in Iraq. Do you call Trump a killer?people die in drone strikes just like with Obomber.

      T shirts that call her a c* nt. That’s not hate? People here on hubpages calling her a b* tch, a monster..... I see hate.

      You, of course deny the hatred of Hillary, but expect sympathy for Trump when people hate him.

      Hillary did not call all Trump voters deplorable. She said there was a basket of them: Racist, misogynists, homophobes.

      Trump, on the other hand, says democrats execute babies and don’t love America.

      And here’s what the president does on social media

      https://youtu.be/i-F2cJSNb0g

      Would you call that hate, or love? Knowing trumpers, they’d say Hillary deserves it.

      But it’s not hate, oh no.

      Get real. It’s hate. And trump revels in it.

      Lock her up.......means throw her in jail. What, that’s suddenly insulting now? Sure it is, cause now its said about trump. Now it’s hate. Lock her up was love! Godly love!

      Please.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Comey Fired

      Do you believe that James Comey upheld his FBI oath when he investigated Hillary Clinton

      0% Yes. and I am a democrat

      0% Yes, and I am not a democrat

      0% No. and I am a democrat

      100% No, and I am not a democrat

      4 people have voted in this poll.

      What Is ComeyLand?

      It is called Comeyland because

      Robert Mueller wouldn't have been named special counsel without Comey

      Comey was a giant like in Jack and the Beanstalk

      it has all the attractions and rides of an amusement park

      like Walt Disney and Fantasy Land you name the park after the creator.

      Commyland was already used by the USSR

      Comey didn't follow the America Law, so he used the laws of Comey Land.

      everything is all about James Comey, just ask him.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      Leslie

      The mistress of incoherence and diversion.

      ""Why are you such a hateful, vindictive person that thinks Trump is bad?"

      B:

      This is a question that i asked the left about Trump, now you are turning it around for me without answering my question.

      -------------------------------------------

      Lol! His supporters are much like him . Remember how bad Trump hated hillary, and they still do? But they're entitled. You're not. Youre a bad bad boy for not genuflecting to Trump.

      B:

      Incoherent statement.

      --------------------------

      Not one of them has a sense of self reflection, nor honesty or decency for that matter.

      B:

      More incoherent. If you want a question answered then make it coherent?

      ------------------------

      My dad died before the Tea Party came along.....but he used to call the far right reactionaries.

      B:

      Actually the reason that I liked president Trump is that he is a centrist, You think he is far right, why? He wants to MAGA, and that means going back to the center after GW Bush and Barack Obama took us to the outer limits of right and left.

      ------------------------------------.

      Brad, can you be honest.....why is it ok for you to hate Hillary but its not ok for anyone to hate Trump?"

      B:

      You mistake not wanting Hillary as president for hate. But we definitely don't want a president like her that with president Barack Obama took down Libya causing major unrest there, and lead to the Benghazi coverup by Clinton.

      She as Sec of State tried to BS her way past what she caused in Benghazi. She blamed a video, and we know that wasn't true. She gave no backup to save our Ambassador and his people.

      She and Obama did nothing to the attackers that invaded a piece of America, and that is what is an embassy.

      She did these things in office, while the acts she committed as SOS caused her to be investigated it showed that she did other illegal acts.

      And when did Trump ever call all the voters of Hillary as Deplorables?

      Most of the left has to go back past a decade to find anything to say bad about Trump. Unlike Hillary and Barack Trump wasn't in politics when they caused the problems for the country. He wasn't in politics when both the left and the right caused problems in our country and around the world. That is the biggest difference.

      When Trump became president, he Inherited all these problems he didn't cause them. Yet, the left immediately accused him of them as if he actually did them.

      Many democrats voted for Hillary simply because they thought it was time for a woman president, just like many voted for Obama because he was not white in color. He parlayed his 50% Black into full on black for political reasons.

      The reason to vote for someone, anyone as president is to pick the best candidate not physical attributes.

      Remember what the democrats did to McCains VP choice. But you were OK because?

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      "Brad: What did Obama and Hillary do personally to you? And what has Trump personally done for you?

      PP

      You are going to parrot my question that you haven't answered and turn it around on me. Don't you have any independent thoughts of your own.

      ----------------------------------

      Volume 2 of the report lays out 10 instances of obstruction of justice for Trump. The report states that if Trump wasn't president he could be tried based on the evidence provided. Don't play dumb. You know that to be the case. You said you read the report.

      PP

      You are the one being dumb, I commented on it and gave detailed reasons why it was just Mueller's opinion, Once again, you didn't comment on it and now you play this again.

      -----------------------------------

      My minor comment in the last reply is just like your ropa-dope replies. where people answer your questions and you state their is no context or there is nothing compelling in what they said. Your comment about expansion and slow down is only your opinion unless you can provide context and measurement...How do you like it?"

      PP

      It is a minor point, and you didn't comment on the major points. You are distracting and diverting by make a big deal about something that was meant as an aside.

      You could have commented on the main points of my previous comment, but you don't, why is that.

      Mueller's volume II is only his opinion. Until there can be a verdict of guilty for his 10 alleged obstructions of justice, it is only his opinion. We live in a country that still believes in the presumption of innocence.

      Once again, I will explain that even the indictments against 13 Russians that have plead not guilty is just Mueller's opinion. That opinion won't be changed to facts until there is a guilty verdict in a court of law. Once again, the criminal justice system still has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty BEYOND a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

      Why don't you and your democrats believe in the presumption of innocence?

      ----------------------------

      PP

      Once again, Volume II is Mueller's opinion on Obstruction, and even though he claims it contains evidence, it really doesn't do that.

      Mueller FAILED because Trump didn't do anything illegal.

      ------------------------------

      PP

      Here is my previous comment that you didn't comment on and there is yet another one that I directed to PerryA and neither one of you commented on it.

      "A Faux Investigation is the Mueller Investigation, it started after 4 investigations had already shown that Trump was exonerated from any charges of Russian Trump Influence of the Election.

      Then after 2 years and a very full, extensive, expansive and costly investigation Mueller found what the other 4 investigations found, NOTHING?

      In light of 5 investigations, there should have been an apology to Trump from Congress. But instead congress is now once again talking impeachment for obstructing the investigation. Seriously, how did the investigation even slow down, in fact it expanded under Mueller."

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      Leslie McCowen 

      9 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "Why are you such a hateful, vindictive person that thinks Trump is bad?"

      Lol! His supporters are much like him . Remember how bad Trump hated hillary, and they still do?

      But they're entitled. You're not. Youre a bad bad boy for not genuflecting to Trump.

      Not one of them has a sense of self reflection, nor honesty or decency for that matter.

      My dad died before the Tea Party came along.....but he used to call the far right reactionaries.

      Brad, can you be honest.....why is it ok for you to hate Hillary but its not ok for anyone to hate Trump?

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: What did Obama and Hillary do personally to you? And what has Trump personally done for you?

      Volume 2 of the report lays out 10 instances of obstruction of justice for Trump. The report states that if Trump wasn't president he could be tried based on the evidence provided. Don't play dumb. You know that to be the case. You said you read the report.

      My minor comment in the last reply is just like your ropa-dope replies. where people answer your questions and you state their is no context or there is nothing compelling in what they said. Your comment about expansion and slow down is only your opinion unless you can provide context and measurement...How do you like it?

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      PP

      Is that all you got out of my comment.

      You take a very minor point and you make it your comment?

      Off the hook, no evidence in 5 investigations that is the point.

      This was a democrat fake investigation, just like the one they did with Judge Kavanaugh. The proof it is fake is there was no evidence found.

      Why are you such a hateful, vindictive person that thinks Trump is bad? What personally did Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama do for you, and what did Trump do to you?

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      Mike Russo 

      9 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      B: Seriously, how did the investigation even slow down, in fact it expanded under Mueller.

      M: Slowed down and expanded are relative terms. What are you measuring them against? Without a measurement, they are just your opinion and an excuse to get Trump off the hook.

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      Brad 

      9 months ago

      A Faux Investigation is the Mueller Investigation, it started after 4 investigations had already shown that Trump was exonerated from any charges of Russian Trump Influence of the Election.

      Then after 2 years and a very full, extensive, expansive and costly investigation Mueller found what the other 4 investigations found, NOTHING?

      In light of 5 investigations, there should have been an apology to Trump from Congress. But instead congress is now once again talking impeachment for obstructing the investigation. Seriously, how did the investigation even slow down, in fact it expanded under Mueller.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Vote the bastards out.

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      PerryA

      "AUTHOR

      perrya

      30 hours ago

      Trump acts like a king, acting on his own hunch, not consulting real experienced people,

      B:

      Since the 60s the US has been in decline because of all those brilliant politicians that became president, and it culminated into a repeat of the 1929 Great Depression. All these experienced people ignored the economy during the two year presidential campaign. And it hit right before the 2008 election.

      Then two presidents, and their congresses bailed out the people and the corporations that caused the economy to fail. But they left out the victims of the economic failure. These are your experienced advisors, and the victims lost their jobs, their homes and their savings. The IRS then went to tax many of the victims on their equity loans when the banks forgave their loans. The bailout money was also used by the upper management of the bankrupt companies to give themselves 7 figures bonuses. Why, because the were key employees. Really, their key was bankrupting the company.

      The point is that these real experienced people are behind more of the failures and they are mere advisers, the final decision is the president, and that is Trump.

      -----------------------------------------------------

      " for example, the tariff on mexico, all advisers were against it, That is an action of a monarch."

      B:

      Once again, you confuse the power of the president with that of a King.

      The tariff on Mexico will do more damage to Mexico than on the US. Seriously, we are getting produce from around the world, and Mexico is just one of them. California grows and supplies produce so we aren't in any danger.

      The 5 month escalation of tariffs from 5 to 25 percent will bring Mexico to a stalled economy. Yet, you are betting on the other team, that doesn't seem like Americans to me.

      How said the impeachment was never about justice for Trump breaking the law because now that he has been exonerated after 5 investigations the left wants to continue with impeachment, just like they kept whining about Trump cheating Hillary out of the presidency. And we know for a fact that both of these accusations are not true.

      The left wanted him out the day after the election. They created the collusion, they created that he lies about everything, and they have no political platform for 2020 other than we don't like Trump, and Trump is bad, but they don't have any facts to support it, so they lie, and keep pushing for impeachment just to get political advantage in the election.

      They don't support the country or the people. They want open borders to allow their new race of democrat voters, that will be beholding to them because of their extensive handouts and protecting them with sanctuaries.

      We have a homeless and a drug problem that the left ignores, while working desperately for the illegal aliens, and the terrorists.

      ---------------------------------------

      Mueller should have closed the investigation last summer, as he didn't find any new information from that point. There was no reason other than politics to continue it to and through the election. As it influenced the election, and then 5 months after the election it now is trying to influence the 2020 election.

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    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      10 months ago

      What is plan B should the impeachment simply stall and just acquitted? The Dems better have a effing good one!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Straight up rush/Klannity/ levin/jones/breitbart.

      In other words, birdcage liner.

      Isn’t 30 years of smearing lies enough?

      I mean.....whitewater/travel gate/ foster gate/Benghazi/emails......all of it gone through with a fine toothed comb BY REPUBLICANS.

      Accused of being Satan, a monster, a lesbian witch, a paedophile.....I mean, do you ever look at yourselves? Seriously, do you?

      Your questions are not questions. They are demands for affirmation, and I. Do. Not. Agree. With. ANYTHING. You. Say.

      All your smears have been debunked time and time again. But you come back with them as if you just invented the wheel.

      And let’s not think how absolutely hurtful you all have been for 30 years. Starting with the Arkansas Group of 1% ers who hated this couple who challenged their worldview.

      Hearing Rush Limbaugh’s menace towards them was shocking. And now I’m just numb to the mean.

      So, no. You all have zero credibility, zero honesty, zero integrity. Only hate and resentment that the world has moved beyond you and your god. Man is not supreme....sorry. Hate Hillary all you want. Her pinky finger is smarter than Trump.

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      Leslie

      You don't read my comments, and then you dispense this hateful, emotional diatribe that contain no facts, and a language that is cryptic enough to need a cipher.

      Once again, Bill and Hillary did something in office. And Trump didn't do anything. Obstruction when the Mueller the investigations lasted 3 years.

      Bill used the WH as a motel.

      Hillary was responsible for 4 dead people at the embassy in Benghazi after her and Obama did a regime change in Libya. Then while under investigation that found her private email server.

      Then they found her deleted emails containing not personal emails but SOS emails, and some of them were classified.

      Her email investigations were stopped before the election?

      You don't answer my questions, what do you think impeaching president Trump will do?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Non answer. I’ll tell you what they’d say. They’d call her a traitor and move to impeach.

      They already had hearings planned for her if she was prez. They’re still looking into her and Obama.

      So spare me the trump tears.

      If it was Obama, they would crucify him.

      You’re all such babies, I swear.

      Get him in front of congress and answer questions like both bill and Hillary had to do. He’s not special, and neither are all of you.

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      Leslie

      "Court? It’s not for the courts, it’s for Congress."

      B:

      I already gave you my detailed answer.

      --------------------------------------------

      Let me ask.....if Hillary said “Iran if you’re listening, I’d like hacked rnc emails made public”.....

      B:

      I don't see the correlation, Iran?

      But, what did Trump do that was illegal?

      And what shouldn't the public known about those emails. What was in them that you are concerned about?

      Are we talking about the emails she deleted?

      If so, then they should have already been in the hands of congress and they could have gone public.

      Do you think they should that she did something criminal.

      I am trying to determine why you think that these emails were important?

      ---------------------------------------------------

      I wonder what you trumpers would say?

      B:

      We are just deplorables, what do we know?

      Tell me what you think that the democrats impeaching president Trump will do?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Its really not arguing. It’s yelling past each othe! Hahaha. I never listen to them. They’ve said nothing new since being on the Internet 2006. Nor have I.

      But given the deteriorating state of America, it needs to be done.

      Silence= complicity.

      And I’ve seen quite enough of the damage that they do.

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      Randy Godwin 

      10 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Hopeless to argue with ole C&P, Leslie. He's earning his keep...

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Court? It’s not for the courts, it’s for Congress.

      Let me ask.....if Hillary said “Iran if you’re listening, I’d like hacked rnc emails made public”.....

      I wonder what you trumpers would say?

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      Nothing is obvious, and there is no evidence, no indictments, and therefore no court decisions. Anything else is just rhetoric.

      It is like writing a check when you don't have the money to cover it.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Ivana. Darn auto correct!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Plenty of evidence.

      There are 2 signed affidavits.

      One, Ivana, dropped it because Trump threatened to take the kids off his inheritance.

      Two, dropped because of death threats she received from Trump associates(the mob)

      Allegedly.

      But the proof of obstruction is obvious. Only those in deep denial refuse to admit it. Sorry for you.

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      NO Evidence, no indictment, and the house controlled by the democrats doesn't need anything to impeach him. But it won't happen in the senate.

      Where is the DNA type evidence showing Bill Clinton used the WH as a cheap motel for Trump. There is none!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      He is now. Charge him with obstruction of justice and impeach the bum.

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      Leslie

      Bill Clinton was a sitting president

      Trump wan't

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      Leslie McCowen 

      10 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Mike, i am so sick of their imagined superiority and real special treatment they get.

      Bill Clinton was a sitting president who was charged with crimes!

      The Starr report, in full, was available for all to see.

      "Getting a Lewinski" became a catch phrase. 20 years later, they still call Clinton a rapist, though there was no trial and conviction.

      Meanwhile, they ignore all the women who accuse Trump, including 3 who say he raped them.

      Im quite sure hes paid for abortions in his day.....but even that wont matter.

      Cause jesus forgives them. Anyone not with them?

      Hellfire and damnation.

      Enough.

      They are ignoring the constitution and the law because they are bullies and dems are too nice.

      Arrest all of them until they come clean.

      Going down the tubes for an immoral thug like Trump is beyond the pale.

      Especially when they spent a decade demonizing a nice guy like Obama.

      Only 1 thing comes to mind when i think of them.....

      Go to hell.

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      Randy Godwin 

      10 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Old "Cut and Paste" will be his nickname henceforth...

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      Dean Traylor 

      10 months ago from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story)

      Actually he had a lot of articles he delated. A vast majority of them were about how unfair his low scores were...and, of course a lot of cut-and-paste hatchet jobs on anyone who disagreed with him...it's tough reading.

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      Randy Godwin 

      10 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Check out his profile, Dean. He joined during Obama, last term and his articles tell you what his goal is here. Anything anti-liberal...

      I've seldom seen such a low profile score from someone who has that many articles. That says a lot about his writing ability as well. Not the first time a paid political shill has posted here.

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      Dean Traylor 

      10 months ago from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story)

      Randy, you may not be off the mark. He often gets the name of the college he supposedly graduate from wrong. At least in the beginning when he started his stellar career of cut-and-pastes.

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      Randy Godwin 

      10 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Wasting your time with a paid shill, Mike.

      And how does one get a 39 profile score? LOL!

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      PP

      These questions are not facts, they are baseless, vague, and ambiguous without any reference. AKA a rant.

      I have gone over in great detail several times about why I say you and the democrats are unAmerican, and this is your comment.

      PP you don't win, because you support people that want to destroy the president, and they don't care if it takes down the country because they don't like the country. They want to change it to socialism, and globalization.

      This is not a difference of opinion, this your lack of facts, It is always the same with the left, you ask them detailed questions, and they go through the list of 13 ways to not answer them.

      I take the time to write very detailed arguments, while you spend no time putting together your response.Go back in all your comments here and tell me what percentage you answered my comments?

      OH I am sorry, I have asked you to do something. Forget it.

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      Mike Russo 

      10 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Did you answer any of my questions? I said Trump does not honor democracy or the republic. That's why I said he acts like a king. Look You have a different view point than I do. So let's stop replaying the same story over and over again. You win O.K. Does that make you feel better? I'm an unpatriotic, unAmerican, terrorist, resistor who hates his country because I don't support Trump...end of story.

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      Brad 

      10 months ago

      PP

      I don't see any facts, just more of your baseless resistance to Trump.

      Resisting the president does what to help the country and the people.

      As I mentioned the democrat resistance and your support of the democrats to Trump is the same goal as the terrorists and the foreign enemies of the country.

      We are also called the UNITED states of America and you and your like minded people don't care what damage is done to the country because of resistance. There was no basis for this resistance other than to remove a validly elected president.

      And the US is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic. Trump became the president of that republic but when half of congress is set on doing nothing but resisting, that can be construed as coup. It is one thing to have a valid reason to impeach a sitting president, but when there is no basis in fact, it becomes unAmerican and approaches a coup.

      Instead of just waiting through the 4 year term, and voicing all the democrat objection at the election in 2020, the democrat objected to everything, and that is not an exaggeration, president Trump does, says he will do, and even thinks of doing.

      True Americans voice their dissent by voting for someone else. You don't answer my comments on what have the democrats done for the country and the people?

      It is sad that you think that your comment is filled with facts?

      The president is equal to the congress, and he has the latitude given to every president. But, the democrats unilaterally decided to employ the executive branch as their servant. That is not the concept of America.

      This is not France and the democrats are not Armand Jean du Plessis de Richelieu, Cardinal-Duc de Richelieu and Trump is not King Louis XIII's. The democrats in congress have taken the role of Cardinal de Richelieu with the title of the King's "Chief Minister." .

      The democrats neither have the wisdom of Richelieu nor is president Trump King Louis XIII. The president needs to run the executive office with people that want to help him run the country, and not have more resistance.

      Trump has made some bad choices in his selection of people, and much of it was due to him feeling that they helped him during the campaign and they would continue it. But, his sense of loyal was not rewarded by many who tried to take advantage of their position.

      The difference between the people working for president Obama and that of president Trump is that Obama's people were more than willing to cross the line into criminal acts. They would also be protected from prosecution of these crimes by Obama's minions in the DOB, FBI, CIA, NSA and the rest of the highly confident against Trump US intel agencies.

      You never answer the questions about the Illegal Aliens and other questions I posed to you.

      I stand by my position on you and the democrats, and you have no facts to refute the truth of the matter asserted by me..

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      Mike Russo 

      10 months ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      B: Then tell me what are the facts?

      M: Here are the facts:

      You and I look at Trump through different lens' You think that it's only the dems who want political advantage, but that is what politics is all about, especially in campaigns. Both sides want to gain political advantage. Everyday Trump wakes up that is what he is thinking about and expresses with his tweet storms, proclamations, and declarations.

      As far as being an American, Trump does not honor the republic nor democracy. He never goes through congress to instigate his trade wars, or negotiations with world powers. He goes it alone. There is no representation by the people. He operates like a king and if he had his way, he would be King, not president.

      His firing of people that don't agree with him is like a king executing his people. He only wants to surround himself with people that agree with him. Group think is one of the most dangerous things a president cans do to destroy a democracy. That's what got us into Iraq. It was the necons who all thought the same way by group think. They did not allow diverse opinions.

      He has done more to divide the American people than any other president that I know He thinks he is the greatest negotiator, but he is really a used car salesman who is very cunning and will try to take advantage of any situation to serve himself to get re-elected.

      You think that calling the MSM fake news, and the enemy of the people is American? Freedom of the press is one of the bedrocks of our democracy. Do you think not holding press conferences is American. Do you think that barring journalist from the press room is American? Do you think that dividing the United States of America for your own self serving needs is American?

      Democracy is based on freedom of speech by the first amendment. I have the right to criticize the president, just like you have the right to blame the dems for everything. That does not make me unAmerican or unpatriotic. It actually does the opposite. I'm worried about this country just like you are, but I'm worried about what Trump will do to destroy democracy. You are worried about how people don't support Trump.

      So you call them unAmerican, unpatriotic, terrorists, resistors. In the meantime, Trump is brainwashing his base so he can get re-elected. It's called political advantage. You need to grow up and see Trump for who he really is not what you think you want him to be.

      In his book the Art of the Deal, he said he plays to people's fantasies to win the deal. That's what Trump is about in nutshell. He doesn't care about the republic or democracy and neither do you by supporting him and insulting those that don't support him. You wanted the facts. These are the facts from my viewpoint.

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