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It's Time for a 3rd Political Party

Updated on July 14, 2018
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Tom is retired but not from life. He enjoys researching and writing about politics, the environment, and other issues facing our country.

The Republicans

One would think that with the Republican Party in control of both Houses of Congress and the Presidency, we would be seeing all kinds of legislation being passed and problems solved. However, failure is assured as we have the second pitiful Speaker of the House in a row. Paul Ryan is probably even weaker than John Boehner when it comes to getting consensus within his own party. It seems that Rep. Mark Meadows of the Freedom Caucus is the defacto Speaker of the House. Nothing seems to happen unless he says so.

This fact, coupled with this extreme right concept of the needing the support of "the majority of the majority" before a bill moves, has suffocated the House. Where did Dennis Hastert come up with this and and where in the Constitution is this maneuver authorized? Clearly, this caucus is so uncompromising, they would turn back the clock - or at least keep things static rather than compromise on anything. Meanwhile the rest of the world is moving forward.

Sadly for our nation, this hard line has excluded the other half of us from being included in the decision-making process. While elections do have consequences, one party rule can't be what the founders envisioned for our great nation. President Trump, Speaker Ryan, and Leader McConnell seem to have forgotten this.

The Democrats

On the Democratic side, we have a lifeless party which actually considered "A Better Deal" as their rallying cry. That was since excluded and morphed into "Fighting Trump" and "Standing Up to Trump" as campaign slogans. Every Democrat running for national office here in New Mexico made sure to include those words in their ads. As mentioned in the previous criticisms of the Democratic Party, there is no vision for the future, just vague nonsense. Opposing Trump is one thing, but what is their "Grand Plan"? The problems facing our nation will effect us all no matter what your politics. Working together to get the best possible answers is of national importance.

Tom Udall

On a personal note, about a year ago, I had written to Tom Udall's website to express my concerns with the direction of the party. While I got no response to my letter, I did receive an invitation to a town hall to be held in Albuquerque. Upon our arrival, we learned that people had already been selected to ask the senator questions. From the start, it became clear that no hard policy issues would be discussed. The senator arrived on stage to a thunderous standing ovation. So what we really had was a campaign rally disguised as a town hall meeting and just a show. It was so disheartening that my wife and I left after about 90 minutes.

Do the Job

We are at a point in our nation that we must start paying attention to what our government is doing no matter how difficult it may be. It is also essential that we begin to hold government accountable at every level for its performance.

Here are some suggested expectations:

1) Actually write a fully fleshed-out bill that solves, or attempts to address an issue - any issue. No "poison pill" amendments.

2) Post the legislation online with an explanation in layman's terms of what the bill does and does not do. Announce the posting everywhere possible.

3) Allow for amendments and debate so everyone has input.

4) Have the legislation drawn up by bi-partisan committees to work out as much as possible in advance.

5) Use the media to keep pressure on congressional leadership to bring bills to a vote and put representatives and senators on record.

Disallow majority of the majority in writing. Each caucus can weigh in with amendments during debate, but no more blocking votes. Each party must have a say on legislation no matter which party is in the majority. We are all entitled to representation in the truest sense.

Senator Jeff Flake

Senator Jeff Flake wrote an outstanding book entitled "Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Principles and a Return to Principle". In it he describes government as it could be and indeed once was. Of course, it has never run perfectly, but it has deteriorated in the last 20 years. Senator Flake writes eloquently of civility, honor, compromise and country first to work together in partnership to arrive at the best overall resolutions to our problems. Bi-partisanship and an actual intellectual battle of ideas would hopefully resurface to replace pettiness and squabbling.

A New Party

If the two major parties are unable to return to actual representative government and continue on the path towards one party rule something must be done. It is only a matter of time before the majorities are reversed and the pendulum swings left. This will bring a whole new set of policy reversals. Here in New Mexico petitions are being signed to form a new party. With any luck something can be organized by the 2020 elections.

We can only imagine what impact a new party could have on the future - perhaps candidates that better represent independents and moderates or maybe candidates who could inspire some of the 45% of eligible voters who aren't participating. Over time the hard left or right will lose their power. Younger voters will want common sense solutions.

By electing even 15% of Congress to a different party, we could send a message to all elected officials that the time for foolishness is past and we want serious ideas and a new vision for the future. We are in dire need of term limits and an end to gerrymandering. This will take a great deal of work by many serious-minded people. This is not just a dream and would change the course of our country.

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    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      22 months ago

      Tom

      "At first I thought there would be an opportunity to have a substantive discussion on something other than poor Donald Trump. "

      B:

      Substantive! My comments are detailed and they were my response to your statements. Did you even try to answer them?

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      "To read your comments it seems as though your views and judgements are set in stone rendering further discussion futile. I'm not sure if these are your true views or if you are simply being provocative. I will end my part here and wish you health and happiness in the future. -Tom"

      B:

      This is an example of how you respond to my comments. I was hoping to have some discussion on the issues you generated. But you talk about being set in stone, you had the opportunity to give me another viewpoint to consider, but you didn't eve try.

      It appears to me that your articles are only there to be read, not discussed, as it was material in a reference book containing nothing but facts. Carry on with that delusion.

    • TomsTwoCents profile imageAUTHOR

      Tom 

      22 months ago from New Mexico

      Brad,

      At first I thought there would be an opportunity to have a substantive discussion on something other than poor Donald Trump. To read your comments it seems as though your views and judgements are set in stone rendering further discussion futile. I'm not sure if these are your true views or if you are simply being provocative. I will end my part here and wish you health and happiness in the future. -Tom

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      Brad 

      22 months ago

      Tom ----- part 2

      President Bush was routinely chided about his intelligence. I hope you were as disgusted by those remarks as you were about the insults directed at President Trump. Again the back and forth shows a lack of mature leadership in Washington.

      B:

      Both GW Bush and Obama were bad for the country and did nothing for the people? President Trump is trying and has some success doing for the country and the people.

      His executive branch was filled with Obama left overs, and they tried to undermine everything he did, and the intelligence agencies lied and set an agenda to unseat the president when they failed to prevent him from taking office. What other president had this kind of corruption left to his administration by the previous administration.

      President Obama made it clear that he would be doing everything to make president Trump look back. One only has to see what former president has done around the world when he disrespected not only president Trump but the US. He is still doing it today.

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      As your nifty history lesson illustrates the ideal that “All men are created equal” has been constantly expanding. By law now, Native Americans, African Americans, women, and LGBTQ folks are all full-fledged citizens with all the rights granted under the Constitution. It would be disastrous if we allowed things to backslide.

      B:

      The Supreme Court has never made a good decision about anything. But they have made some very bad decisions.

      They have never supported any argument against the Income Tax.

      They have misinterpreted the Interstate Commerce Clause which in tandem with the income tax allowed the small central government intended by the founders to become obese, and and dysfunctional. In essence that used the ICC to make everything a federal case.

      The only issue you listed that was decided by the 14th amendment was Gay Marriage.

      All men are not created equal and while it is stated in the Declaration of Independence it is not found in the constitution.

      The L G B T Q and gay marriages makes not sense, and it is a bad decision to rely on the 14th amendment, as it is for government to legislate what they think is equality. At the same time they don't recognize equality. Why is it equality for the rich to be taxed more than anyone else?

      What is the common denominator that binds L G B T Q into a group LGBTQ? There is none, and there is no real thing as gay rights.

      Social Re-engineering via the law is itself a loss of freedom. Laws are not the means to make people like each other, or treat them one way or another. That is not the way that human nature works. People break the laws everyday, as they did when the government made alcohol illegal. But at least they passed a constitutional amendment while the gay marriage did it by the judicial branch.

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      The Supreme Court must never become a religiously slanted branch of our government. We cannot allow religious freedom to go unbridled into the commercial marketplace. Codifying discrimination by bakers (no cake for gay couples) or pharmacists (no birth control for you) based on their personal religious doctrine relegates those consumers to less than fully equal. Once a precedent is set, who knows what group could be targeted.

      B:

      That case was overturned by SCOTUS in favor of the baker. This incident was an abuse intentionally targeting the baker. People should have their freedom as to choose their customers. It was the bakers rights that were abused, not those of the gay people.

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      Lastly, as for the “Koolaid” and “Real American” comments, you are neither qualified nor well enough informed to judge me, Sen. Jeff Flake, or any other American of whom you only have limited knowledge. Keep in mind that politics is one small facet of who we are.

      B:

      Why do you think you are a Real American?

      Why do you think that Jeff Flake is actually doing his job, and supporting America and Americans.

      Nothing that you have said has made you a Real American and you are right I just assumed it was the kool aid talking. But I have judged you, and I gave my reasons for making the call that you are not a Real American. You can attack me for that but that won't change the result.

      Again, What is your point with this article?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      22 months ago

      Tom

      A few thoughts –

      Neither Jeff Flake nor any other Republican is required to do whatever President Trump wants. If that were the case we would have a king with no need for Congress at all. Again, I would suggest that you read Senator Flake’s book and you will see that he is a man of honesty and principle.

      B:

      Jeff Flake got elected as a republican but he is acting like a democrat.

      " Nigel Payne

      Arizona Republican Sen. Jeff Flake took to the Senate floor to accuse President Trump of “giving aid and comfort to an enemy,” in response to his press conference with Vladimir Putin following the Helsinki summit.

      The day before taking to the Senate floor to criticize Trump, Flake joined Democratic Delaware Sen. Chris Coons to introduce a bipartisan resolution supporting U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russia interfered with the 2016 Presidential election, according to the NY Post.".

      This is the same position as the democrats, but both he and the democrats are wrong. What aide and what comfort was given?

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      The ideas that he values are more akin to statesmanship and representative government for all. You seem to be supporting one party rule which is exactly the reason we need a third party.

      B:

      I am supporting president Trump, and he was elected by the people. And when he is trying to give them want to elected him to do, I see Jeff Flake, John McCain and the democrats as going against the will of the people. He lives up to his name imho.

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      It’s quite ironic that you should criticize the Democrats for being obstructive. On the eve of President Obama’s inauguration, Republicans had a large meeting and decided that there would be absolutely no support for anything the new President proposed. They played this strategy for 8 years of the Obama presidency. They voted more than 60 times to repeal or dismantle the ACA during that time. They had 7 years to come up with a better plan, but came up empty.

      B:

      That is why I am not a democrat or a republican. I support president Trump. And it is people like Jeff Flake that prevented the republicans to use their control.

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      Then, Trump gets elected and they have nothing ready. Of course, in keeping with the political climate, the Republicans went into seclusion to write a bill with no Democratic input. Were the Republicans not “Real Americans” because they didn’t work with Obama at all?

      B:

      What Democrat output have you seen since Trump became president. Nothing. Trump is a threat to both parties because he wants to change government to meet the goals the people gave him during his campaigning.

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      To top it off, the Republicans then sequestered themselves away to write a hugely complex replacement healthcare bill with no input from the Democrats. Were the Democrats the “Real Americans” when they supported President Obama? All of this tit for tat has no purpose.

      B:

      That is why the republicans led by Ryan let the president down. I guess he believed Ryan, but it seems that Ryan lied. The democrats haven't been real Americans before JFK. The republicans haven't been real Americans since Ronald Reagan. And Reagan would have done better without GH Bush.

      ------------------------------------

      Now the Republicans can’t reach consensus on anything and a new weak speaker won’t reach across the aisle for support on, or even offer, a compromise bill. Year after year, our country is failing. It looks like the hard right is happy to favor party over country.

      B:

      What is your point? We are talking about president Trump not the parties. Until president Trump the parties, both of them were terrible, and accomplished nothing good for the country or the people.

      Trump is doing what he can without the help of the parties, and he has accomplished a lot in his first 18 months, He could have done much more if the democrats weren't resisting him, and the republicans weren't lying to him.-

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      It is very surprising that you have such hard and fast standards for “Real Americans” and “Real Republicans”. No disagreement or dissent allowed or you get labeled.

      B:

      You went off the road, don't know what you are doing here.

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      Also, you know that the President went way beyond cute nicknames during the campaign. There is no need to list the remarks he made about so many people. His rhetoric was and continues to be divisive and insulting and a sad posture for a sitting President of the U.S. to take. The President has been called names and disrespected and I condemn these remarks – especially the dementia and senility nonsense.

      B:

      It goes beyond insults and disrespect when members of congress suggest assassination, and horrible things to happen to his wife and children. Look at the list of celebrities that added to these threats. One of them saying she would put a price on the head of the president, others that played out the actual killing and even dismembering of the president. These are way beyond insults and mere words. The entire democrat party has agreed to sit out these first two years, and even four years so they will not help the president or the country. And that is what they have done and continue to do.

      The ACA was and is a bad idea there are only 30 million Americans covered by it even today. That was the big Obama democrat victory, really. What else did they do? Did they try to help the victims of the 2008 economic meltdown, no. Did they help the corporations that failed and caused the economic meltdown, yes. The executives of these failed companies even used the bailout money to give them selves key employee seven figure bonuses.

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      Sadly, all presidents are subject are subjected to this abuse. President Obama and his family had many racial slurs and insults hurled at them.

      B:

      No president has been treated this way in recent times. What racial slurs were hurled at Obama and by whom? You mean when people would criticize his performance as president they were immediately turned into slurs. People couldn't criticize his "performance" because the left kept calling it racial, and not because it was racial.

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    • TomsTwoCents profile imageAUTHOR

      Tom 

      22 months ago from New Mexico

      Brad –

      A few thoughts –

      Neither Jeff Flake nor any other Republican is required to do whatever President Trump wants. If that were the case we would have a king with no need for Congress at all. Again, I would suggest that you read Senator Flake’s book and you will see that he is a man of honesty and principle. The ideas that he values are more akin to statesmanship and representative government for all. You seem to be supporting one party rule which is exactly the reason we need a third party.

      It’s quite ironic that you should criticize the Democrats for being obstructive. On the eve of President Obama’s inauguration, Republicans had a large meeting and decided that there would be absolutely no support for anything the new President proposed. They played this strategy for 8 years of the Obama presidency. They voted more than 60 times to repeal or dismantle the ACA during that time. They had 7 years to come up with a better plan, but came up empty. Then, Trump gets elected and they have nothing ready. Of course, in keeping with the political climate, the Republicans went into seclusion to write a bill with no Democratic input. Were the Republicans not “Real Americans” because they didn’t work with Obama at all?

      To top it off, the Republicans then sequestered themselves away to write a hugely complex replacement healthcare bill with no input from the Democrats. Were the Democrats the “Real Americans” when they supported President Obama? All of this tit for tat has no purpose.

      Now the Republicans can’t reach consensus on anything and a new weak speaker won’t reach across the aisle for support on, or even offer, a compromise bill. Year after year, our country is failing. It looks like the hard right is happy to favor party over country.

      It is very surprising that you have such hard and fast standards for “Real Americans” and “Real Republicans”. No disagreement or dissent allowed or you get labeled. Also, you know that the President went way beyond cute nicknames during the campaign. There is no need to list the remarks he made about so many people. His rhetoric was and continues to be divisive and insulting and a sad posture for a sitting President of the U.S. to take. The President has been called names and disrespected and I condemn these remarks – especially the dementia and senility nonsense. Sadly, all presidents are subject are subjected to this abuse. President Obama and his family had many racial slurs and insults hurled at them. President Bush was routinely chided about his intelligence. I hope you were as disgusted by those remarks as you were about the insults directed at President Trump. Again the back and forth shows a lack of mature leadership in Washington.

      As your nifty history lesson illustrates the ideal that “All men are created equal” has been constantly expanding. By law now, Native Americans, African Americans, women, and LGBTQ folks are all full-fledged citizens with all the rights granted under the Constitution. It would be disastrous if we allowed things to backslide. The Supreme Court must never become a religiously slanted branch of our government. We cannot allow religious freedom to go unbridled into the commercial marketplace. Codifying discrimination by bakers (no cake for gay couples) or pharmacists (no birth control for you) based on their personal religious doctrine relegates those consumers to less than fully equal. Once a precedent is set, who knows what group could be targeted.

      Lastly, as for the “Koolaid” and “Real American” comments, you are neither qualified nor well enough informed to judge me, Sen. Jeff Flake, or any other American of whom you only have limited knowledge. Keep in mind that politics is one small facet of who we are.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      23 months ago

      Tom

      Thanks for replying to my comments. I do have some further comments:)

      I sense by most of your recent comments that it will be somewhat difficult for us to see eye to eye on things.

      B:

      We are just exchanging ideas.

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      I was, however, encouraged by your ideas about a different make-up for the Senate. Unfortunately, wouldn't we need a similar scheme in the House?

      B:

      Yes, but that would really make it complicated, but as bills have to pass through the senate before being passed, this would improve what we have today. And the whole point is that more than 90% of the people will have representation. It would also equalize the power of the senators. Today we could sweep the senate with one party. It would be difficult but it could happen, but never under this paradigm.

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      Outside of the tax bill there hasn't been a great deal of accomplished by the House either. Regarding your comment about many Democrats adopting the extreme left position on issues, it seems as though there are many Republicans committed to doing the exact opposite.

      B:

      What republicans and what issues?

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      As for Senator Jeff Flake, my admiration for him goes far beyond his writing skills - which are excellent. Take some time to read his book, it really is worth your time. His positions have to do with his having principles, respect and a willingness to work with the other party for the betterment of the country.

      B:

      He won't even work with his own party, and he disrespects the president. His actions speak, and reading the book won't change those actions. Today, he is working for the democrats, and the only thing they are doing is resist president Trump.

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      It is sad that he is being rejected in favor of hard-line candidates. Also, all Republicans should vote against the President if they don't agree with his policies. Congress is not there to please President Trump. They are there to represent their constituents.

      B:

      When the democrats can't find a single issue to agree on with the president, then they are not doing their job as congress. If they disagree with the president on an issue, then they need to come up with a better plan, but they haven't and that includes Flake.

      When the only plan is to resist the president, how does that help the country and the people?

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      To address some of your earlier remarks, I would remind you that President Trump unleashed the name-calling and insults against other candidates at the beginning of the Republican Primaries and hasn't let up yet. He even went to so far as to threaten dissenters and the press at his rallies.

      B:

      There is a big difference between the president giving his opponents nicknames, and resisting the president and calling for riots, and making threats against him up to and including assassination.

      The press is biased against president Trump, and you know it. That is why he Tweets to get his message unfiltered out to everyone. Like the democrats, nothing that the president does, tries to do, or even thinks about doing has not bee attacked by the media, as it is by the democrats and Rhinos in congress.

      And you also know that it is the democrats that have turned his rallies into near riots. You are going to blame president Trump for dissenters causing problems at his rallies.

      The simple reason that all this happens is because the democrats lost, and Hillary became a two time presidential candidate loser. They can't wait until 2020 they set out to impeach him even if it takes down the country. The republicans have their Flakes and they are working against America and Americans.

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      It is the President, through Scott Pruitt, who is trying to revive the coal industry, whose time has come and gone, and seeks to weaken environmental protection for air and water. This is really a vital issue for our future.

      B:

      The vital issue is having the US be dependent on the energy resources of the rest of the world. Like they put us in our place with the phony oil shortage twice in the 1970s.

      You think it is a vital issue for our future? Why?

      The Paris Accord won't change polluting the environment, it will just allow the third world countries to take create it, while the US pays for them to do it. Then they will sell us their products because we wouldn't be able to manufacture our own because we would be restrained from generating carbon.

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      It is not the Democrats who have started the discrimination game. The idea of "All men are created equal" and have inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should be universally applied

      B:

      First of all we all know that ALL Men are not created equal. The US constitution said that Black Men were only 3/5 of a man. The Men in all men wasn't the same as mankind, it was men. The US Constitution didn't allow women to vote. So much for equal protection.

      And the 14th amendment didn't give Black men the right to vote, and it didn't give women the right to vote. If the 14th's equal protection clause was really equal, then we wouldn't have needed the 15th amendment to get black men their voting rights. And we would have needed the 19th amendment to get women the right to vote.

      Inalienable rights were never listed, so we can only guess what they might be. We wouldn't have needed the 13th amendment if that were true. Where was the life liberty and pursuit of happiness for slaves. And the democrats went to war to protect their right to have slaves. And then in 1964, they caused riots because they didn't treat the emancipated slaves equally.

      So what we have here are words spoken against England for the reason that we rebelled, but it wasn't put into our constitution as I mentioned above.

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      - except for those who fall short in the judgement of another's faith. No cake for you.

      B:

      What is your point? It is too cryptic for me to respond.

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      I know that America is the greatest country ever conceived. I love my country as I'm sure you do. Your staunch support of President Trump is admirable. Unfortunately, I see him as a poor leader, egotistical and quite unscrupulous in many ways. I also know that life here could get better and better but not until politicians like Trump, Ryan, Pelosi and Schumer have been swept from power.

      B:

      President Trump has actually been working off his campaign promises, and both parties don't like that. The reason is that both parties don't think that the people should run the country.

      Why do you say these things about the president? What has he personally done to you? And what president has done more in their first 500 days than president Trump?

      We have seen how corrupt the Obama government was by what and how they did it. Obama was a soothing speaker, but words are not actions, And keep that in mind about your criticism of Trump's words.

      The top management at the US Intelligence agencies, the State Dept and others have been uncovered as being biased, and corrupt. And you continue to say Trump is a poor leader while not acknowledging how bad were the other presidents.

      He inherited the issues you complain about, he didn't create them.

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      For me, since we don't really know much about each other, there are a couple of phrases to be avoided. I am angry with both parties and see and bad policies floated by each. I haven't "drank anyone's Koolaid" and try to judge things on my own.

      B:

      These were conclusions based on your statements.

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      Lastly, you do us all a big disservice by making a judgement call on who and who isn't a "Real American".

      B:

      We are exchanging ideas. Does resisting the president, trying to impeach him on each and everything he does or says is being a Real American. A Real American would wait until 2020 and vote him out

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      That is a quick way to eliminate any chance at collegiality. And truthfully, the last person who should set those parameters is Donald Trump.

      B:

      Again your statements are emotional and without reference or foundation. You say truthfully, were you lying till now:)

    • TomsTwoCents profile imageAUTHOR

      Tom 

      23 months ago from New Mexico

      Brad,

      I sense by most of your recent comments that it will be somewhat difficult for us to see eye to eye on things. I was, however, encouraged by your ideas about a different make-up for the Senate. Unfortunately, wouldn't we need a similar scheme in the House? Outside of the tax bill there hasn't been a great deal of accomplished by the House either. Regarding your comment about many Democrats adopting the extreme left position on issues, it seems as though there are many Republicans committed to doing the exact opposite.

      As for Senator Jeff Flake, my admiration for him goes far beyond his writing skills - which are excellent. Take some time to read his book, it really is worth your time. His positions have to do with his having principles, respect and a willingness to work with the other party for the betterment of the country. It is sad that he is being rejected in favor of hard-line candidates. Also, all Republicans should vote against the President if they don't agree with his policies. Congress is not there to please President Trump. They are there to represent their constituents.

      To address some of your earlier remarks, I would remind you that President Trump unleashed the name-calling and insults against other candidates at the beginning of the Republican Primaries and hasn't let up yet. He even went to so far as to threaten dissenters and the press at his rallies. It is the President, through Scott Pruitt, who is trying to revive the coal industry, whose time has come and gone, and seeks to weaken environmental protection for air and water. This is really a vital issue for our future.

      It is not the Democrats who have started the discrimination game. The idea of "All men are created equal" and have inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should be universally applied - except for those who fall short in the judgement of another's faith. No cake for you.

      I know that America is the greatest country ever conceived. I love my country as I'm sure you do. Your staunch support of President Trump is admirable. Unfortunately, I see him as a poor leader, egotistical and quite unscrupulous in many ways. I also know that life here could get better and better but not until politicians like Trump, Ryan, Pelosi and Schumer have been swept from power.

      For me, since we don't really know much about each other, there are a couple of phrases to be avoided. I am angry with both parties and see and bad policies floated by each. I haven't "drank anyone's Koolaid" and try to judge things on my own. Lastly, you do us all a big disservice by making a judgement call on who and who isn't a "Real American". That is a quick way to eliminate any chance at collegiality. And truthfully, the last person who should set those parameters is Donald Trump.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      23 months ago

      Tom

      I have a few comments.

      "Senator Jeff Flake

      Senator Jeff Flake wrote an outstanding book entitled "Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Principles and a Return to Principle". In it he describes government as it could be and indeed once was. Of course, it has never run perfectly, but it has deteriorated in the last 20 years. Senator Flake writes eloquently of civility, honor, compromise and country first to work together in partnership to arrive at the best overall resolutions to our problems. Bi-partisanship and an actual intellectual battle of ideas would hopefully resurface to replace pettiness and squabbling."

      B:

      Why didn't you mention that he is one of the republicans that are the problem by not supporting Trump? You praise him here, but for what his writing skills?

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      B:

      As far as your thoughts on a new party. This hasn't happened since the democrats and republicans formed their party. Both party's are at the opposite extremes making gridlock rather than compromise or even moving to the center impossible.

      IMHO, the problem is the loyal party voters, they are the impediment to getting their parties to move to the center. The democrats today are the farthest left i can find in recent times.

      And I agree the pendulum swing is inevitable. It is much like politics on a see saw, One party is up the other party is down, and it repeats. What a see saw can't do is move forward. Although somehow, it has moved backwards?

      My solution as least for the Senate is a new paradigm. First thing is to add 50 more senators. The current scheme is any state can have two D or two R or 1 D and 1D. The possibility of Independents is far and few between.

      My plan is that every state has 1D, 1R, and 1Ind. That would be fixed unlike the current scheme where D or R can all the two senators.

      The D and R would cancel each other out as long as gridlock mentality between these two partys continue. But in the new scheme either the D or R would have to encourage the I to join them. There is still the possibility of no majority in the state.

      But under the current system the R or D voter could have no support from the senate for their state when it is RR or DD. At worse case all the D, R and an I would always be represented in each election.

      Because the two existing parties have diametrical goals for the country and their states in the case of RR or DD the voters of the losing party are not represented for 6 years at least.

      The new scheme has R, D and an I represented period.

      This would give the voters and incentive to vote I and then control their wishes by having the I support an R or a D on an issue by issue basis.

      Just a thought.

      Thanks

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