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Political Parties recipe of failure

Updated on March 25, 2012

Democrat?Republican?American?

Politics have always been the ignition for heated debate and can result in division,hate, intolerance and violence.Few people will agree totally on every issue but this is the stuff of democracy.To further compound the "inherent" problems of democracy is the "party"system.A system that promotes division and creates an environment that is impossible to have objectivity and true compromise.As testament to the failures of a party system one need only look to the US and it's social and economic problems.Some may not agree,as is their right at the moment,but due to the weaknesses of a party system corruption can easily gain control.Look at the facts around current events and even a child can see in which direction the government and America are now heading and why.In recent years accountability has diminished along with citizens rights while government power has increased along with the National Debt.

George said it would be like this

In the formation of the US many of the founding fathers were opposed to allowing the existence of political parties.Unfortunately their warnings fell on deaf ears but their descriptions were uncanny and undeniably correct, almost prophetic.The brilliance of these men stand the test of time and educational advances enough to suggest that on issues of governing we as a culture actually have decreased in knowledge.

At the end of his presidential appointment the First President of the US warned,"Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, forments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another."-George Washington

There is no confusing his or many of his contemporaries disapproval and mistrust of allowing political parties to take hold in the governing system.These men were more than stating an opinion they were emphatic in their opposition to the party system."There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."-John Adams

" I am not a Federalist, because I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."-Thomas Jefferson

Despite the warnings,the failure was in not writing this into law,and now the opinions of the many are outweighed by the few.

In current the division of the parties have become so arrogant and disruptive that Congress is often locked endlessly in disagreement and monetary gain sways the vote instead of protecting the citizens.In fact the only bills that the parties have agreed upon unanimously have been aimed at undermining the rights of citizens provided by the Constitution.This alarming move is similar to events that occurred after World War 1 when the Great Depression was beginning.In attempt to retain power when public approval was very low the Democrats and Republicans passed laws seriously preventing any third party from posing a threat by setting unfair conditions for the submission of candidates not represented by either of the "big two".

It is obvious that in allowing PACs and other special interest funding of campaigns that candidates realistically are not operating without conflicting influence by corporations and groups with intentions of monetary or power gains.This creates a system where the public good takes a back seat to the interest of small groups.No one can honestly state that they have never heard of or witnessed this fact in the laws and policies of the US.Unfortunately party affiliation and or support is passed from father to son,mother to daughter and ingrained in the thinking of the majority of people creating denial and rationalization of party actions even when those action are not in their favor or destructive in general.These FACTS imply that the governing system of the US cannot sustain itself while political parties are allowed to exist. Any citizen desiring a system of freedom and a government existing to serve the public interest should not support either of the controlling parties.Despite of the skewed representation of the facts neither Democrats nor Republicans have the interest of the 99% at heart.The public good is just a side line issue or necessary evil that is surpassed by campaign donation and under the table gifts by lobbyists and their employers.

Within the last decade the two parties have divided up the burden of unpopularity resulting in the destruction of the Constitution.The Republican party drew shortest straw and initiated the move.Followed up then by the Democratic party recently.Each group showing support for their Executive Branch in the beginning then taking a step away and ultimately in opposition.This is a very convenient method of Undermining the Constitution without condemnation of either party and placing fault into the lap of an official that will be replaced in time.Allowing the parties to influence and make controversial changes ultimately increasing the power of the government and removing the power of the general public.

The ironic truth of this is that a corrupt one sided governing body will ultimately fail due to lack of ethics and greed.This has manifested itself in recent years in the form of militarization and economic collapse.These undeniable facts are not due to the policies or beliefs of one party over the other but a combination of the self motivated short sited parties and the groups that are influencing either group.Under the current system of government public opinion will continue to fall due to failing financial and social issues that are determined by the Same bodies that have failed up to present time.At the point of total outrage in the parties the government will begin to exercise the new laws put in place to retain control of their place in governing.Laws that are in fact on the books and do in fact remove the public's right to protest or impede the government upon penalty of imprisonment without trail and or implementation of a militarized state.Contrary to public knowledge and opinion certain organizations funded by billions of tax dollars are at present collecting information and monitoring every public form of communication flagging any who show disapproval of current events.Transparency has diminished,authority of the Executive Branch has increased beyond control of Congressional oversight( Congress almost unanimously passed laws bestowing this power)and irresponsible management of borrowed money increases.All the while Democrats and Republicans bicker and introduce recipes of failure that are seriously flawed.Everything from welfare to the military runs on borrowed money and the Nation's credit rating has dropped.Which seriously compromises national security and increases money lending countries' influence on the policies of The United States of America. Changes are ahead that will reveal the merit of parties and party systems and the public will not be afforded the same denials and complacency and will be forced to choose Life,Liberty,and The Pursuit of Happiness or Democrat/Republican. What will you choose?

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      Davesworld 5 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

      Is it the political party or the advent of the professional politician regardless of party. Professional politicians have one and only one goal, re-election, and they will do anything it takes to get re-elected. It doesn't matter if the pro is a Republican or a Democrat they act the same. Our natiion's problems begin when politics became an occupation rather than a duty.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      i agree ,the politicians turned public service into a career.They learned how to exploit the system and it's weaknesses to their favor. Now due to this career politics we are all in a tight spot.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      Political parties are a natural consequence of politics. Washington knew Hamilton and Jefferson would go their separate ways. Washington lived in the Goldilocks Zone, enjoying a moment unheard of in world history. He was king but not his majesty.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Democracy can exist without political parties.Parties are created as a means to force opinion. Yes,some people will agree were others will not,but political parties are nothing more than primitive thinking.If the party system were not allowed your comprehension would be different. Parties result in bullying and gang type behavior.You see parties as natural due to historical events and definitions by men within political parties. If you had been born into this world where parties were not allowed do you think Democracy would be different?Of course,we would have many more candidates and they would have to more brilliant than today.Mediocrity would not make the cut,as we would have many options when voting.The only natural thing about the party system is men who would go to lengths to impose their will over many with force.Which seems to be the nature of SOME men.The party system leads to the problems we see today where the people have to choose between a lesser evil,accepting the one that is the least ridiculous instead of the most brilliant.No two men will always agree this is why we have the vote,where the majority wins.Political parties take that idea and toss it out the window as we only have one choice or the other.Then again maybe you are correct parties are natural,well there are a multitude of natural behavior we have laws against that are immoral and unjust.We as higher evolved creatures suppress many "natural" instincts daily and should not limit ourselves to gang land governing.It seems juvenile and cowardly to me to have to group together to express your views.At the same time I resent the fact that my options are limited to thieves and liars and no matter who the candidate or party I will never be sheep to be led.That's my take you may agree or disagree that's your right,for now.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      In order to achieve your goals, political parties must be abolished as you stated. Even a King or Dear Leader could never accomplish this. The Supreme Court wouldn’t touch it nor would Congress. Ordering someone to stay out of a party is far more tyrannical than exercising the option not to join. The United States is a Republic, not a Democracy. We elect officials to represent us and address our needs from afar. Most people couldn’t locate Chile on the map much less vote who should be the American ambassador. Imagine military matters left to greasy thumbs of uneducated voters? Humans coalesce into groups with others who share similar interests. In the political arena, this truth manifests itself in political parties. It will never change. Natural acts may be made illegal, such as murder and rape, but they will always be with us. As will political parties.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Yeah,it's the nature of men to accept the known and fear the unknown,so let's drudge on through until we have no options left.We can take what we have always been taught and just say,"that's just how it is",or we can demand performance for the money we spend.I for one believe that we "greasy thumbed uneducated voters" have a little more intelligence than some would give credit.World affairs are not difficult to understand,it's the political shifting and under handed talk that the honest simpletons may find it hard to understand.If you feel good about paying a man to work against you then you should be comfy and pleased with our government,but you shouldn't mistake the common man as uneducated and greasy thumbed. Sophistication and education are not measures of intelligence,some of the most intellectual people I have met had very little formal education but were natural leaders.Change is very possible if the comfort level disappears for elected officials. That's just the view that the powers that be want us to have.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      The American experiment has worked out beautifully. Americans enjoy lives that surpass that of the Olympians. The world is a giant ghetto and outsiders have tried all of these kooky experiments. I don’t think so. I'll take the God given blessing that I've been given being born in this country. I will be grateful for it. I will not bitch about it. Long live the Republic.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Well I'm happy for your ability to be satisfied and I will admit that even as it stands this is a better place to be than most.Although if some accountability is not applied before too much longer it won't matter if you like it or not.I do not hate America I am a patriot,That's why I am outraged by the direction in which our governing body is going.This country has been the great place to be due to the Constitution,and the rights that it gives each of us.The now standing governing body have passed many laws that are directly illegal as far as that Constitution.As of yet very few people know just how many of their rights have either weakened or been taken away.In time these things will manifest themselves in very harmful ways.These events are directly related to the weaknesses of the party system.In time or with more investigation of the facts there will be many begin to see these alarming truths.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      You should run for office. The Founders provided you with that opportunity. See how you handle true power. Would you outlaw parties if you were king?

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      That's funny,you should do some research on the founding of this country and go to the Fed web site and read for yourself some of the new laws.Do you believe in the constitution?If you do you might possibly want to rethink the stand you take when being sarcastic to someone that cares about the rights of his fellow Americans.At present if you wanted to protest against your government you would have to go out into a field in the woods to do so.Because now it is a felony to do so anywhere in line of sight of a government installation.If you think I am not telling the truth do your homework and visit any of the many resources you will find by doing a google search. If you aren't convinced by reading the documents themselves then I guess you won't be convinced when martial law governs this once great land.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      Martial law will never rule the land. If unjust, we'd tear this whole country apart. Your villains would not inherit the earth. And I wasn't being funny. Would you ban political parties if given the opportunity? That's tyranny, my friend. You would be no different than they are. Remember that the US has an uncanny ability to correct itself. People tend to forget that. If we can survive the Civil War, we'll survive the Fed and the EPA.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Yes I think it should have been written into the Constitution to "Limit"the power of political parties and also to make it illegal for special interest groups to buy lobbyists and fund campaigns. So it's tyranny to make it illegal to burglarize,rob,kill,and rape?I didn't ask if you were trying to be funny I laughed because you were.All the while we all suffer and never reach the potential we have as a people because of a bunch of cronies and bullies.Like I said you have the right to your opinion"for now"but how long before that right is taken away?

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      Yes, it's tyranny. Your Constitution would have been a long, technocratic nightmare that wouldn't have survived the 19th century. Essentially you'd outlaw everything that you despise making the First Amendment irrelevant. You enjoy freedoms unheard of in history yet act as if you're a Soviet citizen. It won't be special interests that destroy this country, rather citizen ignorance and narcissism. Dostoyevsky wrote "the poor believe they have the same rights as the rich." You epitomize that thinking. Whining about the how hot the sun is will not bring the clouds.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Okay first,I'm not poor.Second,if you think the government we have today gives a tiny damn about you then wake up.Third,It's Everyone's Constitution and if you think we don't need one then your just showing your inability to see through the ridiculously weak propaganda.How is being limited to two choices strengthening our First Amendment rights?Apparently you have not heard that Your First Amendment rights are all but lost to your superb "Big Two" system. You need to educate yourself just a little on the issues of which you try to debate about before offensively spouting ignorance.Lastly the poor do have the same rights as the rich as far as the founding of this country and as for 99% of the soldiers and tax payers of this country are concerned.Alas this will be my last response to your petty diluted comments and delusions of grandeur.It is apparent you just want to argue or your stupid either way I am very busy and don't have any further time to acknowledge such lunacy.By the way I take the comment of "You epitomize that thinking"as a huge compliment.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      You failed to understand the meaning of my quote. It's impossible to prevent a rich man from behaving like a rich man. Your additions to the Constitution are absurd and Washington would have sent you packing. The delegates would have laughed as you rode away.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Okay,as I said earlier you have the right to your opinion and I have mine.One thing you must not understand is that these parties you so vigorously defend are taking your right to have that opinion away.Should we throw a party and bake a cake in celebration of the trillion dollar debt or our embarrassing credit rating or the corruption and under the table dealings that our perfect governing body has heaped upon us?Apparently you misunderstand the mentality of the founding fathers."All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to ... remain silent."Thomas Jefferson

      "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."Thomas Jefferson

      I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.

      "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."Thomas Jefferson

      "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."Thomas Jefferson

      That's but a few arguments I can make,by only one man.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      Jefferson would never call for the restrictions you demand. And of all the Founding Fathers, he was the most self-righteous and full of snappy quotes. He was also the most ruthless and cut throat. Jeffrrson would toss out everything in order to win. Just take a look at poor Adams. President Jefferson is the last man to quote in a moral debate. And if you want to take up arms, by all means do so. Jefferson would turn and run. He'd hide at Monticello and have his slaves bury the silver. My argument is not an undying defense of our party system. It's your belief that they should be outlawed. It's unworkable, impractical and tyrannical. That has been my point from the onset.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      It appears that you missed the point,there are lots of laws that tell men what to do.Writing into policy the limitation of party influence protects rights far more than suppresses them.Making political parties illegal at the founding of this country is no different than laws against racketeering.Do you consider it tyrannical that organized crime is illegal? There's little difference unless of course you are a lacky of one of the syndicates or stand to profit from their existence.There's no way to totally stop the formation of parties but they could have been restrained and limited in their power and kept only on the outer layers of government.Had any of the men involved with the formation of this country known where it would be right now none would have wanted to allow the party system.What they shed blood and sacrificed many lives to achieve has now become tainted and stands to undermine the very premises that they worked so hard to build.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      So you would eliminate the greed in men's hearts buy waving your magic wand? That somehow striking out the core element of politics would come up daisies? People under tyrants always find ways to disobey the Dear Leader. Has it occurred to you that people would still gravitate together in lieu of your prohibitions? Your edict would fall apart. The Constitution would have imploded. It sounds like dribble oozing from the pen of a tenured professor. Nothing will come of it.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Whatever you want to believe in there genius,you tow the line.For me I would rather not be but a puppet swallowing the spoons full of feces and thinking it was chocolate icecream just because someone once wrote some propaganda in a book.I'm sure weak minded people would have to have support especially when their motives were less than just.As I said before I for one am not nor have ever been "tribal".My motives are of honest and truthful intentions so why do I need confirmation? Just as you continuously spout idiotic offensive garble due to the insecurity of your own intellect or of your motivations you reveal your doubt in yourself or your argument or possibly you are showing your intolerance for difference of opinion.Either way your pro party argument is a lost cause when all you have to do is look at the state of the "beautiful"experiment and it's violations against the Constitution and the inevitable collapse of the economy under it's watch.It appears to me your way that you defend so arrogantly has already failed idiot.Core element of politics?Parties eliminate politics and the power of the vote altogether.Also perhaps "POLITICS"are some of the fundamental flaws to begin with.The very thought of men who trade the interest of the many for the interest of the few should be seen as treasonous.Along with any that would trade off their conscience and stand against the interest of the public solely due to party affiliation.Your system has failed miserably already so give up kicking a dead horse that will never gallop again.Gravitate to your corrupt system and try to blame the public unrest on the public and point fingers at the world and say they made you adopt oppressive policies and empirical behavior along with all of the other crimes against society that have been committed. The tyrant is the current body governing your blind eyes at this very moment.In a land where more and more cities make it illegal to feed the homeless and we have no right to peacefully protest,where habeas corpus no longer applies if the government sees fit,and everything you do is being watched and monitored.I would hate to know I was so blind that I could not see my hand in front of my face but march like a good little slave,for that will be your fate.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      I'm gathering that you'd ban political parties (bypassing the Constitution) if you were King. Would you stop there? What would be next? I’m sure you could contain yourself and suffer the humiliation when it blew up in your face. You seem like the type of person who'd hire a whipping boy to assuage his guilt. Some would support a Constitutional amendment to ban scatology and profane talk. It corrupts society, pollutes youthful minds and is just plain mean. The Founders were foolish not to include this provision yet you excel at it. And it would be easy to enforce just like your grand scheme. If only God had consulted you when designing human nature.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Wow that's hilarious.It was not me that started and continued to get personal,even after I agreed to dis agree it was you just as you continue to do now.Whatever you floats your boat this has become boring.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      You don't have to accept or post my responses. Any snarkiness I exhibited came for your call to abolish parties. It's absurd. But I understand that attacking your theory is like calling your child ugly. You've invested a lot into it and will never let it go. That's your right as an American as is mine to join a party. It works out beautifully.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      Get over yourself,the snarkiness you exhibited is due to you lack of vision and fear of the unknown.I have invested more in this ridiculous debate with you than I did in the hub.It's not even about politics anymore it's about you trying to tell me that I'm tyrannical when you are the one that cannot accept that someone's opinion differs.Hypocrisy is always strange to me,no matter how often I see it I'm still astounded by it.I will say one last time I agree to disagree with you on this.If you knew how to have a debate or discussion without sarcasm and insults it would be one thing but it's quite clear that concept slips over your head.The only thing beautiful about this whole debate is how much smaller you make supporters of the party system appear.As for accepting posts,why would I not?I have nothing to hide or fear from you or any other man.The only fear I possess is how things will be for my"ugly" kids when your parties have turned the US into a third world country.How will their lives and the lives of all of our children and grandchildren be?Right now 13,000 veterans that served in Iraq and Afghanistan are homeless,living on the streets and Democratic and Republican mayors and governors are passing laws making it illegal to feed the homeless."Welcome home from serving the country,sorry the economy sucks and you can't find work and sorry but since your trash living on the street we just can't have anyone giving you any food.But hey remember the Dems and Repubs are at work for your best interest." Give me a break.That's just an example of the many evils of but the present day,it would take weeks to list them all only for the last half century.No matter what kind of rhetoric you sling every problem this country has and has had can be traced back to the weaknesses of the easily corruptible party system.Give it a rest.

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      ExLeftist 5 years ago

      I'm not member of a party but wish I could check Unionist on the ballot. You are a tyrant and would impose your will if given chance. Anyone who proposes banning association or thought is dangerous. It never works, people are killed by the millions and streets run with blood. Yet the facts on the ground are unimportant to you. Only your cockamamie scheme and harebrained ideas deserve attention. I want the Bolshevik Hippies out of our universities. But it’s not going to happen. Only a moral shift in society cold right that terrible wrong and repair the damage they’ve caused. You speak of veterans? Why don't you move one into your home? Take care of him. Help him get back on his feet rather than wasting time propagating asinine plans. And if you take anything from this debacle, remember there will be no martial law in the United States. We will burn everything to ground if the government wrongly imprisoned us. This country and the world would explode overnight, shattering everything that we've built. Civilization would die. And in all honesty, I typed "OK" as a response to end this debacle but Hub said it was too short an answer. So you have the last word and God's speed.

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      mrshadyside1 5 years ago from Georgia

      When my son gets back I will move him in and help him back upon his feet.Even us super tyrants have some weaknesses.

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      the enemy14 4 years ago

      thank you for your insight. its a terrible truth that my generation has been raised with the demeanor of cattle. there is a social normality that has cast out anyone who does not take sides, and that notion in itself is wrong.

      and my thoughts about what the ex-leftist has said is this. he doesnt even realize if he belongs to no political party that he is being judged just as others are who do not conform to this wrong and illogical persona of politics in modern day society. he's defending a group that would crucify him to gain momentum and support to fulfill the wishes of the ones lining their pockets with money and power. yes you have a right to your thoughts, but political parties have sank our proverbial ship in this ever changing and shifting world. and to call you a tyrant? that's a bold accusation. which anyone on a crusade to justify acts they know to be un-just would do. this is the admission of someone who knows this system is wrong, but to defend themselves for actions questionable they challenge others who bring the injustice into light. if this were false, why is he stating he belongs to neither political party? he didnt tell you what a unionist was did he? i wont spoil the surprise, so if you get the opportunity look it up.(if you have not already) how can we be a union if only two major groups have the monetary support to govern? and i got a wholesome laugh out of his cold war attitude toward your beliefs, as if you were joseph stalin. "what next?" he states as a question of your morals and beliefs as if the poor would hate you for giving them the liberties they are sadly refused more than given. you are not banning thought, thats a ridiculous claim to make. and the greed in men's hearts are only fed by the belief that they can live forever through material gain. he doesnt see you do not condemn unity of the people, that you condemn the gathering of powers to put their needs and wants before the entire body of people to which it governs; that personal interest overshadow national benefit.

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