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PROSECUTING POVERTY (Has America Gone Mad?)

Updated on August 30, 2013
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Threatened with Arrest for Feeding the Poor

Raleigh, North Carolina closed a "soup kitchen" at a church who has fed the hungry for six years with dedication and love. Loves Wins Ministries, headed by Rev. Hugh Hollowell passed out food on the weekends in the city to hundreds of hungry people. Recently, however, the workers were met by the police who told them they could not hand out the breakfast sandwiches to the 70 people waiting or the workers would be arrested. The police instructed these charity workers to get a permit and that the permit would cost $1,600 and likely it would not even be approved. Really?

In Columbia, South Carolina, there has been a hotline established for businesses to call in a homeless person's "presence". While Columbia has an open shelter on the outskirts of town, it's homeless population is six times that of what the shelter can house. Additionally, homeless people cannot leave the shelter and head downtown because if they do, they will find a police officer in their path that will make them go back to the shelter. How does that homeless person look for work then? Not all homeless people are lazy.

Miami, Tampa, Orlando and other cities have made it virtually illegal to be homeless as well. Three charitable workers were in fact arrested in Orlando for handing out food to the homeless. As many as 50 others in different incidences in Orlando have been arrested for feeding the hungry.

Other cities including Portland, Seattle and Detroit have followed suit. Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas, and New York City as well as some cities in California also have laws in place to prosecute the poor siting "quality of life" reasons and have closed soup kitchens nationwide.

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Who Is Homeless?

As many as 3.5 million people in the U.S. are homeless or have had to use a homeless shelter for domestic instability or other issues. 1.37 of these are children!!

Yes, some homeless people have health issues, mental issues, and are possibly permanently disabled and cannot work. For many, they can't get assistance or it takes a red-tape bureaucratic miracle to get approved for health insurance, disability or other assistance.

Let me give you an example here:

  • One person needs Cymbalta, an anti-depressant. It costs approximately $220.00 for 30 days of the lowest dose.
  • They also need Januvia, a time-released diabetic medicine. This is $289.00 for a 30 day supply of 50 mg tablets.
  • They also need generic Synthroid for a thyroid condition. This is $19.00 for .25 mcg of a month's supply. For these three medications alone,
  • The amount is over $500.00 per month. I selected these medications because they are common prescriptions.

Blood pressure medication is another good example. Very costly. The amount of $500 for medication per month is a good amount for an apartment in most areas of the country. Healthcare factors are a big contribution to many of today's homeless people.

U. S. Veterans, unfortunately, make up a large percent of our homeless population. I will address this more later.

Regardless of the reasons for homelessness, America's poor consist of children and people of middle class standing who recently lost their home to bank foreclosure because of the economy.

Preventing the poor from eating, arresting charity workers, closing soup kitchens and banning organizations who feed the poor is not acceptable.

Regardless of ethnicity, age, health conditions, or addiction, hungry people need fed.

Reasons for Homelessness

Description
Cause
Domestic instability
Escaping violence
Housing instability (economy)
Unemployement and cost of housing
Lack of education, illiteracy
Environment, either home, schooling or other
Health conditions
No affordable health care
Substance abuse
Lack of education and mental stability
Natural disasters
Hurricanes and other disasters FEMA has not helped
Lack of assistance to U. S. Veterans
No transitional programs for Veterans
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Solutions For Veterans

Transitional Rehabilitation.

After being a medical transcriptionist for 20 years, I developed health conditions that made the job impossible for me to continue. I went to my local vocational rehab office and asked for assistance. I thought if I could cross-train for something else, I would be able to continue in my field or a similar skill that would allow me to move around a little more than my transcription job.

I was denied assistance there and put in for disability and of course, I was denied that too. I wound up taking a job with much less pay (about $480 per month less).

I say all this, to say that people do have legitimate health issues. While I was not homeless, it could have been easy to become that way.

Likewise, our Veterans, in my opinion, do not have transitional rehabilitation. What does that mean? It means more can be done to help Veterans transit out of the military.

  • Recruiters lie. They are glorified headhunters and they have a quota to meet. They get you to join the service and make tank repairs seem like the greatest job in the world. So first and foremost, before one joins, they should ask themselves, "When I get out of the service, where will I be able to use this skill?"
  • The military needs to stop promoting alcohol by offering it at half the price civilians pay (and tax free).
  • The Veterans Administration needs to pay for disabilities acquired in service the very month Veterans are released - not YEARS later. Further, the Veterans Administration should be done away with entirely and the disabilities acquired while in service, should be part of the out-processing of military discharges so that no Veteran has a time of unemployment. The military has access to the health record and decisions should be made upon final review of the health record and the ribbon campaigns awarded.
  • One other option for military Veterans is the government making it worthwhile financially to stay in for the 20 year hitch and then be able to still obtain free medical without conversion to a non-affordable health coverage.

All of these things could be financed by the Federal Government ridding itself of the Veteran's Administration.

Loss of Dignity

In the Holocaust, Hitler's regime did a slow, torturous evacuation of the hope and health of the Jewish people, raping their joy and freedom. He literally wore them out until all hope was gone. He robbed them of their dignity until some literally went off the deep end.

Like the Trail of Tears, all hope was lost. Robbed of their culture, their homes, humanity, religious rights, and dignity, racism prevailed. They were enslaved by dictatorship, cruel and unusual and needed rescued and their dignity restored.

When one is homeless and displaced for a period of time, it would be reasonable to believe that they have lost hope - Hope they once had in humanity and hope for themselves.

Homeless people need the same kind of rescue. Their poverish state has diminished their dignity, wounded their pride and robbed them of their normal culture.

These people need understanding and assistance that leads them back to productive citizenship.

Help for the Homeless

Homeless people should have a "safe house". Not only should they be allowed, they should not be banned.

Safe houses should offer rehabilitation to get homeless people off the street and back into a productive society. I'm not talking about hand-outs, I'm talking about you do A, B & C, and we will help place recipients that achieved their goals into employment positions, working with local businesses and universities.

The following issues need addressed, not only to end homelessness, but to prevent it in the first place:

  • When joining the service, make sure you apply for a position that transfers to civilian life. i.e. medical field, administrative fields, bilingual skills, etc.
  • The military recruiter should help ROTC participants and other military applicants with risk of nonconversion fields such as explosives by helping them to convert the field in the civilian world - working on mines for example, and show how an extremely limited conversion field such as driving a tank may not produce civilian employment.
  • Illiteracy should be addressed in school and at home while the child is still in grade school. "Every child should pass" produces an illiterate adult. In addition, illiteracy programs in the homeless shelter should be part of a goal/achievement process.
  • FEMA needs to do a check and balance to ensure all natural disaster victims are actually helped.
  • Domestic violence programs should be in place in homeless shelters and violence shelters so that women and children (and men are abused too) are not left homeless and abandoned by empowering the victims to find gainful employment and safely relocate.
  • Efficient goals/achievement programs for drug addicts and alcoholics who want help should be offered in a way that is rewarded by temporary help. Structural programs should be put in place where the effectiveness is proven whether or not it is politically correct.
  • The Federal government should do whatever it takes to assist people in hard times to keep their homes and help Americans keep gainful employment with affordable healthcare.

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Objection Downtown!!

From what I have read, the biggest objection for homeless population in the prestigious business downtown sections of U. S. cities is public urination.

While no one wants to visualize that, address those who are in a desensitized homeless environment as indecent exposure (if port-a-johns are in place and they are not using them) and pollution. Don't arrest homeless individuals because they are homeless.

Mother Teresa ate and lodged with the poor, yet she is one of the most revered persons and recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize. Should we renounce her prize? How dare we arrest those who are serving others.

While I am not for enabling bad behavior of any kind, I do have compassion and there must be answers other than arresting those who are feeding the poor and those who are the poor.

Even for those who choose to live without a home should not be arrested. This is America. We once accused Native Americans of being savages and treated them as such because they weren't "civilized" the way the English colonies thought they should be. Because one lives in a tee pee, without electricity such as the Amish, or any other lifestyle is not for us to judge.

Does the issue of more than 3 million people in America homeless need addressed? Yes, it does, but arresting them is not the solution and kicking them while they are down is not the answer either. Visit a reservation. We've already kicked people while they were down and it isn't working. The crime is the contribution to the hopelessness of the people.

We are all perhaps, just one paycheck away from being homeless. It could happen to me and it could happen to you!

If we can prosecute people for their financial status, who will be next?

© 2013 T. Clifton

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      Robert Allen Johnson 3 years ago from Fort Wayne, IN

      Great, enlightening hub. Worth the read!

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Well done

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you for your support!

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you so much. I appreciate the support.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      That means a lot coming from a writer such as you. Thanks!

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      I know, I know. I kept trying to tell myself the whole time I was writing this - be objective - show both sides, but to me, it's just so cut and dried - there is not one ounce it me that says it's okay to prosecute poverty!

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      RodneyBlaec Rainey 3 years ago from Louisville, KY

      Outstanding! Thank you for sharing.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you Rod!

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      Genna East 3 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      Superb hub! The best of the day. :-)

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you so much Genna.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      in me.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      This hub just bothers me. I got two feet and jugs to fill with water --- It is now 96 f. So I can combat prosecution by filling those bottles and walking with my two feet to where my people stay. And because I am big an burly,, I can make them drink it. And will. Apathy and lack of empathy are what allow persecution and prosecution to happen. So no book no TV show. Just two feet. Perhaps I do not do it out of love and compassion. But I would not let a dog die in this heat either.

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      graceinus 3 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

      1969- America: Man steps foot on the moon.

      2013-America: Man arrested for being poor.

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      Rosemary Sadler 3 years ago from Hawkes Bay - NewZealand

      An enlightening hub, just incredibly unbelievable that man would treat his brother like this.

      I would be ashamed if such measures were in force here.

      Thank you for sharing this information.

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      someonewhoknows 3 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

      E - love - reversed - Evolve

      There is way too much apathy in the World isn't there!

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      Faith Reaper 3 years ago from southern USA

      Brilliant write and thank you for bringing awareness to such madness!!! I cannot believe this is happening right here in America! I have been on the streets in the city in which I work and ministering to the homeless, and so ... I am speechless

      Voted up ++ and sharing

      God bless you, Faith Reaper

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you Faith. I appreciate that.

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      PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ

      Most ignore the needy and the homeless. That is why the government can strongarm the small majority who actually want to help and care because there are not enough willing to step out of their self-absorbed lives. Unforunately, the majority have allowed the government to walk all over their constitutional rights. A great army of people armed with charity and compassion can overcome any prosecuting authority. Those who have made no effort are the ones at fault for this madness.

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      retief2000 3 years ago

      Is it possible that too many government programs to help the poor have actually done the opposite? If there is a vast and powerful government taking "my" money to take care of the poor, why aren't the poor taken care of? We do spend hundreds of billions to stave off poverty and yet poverty is still with us, Why? Is it there because it is a lack of money that causes poverty? How can that be when we spend so much, employ so many to end it and have done so for decades?

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      Eli Moore 3 years ago

      Wanna know the sickest thing about those $500/month medications?

      (1) Americans pay more taxes for healthcare per capita than countries with socialized medicine;

      (2) it costs pennies to manufacture those pills;

      (3) and in Belgium, for instance, those medications would cost about $7/month.

      Ah, the efficiencies of the "free market."

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      retief2000 Your posed issue is very valid. Truth here is pretty straightforward. I call it the disorganized syndrome. For you and me -- get a check put it in the bank and pay the rent/mortgage on time and that is normal. Imagine for a moment that that is just too difficult to do. It is for some. Add that to a proud man who will not take assistance --- until too late. And that to the PTSD who cannot stand walls and roofs. Now add in drug addicts and drunks. Then add in just plain lack of intelligence (it is harsh but there are people not smart enough to read no matter how hard we work at it)

      Well all the money in the world cannot fix those problems. People like you and me need to, by our two feet.

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      someonewhoknows 3 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

      If,there are laws against homelessness then you'd think there would be laws against taking away someones home such as would be the case where overdue property taxes are concerned.Does it make sense to kick people out of a home that's already paid for and getting assistance from the government - public assistance in order to help them keep their house should then want to kick them out of that very same house because of the inability to pay property taxes.It's like spending $50,000 to keep someone in jail who did something minor like smoking marijuana or even possession of small amounts.Idiotic!

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      retief2000 3 years ago

      Ericdierker, that is the most salient point of all. We ask our men and women to fight for us. They freely and willingly take on this responsibility on our behalf. Some return from combat whole and fit, both mentally and physically. All others we owe and owe BIG TIME. It is our obligation to them to serve them since they so frequently and valiantly have served us.

      The damaged veteran is the only person who has a claim to government help or, better yet, government facilitated help.

      Eli Moore, there has been no free market in health care or pharmaceuticals for decades. Where there is one prices do fall. One can fill many common prescriptions at Walmart for less the $10. Those "greedy" pharmaceutical companies, so burdened by stupid government regulations that go far beyond mere safety, often provide discounted and even free medications to the needy.

      Many of the medications you site as cheap in SOCIALIZED medicine countries are cheap because all the research and development has been paid for in the US or pharmaceuticals developed overseas are free -FREE - from the interference of the stupid government in this country.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I hate big Pharma. But I love the results and the fact that my country is the best at it in the world.

      Our battlefield deaths are less than in comparison to murder, and car wrecks per capita and cancer. Our battlefield medics are trusted and loved. Yet they see every trauma and must feel in some way every pain. That is a recipe for PTSD and homelessness. In fact they are the most injured of all units in our military.

      We owe two things -- treat these medics with respect and dignity,,,,, and carry on that tradition to our homeless battlegrounds and provide aid and dignity to all.

      Our homeless people are also heroes, for they survive.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      I can see you all care about the issues or you wouldn't comment. You bring up some great points too. And I appreciate it. I am not FOR the government doing EVERYTHING. Let's don't even talk about waste the Gov does. But I was trying to offer up suggestions for the homeless because I don't think they should be arrested and I don't think CHURCH members should be arrested who feed them!!!! I also have a big heart for the Troops. And I think the VA Administration is a waste, useless, and drag their feet when it comes to helping Veterans. I think that administration should be done away with entirely and the out-processing and mental and physical security and benefits should be placed on the military during out-processing. It doesn't come from my taxes for a church to feed the homeless either. These are the people who were banned and arrested. That's what I'm against. This topic isn't really about Gov waste but I can certainly see your point that it's one more Gov organization that would have to be funded somehow (then again think of the millions we would save if we did away with the VA administration!)

      Great conversation.

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      retief2000 3 years ago

      The major religions are charge the individual with the responsibility for charitable acts. Imagine how little room there would be for government if we all took those responsibilities to heart.

      Buffalogal - Thank you for your "no government is not required" position, I love it.

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      Jackie Lynnley 3 years ago from The Beautiful South

      We better not abuse an animal but we must let the poor starve unless we bribe the government (what that fee sounds like to me) and can and do kill the unborn. Wonder who's heading this show?

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      Eli Moore 3 years ago

      "Eli Moore, there has been no free market in health care or pharmaceuticals for decades. Where there is one prices do fall. One can fill many common prescriptions at Walmart for less the $10. Those "greedy" pharmaceutical companies, so burdened by stupid government regulations that go far beyond mere safety, often provide discounted and even free medications to the needy."

      Your argument really is just from another planet.

      How is it possible that the United States pays more per capita in taxes for healthcare yet receives no healthcare?

      The only difference is that the United States is the only country that doesn't have a completely socialized system. The only one.

      You argument about these companies being burdened by government regulation is also from another planet because business runs our government and they rely on government regulation and subsidizes or else they would collapse.

      The only government regulation they don't like is the regulation that tries to expose them to competition or force them to pay workers more or to respect people's rights or the environment that they dump external costs onto free of charge.

      P.S.,

      I put free market in quotations because it is a concept that doesn't exist, never existed. So I'm not even gonna try to argue about nonexistent things.

      The clear difference between the US and other countries is that we are privatized. Healthcare institutions should not be granted the legal charter to be pathological money makers.

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      retief2000 3 years ago

      Eli Moore,

      Thanks for not arguing by contradiction alone - from another planet

      "How is it possible that the United States pays more per capita in taxes for healthcare yet receives no healthcare?"

      Patently untrue, before Obamacare, 47 cents of every dollar spent on medical care in America came from taxpayer dollars. Ever hear of medicare and medicaid? We have had government directed healthcare for the aged and the poor since the 1960s and it is riddled with inefficiency, fraud and waste.

      "business runs our government"

      So entertaining, to paraphrase another great thinker - How many divisions does American business have? How many Justice Department lawyers, FBI agents, Customs officers or IRS agents can a business dispatch to a company like Gibson Guitar on a bogus raid?

      "Healthcare institutions should not be granted the legal charter to be pathological money makers."

      Why not? Making money is the point of a business, any business. Look at how efficiently and how inexpensively businesses deliver goods and services - regardless of how simple or how complex - reliably, everyday at the bottom price possible.

      Seems to me if you want healthcare delivered inexpensively, over the broadest possible service area and at the lowest possible price your better do it retail. I think Walmart should run hospitals.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Please. It's productive to leave general comments rather than point them at someone. Let's keep it nice but have a good conversation about such a compassionate subject as this.

      I realize our government does have waste and abuse. In fact, I reported someone who was "disabled" and on Medicare, selling drugs and needles illegally. So I am well aware of abuse.

      I also know not everyone who is hungry can work. As I said, I do not believe in enabling bad behavior as I believe in the Bible - which says a lazy person doesn't have the right to eat. I am all for random drug testing of welfare recipients for example, but there are people with serious health issues and working families going homeless because of this rotten economy. I want these people to be fed and if churches are doing their job (like Love Wins Ministries), the law should not be arresting them!

      I would encourage each of you to write a hub on healthcare issues that have constructive criticism because it is an important issue. For one, I don't think insurance companies should interfere with a doctor's decision but they do it all the time. But this isn't really about healthcare for me as much as it the right to feed the homeless.

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      Eli Moore 3 years ago

      retief2000,

      You are living in another world.

      Your logic: more government = higher costs and lesser efficiency is in contradiction with objective reality.

      Here is a little taste of objective reality: New York Times: Man in 2013 was told he'd have to pay $65,000 for a hip replacement in the US. He went outside Brussels to a PRIVATE hospital in a country where THE GOVERNMENT pays for people's healthcare and got charged only ... $13,660.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/health/for-medic...

      Explain that? Belgium = more government but private hospital where government pays costs about 5 TIMES LESS than in America.

      How is that possible?

      "Belgium's healthcare system is rated by Expatica.com, a UK expatriates web site, as having one of the best healthcare systems in Europe." --- The Guardian

      Could it be, could it be that Belgium has non-profit hospitals? Cause they do.

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      Eli Moore 3 years ago

      New York Times: "Belgium pays for health care through a mandatory national insurance plan, which requires contributions from employers and workers and pays for 80 percent of each treatment. Except for the poor, patients are generally responsible for the remaining 20 percent of charges, and many get private insurance to cover that portion."

      Can't be true, right?

      Yea, corporations do not have to operate the way they do in the United States. They are chartered to do what they do. They are granted the state sponsorship to be inefficient and pathological.

      Free market is a lie. Free market is a propaganda concept to get you to worship at the alter of institutions that would otherwise be hated and despised.

      Free market is as real as the divine right for feudal lords to rule serfs. That system used to be the law of the universe to some people.

      Every illegitimate institution has some ideology that they tell other people to have them believe their dominance is a law of physics and morally upright.

      Snap out of it. US healthcare system is terrible because we still have an 19th-century, for-profit corporate system.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      That is just what I want --- an impoverished Doctor operating on my son. Nope. How wonderful where the best and brightest flee the country. That point is so silly. Communism fell down and raised it's hand to freedom. Belgium is not as large as Arizona. What folly.

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      Eli Moore 3 years ago

      Ericdierker,

      An impoverished doctor in Belgium? Please tell me you're joking.

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      Arthur Bundy 3 years ago from Colorado Springs

      The issue is Social Darwinism.

      We are stuck with a Corporate America oriented society, that can't decide how to deal with "TOO BIG TO FAIL", because it's too busy trying to prove that homelessness and poverty are just aspects of the "survival of the fittest" mentality. The fittest in this case is greed for the sake of greed, and you people don't have to like it, because greed is vogue.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Unfortunately, greed is "vogue" and no I don't have to like it. I like who I am when my head hits the pillow at night though.

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      Arthur Bundy 3 years ago from Colorado Springs

      You are one cool customer.

      I ended up in prison before I learned what the true measure of accountability really is. I did it the hard way, but I too can rest at night knowing my conscience is clear.

      Thank you for your candor.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      We were talking about greed, Sir, not accountability.

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      Jeannie InABottle 3 years ago from Baltimore, MD

      I personally think people feel uncomfortable with homeless people around because it reminds them that it could be them on the streets one day. I agree more help should be given not to just homeless people, but everyone when it comes to medical care. No one can afford medications now because they are ridiculously overpriced. In the US, we are all about a profit even when it comes to healthcare, rather than actually helping anyone. It is sad.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Update from Southern California. By best reckoning we only lost maybe 2 souls to the heat wave. Can't know for sure. But we have some clouds again this morning. Our/my people homeless withstood the heat again. Heat and cold prosecute, only man can intervene.

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      Audrey Howitt 3 years ago from California

      Yup--we do it in California now too--your article is such a well written one--Passing it along so that others can find it and read it--

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      ignugent17 3 years ago

      I do hope someday life will be much better. Thanks for showing your readers the real things happening in this world.

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      Jaye Denman 3 years ago from Deep South, USA

      This is a superb hub, BG, well-written and factual. I have to answer the question in your title (Has America gone mad?) with a resounding YES! At least, those in power who could do something to change these horrendous circumstances for the better...rather than make them worse...have either gone mad or are just plain cruel and uncaring!

      It is shameful that a country the size of the USA and with its resources should have more than three million homeless people, yet send billions of dollars in aid to foreign countries instead of caring for our own citizens in desperate need. Every U.S. resident who believes this is wrong should communicate that fact--loudly and strongly--to government officials, from your local municipality all the way to Congress and the White House. Because, if we don't speak up for them...who will?

      I also think you should try to get this article published in a national publication so more people would read it...or go on one of the big talk shows. The facts (and potential solutions) you've described in this hub need a very broad audience.

      Voted Up++++ and shared

      (and if an Humanitarian Award existed on HP, I would vote for you to receive it.)

      Bless you,

      Jaye

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      M Ziel 3 years ago from San Francisco

      That is so true. They have done the same thing around Phoenix and elsewhere. There is nowhere for them to go sometimes. It just makes things worse.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you for the support Jeannie. It means a lot to me.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you for your kindness to me and to others.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you so much for passing this on and for your support.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you Ignugent17! Very appreciated!

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      I am so touched by your thoughtfulness and the time you took to show your support. A terrible tragedy happened in my family today and I have cried for five hours. So when I finally calmed down, feeling pretty low, I came on here and found your post. I don't deserve it from any of you, but I so appreciate your kindness and support. Like I said, if I could just help one person see how wrong this is, writing this hub was worth it. It took me about two hours and it came from the heart. I have had about 37 family members in the Armed Forces. Love my Vets. Hurt for the ones who are hurting even if they aren't in my bloodline. Thanks again.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thanks for your support!

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      Indian Chef 3 years ago from New Delhi India

      I see how costly medicines are in USA. I have a friend who does send medicines to some of his friends because they are cheap here in India as compared to USA. But yes they do not have insurance so they order from India .. generic ones. I do not know why same companies sell at so high cost in USA than say in India.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Indian Chef: That is a great comment and would make a good hub. I have so many questions about it. Is it legal? How does one go about doing that? Is there a language barrier to get prescriptions filled? Thanks for your input.

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      Howard Schneider 3 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Great Hub, BuffaloGal. It is horrendous and heartless to prosecute the homeless. The localities who do so are attacking symptoms of economic duress and not the underlying problems. They also simply care to cater to their corporate benefactors and rid them of this perceived nuisance. We need to fully expose these political leaders to the public. I am glad that you are doing so.

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      someonewhoknows 3 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

      Is,the world crazy? Or, is,it, illogical to have "able bodied" individuals in need do volunteer work of some kind in exchange for another kind of help. Perhaps working in a community garden that produce fruits and veggies for other people in need of food in the community.If,there were no money people would have to do that anyway. Also that would instill a responsible attitude in everyone.Especially young children and teens.

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      Mel Carriere 3 years ago from San Diego California

      Most of the people persecuting the homeless would profess to be Christians, I would imagine, and the great majority of these self-righteous, homeless hating folks go to church regularly on Sunday and profess to believe the gospel that commands them to feed the poor. Hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. Great hub!

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      maggs224 3 years ago from Sunny Spain

      In answer to the question posed by your title, I think I would have to say no, I think that they know exactly what they are doing and they are achieving what they have set out to achieve, and that is to demonise the poor.

      The top 1% of Americans own 40% of the nations wealth while the bottom 80% of Americans own just 7%. That means that the top 20% have 93% of the nations wealth, there has to be something wrong here.

      It is immoral that the poor should be treated the way you laid out in your Hub, and I think that your analogy with Hitler's treatment of the Jews, to that of how America is treating its poor, is a valid one.

      Hitler, too demonised the Jews before he committed the atrocities that he did.

      From my reading online it seems ordinary working class people that have held down jobs all their working lives, and because of a financial crisis, not of their making, have lost jobs and homes, are being treated as the problem, when they are victims of the greed of the rich and powerful.

      There has not been one prosecution of any of the Wall Street top dogs or the Bankers, that made money hand over fist, at what eventually resulted in the crisis, but hundreds of arrest of ordinary people who dared to protest against unjust treatment at the hands of these rich institutions.

      It is time that the 80% started to realise that if something doesn't change soon, and if you stand idly by and watch it happen to others and say nothing, when it happens to you, others will stand by and say nothing then too.

      If you work for a living you are only a few pay check or an illness away from the same thing as many of those who have found themselves homeless.

      An excellent Hub voting up and hitting buttons as I go :D

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you very much for your support Maggs224. I appreciate your comment.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      I do not agree with your slaying Christians. For one, I am a Christian and two, if you read the whole article, you will find a church in NC was threatened with arrest when they were attempting to feed 70 homeless people with breakfast sandwiches. Also, because some Christians may be hypocrites, I do not agree with lumping all Christians in that basket. Christianity is a growth process and this article was not about badmouth Christians. Thank you for your comment.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you HS. I agree with you entirely.

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      Mel Carriere 3 years ago from San Diego California

      I never said all Christians are hypocrites. What I meant to say is that there are a lot of Christians whose religion is only skin deep and they forget the message of the Gospel. I believe Christ had the same problem with the Pharisees, and there are plenty of Pharisees still around today. Sorry if you misinterpreted my comment but I'm a believer myself.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you for clarifying that Mel. I appreciate that. Perhaps I did misinterpret. I just got back from out of town, was in the heat all weekend and I'm pretty exhausted. Not that it's an excuse. I'll go back and read again now that my mind is clearing. You did say "most" and so I apologize. I thought you were lumping all of us together. I wouldn't have written the article if I wasn't passionate about helping. Thank you for your comment and your clarification.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mel Carriere --- Stand tall and be yourself. You cannot fall further than me for you will land on me. For I will be there waiting.

      Just rock on Be you and that is beautiful. Christ did not fall but you and I can, it is allowed. But that is just a stumble. Get up and get at it.

      Your message is good as are you. We must chase down and be bold against that which is not good.

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      Mel Carriere 3 years ago from San Diego California

      No problem. The vast majority of Christians are good people like you and like I said, I am a believer myself. But there are Pharisees in our midst and these get my blood boiling sometimes.

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      Mel Carriere 3 years ago from San Diego California

      Beautiful words. Thanks.

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      Ro 3 years ago from Midwest

      You have written a topic for a Hub that has been plaguing me of late; I have seen no less than 30 shared posts on Facebook recently, that disparages the so-called muchers of Public Aid. I have addressed each and every one of them. There doesn't seem to be an umbrage paid to the thousands in Corporate America who hide their profits outside of the U.S. -say, Cayman Islands in avoiding taxes. The same dollars that would have been used in funding our senior citizen, soldiers, low income,Special Needs, and middle class-programs. Some of these people are Democrats that are feeding the frenzy. They are not thinking clearly. Instead they are being led, by the very people that want the rich to be left alone, the corporations to enjoy tax rewards, and every institution to be privatized. The sad commentary of this whole dilemma? Most of these people are in the same middle class boat that is rapidly sinking.....

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      Kenneth C Agudo 3 years ago from Tiwi, Philippines

      very heart felt hub. Poor people are victims of there fate and the environment they live. This hub enlightened me.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you Ken and Irish.

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      Theophanes 3 years ago from New England

      What's next? Debters prison? You know... not so long ago we used to house the poor in cages or in large groups doing useless work like breaking big rocks into smaller rocks. Punishment for having the audacity to not be born with money.

      Those who live in a financial security bubble don't like to be reminded there are impoverished out there - truly desperate people. It rains on their parade. Much better to sweep them under the carpet and pretend the problem doesn't' exist. Out of sight out of mind!

      Someday I hope we can live in a more compassionate society, one that decides treating humans like humans might actually be a good thing! We need a better system for caring for the mentally ill, not just in a medical sense but in a real world living sense. So many homeless are mentally ill to the point they cannot care for themselves financially in any way shape or form. Handing them disability checks makes us feel like we're doing something but it's not solving the problem - at all. These are the same people who are chronically homeless. I believe giving them permanent safe housing (perhaps even their own apartments!) would be a step in the right direction. I don't know if our society will ever come to this realization... but I still hope.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Dear Theo: Profoundly put. Thank you for your compassion.

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      kidscrafts 3 years ago from Ottawa, Canada

      Very powerful hub! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on that subject.

      Indeed, we need to give some hope to the homeless! How sad to prevent people to give food to the hungry. It's a well known fact that kids who didn't eat in the morning can't concentrate on their work; so it's the same thing for adults. We have to give them a chance to go back to being productive people in the society!

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Update from our drought tortured Southern California. The fire danger just got too high. The Gov. just had to go in the canyons and cut and thin out dried brush. The problem is that is where many homeless lived in their camps. Actually they are part of the fire danger. So they got rousted. Had to move into alleys and elsewhere. They were not targeted so to speak but the result is the same. Not all solutions are easy and one answer may cause many more questions.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Awh. I hate to hear that Eric. Is FEMA helping? Or anyone? Churches?

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      No because their displacement is not considered an issue. On my hikes I have noticed a slow return. But with the clearing they are now too exposed to feel safe there. I will bring two gallons of water today -- selfish really, perhaps the offering will let me ask some questions and learn more and even perhaps let them know that us normies do care.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      You are a personal hero to me! God bless you.

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      Sparklea 3 years ago from Upstate New York

      BuffaloGal1960:Voted up, useful and interesting! There is absolutely NO excuse to ignore a homeless person on the street. It is one of the saddest sights, and it breaks my heart. Thank you for a well researched and profound hub. You should send this to every newspaper in the country.

      It is outrageous what is going on in our country. Celebrities are making $350,000 an episode on television....some over $700,000 - and threatening not to return another season unless they get a raise! While the homeless starve and lose their dignity.

      Also congratulations on being chosen by Faith Reaper for the Hug series! You SO deserve it! God bless you real good. Sparklea :)

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you. I've heard that but I don't exactly what it is. :) I'm out of touch I guess. I should go on her profile and thank her!!! Right now!

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      Arthur Bundy 3 years ago from Colorado Springs

      I spoke sometime back about learning accountability. I didn't understand your response. I guess I see accountability as the cure for greed.

      I think this is a great hub. It speaks to the reality we now face in America. It speaks to the fact, that we live in a society where "TOO BIG TO FAIL", is not as important a crime as is poverty.

      There is no excuse to being poor. But, at the same time there no reason to worry if you help tank the economy, because you are just being competitive.

      We are talking about the paranoia associated with Socialism. Or, more to the point Social Darwinism. We are talking about "Survival of the Fittest". People who focus on wealth to the exclusion of all else, Corporate America.

      I speak a lot about Reagan Policies, and most people choose not to believe me. Where as your article is a case in point.

      The New Deal had done everything it was intended to do. It was designed to give average Americans a fighting chance against Corporate America, in the aftermath of the Great Depression. However, it took World War II to make it work, because, just as now, Corporate America wasn't going to do anything where they didn't see a profit. World War II changed all that. War is profit.

      The point is simple. Until Reaganomics came along Progressive ideology was in vogue. Feed the poor, house the poor, and cloth the poor.

      Today, we live is a social atmosphere of deception and deceit. The poor are their own worst enemy, while capitalists are our saviors. It does not matter that thanks to the repeal of New Deal policies, the poor are poorer and the rich are fewer. The math speaks for itself.

      Now what is vogue is reverse mortgages which are designed to make up for losses associated with retirements that were swept away by rules that New Deal policies were designed to avoid.

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      I worked under the Reagan administration at a branch of the Pentagon. It seems like we have really digressed ever since he left office but maybe some would say it's coincidence?

      I am in shock at the rate our Country is plummeting to no return. All I know is these Veterans do not deserve what's happening to them and children deserve to eat whether or not their parents are at fault.

      Still, I believe so many are just a paycheck away from homeless. What then? My heart just breaks and I have pondered what can I do to make a difference. I don't know the answer yet, but it will be interesting to see what happens when the current administration leaves and who comes on board. We need someone with gusto.

      Thank you for your comment. It seems you would be someone that I could ask a lot of questions to and learn a lot from.

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      Linda Crampton 3 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Thank you for creating this thought provoking hub about a very important topic. Homelessness is a problem where I live, too. It's a sad situation that needs a solution. Prosecution is definitely not the solution!

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      No, it certainly isn't AliciaC. It certainly isn't. Thanks for the support! :)

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      Arthur Bundy 3 years ago from Colorado Springs

      BuffaloGal1960:

      Thank you for your kindness. If it weren't for my Mom I would be one of the homeless, myself. And worse, as a sex offender, I would be registering 12 times a year.

      I throw newspaper 7 days a week. I don't get paid enough even to keep my truck on the road. It's called being an independent contractor, but what it really is, is 21st century slave labor.

      About 2 years ago I discovered that my right leg was actually shorter than my left leg. It got to the point that I could not walk. What it did was cause me so much pain that I thought my left hip was rotting out. But it was actually my muscles trying to correct the tilt.

      So, thankfully I don't need or want a new hip.

      However, the challenge has made it impossible for me to work physical labor. Something I could rely on when times were tough. I use to be able to work young people half my age under the table.

      In conjunction with spending 17 years in prison and giving myself a literary education, I learned the law. I had too.

      What I have learned is that Corporate America has been using the 14th Amendment to equate itself with the individual. The corporation as person or corporate personhood.

      In Mark Levin's new book "The Liberty Amendments". Chapter 5, “Two Amendments to Limit Federal Spending & Taxing”. My focus is on his amendment on “Taxing”. This language is the key phrase to intent of this entire book. If this phrase were to be adopted into the Constitution, the intent of the Constitution and self-government would be officially dead.

      "Section 1"..."Person" shall include natural and legal persons."

      "Legal persons" in this context clearly refers to the corporation as person or corporate personhood. It has been established under case law pursuant to an ambiguity in the 14th Amendment, where the word "person" is not clearly defined as to what is meant by the term.

      I believe, the most effective way to combat Corporate America is to take away the power they have engineered for themselves through case law. The most effective way to do that is to amend the language of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to include this or a similar phrase...

      "Person defined under the law is a biological thinking and breathing entity, period."

      What this little phrase would do is to force federal, state, and local governments to rewrite and rethink about one hundred and fifty years of corporate law. It makes the men who run these corporations and not the corporation itself, responsible for the acts perpetrated by these men. It would for all time, force case law and legislation to be refocused on the American People as the sole governing power of the United States of America, as was the intent by the founders.

      That's my best idea to help homelessness, to help all of us.

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      someonewhoknows 3 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

      A-greed - (pun intended)

      Unfortunately for real Individuals the U. S. Supreme court decided that Corporations have the same rights as a living persons as has been said here has been recently been contested and upheld in the U.S. Supreme court even though it's clearly been in our dictionaries long before that. Who decided to define a person as a corporation and corporation as a person? I'm sure it has something to do with the Income Tax. Because the U.S. Supreme courts have always said that the Income tax was unconstitutional based on a persons exchange of labor for wages.So,the way the government got around that was to declare that United States Citizens - those persons who came under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government - which originally only included Federal Employees would now include anyone outside the ten Square mile area set aside for Federal employees to include persons who used the Federally designated postal code or zip code without (zip code) ( ) and Spelled their names in all CAPS - designating them as CORPORATE entities which could be taxed.

      Look at the way your name is printed on your incoming mail and I'm sure you will notice much of it has your name in all caps.Especially government mail.

      There was a U.S. Supreme court case in 1938 that changed the law so that most citizens were declared U.S. CITIZENS and as such were subject to paying the income tax.

      American citizens and U.S. CITIZENS are not the same.

      In,fact there is a law that makes American citizens the enemy of the federal government.

      Of course if you don't pay social security taxes or medicaid medicare taxes then you won't get those benefits either.So, what can you do?

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      ocfireflies 3 years ago from North Carolina

      Greetings!

      I love your passion for helping others less fortunate. I did not know about the incident in Raleigh. Makes me very sad to come from a state with such a ridiculous law. Most recently, my state has passed other laws indicative of a less than caring government body.

      Congratulations on your Hug of the Day from Faith Reaper. How I and other HP folks are lucky to have ladies like you two-who have such grand hearts.

      Blessings to you,

      ocfireflies aka Kim

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Kim,

      Thank you for your confidence. I think Faith Reaper is quite the gal and doubt if I belong in her category. :)

      It is a subject dear to my heart and so I appreciate your support.

      I too lived in NC several years and I am disappointed that such a great state would cave to such examples as other states.

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      ahorseback 3 years ago

      Especially at this time of year, I often find myself shaking my head in disbelief at the inhumanity of our culture . This is Amrica not a third world county ! Awesome hub , a real eye opener !....Ed

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      Thank you Ed.

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      Sanxuary 3 years ago

      How about that TJ Perkins wanting to exclude the poor from voting? What drives me crazy is who do you think is responsible for poverty? I love when Capitalism invents Socialism and they claim its socialism. I have yet to meet a poor person who is a believer in Socialism, sure they exist somewhere. Just imagine if you heard a rich person that demanded that the rich pay their taxes and eliminate loop holes. Could you imagine supporting regulations that actually protected your monetary policy and actually gave it real value. Imagine hire wages and full time work being an incentive that got people above the cost of living as a stimulus to get the economy moving. Strange is that not the definition of capitalism? The poor are every where and they only like them if they are working for nothing. Where do they expect them to live exactly?

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      T. Clifton 3 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      I totally agree with you! Well said and thanks for the comment!

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      Sanxuary 2 years ago

      Its been a while but has not society always prosecuted the poor? Then it occurred to me why does anyone think that people like TJ Perkins are great? Did this man ever put a dime into your wallet not that it requires a dime to be great. If he and the rest of them never improved your life, who the hell are they?

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      Audrey Howitt 2 years ago from California

      Your hub touches me--and many others --and amen!

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      T. Clifton 2 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you Audrey. I appreciate it. I haven't written for some time now but I've been thinking about starting back and your encouragement means a lot to me.

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      T. Clifton 2 years ago from Buffalo, Missouri

      Thank you Audrey. I appreciate it. I haven't written for some time now but I've been thinking about starting back and your encouragement means a lot to me.

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