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GRAFTON JOBCORPS; A tale of horror.

Updated on February 24, 2016

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GRAFTON JOBCORPS "CAREER ACADEMY": JUST SAY NO!

For those of you who do not know, Jobcorps is a federally funded "educational" training program for 16 through 24-year-olds. They provide "room&board", a bi-monthly stipend, as well as a vocational training program and education classes. I use all of these terms loosely, as they do. Read on for why.

I would ONLY recommend jobcorps to someone who has NO OTHER CHOICE. Jobcorps is a scam. The recruiters tell you out and out LIES to get you in. I was a good trainee the entire 6 months I was there, but it seemed like no matter what you did, you never made a 5 (top daily marks). I tested out of education classes and went straight to trade when I got in, and I always received good marks in trade... but since I left on time to go in the morning, and my slacker roommates did not, I never got a good room score even though it wasn't my mess. It caused me to lose my weekends and some pay, as well as store run privileges and recreational trips.

In college I am a straight A student, on the Dean's list for the second year in a row. You do not get to be there if you are a screw up.

The stipend is the hugest false advertisement ever, a bald face lure, a $25 bi-weekly check (that I fully believe they only offer so they can say that they pay students to attend, considering how many ridiculous ways they have to whittle it down to $0 before you get it in hand). The recruiters and staff will never tell you how much it is before you enter, they play it off that it differs, so they can't say, etc...not true. It varies between $25-$50. No higher. You can offer to play janitor cleaning an entire building every night and bring your total up an additional $40 a check. They can just decide you didn't do good enough and not pay you if they choose, too. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

Everything you do wrong is blown out of proportion, even when you couldn't avoid it. Out in the world I am NEVER a troublemaker, I never got arrested, never got disciplined at work, was never late for anything. I have been the voice of reason to MOST people I know, in JC and outside, keeping THEM from doing stupid stuff, too. But it seemed like there was no way to just be a human being at jobcorps. NO individuality was accepted. If you dared to question a rule that made no sense, whether you followed it or not, you were "disciplined". Discipline includes either being restricted to jobcorps, or having your measly bit of pay fined. It is true, you get paid $25 EVERY TWO WEEKS, when you are at your "job"(classes) 8 hours a day, Monday through Friday. That's .06 cents an hour. SLAVE WAGES. Minimum wage when I was there was $7 an hour. That would have been $280 per check, before taxes, which you wouldn't have to pay, as you make far below the "poor" standard. It would still have been great. Now, understand that this is not an ALLOWANCE, it is a PAYCHECK. They go out of their way to specify that. You have to cash them there. Now, also consider that they will not give you your full amount if there is a fine. They keep the amount you were fined, with or without permission. You cannot choose not to pay and accept the consequences, (I.E. getting thrown out, working it off, etc) like you would be able to in any other job. They go out of their way to point out that this is a WORKING FACILITY, and trade is WORK, not SCHOOL, and should be treated as such. They say the rules, etc, are to prepare you for the real working world, for example the dress code( there are trade- specific uniforms in some cases) and designated smoking areas.

Yet they withhold your pay to pay your fines. Imagine: if that were LEGAL, there would be no cars towed for parking tickets, and that stupid parking wars show wouldn't exist.

No matter what job you have, it is ILLEGAL for employers to withhold pay if you were present for your shift, whether you did any work or not. Even the GOVERNMENT ITSELF cannot just help itself to your money because you got a ticket or fine.

I would also like to point out that they care not one iota about medical issues or doctor's orders, ALSO ILLEGAL for an "employer". I had to go to the med center and hospital ER for a serious injury to my calf muscle. The doctor said to stay off it and keep it elevated due to severe bruising and internal bleeding which caused it to swell. The good medical staff at Jobcorps would not allow me to follow doctors orders, and forced me to go to trade anyway, or risk termination for skipping trade. This caused further injury to my leg, as there is nowhere to keep your leg elevated in class, and in Culinary you have to walk constantly. My muscle, instead of just being bruised, was now TORN instead. I was in pain and on crutches for a month. I realize now I should have sued, but at the time if I had gotten thrown out, I would have been homeless, as you cannot save money when you make $25 every 2 weeks.

Jobcorps is WORSE than a prison. Even a prison respects medically documented injuries and doctors orders.

Here are some of the worse offenses of JC:

-People stole things all the time. All you had was a small closet you could lock, which staff "inspected" DAILY. Not to mention if you grabbed the handle and shook the door, it unlocked. REAL SAFE.

-If someone was beating on someone else, and they defended themselves, BOTH people were ejected from the place, no investigation was inducted, and no eyewitness testimony was accepted.

-The ENTIRE place would go on "lockdown" every time there was an incedent between a couple people, usually two individuals fighting. Even when they knew who did it and were right there. No matter what time it was. If it was 3pm, you were locked in the dorms for the entire night, and couldn't leave until 5am. THAT'S 14 HOURS. That's imprisonment.

- People were terminated for NO CAUSE, ALL THE TIME. I myself was terminated for "throwing eggs all over campus", NOT something I would ever consider doing, when 8 individuals were present to vouch for my whereabouts the time in question. AS WERE CAMERAS at the rec hall... it didn't matter though, because the day before I had completed my trade, and they didn't need me anymore. Once you complete trade, they have to pay for services for YOU, like assistance with job placement, assistance finding housing, and $1200 towards apartment furnishings/rent....but not if they terminated you first. I saw this happen SO MANY TIMES, it cannot be considered even remotely coincidental.

-The curfew for 21 year old adults who were responsible was the same as for 16 year old delinquents. 8 pm. If you were not in by then, you were locked out, and had to knock for entry, even if it was by 1 minute, and were written up, fined, and put on restriction (restriction is where you are confined to campus, and cannot go home for the weekend to see family).

-There were recreational outings every week, and only lv 5 students could go. If you had a slob of a roommate, you couldn't. Whether it was your fault or not. Same was true for "store runs", whether you needed shampoo and soap or not. ONLY 10-20 PEOPLE COULD GO, depending on how many vans they took. OUT OF 300 PEOPLE. If you weren't on time for the sign up, or didn't know anyone going, you couldn't even get your necessities, unless you could pay one of the people going to get your things, an EXORBITANT price, without the staff catching you.

-The food was terrible, and if I hadn't of been in culinary, I would never have eaten. The chicken was RAW, still bloody inside, every other day. I survived on sandwiches, which I cooked in the microwave because they left the meat out for an hour and a half at a time.

A Jobcorps education...HA. "Hey it's free education! Don't be so damn negative!!!" That's one of the points defenders use... free or not, IS NOT RESPECTABLE. It isn't even an actual education. I wasn't taught a thing I didn't already know: the instructor never actually stood up and showed us how to do things. He just kinda sat in his office and oversaw us doing our own thing. If you don't know how to cook, don't expect to learn how here. Again, A Jobcorps Education....HA...employers frown upon it on a resume, so it is therefore useless. Nobody, in my experience or any experiences I heard of, wants anyone trained there. Well, I have heard of people hiring JC trainees, but not anywhere respectable. Because of the MANY degenerates that attend, it is viewed as a place for criminals and poor employees. Jobcorps employees themselves I have seen quoted in newspapers saying "Jobcorps is a training program for "at risk" youth." The stigmata is insurmountable. Even with a letter of recommendation from my instructor. I tried for MONTHS to get a job at a restaurant, even as a bus person, and the second employers found out I was trained there, the employers faces dropped. I never got a job at a restaurant, even though I was serve-safe certified and attended bar-tending school after, out of pocket. I was forced to get a job at a gas station to feed myself, and a second job at Walmart to pay for other needs. I am in college now, and have a sales job with a respectable company through my own merit,(AND by not mentioning JC in my resume) and am getting a REAL education, so I can get a better job in the future...a JC education is, by-and-large, a waste of time.

I fully expect that Jobcorps should be subject to regular inspections and reviews. MANY of their practices are unconstitutional and illegal. I fully believe that the IDEA of Jobcorps is a good one....but when you allow people power with no real supervision, things never go as planned.

I will tell you why I am no longer there, and perhaps shed some light on the type of insanity that happens there on a daily basis. The very DAY that I completed the Culinary Arts program, I am pulled from class and brought to the administrator's office. I was told I was being terminated for breaking into the culinary building and taking eggs, and throwing them all over campus.A completely unfounded accusation. I had 5 people who could account for my whereabouts at the time of the incident, but they didn't care. They accused me of it, found me guilty with no witnesses or evidence, nor any precedents of misbehavior on this scale to base their idea of it being me on, They threw me out on the street.

I found out years later it was my friend Kevin who had done it. He had no idea I had gotten thrown out for it, because they never even bothered asking my friends if I was with them at the time, so nobody knew what had happened to me. I could have sworn this place was in the United States, where we are innocent until proven guilty, but guess that only counts in a courthouse (if that).

So, that is my story, and these are my experiences and opinions. This is my advice: DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE YOU CARE ABOUT TO ATTEND THIS HELLHOLE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. THEY WILL COME OUT A WORSE PERSON FOR IT, IF THEY DON'T END UP IN JAIL.

Take it or leave it, but go away informed.



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Ex-Trainee and Staff Experiences

"My experience with JobCorps was at first kind of fun. But then a few weeks in I realized I had made a mistake. My mistake you ask? Signing up to train at a prison disguised as a government funded trade school.

Drugs ran rampant through the dormitories, one boy was even beaten almost to death in the laundry room over 5 dollars worth of marijauna. Gang members were as abundant as if we were on the street. Racism dominated any social gathering or event Job Corps tried to plan. The point system to go outside the compound on the weekends was a joke. Anything you owned would and could be stolen if it wasn't bolted down." -Shane B.

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      Anonymous Teacher 11 months ago

      As a former GED teacher at GJC- I can stand behind most of what you have said, Lady Luv. And to be honest, employees weren't treated any better. (I was reprimanded when a fight broke out in my classroom). We were required to meet a specific number of GEDs each month :( despite TABE scores and attendance and behavioral issues.

      I also wouldn't recommend this as an education/training for anyone unless if was their only chance.

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      Lady Luv 2 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Well worm, you know you were different. you've got charisma and everyone loved you, you weren't screwed by the place like most lol even though you screwed around a lot.

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      worm 2 years ago

      So, I wanted to join the fun and write something on my account of being at JC. I had a riot here. Made some friends, cant say any enemies, and had ALOT of good times. However, pretty much everything that was initially said is spot on.

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      Lady Luv 2 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Wow, Deborah! Sounds like Cincinnati job corps is even worse than Grafton job corps! That's horrific! Thank you for sharing your experience, hope you're okay after going through that place.

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      Deborah 2 years ago

      Job Corp is all about money. They are suppose to have a zero tolerance policy but they don't enforce it. I attended Cincinnati Job Corp in the early 90's and it was chaos from the start. When I first arrived I notice all the guys standing in the hallway trying to get a look at the fresh meat coming in to the center. It was really disturbing. I learned that many of the students there were VERY troubled some were gang members trying to recruit for their gangs others were constant troublemakers who were given a choice of jail or Job Corp and picked Job Corp obviously. I heard of rapes, blanket parties (you get a blanket thrown over your head in the middle of the night and get jumped by a group of students that didn't like you) underage drinking, drugs. Everything you could imagine went on there...and it wasn't just the students either. The staff was worst, instead of helping make students better they were helping with the corruption. They brought in drugs and alcohol and was using that to get sex from students. It was a MARRIED man's playground...Oh and the women staff members indulged on young males constantly. I knew someone who was pregnant by a R.A. and I heard of one who was pregnant by a security guard. I can say this if you stay away from the troublemakers you can get your trade and G.E.D. and once you do get out of there as quick as you can. My friends told me to write a book to warn parents about the craziness..maybe I will.

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      William J.C. 2 years ago

      I was just reminiscing and complaining to my wife about the "good old" days at Grafton Job Corps. I explained to her how impossible it was to sign up for "store runs". Your account of how tough it was is spot on.

      To get around that, I actually attended the Alcoholics Anonymous meetings that they offered off campus. Why? Not because I had a problem (I think I had tried alcohol only once at that time of my life), it was so I could shop at the little convenience store across the street after the meeting was over.

      The things we do for toiletries and laundry detergent, eh?

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      :( 2 years ago

      Not a place for any person who wants to further their education. Malnourishment, hazing, and no sense of safety would be a brief description of life at a JC. If you have no other options than to attend, it is my suggestion that you MAKE one.

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      Lady Luv 2 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Thank you so much for your story, and I think you write very well for ESL. Many people who's first language is English can't write half as coherently.

      Keep working hard.

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      Hey 2 years ago

      I go to Shriver JC for security, got my HSD there and planning to go Grafton JC to get to military preparation. But, change my mind sound same as shriver and why. Before I got into JC it sounded like a very professional environment and A place where people are polite, appropriate verbal, mature and respectful (well how the OA, video and image make it seem) but I was wrong. Not only were those students immature also the staffs were. I hear that word "N**ga" so many times, it's the most common word use in Shriver Job Corp. Sometime, staff swear as well and there minor there, not good. Even been say in Class or during Trade and staff act like it was never been said. It's really unprofessional. I wonder where Job Corp hired their staff from because they better be inexpensive as they look. Maybe less than minimum wage if not than its waste of tax money. Btw, during CPP since I got thyroid problem, sometime I get loss of hearing making me not being a good listener. Well I didn't listen to instruction because my condition; and then teacher give me attitude and yell at me telling me to listen. I'm 22 being yell like a child and force to listen like a slave (intense ;) ). Also, they don't care about your health, they probably think I use it as an excuse to ignore them or something very mature (Oh u ignore me I want ur attention now u get a 2 n negative) oh wow a negative ooooh no! Really? What doesn't kill me make me care less.

      The high school class, I couldn't concentrate to make things worse I got thyroid problem which make the concentration worst; it's hard for me to focus and study. But, student in class keep fooling around, talking a lot, and staff don't really do nothing about it, only thing he/she says "Oh, score going down" like hundred time without kicking the person out. Like really? just kick the person out of the class, his disruptive the class and the funny thing next day they still get score of 3-4 same as me (interesting, it was all a bluff) -.- . I try to tell everyone to low the volume but then I got target by everyone, people saying “Yo taking Job Corp cheerious n**ga" and "U annoying damn" with attitude and bad grammar (Very professional). Like of course, I want to get graduated soon as possible not stay there until contract expire, I have a life. Don't want live out of 50 buck a month for 2 years lol pathetic. When I ask for help the staffs she make that students help me instead. Okay, I want a teacher who qualifies to help with school work to help with school work, not a student who scores less than me in TABE.

      Next, I'm multilingual but that way and English my third language. Since I have an accent and my pronunciation it's pretty bad they treat me like I'm mentally challenge. I did so good at an essay, only need 750 but i did 2,000 words, I did research it on site and book I never copy i put it in my own word, added other vocab words, word transition and added things in my own and make it really long and added reference (was legit).. Then she assume I cheated on it -.-. i got 700 both reading and math. English it's my third language and score 99.9% (100% if not counting myself) higher than every zombie on job corp, I'm the only one who isn't infected by the stupid virus. Anyway, 90 on my ascab. The point is I'm too smart to be mentally challenged, not trying to be conceited, just trying prove a point. Hopefully, everyone have English as their secondary because if it's their first or only language, than they are the mentally ill one for scoring less than me in reading.

      I'm not a bad student, sometime i am a smartass (hard not to be one when u surrounded by zombie), I can be a demanding and a kind of a jerk because I hate loud noise when I'm trying to focus. it is a school for common sense sake. I'm the only one who don't say " N**ga", and I use PG rated verbal to respect minor and their parent who enrolled them here. I still get score of 3 and 4 idk why (maybe cuz i demanding staff all that time, should give me 5 for leadership skills :) ). But, idc. Never got positive for helping, Oh no! no positive :( lol. Anyway idk just letting you know how mistreating they are and ungrateful.

      To sum it all up, Job Corp it's a joke, if you love comedy instead of paying to see comedy just go to Job Corp it's a free comedy show. It's free comedy, not free education. Laugh at the staff and only laugh at the staff they are to blame for student being that way. Ha Ha! I didn't notice how joke it was, I notice after i start reading review of it and my own experience, I realize Job Corp it's just for a laugh. Btw, joke it's on me since they kill my time. Now all I need it's a time machine.

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      CB Owski 2 years ago

      I also would like to add that a lot of people(especially young individuals) fall into the idea that they need Job Corps in order to move forward in their lives. After being put down by that Job Corps recruiter, and finding more suitable avenues such as opportunities at a local community college and getting my permit and my GED , I am now moving forward towards starting classes at the local community college and getting my degree in Applied Science and getting my license and a car. After all was said and done, I realized that everything that they claimed they could do for me, I did on my own and on my own accord. It's motivation that is needed within the individual, and no program in the JC can motivate someone who is unmotivated about life. That's why there are so many AWOL's in the program. For them, its just a ticket for free food and shelter. Nothing more. There are also those who are only doing it to avoid a prison sentence.

      Many young individuals who are legitimately looking to change their lives have a lot more options than they think they do but may feel pressured into believing that this is their only chance for success or may not be fully aware of the avenues that they have available. Free food, free shelter, and free "education" sounds great in theory but once again, it's the actuality of the situation that is often shadowed. That is the sad part.

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      Lady Luv 2 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Thank you for your input, CB. I agree with all your points, and your assumptions about how you would be treated were completely spot-on.

      If you didn't already feel like you'd dodged a bullet by deciding not to go, let me tell you now that you should. Jobcorps needs a severe overhaul to be anything remotely like what it was intended to be at its inception.

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      CB Owski 2 years ago

      I am glad you made the post to show the true light of how Job Corps really is. The recruiters will lie through their teeth and I know because I had a dealing with a JC recruiter after deciding I would go to Job Corps. After several months of emailing this woman back and forth, I thought I would be squared away. She ended up sending my information up to Earle C. Clements. When I began questioning her and why she sent my paper work all the way up to Kentucky and began questioning her story all together, she flipped and questioned if I would even be right for the program because I didn't follow "her directions". After all was said and done, I decided I would not waste my time with such people who treat potential recruiters so poorly. She couldn't even answer my questions properly without talking down to me like a child. If a recruiter is treating you like that, you know the people running the program are going to be the exact same way.

      The problem with Job Corps isn't the concept. The concept itself has it's purpose. However, it is clear that the concept left the room a couple of decades ago. What it used to be and what it is now bears no resemblance whatsoever. That is why many people feel that it is a complete waste of time and tax payers money. Recently a report was done on Job Corps after it's 50 year anniversary and many centers are not only lying about the diploma rates, they are lying about job placement rates. Even if the job placement rates were true, how many of those graduates are actually getting jobs in their perspective fields ? Very few. Most end up working at fast food joints, retail positions or have no job at all once they're out. Which would be fine, but that alone can be accomplished without going to Job Corps. It has also been stated that many employers will not hire Job Corps graduates due to reputation of Job Corps and some of the students eventually have to go to college.

      There's also multiple accounts of physical and verbal assaults, rape allegations, corruption, thievery, and uncooperative management at many of these centers especially large ones such as McKinney Job Corps and Earle C. Clements. I ask anyone who is currently considering Job Corps, what's your situation ? Are you homeless ? Are you living with parents who are abusive and neglectful ? Are you in a situation where you are going from home to home to home ? If you meet these qualifications, then yes, consider Job Corps. However, if you do NOT meet any of these qualifications, go to college. You can get a degree or certification at most technical colleges and they are considered valid. Solve all your problems with mom and or dad, and either go to college or get a trade through a trade school(not JC).

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      Frank 3 years ago

      The complaint about student pay is unwarranted. The education, room and board are what you get. Get a job of you don't feel you get paid enough to drain taxpayer's money at Job Corps. Most "students" are scumbags who need babysitting. They come to JC because they failed in normal schools. Parents get tired of lazy kids hanging around the house all day, not going to school, not working. You can dump them at JC and its free daycare 24/7. If you're old enough to buy beer but never finished school or worked then you have some issue already. Job Corps is all about keeping the numbers up. Take any clown and hold on to them no matter how poorly they perform or how awful they behave. Head count translates to money. It is basically a detention center for people with no skills and behavioral problems. I had worked at JC for many years. The main problem is the students. The program could work if they weren't scraping the bottom of society for recruits and then holding them tight with both hands.

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Anastasia, I don't know where you're located, so I couldn't tell you what programs are in your area, or how old you are, so I can't say if you can go back to high school, but there are a lot of online high school degree programs. If you do go that route, be sure to Google whatever site you decide on, to make sure they are accredited and legitimate

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      Anastasia Nichols 3 years ago from United States

      Thank you very much for posting all of this useful information, and i actually just received a letter in my mail from Lauren Stewart, I gotta admit how thankful am for Internet sometimes, i was about to consider meeting with her this Wednesday until my brother had showed me this!!!! WOW! I was adopted from Ukraine, Kiev at the age of 13 by an American family, as well i had my blood mother living in Ukraine, after certain time, my mother had passed away at the age of 36 years, and my adoptive parents had an issue me always loving her and caring so much, i really wanted to attend the funeral, but as i had learned majority of people in the United States are fake, i had a surgery for my ACL, that day of my surgery my mother had passed away, they decided to tell me on Valentines day in 2012. WOW. i was very shocked! I had worked very hard at the age 17 just to go see my beloved "dead" mother, i had asked my adoptive parents to pay the ticket round trip, to Ukraine, Kiev last summer, i had left for 3 months, those 3 months i had never received a call or an email, i was hoping they cared, or something, turns out a week before i have to come back to United STates and go back to high school and finish my education, they cancel my ticket and leave me, with no education, no money, no place to live, thank God, he never leaves us humans, i had a very good friend that i made a lot of money before i had left to Ukraine, he had purchased my ticket back, ever sense i got back my parents have not considered helping me, Education wise, they had taken me out of High school, and all the sports, i had lost all my credits, its awful, but i believe that God will give me 3 times as much as i had lost!!! Now i was supposed to actually finish my high school diploma with " JobCorps" but sense i had seen and basically felt all the horrible things all of you been through i would not go there my self, i lived in the orphanage for many years and it sounds alot like it, but with out any pay... If any of you here could suggest please where could i complete not my GED but my high school diploma that is accredited, i would really appreciate that. One more time thank you very much for the article, and all the comments.

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      I'm sorry you had a troubled time, Crismson. That's why this article exists, to try and save as many people from going through that as possible.

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      crismson 3 years ago

      I went to buffalo ny job corp I made it through the 1st month got kicked out because of fights. I was being bullied there and the workers there did not care about me and believe other ppl story. I Hate that place so bad.

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      Brodey Campbell 3 years ago

      I'm willing to give information to people who are considering this program. I know a lot of information about various centers.

      You can message me via email: decarne1@pointpark.edu

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Thank you, JJ, for the complement, as well as your excellent articulation. Your comment was a pleasure to read!

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      JJ 3 years ago

      Wow! I'm sorry to hear about your "horror story" with Job Corps; I myself attended an orientation just a few weeks ago. I'm currently looking to learn a skilled trade. So naturally, I had a few general questions for my counselor that she couldn't even explain properly. She then stated it would take a 24-48 hours to receive an answer to my questions. It's been over 3 weeks...I've called and left several messages with her and others at that office. I have even called the national 1-800 # and they escalated the issue and still NO ANSWER!? I don't understand why it's so difficult to find answers to some very simple questions? At last, I've given up on finding out the answers, if Job Corps is this disorganized from the get-go I could only image how it bad really is!? And yes, after orientation Job Corps did sound eerily similar to a juvenile detention center. Thanks Lady Luv for the informative review. :)

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      GOOD! Another young mind saved! Thanks, Nannyof4!

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      nannyof4 3 years ago

      I was going to send my granddaughter to the Job Corps and after I got done reading this stuff there's no way in hell

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Jordan Cooper, Good. I am so glad to hear you are pursuing a higher education and a solid foundation for your future. I wish you the best of luck, and am glad to have helped!

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Keyairrah, I am unfamiliar with the educational program of the Potomac location. I had already had my GED and had already attended some college when I went to Grafton, yet they still made me test. I completed the tests and "tested out" of having to participate in education classes. Some of my friends had to attend, even though they said they had diplomas and geds. They might have been unable to submit evidence, and failed testing, and that's why...but this is speculation. I have no idea, you should call them and ask.

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      Jordan Cooper 3 years ago

      Right now I'm in a welding program at my local community college, and am looking for my next step. My dad mentioned job corps and how he remembered it being a good program for an old friend. I wasn't really too keen on the idea but still did some research and looked up some reviews on various locations. So far no review has had anything great to say about job corps, and your story just put the icing on the cake. I think going here would be a GIANT mistake, and I'd hate to start my entrance into the real world miserable and cheated. Thank you for sharing this information, you really did me a solid and I think ill look for other avenues to a better education and opportunities.

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      Keyairrah 3 years ago

      So I will be attending the Potomac job corps center in about 8 days. I have my high school diploma already, do I still have to do educational training?

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Go to college, Aaron!!

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      aaron 3 years ago

      omg that's awful and to think I was about to go

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Even if that is all this article EVER does, saves just ONE person and sends them to college, I am glad to take the abuse for writing it. Congratulations on furthering your education, Nazzyk! Keep me posted!!!

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      nazzyk 3 years ago

      ...I think you just saved me.....I was soooooo close to joining Grafton specifically...but now...I'm going to community college....thank you.

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      Annie Lettner 3 years ago

      See.... I agree with a lot of what you said. I currently go to Joliet Job Corps. I mean... It isn't good, but you are right. You get kicked out for the stupidest reasons. Just yesterday, we were put on lockdown for about half and hour. Turns out four people got into a fight. They're all gone, no investigation. I'm kinda curious to hear what your TEAP program is like. But yeah, our culinary program got shut down... I have no idea why, but I'll admit it. The food sucks. Our rec trips are a little different though. We can only have up to forty people going and they start with fives... Then fours.... Rarely a 3.5 can ever go. But yeah, that's my story. #jailcorps pretty much

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Wow. Nice to hear! Which JobCorps were you attending?

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      3 years ago

      I just finished the job corp program. I was in the college program, off campus. It was the best thing I ever did. They gave me the opportunity to go to college and graduate totally for free! No student loans, no book cost, gas cards, and bi-weekly pay checks. I also got my teeth cleaned on a regular basis there and they actually fixed one if my broken teeth for FREE. I got free eye glasses too. Seriously, I would recommend it to anyone. I am now graduated and transferred to a 4 year college for my bachelors degree. There is no other program out there that will pay you to go to school. Maybe it's not for everyone but for me it was a great opportunity.

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      maria 3 years ago

      thank you everyone I was thinking of sending my daughter to job corp in MA, My God you saved her from prison like people, college is the only way to succeed with professional people!

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Thank you, Chris, for your heartfelt enthusiasm.

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      chris 3 years ago

      Hi, My name is Chris, I have read this entire page comments and all, and all i have to say is job corps might really suck but in life you do what you gotta do to get by and survive.. my life has been so damn insane i cant even write it down.. and i dont want to be in a pissing contest but if you read up on the location you wish you to attend you will see they discribe vividly just how strict it is. I have no other option but to attend grafton although Loring was my top choice the male female ratio was 3b to 1g so i couldnt go there. Yes it is retarted as all hell and its a self paced basically search and learn program, but if you try ard enough and keep to yourself youll come out on top.. or as close as you can to the top anyways.

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      carolina 3 years ago

      Lady Luv. Your story prompted me to look a little deeper into the Job Corps program. I had read good and bad stories from different centers. The problem is, I have read more bad expierence stories than good. This should tell people something. When your child decides to go into this program, you would think that the information provided, by the orientations they attend, is up to date informaiton. We are finding out this is not the case. One also expects for the students to be safe and their "locked up" belongs to be safe. Again, we are finding out this is not the case. This program's funding is based on how many student they can get to enroll. Wheather the information provided is true and accurate or not. It's "let's see what we can tell them that they will believe, and get them signed up." So food for thought for anyone thinking about joining this program and reads these posts-This "Free Education" comes at a cost. YOUR SANITY. It is hard for an individual to be in class and concentrate on their trade, when they know there is a high probability someone is stealing their stuff or someone else's stuff, and then knowing the center is doing NOTHING to stop it. Sometimes I wonder, if it is the staff thst is doing the stealing and that is why nothing gets done. So again, this "Free Education" comes at a cost. The question is, does one want tp PAY that cost? I will be calling upon my state representative, and state senators to inform them of what I know is happening at the center my son attends.

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      Lady Luv 3 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      I fully agree, Carolina. Nobody should be forced to swallow it when things are stolen. And I never attended the Shenck Jobcorps, but if it's anything like Grafton, then I wouldn't blame you for pulling him.

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      carolina 4 years ago

      My son goes to Schenck Job Corps Civilian Conservation Center. He has been there since September, has joined the SGA, is an officer in training for his dorm, and welcomes new students. He seems to be doing well; however, in the last three weeks he has had his phone charger stolen from the computer room, his wallet (with his driver's license and ss card in it) stolen from his "locked" locker, and his money (to including money I sent him) stolen. The most recent incident happening today. He has talk to the dorm staff in charge of his dorm, the residential manager, and the center director, ALL to no avail. He enjoys the campus and the trade he is in; however, he feels unsafe knowing that there is a thief on campus and that currently nothing is being done about it. I will be contacting the center director myself on Monday, not only to let her know of my dissappointment with this federally funded program, the staff, and the safety of my son and his belongings, but also to let her know that I will be contacting my state representative and senator's about how this center is run. I UNDERSTAND that this is a FREE educational program, however, that does not give these individuals the right to steal and then have the staff do NOTHING. So for those of you who have commented on here about making the best of it, well you explain to me how you "MAKE THE BEST OF IT" when you have your belongs stolen!!!!!! and then find out the center is doing nothing about it. Just another note-my son is not the only one who has had things stolen in these past three weeks. So right now you can bite me.

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      Mike 4 years ago

      I graduated from the North Texas Job Corp in 1998. I completed my high school diploma and the clerical trade. I was there for two years, and I even took a couple of college classes. They helped me and a group of friends get a job at a major hotel's call center. They also helped us find an apartment, which didn't turnout so great, but that's a different story. I am still friends with my best friend from job corp. I witnessed a lot of stuff in those two years. I was almost terminated several times, had to take the drug classes a couple of times, and even got pushed through a two story balcony (for looking at a guy "the wrong way"). I'm lucky I didn't break my neck. I clipped the side of an air conditioning unit with the side of my head on my way down. The guy who pushed me got terminated.

      I have a lot of really great memories from my time in job corp--lots of fun rec trips such as camping, rock climbing, movie trips, etc. I met a lot of really intersting and good people. We got high a lot and did things we weren't supposed to, but what 17 year old doesn't? I know for a fact that thanks to my government, I had a chance to flourish and build a solid foundation for the rest of my life. I wouldn't be where I am today without NTJCC.

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      Lady Luv 4 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Good luck, KWillie. And if it's the Grafton JC you're attending, I hope I dont end up saying I told you so later.

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      KWillie 4 years ago

      I can't stop laughing at this negative post as well as the negative comments. The best way to describe this is "NONE of you made the best of it". I am going in the next few weeks and cannot wait! Why? because I am GOING to make the best of it. Good day!

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      hello 4 years ago

      I attend the grafton job corps, Its not a haven but it sure isn't as bad as you make it sound. You got term pretty quickly. Sure you had plenty of write ups prior. Cause they go by levels and then you go on front of a board and they talk with you then decide if you get terminated. Don't know what happened to you but its not a bad place.

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      tnicolepb 4 years ago

      Well I am happy and sad to have read this, happy to know that my child wasn't lying about all of what goes on in jobcorps, and sad that she wasn't lying and all of what she has said is going on. My child went there on her own because she felt that she would be able to finish school on time as well as get a trade so that she could get a job save money to take care of herself. I have to send her food at times money to get her hair done and some other personal things because she says that she never gets picked to go on the trips that they have or she can't go out of the building it is a sad thing for a parent to have to hear. She will be leaving from there in 2 more months but keeps saying that the staff members don't like her and try to do everything to get her termed from there so that they don't have to help her. Jobcorps needs to be looked more into because this place sounds worst then any jail, hospital or even anything I ever heard of.

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      Noemi 4 years ago

      My boyfriend just left to Job Corps in Imperial Beach and he was so stoked to go make something out of himself. They told him they didn't know when he was coming back, that everything was at his own pace. Is that true? They also said no winter or summer break, what's up with that? I was tempted to go with him but Job Corps sounds horrible! Now that I've read all your reviews, I'm terrified that his tablet will be stolen and we won't be able to communicate or that he'll be screwed over. I haven't heard from him all day! Does anyone know if students can receive calls from home, or what that campus is like?

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      Lady Luv 4 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      @J. Ferraro- You obviously either didn't go to the Grafton location, or were a day tripper. Either way, this article was not meant for YOU. As you would know if you read the whole article. Also, as this is an opinion piece, of COURSE it is my own opinion. That is also stated previously. Anyhow, thanks for your contribution. Have a nice day.

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      J. Ferraro 4 years ago

      You clearly had a bad experience, however that doesn't make it the worst place ever or jail. Have you ever been to jail? There are many success stories of trainees who completed and are doing very well for themselves! Me being one of them! I'm not trying to take away from your experience, however this is your opinion. Job Corps is not College! This is a program with rules and structure and it's clearly not for everyone. As far as the recruiters, that is their job. Learn from them to do your own research.

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      Lady Luv 4 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      SOMEONE didn't read the entire article...either that, or didn't comprehend it.

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      Michael Borowy 4 years ago

      I don't think you relize that job corps isn't a job. its a training facility for those who need or would like to have experience in a trade. the allowance is not actual pay. they make it a paycheck so that you understand how getting paid in the real world works. Also they provide three hots and a cot along with help in education... Ya, the goverment funds it and they use you but the reason you go is not for a job, but for experience in a job. It's to help with getting a job after.

      So be pissed all you want but, they provided you with experience, a place to stay, and food to eat. If that wasn't what you wanted, why did you go in the first place.

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      Lady Luv 4 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      T, I would have gone AWOL if I were you. That's terrible!

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      4 years ago

      back in the mid 90's I enrolled in the Albany NY location....was presented to me to be a place of education free education and room and board and yes you get paid while going so you can get what you need...a week before I left someone explained it was a place for troubled adolescents and they have a choice of prison or Job Corps I laughed and said no way....within five minutes of being there I knew he was right and I DID NOT BELONG THERE!! I approached someone told them this was not the place for me and and they laughed at me and told me I could not call anyone for 48 hrs....later that night I saw a horrible fight where someone almost got their eye pulled out.....the room was the size of a closet with a bunk bed set....in room by a certain time community shower in morning then breakfast by a certain time....to me it was JAIL....lock down went along with it....it took two weeks for me to be able to get out of there!!!! I blocked out most memories this is all that I still have....

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      Lady Luv 4 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Kitty, I am sorry for your troubles, and your decision not to attend is , in my opinion, for the best.

      Garnell, I am pleased to see not ALL jobcorps locations are a study in torture. KUDOS, sir.

      Candice, I sincerely hope you do well in the Grafton Jobcorps. It had been years since my attendance, maybe they have changed. If not, just keep your nose in books, and mind your own. You'll do fine if you do not concern yourself with others, and keep the big picture, your own future, in the forefront of your mind.

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      candice 4 years ago

      Im so upset now im supposed to start my first day on Monday and this does not sound good to me but its my last chance ldk what to do

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      Garnell Kirven 4 years ago

      I attended Potomac Job Corps Center, located in Washington, DC from Aug. 1981-Oct. 1983. It was the one of the best times of my young life. I received my GED and BRAC clerical training Cert. I left with a good paying job. I received $250.00 the day I left, and they sent my readjustment balance which was $2,189.16. There were great activites, trips, lots of basketball and females. I was in heaven.........Didn't want to leave....

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      kitty 4 years ago

      I was going to go to Grafton job corps but they kept procrastinating on taking me. I signed up to go FIVE MONTHS AGO. My mother has been constantly trying to call them to get me in but they have failed to contact her back. I was already going tl stray away from going her but now after reading this I certainly shall. I'm not even in Grafton but they're already being lazy so why should I bother? I'm having family troubles and am constantly kicked out and crawling back but it's better than going to this hellhole. (16, was going to go into carpentry as a last minute thing since I dropped out of school from being bullied and attempting suicide one too many times. I really would rather to go into the sciences like astronomy, marine biology or entymology they all fascinate me.)

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      Destiny Kaitlyn Velez 5 years ago from Tampa

      Thank you ^_^ and I will

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      No problem. I just hope you take it! You seem very nice. Good luck out there!

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      Destiny Kaitlyn Velez 5 years ago from Tampa

      Thank you for the advice Lady Luv ^_^

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      One last thing, Destiny...if you don't wish to go to college because you do not wish to attend more school, know this: If you do not have a GED, jobcorps makes you attend "education" classes until they "assist" you in getting one. If you already have one, they STILL make you go to education until you can pass their tests. You are not allowed to learn your chosen trade until you do so.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Also, Destiny, I just did a bit of research. Most colleges do not require you to have a GED or highschool diploma to begin taking certificate programs. They just require you to have one before they issue you a certificate or degree.

      Here is a link to one of your local college's (Eckerd) financial aid and tuition help center. They could point you in the right direction if you wish to further yourself.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      I recommend you get your GED, and go to college. There are plenty of GED preparatory programs available, and if money is an issue, you could always go try for it without preparatory classes. Once you get that, the doors of colleges will open, and you can either go for adult education or vocational training certificate programs at a local community college, or go and get FAFSA(financial aid) and attend college for a degree in whatever field suits you.

      I know some people get discouraged by how long it takes to complete college, but trust me, it is worth every second. You can either go through some effert for a couple years now, and be on easy street for the rest of your life, or opt not to go through the effort of higher education, and struggle for the rest of your life.

      Think: A Registered Nurse can make $80 or more an hour. A fry jockey at McDonald's will never make more than minimum wage. Even their managers only make $10-15/hr after YEARS of being with the company.

      Go to college, Destiny. Educate yourself.

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      Destiny Kaitlyn Velez 5 years ago from Tampa

      Well I'm living with my older brother's in Tampa right now so no I'm not homeless, but, I'm not in school and have nowhere to go to get an Ed. so I'm lost at what to do next..

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Well, do you need to go? Are you becoming homeless, or have a bad family life? If not, then let me give you a piece of advice: If you value your self esteem and sanity, avoid the Grafton Jobcorps like the PLAGUE.

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      Destiny Kaitlyn Velez 5 years ago from Tampa

      Hi, I'm Destiny and I am a 17 year old Female and I've been thinking about going to one of the Job Corps in Florida. But I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Thanks, Monique! It's good to hear from someone who had a good experience (Soemwhat). Like I said, though, the Jobcorps I wrote of was Grafton, MA. They were no prize.

      Chad, good luck to you. Try and behave out there, and you'll be okay.

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      Monique 5 years ago

      Im Monique and i disagree wih what everyone had to say. i was a student in Glenmont Job Corps for 9 months before i was terminated. i was terminated because of MY OWN Stupidity. BUT prior to what i had done i was a great student and accomplished a lot in school. but rules are rules and its what you make it. Job corps does NOT have to pay us! they do it to be sre we ae able to get things we need!! if you get 25 to 50 bucks every 2 weeks that is more than enough for thingd you need!! they take you on recreational trips.. ymca six flags movie trips mall trips bowling ect.. to make students feel comfotable.

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      chad mcgruder 5 years ago

      yeah these place sounds freaking crazy.. but i just got kicked out my house for not taking my grandma to the store. so i have no other place to go but there :{

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Why wouldn't I attach people who don't agree with me? It's called objective debate. Not everyone needs to have the same opinion as me. Also, why would being homeless and a perfect student be mutually exclusive? Because I have issues with family, means I must be bad at school? The issue with my family is that THEY are pretty unintelligent, and that leads to hostility. Not an environment a young girl wanted to be in. I only stole to survive. I ate once a day, and not every day. I made it a point to only take things from chain corporations, not mom and pop stores. I never stole from people, robbed anyone, hurt anyone, or burgled anyone. I know it is wrong to steal, but I had little choice, as I was in a town with no food banks, which I was forced to remain in in order to have ANY contact with my child. My father was abusive. I did what I did to survive. It doesn't make me stupid, or even bad. I would never dream of stealing for any other reason. Your comment is appreciated, Job Corps Judge-mentalist. Have a nice day.

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      Job Corps Fan 5 years ago

      Lady Luv

      I just finished reading the entire blog. I found that your story changes you go from being a perfect student to a homeless teen stealing food. You also attach people who don't agree with you. ????

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      I have no way of knowing, but your daughter sounds like she comes from a strong family. I don't know her story, but I'm betting She probably just stood up for herself and questioned arbitrary rules. They tend to find ways to get rid of people who do that as well. Don't want people making a stink, now do they?

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      CaesarM 5 years ago

      Wow! I am a parent reading this blog. My daughter was recently ejected from Vt Job Corps. She is not a juvenile delinquent, in trouble with the law or some of the other things Ive read. She says she did nothing wrong. I could understand a zero tolerance policy in such a facility, but the way in which it was done was devastating to her. I must say I was not there and only heard her side but I told her when she was leaving "you are not going to make friends, concentrate on your studies, keep to yourself as much as possible. I was in the military, I lived in a Barracks with young woman of all ages, backgrounds, nationality etc, open showers, 2 bunks between wardrobes separated us, at some point you have got to take responsibility for yourself and your actions. I admit, if I had known the type of ppl that were attending I might have tried to talk her out of it.I had her read this blog so she knows she did not fail. Right now she feels like a failure and if she is being truthful and was wrongfully accused, then this place needs to be investigated I pay taxes too. She was not homeless she had full family support food money everything was sent to her, maybe that was part of the problem. She had her IPad to assist with her studies, maybe they felt she just didn't fit the profile.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      No, I am banned from the Job Corps program. For life. Now I am too old to attend, anyhow. But it's good to hear they aren't all bad. I have heard from some people that some of the facilities are pretty good. Then again, some were only day-trippers, and others...well...they didn't phrase the difference of opinion in the most pleasant way, so I can't say they are the most reliable sources.

      Seemed more like they are the type of people I was expounding on in this article. I mean, a place doesn't really suck if you are one of the people who MAKE it suck, now does it? Guess it IS all your point of view, in that situation.

      Anyhow, thanks for chiming in, Ken! I'm glad your experience is better than mine was. It's good to hear a success story once in awhile.

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      Ken 5 years ago

      I'm currently @ Atterbury Job Corps. Personally, I really don't have much issue being here. I mean ya, understandably its not a vacation spot, but what job corps is? I've noticed a large mis-conception with newer generations that pertain mainly to some people that think that job corps is a vacation spot. They seem to be under the assumption that coming to job corps is going to be easy and fun, on top of them basically being free and able to act like immature idiots. Don't get me wrong, I'm a 22 year old adult with a childish side yes, but there's a time and place for everything. Being here has actually helped me ( minus the drama and the high school behavioral issues people seem to suffer from now a days). The food is crap, the people are crap, but the education you get from actually putting your feet forward is a step up from having to pay 30k+ out of pocket. I'm currently enrolled in the CCMA program here, and when i complete want to continue my education in either blue ridge or Chatatooga, to become an LPN in less years then it would take for me to go to college and have to struggle with monetary issues. It's really how you look at it. Hell, I'm Currently in class right now responding to this post lol. But, back to the topic at hand, Job corps isn't supposed to be rainbows and butterflies.. its JOB CORPS. Not Happy Fairy land. Yes, most campus's could use some improvement as well as a better background screening, but to some this is all they have, and to others its a hellhole. To me? I've got my good days and my bad, but rather then pick out the negatives of this place, I'm sticking my best foot forward and going as far as i can before i give up. Better to see how much i can take before i break rather then giving up like alot of other people would. @Lady Luv: I agree with alot of the points that you make in your post, and i believe that job corps could use some HUGE improvement... but at the same time, were on two different wave lengths, and our experiences are in two very different areas. I'm sorry that you had such a bad experience here.. have they told you wether or not you could reapply at a different campus?

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      I know nothing of that location, friend. Good luck to you!

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      juan 5 years ago

      im 15 and look up to go to job corps in San Marcos, TX I dont think it will be bad.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Sounds eerily familiar, Miss Abhorsen. Glad you're rid of them.

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      miss_abhorsen 5 years ago

      I agree with your entire post Lady Luv. I graduated from the Detroit job corps in 2008. So many thing are wrong with that place. The only thing you got lucky with was having only two other roommates. In Detroit that pack you like sardine. In a room that barely can house 2 they squeeze in 4! The staff are ill trained, the place is dangerous (an someone was killed in a shooting on site) They don't want to give you your exit pay, yet they hound you for MONTHS to do their crap survey so they can get theirs. My mother-in-law and my Grandmother had to curse them out because they kept calling there homes. The only thing they didn't lie about was the classes be self paced, they should have added the classes are self taught. Everything I learned, I learned using the internet on my phone. The teachers sure as hell didn't teach.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Thanks for writing in, Matt. Don't let the place get you down. Try to keep yourself entertained in ways that won't cause havoc. It keeps you sane.

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      Matt 5 years ago

      I'm there its true but they are improving, taking EMT great coarse would recommend it to anyone who can handle the stress.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      The situation you are in is one of the few where I would say GO FOR IT, Natasha. I, too, was once homeless because of familial issues, and had to steal to eat because nobody would hire me. I fully understand. YES, JC is definitely better than that. But be forewarned and don't fall into the wrong circles. Keep to yourself and don't listen to idiots, or let your temper get you down, and you'll do fine. NEVER TRUST ANYONE, either. Even if they seem like your BFF. Good Luck, girl.

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      Natasha 5 years ago

      Hi,

      I've recently came to the decision to attend Jobcorps. It is an entirely last resort. I was practically disowned by my parents, and made the poor decision of dropping out of highschool at the age of 18. I am homeless and I live day to day wondering where I'll be sleeping next week. I'm lonely and afraid and I have almost given up hope until I heard about this program.. A lot of people say it is bad. But you can't expect a 5 star hotel for a program based around young adults who are troubled and from what I've read potentially dangerous. I myself have never been in a fight. But I am no angel, I've stolen a lot before and sometimes it gets so bad I've stolen food to escape starvation.. When I heard I could have a place to live for free as well as meals and a chance to further my education, I jumped in too. I don't know for sure how it is going to be, but all I can do is remain positive. If your life is troubled like mine maybe it will help you. Maybe it won't. But there is no harm in trying. I say if you are interested in attending, go for it.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Good advice there at the end, Kay, "The key to that place is shut up, keep to yourself, your not there to make friends your there to do something and get out and move on. If you do just that you'll be fine and tougher for it", but you are incorrect about MY being incorrect. I HAVE fed myself, as well as my child, for $200 a month. You just have to know how to shop.

      Also, yes, there ARE apartments for $100 a week. Not in any good area, and not large at all, but they exist. Not to mention rooming houses, which rent you a room to yourself with a shared common area and restroom.

      Now, you also made a mistake in taking AN EXAMPLE literally in the first place.

      But thank you for your comment. Keep being positive!

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      kay 5 years ago

      As a former graduate I agree with multiple things here, yes the people are shady, your roommates can bring your scores down, things WILL get stolen, and the restrictions they place on you are stifling to the point of near insanity. At the same time ITS FREE EDUCATION. Yes you only get paid 25$, but what are your living costs? $0, and those numbers you came up with are completely irrational it takes well over 200$ a month to feed yourself and an apartment is more than $100 a week. Job corps is by no means a pleasant place to be, i cant even count how many near mental breakdowns i had there and it can be hellish. Bottom line its not there to be fun, its there as a last resort. To complain that such a system is in place for people who are failing is distasteful, if it wasnt there im sure you'd be rallying for something like it. The key to that place is shut up, keep to yourself, your not there to make friends your there to do something and get out and move on. If you do just that you'll be fine and tougher for it.

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      Julia 5 years ago

      I'm actually at that specific center right now. And you know...yeah, it sucks. But...I deal. Where else am I going to learn a trade for free? Hell, not even for free. They at least have the decency to PAY YOU. And if you can't deal with that, then you can get another job off center. Like at the Walmart or Target, or anything in the area, and make more money that way. It's a school, and they're paying you to go there, along with providing free food (even if it isn't the best, it's at least edible, so you don't starve), and you get free room and board. I can say I don't like it all I want, but I at least respect what they have to offer, and am happy to say that I am a job corps student, who will be graduating shortly.

      Gratitude is a crazy thing.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      Yes. THAT was my plan, Shyla. To stop their funding. Because I'm obviously an idiot who thinks my lil blog will move the world. And what, should I write a positive review of my negative experience, folks? I wrote an objective review of my OWN experience, so people would have more than Jobcorps sponsored media propaganda and recruiter information to go on, unlike myself.

      ALSO: Like I pointed out in the article, I am NOT some misfit or criminal, I am a regular woman, I had a small child, and was looking for some education. I do not even have a criminal record. So thanks, all you commenters who didn't even bother reading it in full, and then pass judgement. You're idiots.

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      Shyla 5 years ago

      Stop bitching.

      Its a good facilty depending on what campus you're on.

      Never had an issue there. I'm actually going back to another campus.

      Its what you make of it.

      Writing negative reviews won't get people to stop attending or prevent the funding they get from the government(25k per student).

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      Trevor Lefiles 5 years ago

      Sounds like a bunch of drug using people complaining about the justice system, and being mostly 16 to 24 of course you will complain, cause you got your family shit holes, you got your shitty drug habits, your shitty life, your shitty mental problems, your shitty social services.

      And for what?

      Change your fucking life, the best way there is, by getting your ass back into social norms which does not mean the now morals, ask your elders. Geez. ELDERS. Over 50.

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      Lady Luv 5 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      @ Shawn: Obviously everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, and I'm sure there are some few higher quality jobcorps out there (not that I've heard of any before now), but all things told, Shawn, it sounds like maybe you haven't been with jobcorps for very long. I, too, thought it was the best idea ever...for a few weeks. The entore point of this article is to give people a heads up to the outright LIES that the recruiters tell people, and the major errors in management that are made, so people can make an INFORMED decision when entering JC, instead of only having the fluff pieces written by employees to gather information from.

      Also, please note that the picture shown is of the sign for the GRAFTON Jobcorps. That's very important.

      Sorry if I offended you.

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      corey 5 years ago

      damn just admit that job corps is shitty and you know it. you sound like a after school special and there paying you to speak

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      Trevor Anthony 5 years ago

      so true what this girl has said...im being fucked over as we speak caNT get my drivers license for sum odd reason,but im being booted with a permit instead...which is great to sum point...but i asked for an extension on my time at JC AHEAD OF TIME to get these "Required things" done but nope...prolly because i had to many write ups? i never attended the REQUIRED CTP stage to help me with these things...i attended Ouachita JC in AR cant believe i had to ride a bus from Louisiana to AR just to get fukd....email me if anyone can tell me what i did wrong dhayter927@gmail.com

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      Shawn 6 years ago

      Wow, you people are really annoying. I currently attend the Colbran Job Corps program, and although it is not the best thing in the world, it does its job in preparing me to be successful in the real world. I used to sell drugs and smoke weed all day, without a care in the world, until life smacked me in the face. What you don't realize is that I attend THE BEST Job Corps in the country. You Probably attended some shit hole that wishes they could be like CJC (not to be confused with the jail) I will admit that sometimes I wish I could leave, that I could go home and do what i wanted when I wanted, but how would that help me learn to structure myself? Spend my time wisely for work and play. How to correctly behave if I dislike someone, instead of trying to beat their ass. The problem you had was this, you didn't research what job corps was really like, and you sure as hell didn't research what YOUR job corps was like. It is a federally funded program, and they pay you to stay there. Why the fuck would they pay you minimum wage, when you are learning for FREE. sure, high school is free, but can you do it in 2 years? NO I currently take classes that would cost me close to 3 grand per class for FREE. The government pays YOU to learn for FREE. They give you a place to sleep and feed you FOR FREE. WHY? all in hopes that you will become a successful individual who ends up paying TAXES, and guess what, 40+ years of working and paying taxes more than makes up for the 30+ thousand they spend on EACH student a year. Let me give it to you straight. If you want to go to job corps, dont go to the ones that have staff weraing BPV's becvause they are afraid of there own students, obviously they do not have it right there, how they continue to operate is beyond me. Go to a NICE well working job corps, the one I am at is the BEST in the COUNTRY they are so good at what they do OTHER CENTER DIRECTORS come to OURS to see how they can change THEIRS for the better... we get paid, it starts at 17.00 every two weeks and then works it way up to 47.03 after 6 months. There are other way to make money as soon as you prove to them you are commited, would you have 2 grand to someone you barely know? neither would they... Also, dont think this is summer camp. This is an alternative center where you must learn to be JOB READY at all times. You must tuck in your shity at ALL TIMES you must not cuss you must not run around and horseplay, all of these things can get you written up and lose points (which can greatly affect how awesome or shitty your stay is depending on your actions and attitude) and room scores are stupid, that does not exist, instead they have "dorm" scores, where you clean for an hour in the morning, before voc training, and then they score your results, if you do horribly as a whole dorm, then you clean again for another hour that same day, nothing keeps you from going out on movie trips or swimming trips or hiking trips or white water rafting UNLESS you get written and points are taken away. its really that simple, dont fuck up and you are highly rewarded, continue to break the rules and you get to do nothing your whole stay or until they kick you out. job corps is not that bad, you just didn't go the right one. I am going to leave this place with my CompTIA A+ cert, my network+ Cert and possibly my CCENT Cert, along with completions from my trade.

      moral of the story, do not just listen to one review of one place out of the 400 in the country, learn to research before you do anything, knowledge is power and power can get you pretty much anything.

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      Arielle 6 years ago

      Yeah... You know what, they say a zero tolerance area and everyone is safe...

      I went to Columbia Basin Job Corps and they fucked me over. Sure, I was a great student there but you know what?

      There was a guy there who was sexually harrassing me, and I reported him, they told us to avoid each other than he started stalking me...

      You know what's worse about that? I reported him again and they didn't do anything about it.

      He decides to get hired on as an RSM, I was already an RSM... So I talk to the Rec Staff and he said he'd fire him. The next week this boy is still on the schedule and I decided I had enough and I left.

      Don't get me started on the teachers, they say equal oppurtunity but damned if you have add or ADHD they bitch you out for being too loud during class...

      I told my teacher over and over again that I in order for me to learn her material (Because she said she wanted us to learn it the best way we could) that I need to have some fun with it... But she expected me to sit and READ and not have fun during class...

      Oh and I also had a miscarriage while I was there... The Clinic staff told me that I was blowing things out of proportion...

      Well, everyone I asked about it told me yep, that sounds like a miscarriage...

      Anyways, done ranting... Job Corps is a horrible place and I refuse to send anyone there... I don't even want my brother going there and he's thinking about it!

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      Julian Baczkowski 6 years ago

      I just got screwed over here. i went to the medina one for carpentry. i completed the trade. and i was told, if you get into college or find a job, after u comeplete trade u can leave. So i just got a job at tops, and signed up for college and got in. Now they tell me i wont get my money, and they wont bring me to my job. they also have $200 of my dollars from working, which i cant get back.... THIS IS THE WORST PLACE TO GO..... DONT SEND ANYONE THERE.

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      Jillian Barclay 6 years ago from California, USA

      Thank you! Perfect!

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      Lady Luv 6 years ago from Webster, MA, USA

      I added a brief description. Thanks for reading!

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      Jillian Barclay 6 years ago from California, USA

      This is a program that has received tons of money from the federal government! I am now outraged! Please put in an explanation of what Job Corps is, for people like me, who knew nothing about it! This is outrageous!

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      Jillian Barclay 6 years ago from California, USA

      I have never heard of Job Corps. Now I have to research it. Sounds disgusting!

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      Casandra Tayse 6 years ago

      It was hell...The day I left I had accidentally left a few of my things there. So I call them up and notify them about that, and let them know that I'm on my way.. Now when I first called them and explained to them the situation, they then told me that my things were there and that I could go on campus and grab my belongings.. So my mother and I leave for job corps. We get there they tell us that my things are there, but then two minutes later they tell my mom that they don't know what stuff I'm talking about.. We sat there for an hour straight dealing with there BS telling me that my things aren't there when on the phone they said different! So after arguing with them for an hour I never got my belonging back... THANK YOU JOB CORPS YOU KICKED ME OUT AND STOLE MY BELONGINGS!!

      I would NEVER EVER EVER recommend this to anyone, and I advise you to NEVER send your child to that hell on earth.. It isn't worth it at all..

      Not to mention, when I completed all the medical trades my original certificates were lost!! And before I was kicked out, I was on the permit list to go get one & I was on my way to getting my CNA license ... THANKS AGAIN JOB CORPS YOU SCREWED ME OVER!