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My Budget Alternative To Rep. Paul Ryan's "Path To Survival Of The Fittest"

Updated on October 5, 2015

My Budget Alternative to Paul Ryan's "Path to Survival of the Fittest"

Many people were anxiously awaiting Rep. Paul Ryan's budget plan entitled "The Path to Prosperity" . I was one of them. Ryan is the Republican House Budget Committee Chairman and he had a reputation for being a responsible budget cutter. I expected extremely sharp cuts in most programs but not a draconian social re-engineering of our entire social safety net. Medicare and Medicaid become voucher programs under his plan which will effectively destroy them. He would also repeal the new Healthcare Reform program just passed in 2010.

He claims he will drastically cut corporate welfare by ending bailouts and dismantling such housing support programs as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Curiously he refuses to touch tax breaks that immensely profitable corporations such as oil companies receive. Many programs are eliminated or slashed that have the broad support of the Democratic party while leaving intact programs that are favorites of the Republican party. These programs represent a negligible percentage of the budget and thus are simply partisan political cuts. The middle and lower classes have been effectively stripped of most of the social programs that they rely on in this Ryan budget plan. To add insult to injury, he also included tax cuts for the wealthy and added tax breaks and incentives for Corporate America while making those social safety net cuts. I agree with Rep. Ryan that we urgently need to close this massive budget deficit. It threatens to destroy our country's creditworthiness and will saddle our children and grandchildren with crushing debt. But Rep. Ryan's plan is a cruel insult to the working class of the United States. If implemented it will drop millions into poverty and leave millions more extremely vulnerable.

We can do better than this and I have my own plan to start significantly cutting the budget deficit without endangering the welfare of the vast majority of our citizens. I will address only the three largest parts of the federal budget because they are the only areas that will yield significant savings or revenue to address this massive deficit. These areas are Defense and Homeland Security, social entitlements, and the tax code. Only these components will yield the savings and revenue that will put the United States on the road to fiscal solvency without sacrificing the working class of our country.

The United States military complex has been growing exponentially since the end of World War II. President Dwight Eisehhower warned the nation about the dangers of this phenomenon at the end of his second term. This rapid growth continued on unchecked whether there was a war being conducted or not. The Cold War was the usual reason given for this growth until the Soviet Union fell apart in the 1980's. Yet this growth continued through the 1990's even without a war to blame it on.

Then the 9/11 attacks occurred in 2001 sending military and homeland security spending soaring. Combine this with the subsequent Afghanistan and Iraq Wars and defense spending went through the roof. Military spending for 2012 is scheduled to total 680 billion dollars. Total defense spending including Homeland Security departments will total 881 billion. The spending for the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars will be 118 billion. These runaway expenditures must be cut back sharply.

Serious cuts may be achieved through a continuation of Secretary Gates' proposals for sharp reductions in redundant weapons systems and bases. I also believe there should be sharp reductions in troop levels in Europe and Asia. Nuclear weapons expenses should also drop as a result of the new nuclear arms treaty with Russia. I believe we can achieve 80 billions dollars worth of savings annually by way of these cuts. By 2015 the U.S. war committments in Afghanistan and Iraq should be down dramatically consisting of advisory and support troops. Expenses should be down to a total of 30 billion dollars per year at a maximum. That will save us 90 billion dollars annually. This makes my final estimate of defense savings for military, defense, and homeland security 170 billion dollars a year. It will take a lot of political muscle and tenacity to navigate this plan through Congress, the military brass, and the defense contractor lobbies. If done correctly it will strengthen our economic security without lessening our national defense.

Now let us turn to the area where Paul Ryan was the most controversial and cruel. This would be entitlements spending. The four main programs involved here are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the new Healthcare Reform plan. Let's start with Social Security. I constantly hear that this program is broken. Nonsense! Demographics caused by the retirement of the Baby Boomers will be causing a shortfall in this program for a few decades. The fix is a simple one and long overdue. There is an income threshold where social security deductions can be withheld from employee paychecks but no higher. Currently this income level is $106,800. Social Security has not undergone a major change in its structure since 1983. I believe now is the time for a change especially with so many Baby Boomers retiring. The retirement benefits eligibility age has already been pushed higher a couple of times. I think it is now time to raise that income threshold to $120,000. My estimate is that this change will generate an additional 50 billion dollars a year into the Social Security fund.

Next let us turn to what is probably the thorniest entitlements program. That would be Medicare. A large amount of savings in the Medicare program has already been included in the Healthcare Reform bill which will begin to kick in during the year 2014. I believe another 20 billion dollars annually in waste and fraud can be extracted out of this system. Unfortunately these cuts are not enough. Medicare spending is expected to total 468 billion dollars in 2012. Only 57% of this total is now financed through the Medicare withholding taxes. The government withholds 1.45% of an employee's wages per check for Medicare as well as taxing his or her employer the same amount. These rates have been in effect since 1987 which was many years before the Baby Boom generation were due to retire. The time has come to accommodate this major demographic shift. I propose that this rate be raised to 1.75%. This change would raise approximately another 56 billion dollars annually bringing the percentage of Medicare spending covered by Medicare withholding taxes up to 70%. The balance of Medicare funding comes from general revenues.

Medicaid is fully funded by general revenues in the budget. The estimated 2012 expenditures for Medicaid is 269 billion dollars. I believe that 20 billion dollars of waste and fraud could easily be found in this massive yet essential program for the poor. I would also like to make some observations about the new Healthcare Reform plan which Rep. Ryan wants to repeal. Much skepticism has been leveled at this plan both during its creation and subsequently after its passage. Many predict it will cause the budget deficit to skyrocket. I totally disagree. My belief is that it was a carefully crafted plan and was designed to be budget neutral. I also believe it will remain so as long as its critics are unsuccessful in their attempts to have it significantly altered. Finally there are also several other mandatory programs that are estimated to cost American taxpayers a total of 598 billion dollars in 2012. I believe we can also find savings in these various programs of 60 billion dollars in fraud and waste without much problem. All told I have come up with 206 billion dollars in savings and tax rate hikes in our various entitlement programs that can be applied to the budget deficit.

The final aspect of the federal budget that I would like to address is the Federal Income Tax system. My budget deficit solution in this area comes in two parts. The first is very simple. The Bush tax cuts should be allowed to expire at the end of 2012. I would like to repeal them immediately but that would not be politically feasible. The expiration of these tax cuts would yield the Treasury an extra 325 billion dollars annually. These cuts were foolishly passed in 2001 due to the large budget surpluses the U.S. was running after years of deficits. My belief is that these surpluses should have been applied to retiring much of the debt that we had incurred during previous years. The economy was humming along and did not need the stimulus that these tax cuts would provide. President George W. Bush promised these cuts in an effort to get himself elected in the 2000 Presidential election. So much for Republican economic common sense. These cuts immediately put us back into deficit and then the 9/11 attacks took place. The subsequent additional spending for homeland and national defense swelled the deficit even further. Then we entered into the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and our national budget deficit hit levels never imagined before. Yet President Bush never asked the American people for any sacrifice to fight this "War on Terror" that he had declared. I propose we now eliminate these tax cuts that we never could afford to help balance the budget and return us closer to the fiscal sanity of the 1990's.

The other Federal Income Tax area that I would like to address are some corporate tax breaks and some individual deductions. The two industries that I would like to focus my corporate welfare tax breaks on are oil and farming. Both of these sectors are flourishing and are generating immense profits. It is hard to justify continuing their tax breaks in this dismal budget environment. The oil industry gets 21 billion dollars a year in tax breaks while they earn much more than that quarterly. These subsidies are almost one hundred years old and are clearly no longer necessary. The industry is now completely mature. Besides, we are attempting to transition to alternative renewable energy sources.

The farm subsidies are an anachronism from the Great Depression era when a huge amount of small farmers were going bankrupt. Now U.S. farming is dominated by massive corporate farms which are commanding record profits. It is difficult to argue that they have a real need for the 20 billion dollars a year in subsidies they currently receive. I would also propose the elimination of the 3 billion dollar ethanol subsidy. Ethanol utilizes almost as much energy to create it than the energy it replaces. Therefore I consider this subsidy to be a total waste of money.

I would also eliminate the state and local income tax deduction which costs the Treasury 50 billion dollars a year. This deduction always seem to be on the chopping block only to be saved at the last minute. I believe the time has come to finally strip this deduction out of the Federal Income Tax Code. Our deficit is too massive to allow it to continue. I would also place some restrictions on the home mortgage interest deduction. This deduction was abused in recent years helping to fuel the housing bubble. It helped finance many second homes, summer homes, and home equity loans. My restrictions would only allow this deduction for primary homes worth 1 million dollars or less. All other mortgages and home equity loans would now be ineligible for this deduction. The restrictions on this deduction will save the U.S. taxpayer approximately 25 billion dollars a year. All told my changes to the Federal Income Tax Code will generate an additional 444 billion dollars a year and cut the budget deficit by over 40%.

The estimated Federal budget deficit for 2012 without any changes stands at 1.1 trillion dollars. The combination of cuts and taxes that I have proposed in this article totals 820 billion dollars annually. I tried to formulate spending cuts and tax changes that made sense and were practical to at least one side of the political aisle. I state this because the Democrats seem unwilling to entertain most spending cuts and the Republicans are repelled by the mere suggestion of any tax hikes or tax break eliminations. Thus it seems impossible to please both sides on any one aspect of my plan.

The biggest piece of my proposal is the elimination of the Bush tax cuts which would return us to the last era of fiscal sanity and prosperity. The Social Security and Medicare paycheck withholding increases will give these vital programs the ability to withstand the assault on them by the retirements of the Baby Boom Generation. The elimination of unnecessary tax breaks for the flourishing Oil and Farm industries also makes total sense. At the same time I am asking for severe and painful cuts to entitlement programs totalling 100 billion dollars. This is in addition to 170 billion dollars worth of defense spending cuts. Rep. Ryan estimates that his plan will achieve deficit savings of 4.4 trillion dollars over ten years. My plan would save 7.725 trillion dollars over the course of ten years.

I expect increased revenues will be coming into the U.S. Treasury coffers as a result of the economic recovery. This amount should total around 200 billion dollars annually once the economy is at peak performance. It will probably take around three years for the economy to ramp up to this level. My plan combined with this economic and revenue resurgence should put the budget in balance or near balance by 2015.

Rep. Ryan's plan leaves the deficit very far from balanced. His "Path to Prosperity" is heavier on cuts than mine but includes no additional tax revenues. Ironically it includes large tax cuts for the wealthy and Corporate America. This is just not fair and is a spit in the eye to working class America. This bears the classic imprint of Grover Norquist. Grover is president of the group entitled "Americans For Tax Reform". He is against any tax increases and any tax subsidy eliminations. His entire philosophy is quite simple. Starve government to shrink it. Norquist fights everyone tooth and nail to prevent any added tax revenues from entering the U.S. Treasury in any form. He has had virtually all Republicans sign his pledge to never raise taxes. He holds each and everyone of them to it and will campaign strongly against them if they renege on this promise in any way.

I feel that my plan is much more fair to all citizens of the United States. It is more effective than the other plans I have read about and probably more politically palatable. The Far Left and the Far Right will most likely howl at my plan. I will take this as a sure sign that I am on to something good if that occurs. Most importantly, the elderly of this country will not be left to secure their own healthcare insurance coverage in a private market that will surely price them out of it. This would transpire just when they are at their most vulnerable stage of their lives. The middle and lower classes will pay more to ensure that their social programs are not pulled out from under them. Everyone will have to pay more and have a little less. The wealthy will not be getting the tax breaks that Rep. Ryan proposes. They do not need them and they will only increase the wealth gap in our society.

Fairness and shared sacrifice are the key phrases that I would use to characterize my long term budget plan. We are all in this great American society together. One for all and all for one. I know that all plans are tweaked and I am fully open to debate on all of my points. The key for me is that fairness and protection of all of our citizens is maintained. Maybe the tax code needs to be changed to stimulate more investment and job creation. Maybe there are more significant cuts that can be found without hurting our most vulnerable citizens too significantly. I hope my plan sparks a lively debate and yields some innovative new ideas. We have little time before our national debt swallows us up and we are put on a permanent road of economic backwardness. Please implore your elected representatives to compromise and come up with a fair and effective plan to balance our national budget now. Time is running out for not only us but for generations to come.

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, The funding comes from the general budget. You are right. It should not. Our medicare paycheck whithdrawals should be higher. We are undertaxed. This is true no matter how hard the Far Right in this country demagogue the issue. Anyone who uses Medicare will tell you it works great. My alternative to Ryan's budget both raises taxes and makes cuts. But not to Medicare. Ryan turns Medicare into an insufficient voucher plan thereby making it worthless. Seniors will never be able to get affordable healthcare with it due to their advanced years and high risk.

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      JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      ''it just is not funded fully'' Where does the funding come from if it is underfunded? Is that why the Senate and Obama can't come up with a budget? The Ryan budget plan doesn't change anything for those over 55, does it?The Senate refuses to debate and vote on the Ryan budget, meaning that the President will not get a chance to put his signature on a budget.It looks like your alternate plan don't mean too much, there's nothing to ''Alternative To Rep. Paul Ryan's "Path To Survival Of The Fittest" at this point in the discussion.

      The circus starts on Tues, the Rep convention,sun will be shinning and all the fans will attend.Don't miss the show.

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Yes Jon, just like Medicare. Because Medicare works. It just is not funded fully.

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      JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      '' My choice would be we gradually move to single payer and eliminate most of the administrative costs and profit for insurance companies.'' Like MEDICARE?

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, I have debated these issues with you for months. I do believe in change but not change for change's sake. I believe the new Affordable Healthcare Law will prove to be a positive change in the long run. I am not about to change my opinion just because you send me a bunch of cherry picked sites. They may not all be right wing but they are what you have picked and chosen. My choice would be we gradually move to single payer and eliminate most of the administrative costs and profit for insurance companies.

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      JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      ''I invite differences of opinion and I am open to having my mind change. The only permanence is change.'' YOUR BIO?

      ''These are not proof. They are assertions.'' The links are uncut and un doctered not as ABC, MSNBC and CBS has done lately on news stories.

      ''all of these right wing propaganda sites'' That's not a true statement.

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, Why do you still include all of these right wing propaganda sites for me to look at? These are not proof. They are assertions. Both sides can do this and I refuse to. I am not working for a political campaign so I will not resort to this nonsense. The Healthcare law will take effect in its main parts in 2014 and then we will see. The people who will have to pay the penalty for not having healthcare insurance Should have to pay it. They are currently free riders on our healthcare system. Finally I believe the Romney-Ryan ticket will destroy our middle class and eliminate our social safety net. They are bought and paid for by Corporate America. They will balance the budget by destroying us. The Obama Administration is far from perfect but I believe that he is doing his best to help us and not just the wealthy class.

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      JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      You and politicsnow have not shown me what I have contributed to your hub as being inaccurate.

      Hope and change is coming? Check out this Axelrod interview, more mumbo jumbo.

      Obama chief strategist David Axelrod

      Live and uncut, scare tactics?

      http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/2012...

      Paul Ryan on 'Hannity'

      http://video.foxnews.com/v/1797716109001/exclusive...

      vision for the future

      Firms Pass Up Tax Breaks, Citing Hassles, Complexity

      tax deductions too cumbersome, confusing, can cost more to obtain than they save

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100008723963904440...

      The President's Speech Distorts the Truth

      http://www.facebook.com/notes/paul-ryan/the-presid...

      The Truth on big oil earnings. The big government wants ‘’ fairness ‘’

      http://whoownsbigoil.org/a-note-on-oil-company-ear...

      Obamacare, Taxing jobs out of existence

      WHY are companies not hiring?

      http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51364

      Recession Possible if Impasse Persists, Budget Office Says

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/23/business/congres...

      economy could relapse into a recession

      Obamacare – Anatomy of Government Fraud

      http://lionsdenmedia.hubpages.com/hub/Obamacare-An

      New study shows ObamaCare increases deficit, knocking down president's vow

      CBO estimates that 4 million people will pay the penalty

      http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/07/07/

      The health-care law "includes the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years,

      IRS. The agency will have to hire thousands of workers to manage it, requiring significant budget increases .

      Hoping you didn't get upset with the information.

      Be nice,I still enjoy your writings.

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, I am fine, How are you? Healthcare costs have risen because the new law has not been fully implemented. The statewide exchange pools will start in 2014. In the meantime, the health insurance companies jack up rates while they can. If it were up to me, we would have single payer and eliminate these greedy companies.

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      JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      How are you, missed debating the issues.''Healthcare costs will drop when the plan is largely implemented in 2014'' WRONG again. with 14 plus million out of work, the insurance pool is sick. in other words, insurance costs goes up as it has in the last 10 years.

      It's still ALL about JOBS.

      2/24/09

      President Barack Obama – [ F ] Address to Joint Session of Congress

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, Healthcare costs will drop when the plan is largely implemented in 2014. Your beloved healthcare insurance companies are raking their customers over right now while they can. Waste in government is a small percentage of the entire budget. Keep up the GOP propaganda.

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      JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      ''Romney ticket will take us back to a time where people starved with no homes or healthcare'' What are you talking about, someone needs to report on the statement.

      ''The Obama Administration will continue to strengthen our economy and preserve our social safety net'' In 4 years, $5 trillion deficits, unemployment 14% ( a true number ), thousands on food stamps, realestate values down25%, record

      foreclosures, higher fuel prices and food prices.

      Health care cost rising and a dysfunctional Congress with a leader who is a constant campaigner since he took office. The game sounds like a fairyland. Obama says the middle class is doing ok, REALLY.

      The Senator Coburn report '' WASTE IN GOVERNMENT'' http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/rightnow...

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      Howard Schneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Mitt Romney has now selected Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate. The choice is now crystal clear for the November 2012 Presidential election. The Romney ticket will take us back to a time where people starved with no homes or healthcare. Social Darwinism on steroids. The Obama Administration will continue to strengthen our economy and preserve our social safety net.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      You are right PoliticsNOW. It was proper to bail them out to keep the whole economic system from completing collapsing. But they should not be hoarding cash now and not lending. I do not mean stupid junk loans but real loans for people and businesses with good credit. This is one of the things holding this economy back. That and the depressed housing market.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      If Capitalism was TRULY a "FAIR" and just form of economics OR SYSTEM IF YOU WILL. Then ALL who FAILED in 2008 should have GONE OUT OF BUSINESS...but no, we BAILED them out with the belief that they would prop us back up. Well that didn't happen did it? If you mismanage and run a business into the ground YOU deserve to HAVE THE DOORS CLOSED ON YOU. That's FAIR Capitalism. But thats not what happened. They GOT a FINANCIAL WELFARE check from the people who afterwards got thrown under the bus and then was TOLD "THATS FAIR". Sorry random RANT by PoliticsNOW!

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      I agree with you PoliticsNOW.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, ANY OTHER social program ARE NOT THE CAUSE OF THE DEFICIT OR THE ECONOMY! The Bush tax cuts and relentless moronic attacks on government REGULATION are the cause of the economy! This is somehting FDR realized after the Great Depression! Wall Street MUST BE RESTRAINED OR THE COUNTRY"S ECONOMY TANKS ALONG WITH THE WORLD"S! Message for Jon.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Politics Now, I KNOW! I have not heard a peep out of Joe Walsh since that came out. He used to be a fixture on the news shows.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      He was the leading tea idiot to. Always running his mouth on fox news. I don't hear from him so much now.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you PoliticsNOW. There is no end to these Tea Partiers' hypocrisy. That is the first I have heard about that guy. I trust his district is well informed regarding this. It reminds me of Rep. Joe Walsh in Illinois. He talks about Tea Party personal responsibility but he owes $170,000 in back child support. HYPOCRITE!

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Did you see this HSchneider

      http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/25/tea-party-...

      A Tea Party member in a Union collecting disability. The very things they are against.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Very well said PoliticsNOW. The almost non-existent regulations on financial services caused the housing speculation bubble that burst in 2008. Bank are rightfully regulated to carry enough capital to withstand reasonable losses. Lending is more regulated and should be though I do believe that has swung to a case of too much caution. Reasonable regulations are needed on an economy to prevent the pitfalls of greed. They do exist Jon. These regulations are also not what is holding this economy back.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      What regulations do you want gone Jon? Loose regulations caused the collapse in 2008.

      If you want to curb spending once again end the tax BREAKS. They were created in 04 to spur job growth and we LOST 8 MILLION jobs. THEY DON'T WORK JON. In times such as these the government is there to help out.

      Now Jon the GOP and the TP won't allow a jobs plan to succeed. MCconnell said their number one goal is to make Obama fail NOT JOBS! HE SAID it himself! You are rooting for a team that WANTS to throw the game. What don't you understand? It not the debt its the DEMAND and JOBS and REVENUE that has Wall ST. scared. WE HAVE a REVENUE PROBLEM TO.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, I agree we need to spend less and bring in more revenue. But that is not why our economy is in the doldrums. The housing market collapsed beginning in late 2007 sparking the financial meltdown of 2008. That is the cause of our economy still being down. Housing has not recovered so unemployment remains high. The budget deficit is a problem but NOT the cause of slow growing economy.

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      jon ewall 6 years ago

      HSchneider & company

      What is so hard to figure out why the economy is in the dumps. CONGRESS VOTES TO SPEND MONEY. Who has had control of the purse strings since 2007? Any business that spends more than it takes in ,GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, and the jobs go out away too.

      The exception to the rule is the US GOVERNMENT , FOR NOW.

      People not working (14 million ) are not paying federal taxes ( revenue ). People not working are not in the healthcare insurance pool, result is that those in the pool are being charged higher premiums.

      Simple solutions are that recent Obama regulations be revoked, Congress needs to stop spending more than they take into the treasury ( DEFICIT ). With a $16.5 trillion national debt, and the government losing the AAA credit rating, it won’t be easy.

      Anxiously waiting for President Obama’s job plan and the Senate‘s 2012 budget.

      The House of Representatives passed a 2012 budget in Feb. according to the rules of Congress

      note! the Obama administration has hired 200,000 new GOVERNMENT FEDREAL employees since taking office in 2009.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      You are right PoliticsNOW. All the Republicans in Congress will block any spending plan. Is the goal to balance the budget? Of course not. Ask Sen. McConnell. It is to defeat the President in 2012.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Don't worry jon Boehner won't allow a jobs plan. That would make things improve. They can't have that while Americans suffer. Don't you get it? They want slave Labor with NO healthcare kind of like someone else in history. He rhymes with shitler.LOL

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, You are an American citizen. Therefore it is not above your pay scale. You feel perfectly obliged to carp at government but not to offer solutions. That is ridiculous. It is easy to snipe and harder to think and create. No matter what the President offers, you will rail against it. That is what you do. That is totally unproductive.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago

      HSchneider

      ''They are meaningless because you offer no solutions or at least possible ideas''

      SOLUTIONS are above my PAY SCALE.

      Wishing U-ALL a pleasent and happy new day to look forward to in the near future.

      Waiting with anxioty for the OBAMA JOB PLAN!

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you for that PoliticsNOW.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      I will keep it short and simple jon. The dems did NOT have the 60 required to pass what they wanted. OK GET IT?

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, I am tired of your litany of cherry picked and questionable facts. You swoop down on my Hub and others and dump them like a cropduster. They are meaningless because you offer no solutions or at least possible ideas. I have stated that many times before and still you stick to dumping this white noise on my Hub daily. I do agree with your statement about Jeff Immelt. That appointment was a waste of time and for show. He is a big job exporter.

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      jon ewall 6 years ago

      PoliticsNOW

      ‘’Jon you are incorrect the dems did NOT have 60 in the Senate in 2009.’’

      I didn’t say the above. I said ‘’President Obama and a super MAJORITY Democrat controlled Congress ( both the House and Senate, 100% control) from Jan 2009 to Sept 2010 passed a $ 787 billion Stimulus Package bill’’

      YOU SAID ‘’I know this because my unemployment extensions were on the line and I was ALMOST done with school at the time‘’ Very interesting, you were COLLECTING unemployment, thanks to the taxpayers. Just wondering how many more are collecting unemployment and food stamps that shouldn’t be?

      ‘’Take off your Obama HATE’’ REALLY, I don’t hate anyone.

      HSchneider

      ‘’I was in the same situation Politics NOW’’, ‘’not assured that the unemployment benefits would be extended.’’ H S hoping your situation was honest?

      The link that you refused to open is of Senator Coburn speaking on the floor of the Senate .

      You said ‘’my next Hub had stimulus ideas to grow the economy but also offsetting them with CUTS. Your ideas simply drill the economy…. ‘’

      My replies are SIMPLE FACTS that are not PROPERGANDA as you imply. Washington is corrupt, has been for many years. In 2008 Candidate Obama pledged to rid Washington of the lobbyist and to have a transparent administration, promises broken.

      Obama on bus tour recently stopped in Atkinson, Illinois and asked the audience to tell him what the government needs to do to get people to hire, JOBS. Unanimously they replied new government regulations are killing the job market. President Obama said he will look into the matter only if the regulation doesn’t affect clean water and/or clean air. Sounds good for now!

      JOBS , news of the day

      President Obama appointed Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of General Electric, to be the chairman of his ‘’ JOB COUNCIL’’ not too long ago. General Electric just signed a joint venture agreement with the Chinese government to construct jet aircraft, a $2 billion deal for GE. The deal makes China a direct competitor of Boeing , a US manufacturer. GE recently closed their world headquarters of a medical x-ray company and moved it all to China (lost jobs and manufacturing ). GE recently close a company in upper New York and moved the jobs to China. GE received $ billions of stimulus money, made record profits, yet paid $ 0 taxes. No doubt about it, that the mainstream media reported the news.

      President Obama helps his friends and other big contributors to his campaign. That’s a fact.

      Have a good day , be nice and enjoy life

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Absolutely. The Republican party of that time would definitely have been the more progressive and liberal party. That was true right up through Teddy Roosevelt. I would have been a Republican for sure from 1860 through 1908 and maybe longer. I just read a biography of Henry Clay who was the leader of the Whigs in the early 1800's. They were a precursor of the Republican party. I am a big fan of Clay's and I would have been against the Democratic party of Andrew Jackson back then. It just shows you how times have changed.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      And Lincoln would be a progressive.LOL

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      We are glad to have you aboard. The Republican party has turned so far to the right that I do not understand how any working class people can vote with them. I have always been a center left Democrat but I used to respect the moderate Republican views. Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon would be liberal Republicans now.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Fighting for the Millions of unemployed is what turned me into the progressive I am today. I used to be a Republican. I will tweet this out for you. I have over 600 liberal followers.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      I was in the same situation PoliticsNOW. It was a nerve wracking time and not assured that the unemployment benefits would be extended.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Jon you are incorrect the dems did NOT have 60 in the Senate in 2009. The Democrats held 57 seats it takse 60 to pass a bill SO STOP LYING JON IT HELPS NO ONE! I know this because my unemployment extensions were on the line and I was almost done with school at the time. We had 57 and had to get the 2 Senators from Maine to jump the isle. Plus Sanders and an ind. Then Senator Byrd died and they made millions wait while they replaced him. Please look it up. Since having a roof or not depended on it I watched closely.

      Take off your Obama HATE glasses Please Jon.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, You throw so many things out that conflict with each other. Don't you see the "Catch 22" you present. You hammer away with balancing the budget but also argue that putting people back to work will increase revenues. I agree that it will increase revenues but how do you advise doing this. Simply cutting spending will not increase jobs and it will probably hurt the economy in the short run. That will increase spending because unemployment is likely to rise. My plan in this Hub was to balance the budget and my next Hub had stimulus ideas to grow the economy but also offsetting them with cuts. Your ideas simply drill the economy more into the ground. What would you do budget wise besides bashing President Obama?

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago

      HSchneider

      ‘’The President has no power in the Congress.’’ WHO do you think tells ( orders ) Senator Reid and Pelosi what to do. Remember all the secret meetings behind closed doors ?

      The whole truth is not propaganda as you believe. President Obama appeared Sunday on a news program. Much of what he said was not what he has done in the past and present. There is a big difference between the whole truth and a ½ truth, apparently some have trouble finding out the difference.

      ‘’More employed people means more money being spent. I argue for these incentives but only by making cuts or raising revenues elsewhere’’

      1.employed people paying taxes is REVENUE

      2.more money being spent MEANS someone has a JOB

      3.these incentives ARE WHAT YOU MEAN makes the economy grow.

      4.only by making cuts or raising revenues elsewhere’’ that is the PAY-GO LAW, the Congress has passed it and the President has signed it into law.

      President Obama will be presenting his job plan in Sept. Just wondering if he will remember to follow the PAY-GO law. Will it be the same old stuff, propaganda?

      HAVE A GOOD DAY

      PS your budget plan is dead on arrival unless President Obama gives a ok

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you American Romance. I cannot believe you are giving me that compliment but I do appreciate it. I knew we would disagree about taxes. I truly wish the Bush Tax Cuts would be allowed to expire. Almost half the deficit would be solved and we could concentrate more on spending cuts. I am sure we disagree on that but that is my opinion on that. I think you might like some parts of another Hub I wrote which is sort of a sequel to this one. It is called "Are We Able To Grow The American Economy While Also Balancing The Budget". I have some ideas about giving business temporary Jobs Credits, Capital Gains Tax lowering, and other incentives for business to invest and hire now. We need to get that huge pile of cash off the sidelines and circulating in the economy now. People need to get back to work. That helps business owners and corporate executives also. More employed peoplemeans more money being spent. I argue for these incentives but only by making cuts or raising revenues elsewhere. I wrote it from the viewpoint of balancing the budget first and then stimulating with offsetting cuts.

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      American Romance 6 years ago from America

      HSchneider, You really have some great ideas in this hub, .....can't believe I'm telling YOU this! LOL!

      I would only argue taxes, We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world! Enough, Families of 4 have to have both parents working to make ends meet! Enough! When my government stops spending 2.5 million dollars teaching prostitutes in china how to drink responsibly! And agrees to allow IBM to install programs that will save our country Billions and for FREE! ( I will never know what or why this wasn't done) and Billions and Billions in waste and fraud,..........whew!....then I might consider paying more in tax!......Not till then!

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, Save your videos and links. I am not checking out your propaganda machine. The President has no power in the Congress. Sen. McConnell will wield his filibuster crap at anything that the President proposes. He has said and still maintains that his goal is the President's defeat in 2012. McConnell is pro-Republican and anti-American. The stimulus was needed in 2009 and should have been bigger but with less pork. The 2009 stimulus stopped us from falling further. We need spending cuts eliminating fraud, waste, and duplication. I agree. But we also need smart stimulus to fuel future industries, education, and infrastructure. So please stop with the links that simply provide your propaganda for cutting spending. I want nuanced change to spur growth not machete like mindless cutting.

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      jon ewall 6 years ago

      PoliticsNOW /HSchneider

      President Obama and a super majority Democrat controlled Congress ( both the House and Senate, 100% control) from Jan 2009 to Sept 2010 passed a $ 787 billion Stimulus Package bill which has ballooned to $1 trillion today.

      Today unemployment is 9.1% and the economy is not getting better.

      So, tell the people the truth, because the President don’t tell the truth, where are the jobs that Obama promised in 2008,2009,2010 and 2011.

      All that he reports, time and again, ‘’ I have a job plan. Everything that he proposes increases the size of government, and help to save public sector jobs. The PUBLIC sector jobs are paid for by the private sector taxpayers. Lack of people working in the private sector means that there is a shortage of revenue to feed the monster ( ALL government ).

      As simple it is to those who understand how the system and economy works, more taxes on the people working and businesses don’t help the job market in a recession.

      HSchneider

      So the next time you hear President Obama say ‘’Congress is the problem ‘’why he can’t get his way , understand that he should be saying that the Senate isn’t doing the job. The Democrats have had 100% and 2/3’s control of our government since 2007 up to today. SPENDING AND GOVERNMENT WASTE IS THE MAIN PROBLEM!

      DEFICIT WASTE IN the US GOVERNMENT see video

      Back in the black, the SOLUTION

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVJ2gqqKWs

      Waiting with anxiety for the same old message.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Unfortunately you are absolutely correct, PoliticsNOW. We must fight against this cynicism and continue to advocate for our issues and our candidates. Otherwise groups that are motivated like the Tea Party will have the upper hand. That happened in 2010 and we cannot allow that to happen again in 2012.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Anyone who follows politics long enough develops a certain immunity towards cynicism. It becomes hard to be shocked or disappointed by the too often self-serving and hypocritical actions of our elected officials.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you HTodd.

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      htodd 6 years ago from United States

      Great post..Thanks

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      PoliticsNOW, You are right. The wealthy are sitting on this cash and not investing it. The Bush Tax Cuts ultimately destroyed this economy and created then exploded the deficit.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      PoliticsNOW, You are right. The GOP was holding a lot of important legislation hostage.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, I want the wealth gap between the wealthy and the working class to stop growing exponentially. One major way to do this is to end the Bush Tax Cuts. They benefited the rich in a much, much greater fashion and the result is they are sitting on cash and hoarding it. Trickle down economics does not work. I want our social programs preserved and not destroyed as under Ryan's plan. The best way to do these things is through raising revenues.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      The Bush tax cuts have been in place for 10 years and HOW MANY JOBS did they create JON? NEGATIVE 8 MILLION! We spend 3 TRILLION of the taxpayer money and give it to the rich for WHAT? I see JON you are ok with spending to give it to the rich only typical RW NON-SENSE! This is why we can't take you seriously.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Obama agreeded to the Bush tax cuts because RIGHT was willing to SCREW everyone if the rich did not get more tax breaks they don't need. STOP BLAMING OBAMA FOR YOUR SIDES POLICIES. That LIE DOES NOT WORK!

      I am sure you know Jon Obama only had to SPEND because of BUSH screwed us all and now they want another texan NO, READ MY LIPS NO NEW TEXANS!

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      MY FRIEND, without a doubt you are a intelligent gentleman of whom I respect. The renewal of the Bush tax cuts was agreed to by President Obama and (note )the majority Democrat controlled Congress ( the House and the Senate )in the 2010 lame duck session.

      Both sides have understood that increasing taxes in a recession is taboo. Think about it, business gets higher taxed so where does the money come from for companies to make more money. you're right, it all comes from the guy on the bottom. With 14 million guys on the bottom, without a job have more money to pay for higher prices. If a company makes no profit, where does the money come from to hire more people and/or invest in equipment ( buying equipment puts people to work ).

      So, tell me in these troubled times would you prefer that the government takes more money (revenue ) or is it better for the money to remain in the private sector. The private sector that we know does create jobs. When companies make profit, that is good for everyone including the government (tax revenue to the people).

      In 2008 candidate Obama pledged if elected he would turn the economy around and have a plan to produce jobs.

      Almost 3 years into his term, he NOW will produce a job plan, what was the Stimulus Package all about?

      That's your prerogative to follow or support him, there is an old saying,'' you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time ''.

      ‘’Then our projected deficit would have been much less.’’ NO, NOT REALLY

      The deficit problems are government spending too much in the wrong places. The waste in the Stimulus spending is in the billions. The moratorium on oil drilling has cost the gulf cities millions and 100,000 jobs. Twice a federal judge ruled that the moratorium was unconstitutional. Obama and the government was held in contempt of court. The name of the game is JOBS AND REVENUE.

      ANXIOUSLY AWAITING HIS PLAN IN SEPT.

      Maybe the Senate will have a 2012 budget to go with his plan? Fiscal year 2012 begins Oct. 1,2011.

      THE CBO ESTIMATES that the 2011 deficit will be $1.4 trillion .ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, the people deserve better than what he is serving in these troubled times. AMEN

      Excuse me for the long reply.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, Yes unemployment has caused a revenue problem. We agree. That is why he will come out with a Jobs plan in September. Yes, it will cost money. I wish he would have allowed the Bush tax cuts to expire at the end of 2010. Then our projected deficit would have been much less.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago

      HSchneider

      ‘’We have a revenue problem’’--’’-the major problem is revenues’’

      ’’

      Yes the government has a problem , maybe if the people were working ( 9.1% unemployment ),the treasury would get what Obama is preaching about ( REVENUE ). Obama has yet to mention reducing government and waste in government agencies doing duplicate work.

      On Sat. Aug 19,2011, Obama remarked that he has 6 months of bad luck. One could believe that the terrorist ( tea party members of Congress ) were a part of his problems for the last 8 months.

      Obama will submit a plan shortly .

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you PoliticsNOW. I have been preaching that for awhile. You are absolutely right. We have a revenue problem. There are spending cuts to be made but the major problem is revenues.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      One of the biggest republican lies they have sold to their votes is if you cut spending somehow jobs will be created. If Jon wants them to stop spending start with the Bush Tax cuts and oil subsidies. We have a Revenue problem. In times of economic hardships the government is there to help. That is what worked in the past. War and spending cuts won't help AT ALL.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      PoliticsNow, Jon wants them to filibuster and block everything. That way no additional spending is passed. His only issue is balancing the budget, come Hell or high water. The effects on the people of the United States do not matter to him. He will just trot out his meaningless and arbitrary statistics.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Plus JON the right has a record OVER 100 fillibusters in the ouse and Senate. Why would they BLOCK EVERYTHING? To make Obama FAIL. Obama can't wave a wand and create JOBS. Congress WRITES the checks. People just don't get it. The repukes and the teahags DON'T WANT JOBS!

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, The Republican party has been taken over by the Koch Brothers, Grover Norquist, and the Tea Party. They are the most radical Right major party of all time. The Democrats, especially President Obama, are capuitulating to spending cuts left and right. Are they radical because they want corporate tax breaks ended? If the budget is balanced immediately we will fall back into a deeper recession or worse. A long term plan to balance the budget over 10 years, like the one I proposed is proper, not immediate balancing. Your only issue is to balance the budget. You know no nuance. Are you for letting the Bush tax cuts to expire? I am. That will get us almost half way to balance. I ask this to see how serious you are about balancing the budget.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      ‘’The President needs to jumpstart this economy’’ NO, CONGRESS needs to work together and get the 2012 budget approved first.

      Same old story with the President on jobs, jobs were a campaign promise. If people are not working, the treasury don’t have the money coming in to run the government. There is no more people left to blame as to his incompetence and inexperience.

      One must understand what his intensions are to creating the destruction of the US Government.

      Check this out to get a better understanding of who they really are in the Democratic party. The Democratic party has been taken over by radical groups, said a retired Senator .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progres...

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you PoliticsNOW. We do need the deficit cut but we also need a Jobs Stimulus bill now.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      To hell with the debt we HAVE A JOBS CRISIS. All of a sudden the REPUKES care about debt. Yea right PATHETIC jon.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon,

      The President needs to jumpstart this economy because corporate America is sitting on a hoard of cash and not hiring. I do not care a hoot about your constant drumbeat about the balanced budget. You are a Johnny One-Note. I hope he takes many of my ideas to balance the budget and stimulate it at the same time. We must make moves to create jobs or spur companies to do so. Regardless the House will block everything because they simply want to block the President. Your incessant balance the budget mantra blocks out the needs of this country. You obviously have no compassion for the unemployed or this stuck in the mud economy.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      '' The President is not perfect but ''

      Only time will tell.

      President Obama announced that after Labor Day he will present his plan for a recovery.When his plan is submitted, will it conform to the pay-go laws that he signed in 2010?.

      2/13/10 2:04 PM EST

      President Barack Obama is hailing pay-as-you-go budget legislation he signed Friday night as one in a series of crucial steps needed to snap Washington out of a

      destructive pattern of overspending. “Now, Congress will have to pay for what it spends, just like everybody

      else,” Obama said in his radio and Internet address released Saturday morning. “After a decade of profligacy, the American people are tired of

      politicians who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when it comes to fiscal responsibility. It’s easy to get up in front of the cameras and rant against exploding deficits. What’s hard is actually getting deficits under

      control. But that’s what we must do

      President Barak Obama promised open and transparent government. Where is the 2011 BUDGET Mr. President. What is the hold up in next years spending budget?

      The PAYGO compels new spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit. Not to be confused with pay-as-you-go financing, which is when a government saves up money to fund a specific project. Under the PAYGO rules a new proposal must either be "budget neutral"

      or offset with savings derived from existing funds.[1] The goal of this is to require those in control of the budget to engage in the diligence of prioritizing expenses and exercising fiscal restraint. The interest on the national debt is $1 billion a day and rising. The unfunded liabilities of the country is $104 trillion.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      I find it PATHETIC the tea party cheers when we get a downgrade during a JOBS crisis and then asks Obama, where are the JOBS? Well baggers you have 100 idiots in the house so draft a jobs bill. We know you don't want that jon. If jobs are created then Obama will look good. You want to debate anymore? I have plenty to say.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      BLAH BLAH BLAH JON! Where are the JOBS by the HOUSE OWNED BY THE RIGHT? Stop with the distractions. Hate Obama all you want I don't care. You can't reason with the tea party BOTTOMLINE. I will be glad to purge the congress of you idiots in the future. You want money back ask BUSH for the TRILLIONS he spent on tax cuts while LOSING 8 MILLION JOBS! All the while going on VACATION for almost 500 days!

      CUT CRAP and BALANCE asks only the poor, old and sick to sacrifice while we BORROW money from CHINAand give it to the rich in the form of tax cuts. Stop pandering to the RICH Corporate SCUM!

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, You are an incessant Obama hater. Nothing will change your mind and I will not attempt to. The President is not perfect but he is trying. The Republicans are now a stone wall which he is up against. There is very little he can do to move this economy and I place the blame for that squarely on the corporate owned Tea Party faction of the GOP. They are the villains in this drama.

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      Politics NOW

      ''Truth seeker and I am tired of the lies from Washington.''

      Obama said today '' buy American''. The $1.1 million black bus that taxpayers paid for was made in Canada.

      Obama will raise $1 trillion for his 2012 presidential campaign. Friends of Obama, Warren Buffet says that millionaires, billionaires and the so-called rich should pay more taxes. Maybe Mr. buffet would help the people first by putting more people to work in his companies. Some politicians believe if your taxes are lower and you have a job, more money in your pocket is better than sending the money to Washington so that they can cover the costs of food stamps and ’’ a living wage ’’ unemployment checks.

      Do you think that Obama will reimburse the American taxpayer for the costs of his campaign use of air travel, security and hotel expenses for the past few months and future expenses?

      ‘’tired of the lies from Washington’’, there is only one person from Washington that is talking and telling half truths that resides in Washington that is seen daily in the news and on the tv news shows.

      Is it who I believe it must be ????

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      It depends on what candidate wins the Republican nomination. Mitt Romney will fudge the issue and be on both sides. He has honed that talent very well. Bachmann and Perry will probably embrace it because they will run hard right. Their political operatives will try to have them use a little nuance with the subject. Both are morons though so it will not work. You are right, if they do embrace it, President Obama will win easily. Thank you for your comments PoliticsNOW.

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      PoliticsNOW 6 years ago from New York

      Do you think whatever Republican that runs for Prez will embrace Ryans COUPON Plan? Knowing Ameicans do NOT want it and in NY we got back a very red district due to the Republican running endorsing Ryans plan. If they do, Obama will clean their clocks.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, The Cut, Cap, and Balance bill was a hastily placed together piece of legislation that had only one purpose. That was to attempt to force the President's hand while at the point of a gun. This proverbial gun is the debt limit ceiling. This piece of trash seeks to artificially perform what Congress should do themselves. That is to write a budget. It seeks to impose this Congress's will on all others that follow no matter what economic conditions exist. This is unacceptable and I praise the Senate for tabling it. The cuts are draconian as well as the cap. Future Congresses should have the flexibility to address the future through budgetary choices they wish to make. Not the choices that this reactionary group feels they should impose, in their infinite wisdom, on future legislatures. Is it not enough that the President is compromising far beyond what he wishes to at the hands of this blackmailing GOP House of representatives? The debt ceiling issue should not be tied the budget talks at all.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      Check out this hub

      President Barack Obama and The 112TH Congress

      Republican House approved a Cut ,Cap and Balance bill, on July,19,2011

      http://hubpages.com/t/2794d6

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      I am greatly fearful of where this country is heading with these debt ceiling negotiations. Both for the fact that the Tea party wing of the GOP want to take this economy over a cliff into a Depression, and also because I fear that only social programs will be cut unfairly without substantial revenue raisers which are needed.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      You are absolutely right Brages. The healthcare insurance companies will price thye elderly out of the market because they do not want them. A voucher will do them no good. Social Security works fine. They just need to raise the income threshold. It is not even close to running out of money anyhow. Private retirement accounts are subject to market whims. The elderly need steady security. Thanks for you excellent comments.

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      brages07 6 years ago from South Royalton, VT

      Great hub. I would just like to add that the Ryan Plan ignores the fact that Medicare came about because private insurance companies would not cover senior citizens. He also ignores the fact that many Baby Boomers will be particularly dependent on Social Security because they lost their retirement savings on Wall Street. Creating the private retirement accounts he proposes indicates a political tone deafness I can't even begin to comprehend.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, You are right. The truth will come out. We will see that the Obama Administration has been working hard behind the scenes to stop the GOP from driving this economy off the debt ceiling cliff.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      '' I resent that comment'' sorry but the truth will come out in time. Well, let's call it what it is '' INCOMPETENCE''.

      KEEP HUBBING AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Credence2, Both sides are working behind the scenes in the Biden group. I have been hearing the GOP giving in a little and I think they are talking about reforming the tax code. They don't have much time. I hope the Obama Administration sticks to their guns and include both revenue enhancement along with spending cuts. They must not cave on this. Republican support in the country is much weaker and they must stop acting like they and the Tea Party are political giants. They are not.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, I am not coming up with excuses. I resent that comment. I am telling you the facts on the ground with the Biden group. You cannot let go of your constant sniping at everyone in government. That is what sustains you. You offer no constructive solutions.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Your welcome LRC. The military complex needs to be put under control for the long term and all the special interests that sustain it must be kept at bay. This includes the defense contractors, Congressmen, and the military brass.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      Credence2

      BIG TROUBLE AHEAD.RYAN'S budget repeals OBAMACARE.Obama has already said that he will not sign a budget BILL that repeals his healthcare plan.

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      Credence2 6 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

      Jon, the GOP budget (Ryan Budget) is dead on arrival. A compromise must be worked out between the opposing sides. I suspect that the GOP is playing with this debt ceiling thing for political points. The president has made it clear that whatever is worked out WILL include revenue enhancement and that everything is on the table, no draconian cuts on entitlement and no sacred cows. When the GOP can recognise this maybe then we can seriously negotiate.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      Fay Paxton

      Oh, you finally woke up! ‘Your financial analysis is idiotic, at best. Revenues can't increase if people are UNEMPLOYED’’

      ‘’The Republicans have control of the purse strings, so a budget is their problem. ’’the DEMOCRATS can’t come up with a budget for 2012. The Republicans haven’t had control of the purse strings as of Jan 2007. THAT’S A FACT!

      CHECK IT OUT the approved healthcare bill is not deficit neutral, the CBO got the CORRECT #‘S NOW and revised their report!

      HSchneider

      With due respect, please stop making excuses for our politicians in Washington. The 2012 budget and the National Debt are priority and yet 2/3s of our government can’t come up with a budget. There is only 1 budget on the table now, it was rejected by the Senate, they are holding up the process. Obama’s budget was voted down by the Senate 97-0, are you aware of that? Obama has not yet submitted a revised budget. The budget he submitted had a $1.6 trillion deficit, Obama is asking to raise the national debt limits another $2.5 trillion. There is enough money coming in to service the national debt. The interest on the National Debt is $8 billion a day, insane to believe we want to raise the debt LIMITS.

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      LRCBlogger 6 years ago

      Thanks for clarifying regarding social security threshold. Regarding cuts to the defense/pentagon budget, I agree with you. I think some cuts could be made immediately but the larger and longer term savings is permanent cuts over a period of time. Again, really great hub.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      I have seen the movie "Dave". I appreciate the comparison and I also appreciate your calling my methodology centrist. Most of the politicians in this country would consider it to be at the very least Liberal if not downright Socialist. The Democrats in my country have allowed the conservative Republicans to hijack the narrative of the political dialogue in the U.S. and this is very sad to me. I feel my budget sensibly protects our social safety net while making common sense tax raises and budget cuts. I wish my country had more of the philosophy of taking care of their people that Canada does.

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      Phil Plasma 6 years ago from Montreal, Quebec

      Your hub reminded me of the movie 'Dave' - I don't know if you've seen it, but a stand in for the President does some quick budget work much like you've done here, both cases very impressive.

      Of course, being Canadian, your proposed changes would have no direct impact on me, however, your centrist methodology is refreshing and no doubt would appeal to a large percentage of Americans. Too bad it doesn't appeal to any of the people who are in a position to make the kind of decisions you propose.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you for your kind comments LRC. You are correct about the Social Security income threshold. You are only taxed for Social Security up to $106,800 of your income. After that you are not taxed at all for Social Security purposes. It makes sense to me to raise this threshold for both inflation purposes and for baby boomer retirement purposes. Also defense needs to be cut sharply and our troops need to be brought home. I wouldn't do it all at once but in stages. The savings will be enormous if that is done.

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      LRCBlogger 6 years ago

      Sorry I'm getting here so late. What a great hub! You put a lot of research and thought into this and I couldn't agree with you more. What a radical idea of looking at the largest 3 budget items first, ha ha. You could easily trim 10% from the defense budget, easily.

      We need to draw down the number of troops in Germany, Japan, etc. We also need to take a close look at the Barney Frank/Ron Paul proposed cuts to defense. Regarding your comment on social security threshold, can you explain that? I think you are saying that people only pay social security on their first 106k of income? So if I make $1mil, I only pay social security on 106k of my income and not the other 900k?

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Thank you Fay.

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      Fay Paxton 6 years ago

      Jon, I thought I was the only one unlucky enough to be constantly harassed by you. Obviously, your obsession knows no bounds.

      It is apparent Schneider does not mind having an exchange with you, nor do I. The problem is, you don't deal with the subject at hand. Besides, you analysis which constantly points to "the first time ever" does not take into account that this is "the first time ever" for many of the problems we face. Of course, we have had recessions and high unemployment before, but this is the first one complicated by global failures. We do not operate in a vacuum anymore.

      Your financial analysis is idiotic, at best. Revenues can't increase if people are unemployed and the government keeps giving tax cuts. In case you hadn't noticed, we are at war. The GDP was well over 100% during World War II and we are still here. Revenue would be generated by jobs...you know the ones the Republicans kept crowing about. Well, where are the jobs? Get a grip for crissakes. The Republicans have control of the purse strings, so a budget is their problem.

      Schneider has merely offered up a compilation of his budgetary ideas. You should write a hub about yours and cease with this madness. It's impolite.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, Vice President Biden is working with a bi-partisan team of legislators to come up with a budget compromise. The reason he is doing this is because the Far Rightwingnuts are threatening to not raise the debt limit which will cripple this country's economy. They now do not have the time to produce another budget the regular way. It must be done now behind the scenes or the GOP will blow everything up. What the Republicans are doing is a travesty? Now Jon, my Hub is not meant to be a critique of the budget process or what the Dems and the GOP are doing to get a budget. It is meant to be on my budget. Please write a Hub about your ideas that the President and the Dems are not producing a budget if that is how you feel. Please stop using my Hub as a forum for that. You obviously love to throw out mounds of statistics as if they were ideas. They are not. They are simply statistics and all sides have them. I want to deal in ideas on how to solve the problems. Thank you.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      Hschneider

      YOU HAVE A TERRIFIC PLAN. Send the plan to Senator Reid and President Obama, they need help to furnish a budget that can be debated with the Ryan budget that already has been voted down in the Senate.

      $750 million has been spent in Libya, a Brazilian oil company was given $2 billion and a permit to drill in the gulf, Egyptian rebels were given $ millions and $50 million was given to ????? to build a secret internet system with another $10 million more. The system is being used in Syria by revolutionaries.

      IN 2000 FEDERAL REVENUES EQUALED ALMOST 21%OF GDP. In 2009 revenues plunged to 15% of GDP. This year further down to 14.4% while spending soared to 25.3% of GDP.All of the above yielded the federal deficit of $1.6 trillion, the highest ever.

      Just a reminder, Congress approves the spending limits with the Presidents approval.

      Interesting that 2/3s of our government hasn’t yet submitted a 2012 budget.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, None of us has control over the budget when we are not in the federal government. We do have the ability to formulate our own ideas and convey them and advocate for them. That is what being an active citizen is all about. I put out a plan that raised taxes and made cuts. Your simple yelling at the politicians from the rafters without alternative ideas is not useful. My plan brings in more revenue and lessens expenditures and should balance the budget or at least come close. What do you feel about my plan and why? Beyond repeal everything, you have not explained. Would you raise taxes while making cuts? I do not know what you are for beyond throwing everyone out of government and ripping up the budget.

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      TPC, I know. I have put out a plan. I figured I would debate those who thought I was wrong and consider their ideas. Some want deeper cuts and less tax raises. I cannot argue with those who just say everything is wrong with no alternatives.

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      JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

      HSchneider

      I have no control over a budget that you, Congress or Obama proposes.The solutions are simple, don't spend more than the government takes in.DON'T RAISE THE NATIONAL DEBT LIMITS,there are sufficient funds coming into the treasury to pay the debtors.

      Nothing will work until the PRESIDENT AND THE SENATE DECIDE TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH.

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      TeaPartyCrasher 6 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

      H:

      They can't. Wht do you think all you hear from them is 'Repeal', never any ideas on what to 'replace' with.

      Of course, the corps haven't figured that out yet

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      Howard Schneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jon, What is your plan? You heckle all sides but I hear no ideas. My guess is that you would eliminate all social programs and allow the elderly and the poor to suffer. Of course, this is just a guess because you offer nothing but sniping. Also the past 2 years the Senate filibustered everything. The result was that all legislation got watered down by the GOP obstructionists. Finally the doctors and hospitals jack up the prices for everything so they are not getting slighted. They get paid plenty for Medicare. Please present me a plan instead of only complaining. Good or bad, I came up with a plan. Thank you.