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Killing and massacre due to Religion in today’s world, CAR in prospective.

Updated on December 10, 2013

Do people really kill over this symbol

Flags have crosses sideways. Is that enough to kill over?
Flags have crosses sideways. Is that enough to kill over?

Death to Americans they shout!

A meeting here in our offices just concluded. There were four of us, all American, one Christian, one Buddhist, one non-theist and one atheist. The non-theist really has Jewish roots and mindset while the proclaimed atheist really has “mother earth” type spirituality. We could pull up so many more examples with every faith known.

So how does one faith want to proclaim “death to America”. The idea is just ludicrous. If there is any sense to it at all it would require making the leap that even if an American was of the faith of the decrier that just living in America would make you an infidel and blasphemer of the faith.

Just take for example a Muslim that lives in the United States of America. She is devout and observes even traditions and liturgy from her faith. Does just because she lives in Yavapai County, Arizona make her someone to want to kill even by fellow Muslims? That is just ridiculous.

So we watch the news coming out of the Central African Republic. And a photo shows a Christian about to kill an ex-rebel militiaman. I suppose the idea would be to kill the man because others like him killed Christians. The other’s like him may or may not have been Muslim. But make no doubt that some of the divide in that country is due to Christian vs. Muslim. But is it really?

Do not blame this book.

I doubt that one person who has killed another in CAR has read this book.
I doubt that one person who has killed another in CAR has read this book. | Source

Here is part of what is being reported

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/12/07/french-army-deploys-in-western-northern-central-african-republic/?intcmp=obinsite

(I like to get news from many sources but an easy way is to get one publisher with a clear bent and then look for content from a publisher with a different bent. In this case it is Fox using AP. Still not perfect but in this day and age, not bad)

“”PARIS – An official says French troops are deploying in western and northern regions of the Central African Republic, a day after France stepped up its presence in its former colony to try to stem violence there.””

I think “former colony” says a lot as to probable reasons for historic conflict.

“”Col. Gilles Jaron, a French defense ministry spokesman, said the French force reached its full deployment of 1,200 on Saturday, with some entering the west of the country from neighboring Cameroon.””

Don’t you think that probably is neighboring countries are where troops are deployed from that there may be more political reasons?

“”Jaron said other French troops are leaving Bangui, the capital, on a reconnaissance mission to the north. He declined to provide specifics on their destination or how many were involved.

France had pledged to increase its presence well before Christian militias attacked Bangui at dawn Thursday. Clashes between Christian militias and mostly Muslim ex-rebels have left at least 281 people dead.””

Sorry but what is a Christian Militia? And what does “mostly Muslim ex-rebels” mean? What are the names of these “City Churches” or “rebel mosques”.

What do you believe?

Do you think the conflict in CAR is religious in nature?

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Best efforts to find some truth.

There was one BBC article that suggested it was about the religious aspects however close examination indicates that the labels are just that. Check it out if you want to at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24802898

Reading through 50 or more quotes now I have not read one person wanting to kill another because of their beliefs. They want to kill each other because they are maniacs. And the other side’s maniacs killed some on their side and so of course we kill them back.

This author could not find one source showing that the maniacs were killing each other and each other’s families because of religious dogma and certainly no one claimed they were killing because God told them to kill.

So where does this lead us? It leads this writer to conclude that the fracture between to religions is not about religions. A search of Al-Jazeera did not reveal any strong sentiment that this was a religious based conflict. Again any reference seems like simply a tool to label the factions:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/9/-french-troops-pushfurtherintocar.html

This time for Africa!

So again we are left with headlines that are not supported by facts and we are given captions to photo’s with no support.

Now these folks on the Christian side hang out and hide and find refuge in Catholic properties/missions. This is a time honored concept around much longer than you have been around. But I see no evidence that priests or the Pope are suggesting that anyone go about killing anyone.

Now the “Muslim” rebels – militia, does not a an Imam taking credit or of any import. In fact the Muslim “president” and even Al-Jazeera seem quite bothered by them.

Hundreds and thousands dead and instead of a civil war it is Christians versus Muslim. It is not. That concept is from reporters and publishers saying that it is. That is blatant and scary.

In other words there is no hateful terrible conflict between religions here. There is a nasty horrible lack of respect and civil war. The rule of law has lost any weight. And so maniacs kill maniacs and instead of correcting behavior spectators come and act like participants. And they are amateur idiots.

Let there be darkness.

Perhaps we will see better with out the press lighting the way.
Perhaps we will see better with out the press lighting the way. | Source

Do it in the name of Heaven you can justify it in the end!

The UN is involved and I find no report that the involvement has to do with religion. French, American and African armed forces are getting involved and believe your eyes they are not doing so because of religion.

Only the press/media hypes this as religious in nature and yet they give no evidence. I was amazed at photos of “Christian fighters”. Do you know why?, because not one of them had a Catholic or other Christian symbol around their neck. Now that is very odd indeed. Or is it?

No one that I can tell or see in CAR is killing for their God of a religion.

It would be a great thing for someone to prove this author wrong for then we could all learn. It would be great if someone commented with facts of inconsistency with this article as we could all learn. And it would be good if someone pointed out errors and further “links” to better knowledge.

But it would be super great if the occurrences herein spoken of were not occurring. But I am afraid they are and we must do something.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor!

Do not claim justification

Go ahead and do wrong and then claim justification. You do not speak for any God and you are a religious idiot. What you do in revenge and hate is not done in love. And no god stands for less than love.

If hate is your religion go and worship by your own self. If you do violence in the name of your god, show him to me, and I will show him mercy. No love of life can take a life. Man can take a life and too often must. But he bears that burden all by himself.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dragonflycolor, millions upon millions have fought and died for "religion" and that is so sad. However billions and billions have found good in it. Thank you

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      dragonflycolor 3 years ago

      I just feel like religion is a smoke screen for the real interpretation of said hate. It sounds, to me, like the action of violence is "accepted" because it is defined as part of someone's religious convictions. It's a horrible association and it would be best if people would just stop inciting hate, acting on hate, and executing violence upon each other. I'd rather get a high five from a total stranger than a napalm attack, and I'm wondering why they do not seem to want the same.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      We need to take our faith back. We do not kill for Christ. How crazy?

      Today I just love and I start by loving you.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 3 years ago from The Caribbean

      Eric, I like the questions you ask as well as the conclusion you made. Sometimes the news reporters say so much, the people who should be talking just nod their heads. For example, they may say religious because that's their opinion.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Brian, when I had toy soldiers in a sand box next to my ant farm. I thought weird thoughts. And then I turned 4.

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      Brian Prickril 3 years ago from Savannah, GA

      Religious wars have never made sense to me. I remember being confused about it as a little boy. And now I am grown up and still confused. I just don't see things that way.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I think we are about ready (the world) to start saying no to these bastards that kill for "God". I was real pleased with Al-J's coverage -- they definately were not backing these "ex-rebels" and neither is the Muslin President.

      A perfect place for Christians to be like Nelson Mandela!!!

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      Robbie Newport 3 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      Thanks for the article, and bringing intentions to this issue. Your right those who are killing aren't walking with Jesus following his word. Muslims though are following the Koran, because it directs them to kill the infidel. The Bible says to love your enemies and those that spitefully use you.

      Christians are permitted to defend themselves though. The point you make that it would be better it wasn't happening at all is the biggest truth.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you friend. Brutal truths

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Your last paragraph said it all my friend. Any killing done in the name of God is a farce. :) Well said.