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Mueller Indictment on the Russians?

Updated on February 17, 2019

Mueller Indictment on 13 Russians

This was written in February 2018, and what has changed since then? Nothing!

Robert Mueller indicted Russians and they pleaded not guilty to any and all charges forcing Mueller to ask the judge for a delay. What do we need to know about the Mueller 37 page indictment of thirteen Russians.Today, where have these indictments gone, and what did they prove on the matter of Russian Collusion in the 2016 presidential election?

Rod Rosenstein, deputy US attorney general concluded the following about the Mueller Indictment.

Some defendants communicated with "unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign. Some not all the defendants.Communicated with individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, but these individuals had no idea who they really were. and with other political activists.What other political activists?

Could they have included the Clinton staff or associates, or maybe the Bernie Sanders staff or associates? Bottom line we don't know the exact communications, nor the targets. To seek to coordinate political activities." What political activities were they? And what was the purpose of trying to coordinate them? We don't really know? We also don't know how this plan would work, or did work? Was it successful, and if so how was it successful?

But US Deputy AG, Rod Rosenstein did say that "there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity." NO American, none and that means that indictment of 13 Russians is not relevant to the original Mueller investigation which was Trump Russia collusion on influencing the US presidential election of 2016. Saying that NO American colluded with these thirteen Russians means that Trump didn't collude with the Russians. It also means that the Russians didn't collude with Trump, or his associates. Therefore, as the indictment stands, it is not the proof that the Mueller or any of the investigations that were about Trump Russia collusion on influencing the US presidential election. We aren't these 13 Russians represent Russia. Other than being Russians can we impute their actions to be acts of Russia the country? If Americans did that in a foreign country, and they were not associated with the US Government should that foreign country say the US was trying to influence their election. Or would they construe those acts by Americans as being limited to these people and not the US government? US Deputy AG Rosenstein says in addition, "there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election." That statement says their efforts couldn't be traced to any change in the election's outcome. What ever they were doing, it didn't really change anything.

If you are on the left you can dream, but reality won't make that dream come true

That would have been a clear path to follow back and see if someone did put their thumb or hand on the scale.

Why wasn't there an investigation over the Democrat Primary when Hillary Clinton's primary opponent senator Bernie Sanders mysteriously dropped out of the race. There wasn't any investigation on that at all.Yet, there was an email trail that showed collusion of Hillary and the DNC to get Sanders out of the primary. These emails were leaked, and then published by Wikileaks, but just because they were leaked, they were nevertheless the real emails sent by Hillary and the DNC. Neither Hillary or anyone on the DNC or anyone at all ever contested the authenticity of those emails. Yet, no Investigation Isn't conspiring to get your primary opponent out the race, influencing the presidential election? If you can conspire to take out your primary opponent, then you have already fixed the race. The conclusion here is that the Mueller Indictment is not proof of collusion, and certainly not collusion of any American, of which Trump and his associates are included. There is no Russia involvement, just Russians and that is a big difference when trying to find Trump Russian collusion.


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    • breakfastpop profile image


      13 months ago

      Dear brad,

      Now that's a celebration I could get on board with.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad Masters 

      13 months ago from Orange County California BSIT BSL JD


      The Republicans need to call for an end of the democrat Mueller investigation, and as you say the beginning of investigating Hillary, DNC. the alleged DNC server hacking, and the Dossier for starters.

      Then the celebration begins. :)

    • breakfastpop profile image


      13 months ago

      The investigation has to end. A new investigation, minus Mueller, can begin, but it begins with Hillary and the DNC.


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