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Peggy Lynn Alt - Where Are You?

Updated on May 4, 2012
Peggy Alt - 1985
Peggy Alt - 1985 | Source

Missing Since March 2, 1985

I went to Northwest High School in the mid 1980s in House Springs, Missouri. It was not a great school. It was a school with too many kids, poor kids in particular. It was overrun with students and not enough teachers or administrators. In those days, teachers had a job to do and they did it. They didn't care about the back ground of the children and if you did come from an abusive home - they wouldn't even look at you. Abuse was not reported in those days and would not have been investigated very thoroughly. Drugs were everywhere and available anytime.

I went to school with a girl named Peggy Lynn Alt. She lived in High Ridge, Missouri. I always felt sorry for Peggy. She was quiet and there was a deep sadness about her. I assumed it was because her family was poor and everyone talked so badly about them. Everyone in a school of 2000 knew who the Alt family was. Small town talk is vicious. No one cared about the Alt kids or what might have been happening behind closed doors. Everyone just loved to talk about it.

Age Progression
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The Have's and The Have Nots

The town I grew up in had two classes of people. The Have's and The Have Nots. The "burnouts" and the "jocks."

Some people live in small towns because they are born there and they will never leave. Some people move to small towns because they are hiding from something. I moved there when I was ten when my mother remarried. I had no choice in the matter.

Most people spoke in loud whispers but nobody talked. It was always, "now this is between you, me and the fence post." You minded your own business. If someone knew abuse was going on in some child's household - it wasn't their business! No, no, no! One could only whisper about it - it was only right.

I left as soon as I turned 17 and never really looked back until my friend called me last week and said, "did you know Peggy went missing and has never been seen again since 1985?"

I felt terrible hearing that because Peggy and her siblings had a hard enough life. I looked into it and I am shocked by what I have found and I want to - need to - share it with everyone who will read this.

Peggy Lynn Alt has been missing since March 2, 1985. She would have turned 18 on March 4. One of her family members said that she ran away with her boyfriend to Kansas City. Other rumors were that she went to live with an Aunt of a Grandmother. The police and child protective services had removed a baby from this family because he had been scalded on his face. The neighbors who went to church and school - rode the bus with the Alt kids - they admit they heard the rumors of abuse but still, it wouldn't have been right to butt in!

In June, 2011 something must have happened to jump start the case. Her case was just added to the missing persons data banks. Detectives started questioning the neighbors, when they asked why the police had not investigated this further in 1985 - they said they had gotten a call and the family said Peggy had come back home. That was good enough.

In September and October of 2011 - dogs were brought in to search the old Alt home. There was digging in the yard. Still no one has said anything. The news hasn't even made a newspaper. It is all in the rumor mill. Meanwhile - no one knows what happened to Peggy. If no one else cares - I care. If by some small miracle she is off somewhere leaving the past behind her - I can respect that and I hope she is happy and realizes we lived in a screwed up place. The links I provided tell a very interesting tale about who was running our town - I don't have to talk about it, you can extrapolate.

I don't know if Peggy ran off with her boyfriend - I do not believe she had one. I hope that she is alive and well and escaped her situation. I hope she is reading this and knows that people did care about her and her siblings. No one knew what to do. I did not know how to help kids like that - I was just a kid myself. I am an adult now and I do know what to do. Educate and keep screaming until someone listens!

Peggy Lynn Alt was a person. She and her siblings were denied every single civil right they were born to have. Find Peggy Lynn Alt. She deserves to be counted and accounted for. She didn't ask to be born into that family - she was a victim of terrible circumstances as well as her siblings. They were fine kids and I hope they have found peace and happiness in their lives. Someone knows what happened to Peggy - and I have a feeling the guilt may be working on someone's conscience. Maybe it is time to start talking.

2/1/2012 UPDATE:

An officer with the department in Jefferson County contacted me today with regard to this case. He said this is an ongoing criminal investigation. We discussed the details that I have and he has nothing additional to add except the father is the person who originally reported Peggy missing.

If you have any information with regard to this case please contact the Jefferson County Police Department at 636-797-5515. They would appreciate any information you can pass along.

UPDATE: 5/3/2012

Peggy's sister has read this hub and left comments. The family has been actively searching for Peggy since the day she disappeared. They miss her and want her home more than anything - especially her sister.

The family is grateful that the case has been reopened and they want your help if you have any information. More details can not be revealed due to the fact that it is now an ongoing investigation. This article will continue to be updated until Peggy comes home.

You can help by sharing a link to her missing person profile or by contacting the Jefferson County Police Department with information. Peggy is out there somewhere and her family loves and needs her. If by chance you see this Peggy as your family did - they love you and want to know where you are. They have been frustrated and trying through any medium available to find you - they need you home!

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    Kelly Umphenour 3 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    No, there has been no new news in this case...I read the papers daily and never a word...I'm still hoping though that there will be a break. You know someone KNOWS where Peggy is...someone will tell someday. Secrets can't be kept forever and the longer time elapses the more I think Peggy is somewhere near her home and I bet she never left High Ridge.

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    BlueMonday 3 years ago

    Anything new on this case?

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    shewil58 3 years ago

    Any recent info on Peggy Lynn Alt?

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    Dawn Kistner 3 years ago

    Anything new? Her disappearance date & birthday are here now.Just praying they get some answers.

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    Kelly Umphenour 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    No it can't! I am so disappointed that no one has been more forth coming. Peggy must be somewhere!!

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    CICI07 4 years ago

    I actually have this lady's info and she works with my office... it would be a miracle my family lived right down the road from her family, we were friends with them and I am still in touch via facebook. I had seen a post from one of her sisters years ago I thought basically asking for anyone's help and if they saw Peggy. Maybe I will call her to see if she ever lived there.... can't hurt to ask right?

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    Kelly Umphenour 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi CIC107 - I swear I've seen someone who looks exactly like the photo too but I just can't place where I've seen her! I keep wondering about Peggy lately and hoped we would have more answers by now....I still have more flyers to send out too...I thought about her n Christmas and wished she could be home....

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    CICI07 4 years ago

    I know someone who looks like the age progression photo, I went to school at Northwest but moved away after Christmas my junior year.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Yeah zoey - I have just started mailing out flyers - after a failed attempt to make a lable list (I am so not good with excel) I resorted to hand addressing again. UGH! But I keep telling myself that at least it is something...I think about Peggy EVERY day at least once!

    Thanks...I keep holding out hope too!

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    zoeyanne 5 years ago

    Well it has been 3 weeks and nothing new has been add about Peggy Alt! It is such a shame! I pray that god is out there watching over her! Peggy if you are out there and reading this Hub Page please contact someone and let them know that you are ok!! There are good people out there who care about you and just want to know that you are safe!! There are some of us who are keeping or eyes and ears open!! Hopefully we will find you!!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Its news - they should! I'd do it for sure! Nothing hurts...and I don't know why the police are being so quiet it's not like they have a suspect or anything. It won't get solved if they just put it on the website you know? I am not certain they are doing everything they can? Hope is all we've got right now I guess:))

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    I have thought about going to the news media. I just don't know what I would be allowed to say. I might talk to the detective and see what he thought about me contacting them now... at this time in the case with it having been reopened for this long. I wonder if any of them would even pick up the story.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    HI Zoeyanne - yeah isn't that insane? 26 years - and one child missing that no one looked for. It is so bothersome. Someone knows where this girl is and I hope that somehow she is found. I have a special folder dedicated to Peggy - and I have been scratching out notes and plans to cover area with flyers too.

    Thanks so much for helping - just spread the word and keep your eyes open!

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    zoeyanne 5 years ago

    I remember hearing about this last summer! It is such a shame that nothing has been mentioned about this in 25-26 years! Has anyone tried to get intouch with the news media now? I know facebook is world wide but some people still don't have internet or facebook!

    I pray for her! I hope that if she is out there that she is in a good place, happy, and healthy! May god watch over and keep her safe!!!

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    summer is going great~! hope yours is as well.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Someone emailed me privately and thought that your dad was a police officer - which might help explain why the case wasn't investigated more thouroughly in the past.

    I have gotten lots of speculative emails and I have about 70,000 unopened emails right now! I can barely keep up with that so I was just fielding some of the questions. Talking about anything and everything may just lead to something so I thought it was just as well to keep posting them. I am trying to get through all of my email but it is really hard for me to juggle right now with my kids home for the summer:)

    Hope yours is going well so far!

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    No, my father was not a policeman. Yes Peggy and I had the same father. I do still talk to my parents...probably not as much as I should, but I do. Why the interest in police officers? What is that you want to know?

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hmmmm ok then was anyone in your family a police officer? Maybe your biological father? Someone emailed saying they thought your step dad was...did you and Peggy have the same father?

    Do you still talk with your parents? You don't have to answer that - I realize it can be construed as rude to ask but nothing ventured nothing gained. Have you heard anything new?

    I have about 70 envelopes addressed...I'm sending them out bulk so I can get a discount on the postage:) lol. My kids are helping me...this weekend has been short with holiday stuff and what now but I expect to mail out the first batch next week!! Ill update here on the day I take them to the post office:). Hope your weekend is great!!

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    I don't have a step-father.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    I was just wondering, did your biological father report Peggy missing or your stepfather?

    I also do think your step-daddy was a cop. I think that is why there was no investigation. I know you probably can not comment and I do respect that - I am just saying for speculation about why things worked out how they did.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    You're very welcome Peggysister - help for you has been a LONG time in coming. I am so glad to be able to try to help and not just talk:).

    I hope you're having a nice beginning of your summer this year...it is going to be super hot and miserable around here before too long.

    Keep your chin up - maybe we will get a break before too long or some helpful information:)

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    realhousewife: thanks

    peggysister

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    I picked the flyers up today - I got 500 of them to start with. I used the poster from The Exploited and Missing Children's website because it had the age progressed photo as well. I also added a note for more information - and a link to this article. I think that it is an awesome advantage to have a place where someone who just might see this can leave us a comment or more info.

    I will begin mailing these out to all the police departments locally, starting with Jefferson County and fanning in an outward radius. I am also going to leave them in stores, post office's or anywhere that allows you to pin up a poster.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Also Peggysister - what about the name Barbara Seeley - does that mean anything to you? Maybe your older siblings will remember her? She was involved in this case too wasn't she?

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Oh Cindy no big deal at all! Hey at least you are trying to help! I simply am confused about where they lived. I know I went to North Jeff with some of the kids too though. It's been a really long time since I've been out that way, it's totally grown up! I fist moved out to Fenton in 1978....there was NOTHING out there! Highway 30 was a forest then. The National grocery store - Kmart - the gas stations - nothing back then. Miles and miles of trees!!

    I sincerely appreciate your help - so even if we have to speculate and guess until we get it right - at least we are trying!

    Have a terrific weekend:)

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    Cindy Smith Leach 5 years ago

    That was my mistake on Hunning Road. My husband grew up on Hunning and he thought you all lived for a couple of years when he was little :) Sorry about that.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hey Peggysister - sorry I have been so busy this week with family business. The school year ending...I am going to have those flyers made up this weekend.

    I have had some questions for you if you can answer them:

    1) Why did Peggy move back to High Ridge from Arnold? Was she placed back into your home?

    2) Was your step-father a police officer?

    Thanks - and I will try to figure out a way to Tweet out the flyer when it gets done - maybe you could make an account and find me on Twitter - realhousewifesl - Ok?

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hey and if tou have children Pegfysister - I wish you a wonderful Mother's Day!!

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    for everyone out there who has read this hub, sent thoughts of prayers, best wishes or shared this, I greatly appreciate you!!!

    Peggysister

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    anivardiashvili 5 years ago from Georgia

    Great Hub! I'll share it :)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Me too. And I tried to respond to the email - won't go thru - the answer is no - they aren't sharing only listening but I've been in touch. Still waiting for a return on the last one.

    I'll get the flyers this weekend. I'll mail them to police departments in every county in Missouri and surrounding in Illinois. I think I should get some to busy areas in High Risge too...like the post office - stores, like that. Not everyone reads:).

    I think we do need the right person to see it or pass it along.

    Oh and I was referring to Hunning - bc a commenter said you had lived over there. I didn't think that was right because I rode that bus home every night. I'd have remembered that. I said Schumacher by accident though - sorry people - I was thinking about that area - I had two friends that lived back there. Didn't mean to confuse things - but I thought the person was right and I was wrong.

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    RealHousewife:

    I hope the right person comes across it and helps us to find her!!!!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    This article has been read more than 2000 times Peggysister - that's a lot more people talking!!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Peggysister - Please do not guilt trip yourself. Everyone knows that YOU were just a kid. I have maintained all along that you kids would not have known what to do - and I didn't either.

    Shame on all the adults that were around you and didn't try to help - and I know there are a lot of convenient excuses but they would all be bullshit. I think you were a victim of your circumstance and you probably had to develop some tunnel vision just so you could survive. No one blames you - and i am so sorry.

    I am so glad you do have the opportunity to say what you want here though. To be able to say "get your facts straight!" I am trying - it is so convaluted and like you say - it is an old case.

    You are amazing! I really don't think anyone holds you or your siblings responsible - I think there is more anger directed toward the adults that were around and didn't behave as we expected them to.

    I do hope we find all the answers and I will have fliers made. I have had a few folks that said they would volunteer to help out mailing them.

    Give yourself a break - everyone is skeptical about onlline stuff - don't be offended that people are not sure about your identity. For all they know - I could be commenting under your name - I could have just made it up myself. So what if people think that - YOU know I didn't don't you?

    I think people do have some idea - and the emails I got are from some people that LOVE you - they care about you and they do not want to hurt you either...it is why they do not want to make their comments public. I understand that.

    I do think the answer is people talking. I will let you know as soon as I can have the fliers done. I will take a copy of the missing persons one - is that ok with you? Feel free to leave anything additional here - if you have a message you want me to add.

    The police have not called me back yet - but I am going to share my emails with them without revealing the sources. Last time it took them a few days to get around to me and I left a message on the non-emergent line:) I will let you know if I receive any more info as well!

    Try to have a nice weekend!

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    RealHousewife: I hope that convinces you that I am indeed Peggy sister. I can't answer a lot of questions,but I can answer the ones that are public knowledge. Such as, Peggy was last seen walking away from our house on Williams Creek. No one sent fliers out, but the detective told me that the more people that know the better, so I will assume it is ok to put the out. I don't know if it would do me any good down here, since this all happened in High Ridge. I haven't decided yet.

    I can not say who her older boyfriend was.

    They detectives are doing the very best they can with what they have to work with. I know that it is hard to pick up the trail of a case that is 26 years cold.

    Yes my parents are alive.

    Of course bringing up the past is painful, but the hurtful part is reading the negative comments from people who have no idea what our lives were like growing up.

    I do appreciate what you are doing, this is getting people talking, I don't know what you know but, know this...I am Peggy's sister, I love and miss her very much! I am being completely honest with the things that I tell you. I have and will continue to keep updated on the things that I am allowed to.

    Peggysister

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    RealHousewife: First, I AM Peggy's sister!!! I have spent the last 26 years crying for her!!

    We all handle our grief differently, just because we didn't get the media involved, doesn't mean we stopped looking for her!!! What you all don't seem to understand,is that, for what ever reason, my parents didn't make much of an effort to find her, and we were just KIDS!!! We didn't know how to go about contacting the newspaper & television stations. Please stop making it sound like we weren't looking for her or didn't care about her, or that we are trying to hide something. She was our sister, we did the best we could back then, we just didn't know.

    I am not covering anything up in this case, I am just not allowed to tell everything that I know!!! I live in Poplar Bluff and I can't do anymore than I am doing right now to help to find my sister. I have constant contact with the lead detective and I have been completely open and honest with him..

    As far as the fliers, I was waiting on a response from the lead detective in this case, he said that it would be fine, the more people that know the better.

    I cannot tell you what the report says about "where she was found" or who said that she was found. My dad IS the one who reported her missing. We knew she was missing when she didn't come home. How would you know someone you loved was missing?!

    I don't know what poster you are talking about that mentions Hunning Road, we never lived on Hunning Road and that's not where she disappeared from.

    I don't know who your other source is,& I don't care but you really need to get your facts straight.

    The case was reopened because I called and talk to someone who was working on a similar case. They contacted Jefferson County for me and it took off from there. It had nothing to do with John being arrested on some big break, just that we finally got in touch with the right people. You all seem to have a sheriff now who actually cares about his community.

    I really do want to find my sister, this case may have been just now officially opened, but for me and certain other people in my family, it was never closed. I must say again, some of us have never stopped looking for Peggy. Those who have, think that she is already dead.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Peggysister - I thought that is what you may have meant. I have gotten word from someone who says that you were not allowed to talk about her. I've also had word that the authorities may have been part of a cover up. I'm not sure why but I've always thought it was awful shoddy detective work - and why drop the ball on that case?

    I'm so sorry - I know this is very stressful for you but if you really want to find her - these things have to be asked and answered.

    One reader wants to know where was Peggy last seen? At your home or the foster home in Arnold? I'm not sure.

    People are writing to me that are afraid. Even after all these years - being grown up and everything they fear different things. I will never ever reveal a source unless I'm legally bound. So for anyone else who wants to speak or has anything to say - you go shed and feel free to private message me also. I will keep confidentiality, this is how it will get solved. Little pieces that fit together.

    Peggysister - I totally understand feeling so afraid you can't do what you know you should do. I understand the feeling of being suffocated by your own scary thoughts - I'm so sorry about what happened to all of you. Everyone clearly knows this is not your doing and that you did your best to survive. You should be proud of yourself. All these people - do care about you and I know you can see everyone agrees it isn't your fault:)

    So did anyone ever send flyers of her out? Who was her older boyfriend - can you say?

    I'd also like to remind people that I know certain things can't be revealed because the investigation is ongoing - so we should all know you may not be able to say certain things. But it doesn't look to me like there has been much going on anyway...I still have heard nothing locally.

    I'm sure it's also very hard to remember details from so long ago too - and maybe you will start to remember things in the future that didn't make sense then but do now.

    Are your folks still alive? I think your parents hold the key.

    Thanks and again - I am sorry I know this hurts but sometimes you must go back to the past to fix the future.

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    scthaw: I want you to know that the situation about not talking about what went on behind closed doors wasn't just isolated to Peggy's disappearance!! It was a part of what our everyday lives from the time we were old enough to understand!!!!! There were BAD things going on in that house!!! We were not allowed to talk about it!!!!!

    I really don't know where my sister is!!! When she disappeared, I was only 15, I didn't know how to even begin to look for her on my own.

    My other sister was told back in 2005 that Peggy's case was closed.How dare you say that we are trying to cover something up!! You have no idea the hell some of have been through looking for my sister over the past 26 years!!

    I actually agree with you that if it was my child, I would have been calling every ten minutes, but she wasn't my child, she was my sister and I WAS a child.I think that my parents should have been spending every minute of every day looking for her, I don't know why they didn't and that is their business.

    When I became able and aware of the steps to take, I started looking for my sister again. When I talked to the Sheriff's Department, I asked the questions that my mother should have been asking 26 years ago.

    The Sheriff's Department didn't call and say Peggy was found. Someone from our family called and said Peggy was found, but not until years later. It was not protocol for a deputy to come and check on the victim back then, I wish that it was, perhaps this case would have been solved by now.I hope the truth about my sister's disappearance comes out soon. I still love her and miss her very much, no matter what you seem to think!!!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Diane - I am just letting the comments roll. This is how secrets start to come out. I do wonder if that is what the family fears. I mean - like above - if it were my sister - well you'd all know this long ago, I'd be up in everyone's faces...I'd be trying to get news coverage - I'd be begging for help!

    I do not understand several points such as this.

    Nothing makes sense. Like Peggysister said earlier - each time they would call the police they would say shed been found and the ace was closed".....ok well then where was she found? Who said that? The police told me - the father reported her missing. I say - the mystery starts right there from that call.

    Why did he say she was missing? How did they know? In the poster it says she was last seen "the day before". Everyone knows - off Hunning and Schumacher lane? You don't just go walking off and take a bus somewhere. Peggy had no car and probably not much money or any other resources.

    The truth will come out. I would love to think positively too but I hold little hope Peggy is alive. It's a bigger possibility that she isn't. I only remember something terrible happening to one other girl - some of you may remebr Denise Detrick? She was murdered when I was in 4th grade...they found her killer. Girls just didn't go missing where we lived. It was an insualted community I think...everyone knew everyone else.

    I think there are a few people with answers, once those key people realize that this is unraveling...I think people will start talking. The first people that start to talk are usually the ones who don't go to jail.

    I'm still waiting to hear from a few people I've written to...I'll update if I get new news:)

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    Diane Minton 5 years ago from Evansville, Indiana

    Me too, there are too many mysteries surrounding this case as all of the comments so thoroughly point out.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    I know scthaw - and I think you've voiced what many of us are thinking.

    I'm very curious and I've received other emails privately - suggesting Peggysister isn't really Peggysister. Now - I don't know what the case is - but there are some very strange contradictions for sure. In my heart - I do not think Peggy got away. I think she's still somewhere close to her home. Maybe Peggysister doesn't know - but a family that is not vocal about their sister being lost - well there's something not right about that.

    If the kids were abused - I can understand them not asking questions and refusing to believe anything but that she ran off. But why the cover up now? Who is there to fear?

    I offered to send flyers out - why no response? Unless theres no use in looking for her because everyone knows where she is?

    I appreciate your honesty and I do think this girl should be found. We should never just leave someone behind. If anyone of our class mates just up and was gone like that - I'd do the same. I hope no one would just let me go off and disappear and no one bothers to find out what happened!

    Someone knows where she is - most likely more than one person. The answers may not come out today - but they will.

    That email I received - that person was very close to the family - they also believe she did NOT run away. So you are not alone.

    I'm so sorry to Peggysister - maybe you don't know what happened and hey let's not forget - maybe this person isn't allowed to tell more just now due to the investigation being open.

    I'd like to know who - went to the police and had the case reopened - how did that happen last June and why??

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    scthaw 5 years ago

    I'm going to go out on a limb here...You decide wether or not to post it.....

    Something that was stated in Peggysisters comment strikes me as strange, this hub and FB are the two places I've seen the same statement, she states on FB.

    "You were not alerted to her disappearance because we weren't allowed to talk about what happened behind closed doors" and she says something along the same lines in one of her comments above, about "not talking about what went on behind closed doors".

    Well, if she just ran off and nothing bad happened to her"behind closed doors" then there is no reason to remain silent, I also can't believe that they didn't know the case had been closed for over 25 years! If my daughter was missing and I didn't hear anything for a couple of years (I actually would have been calling every ten min) I would have called sooner and found out 25years ago that "someone" called and said she had returned home and the case was closed. It just doesn't add up.

    I want to be positive about this but I find the circumstances just won't allow it, so instead of sittting around "thinking positive" I'm going to say what's on my mind.

    A deep sadness seems to overwhelm me when I think of Peggy and all of the struggles I witnessed her having to endure and I'm sure at some point I took part in as well while we were in high school. You're right no matter what her circumstances were back then she deserves whatever help we can give in locating her.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    hey scthaw - I don't want to reveal the source at all but I totally think he is legit...not sure what I should do with it just yet.

    They don't think Peggy ran away that I will say. I am sorry if Peggysister feels bad reading that but everyone knows it is a possibility. This person was around then too. I will keep their identity secret:)

    Right! Troy Dunn - That is the guy - yeah I can see what I can find on him too! Thanks so much!!

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    scthaw 5 years ago

    Troy Dunn The locator, was the name of that show!

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    scthaw 5 years ago

    Care to share the contradictions?? LOL

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi scthaw - thanks that is a great idea too and I know what show you mean - but I can't think of the name either! Gosh that drives me crazy because I can even picture the guy's face - I saw a few episodes of that!

    Maybe someone will post it - that is a terrific idea. I wondered if she just maybe changed her name and filed for a new one...never using the old. Or look at Jaycee Dugard - she was even working and seeing people face to face.

    At this point - I am not counting anything out. I don't know if someone got away with murder or if Peggy slipped away being the sneakiest, smartest 17 year old to date?

    Ive recently heard some contradictions that are very strange.

    Thanks - I hope we are looking in the right direction!

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    scthaw 5 years ago

    Even if she has gotten married and never worked her social security # would turn up in the files of the IRS when her and or husband had to file their income tax earnings, which according to the law is every year......

    She would have also needed her social security # if she had ever applied for a loan of any kind.

    There used to be a show on TV where some guy down in Florida made a living finding lost loved ones, I can't for the life of me think of the name of the show, if I do I'll post it on here, or if any other followers know the name of the shoe maybe they can be contacted as well.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Diane - that sure would be nice. I was also shocked that not even one officer was sent to confirm that she really was home. The whole thing and how the case was handled was weird! So many why's.

    I bet she already must have had a social security number - if she was in the system I'm sure of it. So one would think if she was alive...the authorities would be able to track her using this. Now it's possible she could have gotten married and never worked?

    All is not as it seems in this case. It is still very weird. I realize it's an ongoing investigation but its awfully hard to find someone when you aren't looking. My grandma always used to say, "don't go looking for things you don't want to find"....for some reason that statement keeps coming to mind.

    Thank you so much!

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    Diane Minton 5 years ago from Evansville, Indiana

    It is amazing that they were told she was at home and no one even checked to confirm that it was her or to get any details. But this was over 20 years ago and without all of the technology we have in law enforcement today, I guess no one thought of it? I along with other commentators hope that she is alive and safe now. Lets hope when she is found that you will be doing a Hub on that!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hey scthaw - that is another excellent idea! I sure will!

    I sent an email to Bill McClellan at the post dispatch as well. I haven't heard back but it was only a couple of days ago that I thought of it.

    Thank you - now that's super helpful thinking!!

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    scthaw 5 years ago

    Try contacting 48HRS Mystery, see if they can help.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Zann17 - thank you very much - it really is sad. I also hope she's found alive and well:).

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    zann17 5 years ago from Bristol, England

    What a sad story. Hope shes found alive and well

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    To the chick who left me a page long comment - yeah this hub isn't about you. I'm sorry if you do not like how I portrayed Northwest - it's a fact. We had over 2000 kids in school to what 50 teachers? 75? hm? We had to have classes in trailers for lack of room! I was merely pointing out that it would be easy for a kid to not be noticed if they were in need.

    I had a lot of friends in school but no I didn't care for it too much. Sorry if that makes you unhappy - but this hub is about Peggy so let's not detract ok? If you'd like to chew me out more - go ahead

    and send me a private message, ok? Until then - you don't know me so don't make assumptions

    about me. I went to college and have had a terrific life thanks all the same.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Thanks a lot Cindy - you are correct on both counts. I believe the foster home was in Arnold because she went to Fox according to everyone. I was so hoping someone from our school would know something.

    Have a terrific day:)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi scthaw - yeah that was what I was kind of making a point of - I think there were just so many kids at school - it would have been really easy to get lost in the system. We just had so many kids and not enough teachers - and I think the teachers were over worked.

    I think it's real weird too that she would just run off like that - and right before she turned 18! It doesn't make sense. Peggy would have been emancipated at 18 - so freedom was right there if she wanted to leave.

    Tecnically - a child can leave the home at age 17 - but a parent can not "kick" them out until they are 18. It's wack.

    I do hope we get some answers...it's just so wrong that no one knew back then. I don't understand how the police could have just dropped it?? That is what amazes me so much more - how could they just walk away?

    Thanks so much for your support and I hooe you're doing great and living large!

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    Cindy Smith Leach 5 years ago

    From what her sister said above, she ended up in foster care and went to Fox during that time.

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    Cindy Smith Leach 5 years ago

    Cricket, they lived on Hunning Rd. and Williams Creek, if that helps.

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    scthaw 5 years ago

    I would have graduated with Peggy in 1985,we started school together in 1972.

    Like a lot of people I did not know she was missing until last year. The sad part is that she went missing in March of 85, I wonder how it is that a fellow classmate can go missing with 3 months left to go in the term and no one realize it.

    I never heard a teacher or another student say anything about her missing. I find it quite strange that she would "run off" with only a few months until graduation.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    HI cricket - thank you so very much. It is a sad situation, but the more people that have their eyes and ears open the better the chance is that she will be found. I appreciate the time you took to read and comment. Good luck to you as well:)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Cindy Smith Leach - I don't think anyone did know back then - I think it was not investigated at all then. Supposedly someone called the Sheriff's office and said that Peggy had returned home. Even though she had not - they closed the case. They didn't actually go and check to see her in the flesh.

    Thank you so much for spreading the word - especially near home. She disappeared in Jeff County - so the trail starts there. It is such a shame that so much time has gone by...but someone has answers. Thank you again and good luck to you as well:)

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    cricket45 5 years ago

    How sad, I never knew she was missing. If this is the girl I believe it is, I lived up the street from her, rode the bus together and even played at her house a few times. I pray that she is ok.

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    Cindy Smith Leach 5 years ago

    This case makes me so sad because I don't know anyone that ever knew that Peggy went missing back then. Peggy is such a sweet girl, as is her sister that I went to school with since High Ridge Elementary all the way through Northwest (class of 1988 if that is you peggyssister). I am posting this to my facebook, and hopefully with all those from my class up through Peggy's class, the word is going to be passed by everyone. I pray that she is found or contacted and that she safe and well.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi cclitgirl - thank you so much! It's just nice to be able to do something productive:). I, too, think Peggy's sitter is courageous! I do think it's got to be hard to be continually worried for his sister. I'm so sure her love for Peggy outweighs any concern for herself...I so hope somehow she gets the answers she has deserved for all these years.

    Thank you so much for your support and help too!

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    Cynthia Sageleaf 5 years ago from Western NC

    Wow! You have truly gone above and beyond in your efforts to find Peggy. I hope that they find her - against the odds. I'm truly moved that Peggy's sister has taken the time and the courage to comment. What a big heart and outpouring of love you have and other people have demonstrated that, too, in the comments. I hope they find Peggy.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Susan - it really is amazing...I am so glad to know the effort was not in vain:). I didn't know if the family would want this brought up again but I hoped that my feeling was right that I'd want someone - anyone - to reach out and help me find my family if they had a way. It seemed so wrong to just flip the light out and go back to bed pretending this was just something I couldn't help. We can all help - thank YOU for helping too! I so appreciate that!

    If people stuck their necks out a little more often - maybe we could all breathe a little easier when our children are not on sight. As it stands - never blink an eye with your kids - they could be gone forever. Sad freaking reality - don't move to KC, St. Louis or St. Louis county if you have beautiful daughters!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Jeannie - I agree I mean their sister IS out there somewhere and the family at least deserves to know if she's safe. Peggy also deserves to know where ever she is that she is loved and cared for. She should know her siblings miss her and maybe she needs to hear that. Most people - no matter how tenuous - need those connections to our roots. It was never investigated and this inequity can't be balanced but we can try to make it more right.

    Thank you so much for your help!

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    Susan Holland 5 years ago from Southwest Missouri

    Wow, Kelly! Amazing work, and now you and Peggy's sister are working together. I hope you find out more on her case.

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    Jeannie InABottle 5 years ago from Baltimore, MD

    This is so sad. I certainly hope she is just hiding out somewhere and doesn't want to be found. I will share this hub. I hope someone finds her soon. Not knowing is always the worst for the family.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi mikeydcarroll67 - it must be the most painful feeling ever. I know I couldn't rest if one of my family members was missing...I'd have no choice but to spend my time trying to find them. Searching for people is much easier now but still - you get a common name or someone who lives off the grid - could be hit and miss. Back on 1985 though - we didn't even have computers in our homes! I worked for a lawyer at that time and I thought I was styling with my Selectric II with autocorrect tape:) lol. So - I just wish this could have been investigated 26 years ago - years gone by make it so much harder but NOT impossible! Thank you so much!

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    mikeydcarroll67 5 years ago

    That's sad when someone goes missing and we never know what happened to them. That can be one of those things that could be very stressful for those individuals that are continually searching.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi slcockerham - thank you so much for your kind words. I think this makes me feel so much better...doing nothing would have bothered me more. I saw this show on TV not long ago - it was called "What Would You Do?" I think...and it was fascinating. They created a situation where someone was obviously being horrible to another human...and they taped the reaction and actions of people around them. I was disgusted. Most humans just sat there and gawked. There were a few brazen - cool ones that did the right thing...even when people just didn't help at all. I want to be one of the ones that gets up off their ass to help:) thanks for your help too!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi cgfacevedo - I am amazed at how many people go missing...I troll the websites looking for Unsolved stuff and I was shocked to find that in Missouri almost every county has 0 - 5 missing persons and in three counties there are a freaking SCARY numbers - Kansas City 141 missing - St. Louis County - 335 and St. Louis City 223 or near!! What is up with that? Also I've heard of sex trafficking rings in KC. I can't say how I know this - but recently - a van was pulled over in St. Louis - there was gunfire and they found drugs and a woman chained and held captive in that van. They had been using her for sex, we need more help in these cities - apparently girls are just ripe for the picking in those three counties/cities.

    I know it's a long shot - but for anyone who doubts that she can be found alive? I ask you to think about Jaycee Dugard, Shawn Hornbeck - Elizabeth Smart....those 3 come right to mind! Now Peggy Is waiting to be found. Thank you for helping!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    peggysister - no I have not heard either way. I am going to keep asking! I just do not see why they wouldn't be interested. Now - I thought of this today! How about if I have flyers made up and we can mail them to every police department in Missouri and Illinois for a start? I am worried since our technology was so bad back then there could be information somewhere. I will pay for everything myself...I would like to try that if you don't mind?

    I think if we can keep pestering Unsolved - we might get their attention...I'm so afraid my emails are just mixed in with zillions! Let me know what you think or if my suggestion has already been done?? I'm thinking we should just keep shaking trees!

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    slcockerham 5 years ago from Tallahassee, Florida

    RealHousewife, my wife and I were just talking of difficult family situations before I came upon your Hub. These disappearances always break my heart, as an over the road trucker for years, you see them all over, and quite often the results are not a happy ending. I hope and pray that this one is the exception and ends up to be the happy ending.Sincerely, SLC ps. Thanks for caring enough to write this hub, I know this isn't easy for you either!

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    RealHousewife: You stated that you "hoped Unsolved Mysteries might help", have heard anything saying that they can't or won't?

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi grinnin1 - Yeah you know I knew something just wasn't right about this. I knew that her photo should have been spread out many years ago. I saw a few threads online - pure gossip. It was super annoying and I thought - rather than entertaining yourselves why not freaking write something helpful? Then I thought - Ok ... well I can hardly just walk away - I say that I keep it real...so I thought I would just do that:) I am so happy that is does seem to be helping to at least get info out. I hoped Unsolved Mysteries might help because they could investigate and they have a wealth of resources!

    Thank you so very much for the read, comment and support:)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Riverfish - thank you so much! I sincerely hope that it helps...everyone knows the key to finding someone is by getting the info out to the public...so when I found out about it I figured this would be a good way to spread her photo and the fact that people ARE looking for her. I have high hopes:) Thanks again! I appreciate your help and support!

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    grinnin1 5 years ago from st louis,mo

    What a story. I will share and keep an eye on what happens. So great that after all this time, you write about Peggy and her struggles and bring it out publicly. I certainly hope that there is a positive outcome. Thank you for writing something so important and heartfelt.

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    Riverfish24 5 years ago from United States

    This is fantastic and the most meaningful hub I have ever come across. I pray and hope Peggy is fine and that her family may find her again. May things turn out well...kudos to your initiative RealHousewife.

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Oh thank you so much Misty! I so appreciate it - I really hope we can find Peggy and since her case was neglected for so long - no one could really get the word out before. This is all new news even though it's old news you know? You're awesome Cindy - thanks again!!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Peggysister - ok that's cool...this hub has been read hundreds of times and each person sharing and tweeting will help. I'm not usre if you know how hub works - but the people leaving comments are from all over the globe...UK, Ireland, Scotland, many people from the US in every state. I feel like the action is just getting started - so don't give up hope just yet! I won't either:)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Sunnie Day - I do not know what happened - I am still hoping by fluke we find her. You never know - I was told by someone that my own father was dead - so I didn't look for him. I found him just last year and he was very much alive. It wasn't too hard to find him once I started looking - I searched property records and tracked him down like that. Now in my wildest dreams if you'd have told me ten years ago that would happens I'd have laughed at you. So I swear I'm not counting anything out! Thank you so much for your support!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi AEvans - I know many people feel that way but I don't yet. I still think even if she were not alive - someone would have had abetted chance of finding her. I really just do not know - but I'm sure as heck not willing to just close my eyes and not try. Thanks for your support and thanks for sharing:)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Thanks so much Teacher! I'm so glad and so relieved to be doing something positive! Thank you so very much!! This is so important!

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    Cindy Lawson 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands)

    I so hope your effort pays off and Peggy is found Kelly. As you requested I have shared this article on Facebook and Twitter etc.

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    peggysister 5 years ago

    RealHousewife: I am following this hub. I have been on here every day sometimes twice a day to check for any updates. I have also added this link to my fb page. I am truly grateful for all of your efforts, as well as those who have posted on their fb and twitter pages.

    I have never given up hope of finding my sister. I just wish I could say for sure that I would be able to put my arms around her and tell her how much I love her.

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    Sunnie Day 5 years ago

    Thank you for sharing this important hub. So sad and a story that is all too common in this world. I shudder think what could have happened to this precious person. We can only hope that she left and is now happy and content somewhere. I pray they find the answers soon.

    Thank you for alerting us to this situation that hopefully will have closure soon.

    Sunnie

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    Julianna 5 years ago from SomeWhere Out There

    You are an amazing individual to aid in locating Peggy. How sad that she has not been heard from. :( My feeling tells me she just didn't disappear. I feel something sinister happened to her and people are not talking. So sad. I will pass it along and pray for the best.

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    LaDena Campbell 5 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

    I shared this on my FB page, as well as Pinterest. I have already had 3 repins on Pinterest, so the word is getting out...

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Teacher! Thanks so much - I do have a lot more hope - I am hoping her sister is following so she can have some hope too:). If everyone spreads this - it's not like we need a million bucks to invest - I'm just asking people to look at her face...just to take a moment to make sure they have never seen her. If they have - make a call! Someone knows where she is either way - usually more persons than one have more answers. Someone probably wants to tell too - it's how crime or emotions work.

    I can imagine that maybe Peggy is alive out there and maybe she's picked up her phone a million times to call her family and changed her mind. Maybe she's just unsure where they are? Maybe she thinks they never looked? There are a million reasons she may not have contacted them.

    Thanks so much for your help!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi somewayouttahere - yes I have to admit I hoped it would find it's way to her family. I still have ties to many people in Jeff County (my sister still lives there) so I shared it on my personal FB. I got several comments from high school friends. They were giving input and sharing it. I know how small towns work. Gossip is juicy juicy news and you say the right thing in the right ear...people will whisper - it's a short grapevine:). I just thought it would take a bit longer - the fact that it didn't is very encouraging. My other hunch was that the family might like to see some people speaking out. I figured the sisters and brothers may have been trying to get help and their efforts fell on deaf ears. So it was the case. When I found out that they just took someone's word for the explanation that she was back sounded like a very weak reason but they used it to close the case. Thank goodness it's been reopened. But it's been 26 years I think it's time to REALLY work to solve something. Not just make a few calls.

    Thanks so much for your help and support!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Thank you so much Robin Sparrow - I so appreciate it. This is truly a grass root effort so I'm really glad to see some activity on her behalf. Her sister up there - deserves a chance to find her. I was shopping with my sister earlier and thought about how much I take that simple seeming thing for granted. I was thinking I bet Peggy and her sister would love to do some an ordinary thing. It will take an extraordinary effort but I can't think of a better cause:). Thanks so much!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Candie V - thank you so much - and I agree. There's always hope and I so appreciate your help, prayers and shares. It's encouraging to know something is happening...I mean there hasn't even been so much as a news clipping around here. I realize we live in a city with tons of crime but in 26 years this has slipped through the cracks. This case deserves a thorough investigation. Thanks for helping!

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    LaDena Campbell 5 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

    What a great hub! Hopefully you getting the word out will get the right people talking and she will be found. As you said, you found a sister of hers, so someone out there will know something and share with the right people. Keep up the awesome work!

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    SomewayOuttaHere 5 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

    amazing...wow...and her sister stumbled upon your writing...keep up the good work/search/awareness, etc...

    Peace to Peggy and Peggy's family and friends!

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    robinsparrow 5 years ago from Ogden, UT

    I definatly want to help. I will be posting this on my facebook, linkedin, google+ and twitter accounts. This shouldn't happen in any kind of time frame. Children are our future not our punching bags. If our future goes missing we need to go out of our way to get the future back.

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    Candie V 5 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

    Well.. there's always hope! The family deserves to have answers whether they're the ones they hope for or not.. I'm reposting this on Twitter and FB.. and just maybe..

    Hugs to the Alt family! I'm praying for an end to your search - the hole in your life!

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Thank you so much Marcy:). You're so awesome! If we can keep looking and making others look - she's somewhere to be found. I just didn't want to be a coward and ignore what I had heard. It made me so angry that I couldn't hardly find any information whatsoever $6. Then I found out that it was swept under the rug! I could not just act like me or anyone like me could not help! How could I not try? I decided I couldn't and I had to at least try.

    Thanks so much for your support!! I am more hopeful now than ever:)

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    Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

    Hi Ruby Rose! Thank you. I am usually writing funny stuff or about scams, this ones a little more personal. I am so glad to have awesome friends like you to help for a cause like this. I believe there are answers - no matter what someone knows something and the family deserves to at least let her know they love and miss her! Gosh for 26 years no one would lift a finger to help them....injustice! Thanks again:)