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President Trump and the 25th Amendment

Updated on September 7, 2018

It seems not only are the Democrats wanting to find a way to remove President Trump from office, but also both within the WH and among Republicans, are seeking a method to remove this President.

Other than impeachment, which most believe will not happen, the 25th Amendment is often discussed and talked about on both sides of the political spectrum. This Amendment has four sections and the first three are simply not going to happen. It is Section 4 that has ANY chance (barring an assassination) that could be invoked to remove the current POTUS.

In short, if Trump does not have the psychological ability to be President, if the overwhelming opinion of the Vice President and of officials confirmed by the Senate (a majority of the Cabinet), only then, would Trump be declared unfit to execute his duties. In this case, our new president would be Pence. But Trump could and would challenge this in writing and within four days the Cabinet must reaffirm or not the incapacity of Trump. If reaffirmed that Trump is unfit, then Congress would have to vote and a two-thirds vote in favor would remove Trump as President, otherwise, Trump remains in office.

A BIG however is that most legal scholars say that unpopularity, incompetence, poor judgment, and laziness do not constitute an inability within the meaning of the amendment. These last four reasons ARE the most common excuses why some are talking about removing Trump using the 25th Amendment. So, if the reason cited is because of Trump's "inability" to be President, it would seem the whole issue is moot.

Or is It?

If Cabinet members vote to declare Trump unfit but the VP does not concur, but the Speaker of the House sides with the Cabinet, is that enough to force Congress to vote? Even the best scenario is really a non-starter because if "inability" equals to unpopular, poor judgement, then its DOA. Assuming even this remote scenario occurs, would a Republican controlled Senate and House vote to remove him? Of course, the Democrats will vote to but they are currently a minority.

As of now, if the 25th Amendment is going to be invoked to remove Trump, it might have a better chance once the Democrats control the House and Senate, which means after the November elections. Even then, it would have to start with Trump's Cabinet, which of course, they are not inclined to do.

Give this one to Trump for now unless he makes some serious mistakes as time goes on.

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    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “One thing is indisputable about Whitewater. Despite some fumbling and evasion, the Clinton Administration has been forthcoming compared to the Bush and Reagan Administrations. It called for an independent counsel, and every official asked to testify has done so.

      Compare Iran-contra: Five Reagan White House staff members refused to testify before the Congressional inquiries until they were given immunity from prosecution, and the Justice Department sabotaged the special prosecutor by withholding evidence on "national security" grounds. Or Iraqgate: The Bush Administration covered up the record of its arms sales to Iraq before the Persian Gulf war.“

      .....you understand, this kind of thing has been going on for a long time. You have investigated the Clintons to death, and still cover up and obstruct for yourselves. That is lack of integrity, lack of honesty and we the people deserve so much better.

      And we are going to get it.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I’m not talking about media matters! I’m talking about myself hearing him say it on the radio.

      And his claptrap about feminism is juvenile.

      Here it is in a nutshell:

      The ability to control our own lives. Is that so hard to comprehend?

      Rush speaks of women as if they are children who need big daddy Rush to explain things to them. Uh, no we don’t.

      And what would you call his ideology, that calls a woman a sl*t for using birth control? Man-Nazi?

      He’s an idiot. His first wife said he was a lazy bum who smoked weed and watched football all day on the couch.

      Oh, and I know you heard the rumors about him. Too bad no one on radio was constantly making insinuations about him.

      He derserves it, tho. In a just world, we’d hear about it no end.

      Oh yeah, that’s another one he floated: Hillary is a lesbian. SUCH intellectual stimulation, eh?

      Barf

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “Wealthiest GOP Donor In Ohio Quits Party: ‘I Won’t Support This Nonsense Anymore’“

      Dats it. When the money goes, it’s ovah.

      Yes, the end is nigh. And this ridiculous and horrifying nonsense will be done.

      And Rush never said that intellectual crap on the radio. He just said femi nazi. Doesn’t take a genius to know what it means.

      And, he slammed the Clintons, the Obama’s....”Moochelle” was his. He’s a hater and always has been and those who secretly hate love him.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      2 years ago from now on

      Leslie, bless your heart, but I have listened to Rush most everyday for 25 years - it’s obvious you have never listened to his show. Foster, feminazi these are media matters made up blurbs. They constantly take things Rush says out of context or twists them so people like you can find gratification for your hatred.

      In the case of Vince Foster even Medis matters doesn’t say Rush said Hiliary killed Vince Foster, they say he insinuated it.

      “On the September 19 and 20 broadcasts of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh resurrected his scurrilous suggestion that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) had then-deputy White House counsel Vincent Foster murdered while she was first lady. Media Matters for America has documented previous instances (here and here) of Limbaugh insinuating that the Clintons were involved in the death of Foster, who committed suicide in Northern Virginia's Fort Marcy Park on July 20, 1993.”

      If you go to the “here” links of previous incidents they lead you to nothing saying or insinuating Clinton killed Foster. Believe me if Rush ever said that you’d find it in multiple places on the internet but there is nothing.

      On the other hand you can find dozens of other people who even say Hiliary did it.

      The term ‘feminazi’ emerged in the

      1990’s, as popularized (and possibly created) by Rush Limbaugh, to refer to a particular type of “extreme” feminist (namely, pro-choice activists).

      If you ever listened to Rush you’d understand how his feelings about feminists are universal. Here is an excerpt of him talking to a caller who calls herself an x feminazi!

      “I have observed that the modern era of feminism in my life began when I was 18.

      I'll never forget my first taste of it. I was in high school, and I ran into some woman -- a girl -- who had become aware of, quote, unquote, "women's lib," and started living it and preaching it and talking about it. I had no idea it was going on. It was my first exposure to it, and then I became sensitive to it and aware of it -- and my whole young, virile manhood was totally affected by this, and not in a positive way. Women became... Ugh.

      That's not my point. My point is you're right, and it's stunning to me what women -- a lot of women, particularly university-educated women -- have been taught to literally have a visceral hatred for men. The reason why this is so conflicting with me is because when I was growing up and where I grew up, women were on pedestals. We respected them; we cherished them; we pursued them; we chased them; we wooed them.

      We didn't hate them! We didn't mistreat them. We didn't treat them as second-class citizens. And then here comes feminism, and it's turning all of them into these angry people who think we, men, are the biggest enemies, that their husbands become brutal child predators and so forth. I'm saying, "What in the world is happening?" How can such a large group of human beings -- women -- be converted en masse into such hateful people? And it's the educational system that did it.

      You've got women like Catharine MacKinnon teaching women's studies at the University of Michigan telling them that all sex is rape, even the sex of marriage -- and they're buyin' it, and they're believing it. What do you think it's gonna turn them into? My point is that my life experience growing up and even into my young adulthood, twenties and thirties, was never to look at women the way they were being told I did look at them. And I can't tell you how frustrating it was. It still is!”

      I’d give you the whole conversation but I know you won’t read it.

      So Leslie, bless your heart, we pray one day you will grow up.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      I answered your comments, and this is what you give in return?

      You didn't even try.

      You win, you don't want to or can't answer my questions.

      These are valid questions.

      I will not respond to your comments until you answer them.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Brad, you need to ask yourself questions, then answer them. Maybe then youll be satisfied.

      Ive made myself clear. If you don't get it, not my problem.

      Oh, and i owe you nothing.

      Read some history on the Iran Contra affair.

      You are barking up the wrong tree.

      Enjoy the take down of this crime syndicate....I certainly will.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      1. Since feb of 2017, my paycheck has dropped dramatically. I must be one of the 10% who got a tax increase.....and I’m not rich!

      B:

      Why did your paycheck drop? And how was it anything caused by president Trump?

      -----------------------

      2. The price of gas has gone up. Now, instead of buying $10, it has to be $15...$20 has to be $30, etc etc, And since Trump blamed Obama for gas prices, I feel free to blame Dump.

      B:

      Feeling free is not the same thing as actually showing president Trump did anything to cause it.

      In Ca the democrats raised our gas taxes, and our vehicle registrations. That is a direct connection to higher gas prices and the Jerry Brown democrats.

      What is your connection in higher gas prices to president Trump?

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      3. I have 3 daughters, of pregnancy age. Should one of them want an abortion, I’ll be damned if mr cheating on wife is going to punish them.

      B:

      What has changed, except maybe you won't get free abortions?

      Roe v Wade is still in force.

      And maybe you ought to blame your daughters if they get pregnant.

      -------------------------

      4. He’s kissing butt of evangelicals. If Kav gets to Supreme Court, my daughters rights will be stripped from them faster than you cons load a gun.

      B:

      Even if true how is that personal to you.

      Again, it is congress that makes the law, but why do you think you need to get free abortions, for an event that hasn't even taken place.

      ------------------------------------------

      LM

      now you are leaving the realm of how Trump did something personal to you.

      5. My choice for prez was Hillary Clinton, whom he continually maligns as crooked. His rallies are berserk feasts of “lock her up”. Id like to smack him.

      B:

      emotion not facts.

      ------------------------

      He calls dems stupid, unamerican and says they can’t think. That’s my mom he’s talking about.

      B:

      When did he say that? I might have said that.

      -------------------------

      He maligns women, and I am one. I’m also a mother, and can imagine my babies being taken and placed who knows where and for what.

      B:

      He didn't malign you.

      And again, no facts to back you up.

      --------------------------------------------

      He’s cruel, selfish and dangerous to humanity. And I’m human.

      B:

      Once again not factual and not personal.

      -------------------------------------------

      Need more?

      I don’t like orange skin.

      B:

      You are a racist!

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      I like cnn.

      B:

      Just don't proselytize it

      ---------------------

      I don’t think reporters are enemies of the people

      B:

      Why not?

      Again not personal to you.

      ---------------------

      I’ll save the real hate if and when I find out the real bad things I’ve heard.

      B:

      Tattle tale

      Anything factual? probably not

      ---------------

      He is also going to hurt my mother with his Medicare and social security gutting. And we all know it’s to pay for his own tax cut.

      B:

      Again, this is the job of the congress, not Trump.

      Going to isn't the same as has hurt.

      ---------------------------------

      Flippin thief.

      B:

      Why?

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      LM

      Thank you for the effort!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Ermmm. I listened to Limbaugh during that time, and yes he said it. Did you listen then?

      Which is why I’m stumped at the outrage if I call Trump a Nazi.

      You forget Rush saying feminazi since 1991!

      Yes. He said Clinton’s had Foster killed. He said Clinto was a draft dodger and philanderer in Chief. Does he say that about Trump?

      Oh nooooooooooo.

      Just remember. Next time you holyrollers want to call a woman sl*t for using birth control......you support a draft dodging philanderer in chief.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Lol, it’s never good enough for you, is it, Brad? Ok

      1. Since feb of 2017, my paycheck has dropped dramatically. I must be one of the 10% who got a tax increase.....and I’m not rich!

      2. The price of gas has gone up. Now, instead of buying $10, it has to be $15...$20 has to be $30, etc etc, And since Trump blamed Obama for gas prices, I feel free to blame Dump.

      3. I have 3 daughters, of pregnancy age. Should one of them want an abortion, I’ll be damned if mr cheating on wife is going to punish them.

      4. He’s kissing butt of evangelicals. If Kav gets to Supreme Court, my daughters rights will be stripped from them faster than you cons load a gun.

      5. My choice for prez was Hillary Clinton, whom he continually maligns as crooked. His rallies are berserk feasts of “lock her up”. Id like to smack him.

      He calls dems stupid, unamerican and says they can’t think. That’s my mom he’s talking about.

      He maligns women, and I am one. I’m also a mother, and can imagine my babies being taken and placed who knows where and for what.

      He’s cruel, selfish and dangerous to humanity. And I’m human.

      Need more?

      I don’t like orange skin.

      I like cnn.

      I don’t think reporters are enemies of the people.

      I’ll save the real hate if and when I find out the real bad things I’ve heard.

      He is also going to hurt my mother with his Medicare and social security gutting. And we all know it’s to pay for his own tax cut.

      Flippin thief.

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      The Logician 

      2 years ago from now on

      Leslie, bless your heart, “Wasn’t just rush saying it?” He never said it - nice try at diverting from the truth- what others say has nothing to do with what Rush didn’t say now does it. you really are a piece of work,

      How about answering Brad’s question?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      "The question is

      What has the Trump presidency actually done to YOU personally that evokes your hatred towards him?"

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Bless your heart t , ‘‘twasnt only Rush saying it

      https://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/05/opinion/abroad-...

      ‘‘Twas all of the right wing, who used our gvt to go after them. Just like your tea party did these past years. It’s a never ending boogywoman for them. Like I said, it’s been going on for 30+ years. And Ive read it all.

      And I guess you forget, I used to listen to ole blubberbutt. From the start. You remember Femi Nazi, don’t you?

      But it was his hatred of Bill Clinton that made me turn him off. And yes, he claimed Bill and Hillary had Foster killed. Probably still does.

      He also said “he’s not MY president”, and called him the “ draft-dodging, pot-smoking philanderer -in chief”

      So, this silly claim that we “ must respect Trump” is ridiculous.

      Cons never respected Clintons, never respected Obama.

      If you want a new paradigm, it starts with you. We’re just living yours.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      1. Demeans women

      2. Demeans blacks

      3. Demeans mexicans

      4. Demeans Democrats.AS the president! Says they don’t love America!!!

      5. Dehumanizes Muslims

      6. Makes fun of disability

      7. He admires dictators and thugs

      8. He thinks he’s perfect, can do no wrong

      9. Won’t admit mistakes

      10. Conspired with Russia

      11. Obstructed Justice

      12. Is using the office to enrich his business

      13. Is caging children

      14. Is stealing children from their parents

      15. Is sending them to donors detention centers, where they get $770.00 per night, per child.

      16. He retweet’s white power crap

      17. He spouts white power crap

      18. He’s involved in the Russian mob

      19. He is the chief Birther in the USA

      20. He stills called for innocent black men’s deaths, after they were exonerated

      21. He’s a neocon

      22. Moving embassy to Jerusalem

      23. Taking the aide away from Palestinians

      24. Removing the Iran deal

      25, gutting the EPA

      26. Giving away public lands to industry. Sacred lands!

      27. Lying everyday on purpose

      28. Demonizing peaceful protest

      29. Bullying and threatening the Republican Party

      30. Thinks he can escape justice because he’s king err, I mean pres err, I mean GOD

      All bow to the god man Trump

      https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/18060712254...

      ********

      This is off the top of my head. I don’t really want to go down the rabbit hole, because it involves really horrible stuff.

      Suffice it to say, he is NOT presidential material, America is not a corporation, might does not make right, and I do not wish to live in Gilead.

      Was that clear enough, or do you still not get it?

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      I am going to ask one last question, it is one that I have previously asked a long time ago.

      Hopefully this time you will answer it directly and truthfully.

      The question is

      What has the Trump presidency actually done to you that evokes your hatred towards him?

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      The Logician 

      2 years ago from now on

      “Rush Limbaugh claimed Clintons killed Vince Foster. Same as the mini Rushbos of 2018 claim Hillary and Obama killed Ambassador Stevens”

      Lies, Leslie, bless her heart, got that from media matters who always lies about what Rush says and those who follow media matters like zombies never check what they say against the actual show tape.

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      You are so far away from reality we will need a seance to contact you.

      What is it that you want, and why do you want it!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      No, it points out the ridiculous ruse cons use to demonize Clinton’s. Here’s one for you. It’s why I don’t believe any right Winger. Because if they’ll lie about one thing, you can’t trust any other. Rush Limbaugh claimed Clintons killed Vince Foster. Same as the mini Rushbos of 2018 claim Hillary and Obama killed Ambassador Stevens. You’ll find that the real perpetraitors are the ones pointing fingers:

      http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/CN/cn12-42.txt

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      This snopes link contains nothing but the reported deaths of the long list of dead people. How does that factually dispute they could have been killed?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      Snopes, are you kidding, they lost their credibility when their owners divorced!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Not my words, Snopes. And heres more....debunkig what weve heard for 30 some years:

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bag...

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      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      LM- not sure who you're quoting when you put quotation marks on the word "free"?? I also never said she volunteered to represent him, she says she didn't, but who knows for sure? Maybe she did. No one ever interviewed the judge that she said appointed her to the case and he's likely long dead by now. Most importantly to your comment "she didn't laugh." Yes she did. Listen to the audio. That's a fact. Just as surely as Sara laughed when God said she would have a child, Hillary laughed. It was cold and eerie how she laughed, but worse is the fact that it doesn't bother you or that you deny it.

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      T

      It is really difficult to get any facts about anything when the left controls the media.

      To be fair, this Impeachment stuff went on with the Republicans.

      It proves that neither party has any idea what the 25th amendment is for. Both parties want to use it as a political hammer. This is especially true when the president keeps reminding them of how badly they lost the election.

      In that aspect the democrats excel at the hammer called the 25th amendments. Even John McCain didn't do what the democrats are doing against Trump.

      Unless the crimes committed by a sitting president can meet the real requirements of the 25th amendment, the America Way to resolve the issue is to wait until the next election and do your best to get control.

      The democrats couldn't wait until the inauguration to start the talk about Impeachment. I even think it started the day after the election.

      And finally,

      " Barack Obama is the only president since Nixon who didn't have to deal with an independent investigation.

      Former presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, and Gerald Ford all faced investigations into their activities or the activities of their associates.

      The observation comes as President Donald Trump is under investigation, along with his closest associates, as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russia's interference in the 2016 election."

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      The Logician 

      2 years ago from now on

      Brad, it’s people like Leslie, bless her heart, that the left target with misinformation knowing they don’t care about the facts, they just need something they can mindlessly Incorporate into their talking points. That’s why they produce fake news and misleading headlines. They know people like leslie don’t read past the headline and even if they do they aren’t looking for the truth. It’s a win/win for the left.

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      What is the difference between a terrorist and you, when both of you share the same goal?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      "6 Trump aides use private servers, after calling it a crime

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/...

      B:

      Do you even read these links?

      Even the author sets out the differences between Hillary and them.

      Hillary was secretary of state?

      She used her private unprotected email server as her only email access as she didn't use or have any of the protected government servers that the State Department. She chose to use her private server to be protected from FOIA as mention in the article.

      They weren't under investigation by congress, and once again, Hillary destroyed the evidence sought by the subpoena. They also didn't use Bleach Bit to ensure that deletions couldn't be recovered.

      And who is Colin Powell that she takes his advice. And I believe Colin Powell had a different version of that story.

      In 2020 why don't you write her name in the ballot.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yes, you are wasted on me. I can’t anymore with a Trump supporter. I consider you all enemies of humanity. Keep up the bashing of a gramma who’s out of office. I’m working to get don the con out. SEEYA.

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      "Those emails were marked little “c”, and she took them to mean confidential, not classified.

      B:

      You didn't even get her lie, she didn't think they meant classified at all. This is the woman that president Obama said was the most qualified president candidate.

      Even your little c is outdated. The inspector general not the media investigated the emails and found many to be classified and above.

      Why did she delete over 30,000 emails while under a subpoena duces tecum, They didn't let Michael Cohen even delete attorney client privilege emails.

      Then she bleached bit the drives, that is obstruction of justice, and don't say she wasn't charged because Comey lied when he said they couldn't charge her.

      There is more, but it is wasted on you.

      She lied to congress she lied to the people and she didn't have to lie to the FBI because they never really investigated her.

      BTW how did all the deleted Hillary emails get on Anthony Weiner's computer?

      ------------------------------------

      Unlike the material Trump shared with Lavrov and Kysliak"

      B:

      Who,What, When pick one

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      6 Trump aides use private servers, after calling it a crime

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/...

      Colin Powell advised Hillary to use private server

      https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-08/co...

      *******

      WHEN ARE THE HEARINGS???

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Those emails were marked little “c”, and she took them to mean confidential, not classified.

      Unlike the material Trump shared with Lavrov and Kysliak.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      What lie? What did she lie about? I don’t read World Net Daily.

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      Hillary lied to the people, and she lied to the FBI, and there is proof, evidence. The emails!

      Are you seriously going to compare Hillary Clinton's crime under Federal USC 18, to allegations that don't even involve criminal state, or local law?

      Your deflection has no substance, no facts, and no evidence and it was not part of any investigation.

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      The Logician 

      2 years ago from now on

      Leland that is pretty disgusting stuff by Hiliary, but what wouldn’t you expect from someone who flunked the DC law bar and had to go to Arkansas so she could pass theirs.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      And here’s the debunking:

      Hillary Clinton did not volunteer to be the defendant's lawyer, she did not laugh about the case's outcome, she did not assert that the complainant "made up the rape story," she did not claim she knew the defendant to be guilty, and she did not "free" the defendant.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-...

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      PerryA

      I have reread your article, and my question is why would a democrat controlled congress impeach Trump using the 25th amendment, but a republican controlled congress wouldn't impeachment under the 25th?

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      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      Did Hillary Clinton lie to the people when she said she didn't not send or receive classified information on her private, unprotected server when she was sec of state?

      Yes, she lied during her presidential campaign as well about these classified documents.

      These emails were found by the Inspector General during his investigation, and these are facts, as well as evidence of her federal crime.

      What evidence or facts do you have on president Trump?

      end of story!

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      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1982+audio+re...

      This is the video of Clinton spinning on how she didn't want to represent the rapist, but did anyway because she had no choice.

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      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      Here are the links to the tapes, videos you SAY were debunked for whoever wants to check them out. What you said was false.

      https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=1982+audio+re...

      Here's the video of her spinning how she didn't want to represent the rapist, but she did anyway. The above link is audio of her describing the details of the case and laughing about how she had the rapist take a lie detector test, which he passed, "Which forever destroyed my faith in lie detectors" Clinton says chuckling. These are facts, not blind, baseless accusations.

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      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      Clinton had been president for 6 years before he was impeached- yes impeached after looking American right in the face and lying, "I did not have a relationship with that woman." No Bill, I suppose technically what you did with a 21 year old intern would not qualify as a relationship.

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      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      "forever my opinion", I can't picture myself saying that because it would mean I am completely unreasonable. What if I got new evidence about an issue, should I maintain my old opinion even when it's proven false? No, my opinion will change as new light is shed on a particular issue, whatever it may be.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yup. You think Hillary is guilty and Trump innocent. I just the opposite.

      That video you speak of has been debunked. As has Fostergate, Pizzagate, Benghazigate and emailgate.

      Clinton’s have been smeared by rightwingers since he ran for guv in Arkansas.....one of the first was Mellon-Scaithe. Should sound familiar to you Cheney fans.

      And yes Clinton was a dog with women. But none of them charged him nor went to court, or did they?

      Trump has been accused, and there was a suit filed. She says she dropped it because he threatened her life and her family. Russian mobsters do that. Do you believe that? Do you believe the 19 women that came forward?

      Clinton made a public apology and was put on trial for impeachment. What has happened to Trump? Nada. And you know why? Repubs in charge, that’s why.

      And I’m not buying the Hillary hate. It’s all lies and right wing active measures, but it gives you all an excuse to justify the hate.

      So much so that you all don’t care that Russia hacked. Putin means more to you all than fellow Americans who are dems. And there is NO going back from that.

      So spare us the patriot speeches. It’s all moot now. Forever.

      My opinion.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      PerryA

      Cheating doesn't make your point.

    • Ken Burgess profile image

      Ken Burgess 

      2 years ago from Florida

      "Lol. We do not even exist in the same reality. Everything, and I mean everything you just wrote is a lie to me."

      That says it all, doesn't it?

    • Leland Johnson profile image

      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      One of my many problems with Hillary Clinton is that she bragged about getting a rapist off the hook on a technicality. There is audio footage of her on the internet of her giving an interview and actually chuckling about it. In 2016 (or possibly 2015) she did an interview about the case, you can look it up, where she hemmed and hawed about how she "had" to take the case, but she has no good reason as to why she laughed about keeping a rapist out of jail, a man who brutally raped a 13 year old child- that child, now an adult obviously, sat in the front row of one of the Trump/Clinton debates along with other women Hillary's husband had sexually assaulted. Why has the "Me Too" movement not called out Bill Clinton, himself a sexual predator? The Clintons are American royalty to some and I suppose that's hard to look at or admit for people who think that way. Facts are facts though. It isn't baseless dislike for Hillary that plagues conservatives. There are lots of reasons to dislike her. Will you consider them honestly and objectively?

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      What crime?

      What corruption?

      What anything has she done?

      Sanders tried that gig. He kept calling her corrupt, Wall Street puppet etc.

      So she asked him, “what policy or vote did I ever make to favor Wall Street?

      Sanders answer? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      Same with any Hillary hater. “Why do you hate her so much?”.....well....well.....I just do”

      And as far as the fbi.

      Fbi is trumpland. Parts of it. The New York field office pals of Guiliani. They went after Clinton based on the Schweitzer book Clinton Cash. That book also is the basis for the movie involved in the Citizens United case.

      Schweitzer: Clinton Cash

      Bossie: Citizens United

      Mercer: funded the Clinton Cash movie. Hates the Clintons.

      And all 3 were involved in Trumps campaign!

      ......and Shweitzer wrote for Breitbart site on the internet.

      And Breitbart was started with Netanyahu’s help.

      And Netanyahu is alleged to have sent Orly Taitz here from Russia to give Obama a hard time.

      You wanna talk dirty trix? Let’s go.

      And go back and read your words. You said Doj and fbi obstructed Justice WITH Hillary Clinton.

      You only changed it around when asked for details.

      Lock Her Up derangement syndrome. It’s an epidemic.

      Perrya......you should read Trumps past. He’s been involved with Russia for 30 years. He’s courting Vladimir, and using the whole of USA to do it. The hell with us, what’s in it for him..imo

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      2 years ago

      As smart as Trump is, I am sure he wants to win over Putin in some business way just in case he is not reelected in 2020. It is on his back burner, no doubt.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      And don't forget the FBI!

      That was the reason that Rod Rosenstein fired Director James Comey.

      Obstruction of Justice wasn't one of Hillary's Crimes. The obstruction was made by those that made the decision not to indict her after citing that she had done all the elements of the crime.

      And don't forget the FBI!

      That was the reason that Rod Rosenstein fired Director James Comey.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      What obstruction of justice by Obama, Hillary and the DOJ?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      Why is what I said a lie?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Lol. We do not even exist in the same reality. Everything, and I mean everything you just wrote is a lie to me.

      And btw, it is Republican Congress, Republican House, fbi is Trumpland that is running the show now and was running it then.

      Congress is running interference for and protecting Trump. Don’t think Mueller doesn’t have all the receipts.

      He is being investigated for conspiracy and obstruction of justice.

      Of course, We saw it with our own eyes....but in matters of this weight, every t must be crossed.

      Oh, and trump adm is using apps to encrypt their work.......hiding it from we the people. Jared and Ivanka used private servers.

      Trumps a cheat, a liar and he wanted Marla to have an abortion.

      Nothing about him is real.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      What I am saying is that a corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI obstructed justice with Hillary Clinton. And that is why they have been rooted out and being investigated.

      There is and was sufficient evidence of crimes by Hillary, and top management in the intelligence agencies.

      What crime is Trump being investigated by Mueller? And what evidence has he found his investigation. None!

      And there appears to be one rule for a guilty Hillary and a different one for an innocent Trump.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Hmmmm, no indictments on Hillary either. Yet plenty of Trumpsters call her a corrupt criminal.

      Are you saying there is one rule for you, one rule for others?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      PerryA

      Any talk about Russians and Trump is premature until the investigation is done.

      B:

      What investigation? Investigating what?

      I hear the fat lady warming up, the opera is ending?

      No indictments on Trump!

      -----------------------------------

      Everyone has an opinion. But, a rational person can see why Trump has been easy on Putin,

      B:

      There is evidence and facts to prove your statement wrong.

      Even the Russians are complaining about president Trump's sanction on Russian, and his opposition to them in Syria and Iran.

      What facts do you have to even suggest that president Trump has been easy on Putin. You brought is up, can you support that statement?

      -----------------------------------

      however, that will change if they and the Iranians battle to Idlib.

      B:

      Change from what to what?

      ------------------------------------

      Putin may test Trumps resolve. Prior to that, Trump really wanted to have a Trump tower in Moscow in 2012 or so, and Putin seemed to not have approved it. Trump is wearing two hats- being president and his business. It is not a far stretch to see why Trump wants to be on good terms with Putin.

      B:

      Trump picked the presidency over the Tower. Get over it.

      Where are you getting this information about "good terms"?

      Once again, where are your examples of president Trump being easy on Russia or Putin?

      --------------------------------------------

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      2 years ago

      Any talk about Russians and Trump is premature until the investigation is done. Everyone has an opinion. But, a rational person can see why Trump has been easy on Putin, however, that will change if they and the Iranians battle to Idlib. Putin may test Trumps resolve. Prior to that, Trump really wanted to have a Trump tower in Moscow in 2012 or so, and Putin seemed to not have approved it. Trump is wearing two hats- being president and his business. It is not a far stretch to see why Trump wants to be on good terms with Putin.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Leslie

      These are not responses to my comments.

      You are talking to yourself!

      Have fun in the woods!

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “Trump’s son, son-in-law, and campaign manager all participated in a meeting they were told was part of a secret Kremlin plot to influence the election to help him.

      That is criminal conspiracy in violation of law.”

      The Russian gvt was helping Trump win.

      First they changed the Republican platform to favor Russia, then Trump allowed Russian spies back in America, then Trump halted the sanctions.

      Flynn has admitted to speaking to Kysliak about removing them.

      Trump said in Helsinki that he believes Putin, not our intel.

      That is called aiding and abetting an enemy.

      And I know Trumpists don’t consider hacking the dnc a crime.

      But they do:

      “The Democratic National Committee filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit Friday against the Russian government, the Trump campaign and the WikiLeaks organization alleging a far-reaching conspiracy to disrupt the 2016 campaign and tilt the election to Donald Trump.”

      See, it’s not collusion, it’s conspiracy. That is the legal term for it.

      And deny it all you want. We all saw it. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you find those emails.”

      I know, with the right wing warm and fuzzy feelings for Hillary.....just what would have happened if she had said “Iran, if you’re listening, I hope you find those tax returns.”

      If her daughter and campaign manager met with an Iranian spy, and if her campaign met numerous times with Iran gvt officials during the campaign......

      We all know what the outcome would be.

      What we have here is another Teflon Don. And you know how that story ended eventually.

      We can wait. When the end comes, it’s going to be a doozy. And these punks will pay for stealing from the American people what is rightfully theirs.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      LM

      "Bob Woodward Warns ‘People Better Wake Up to What’s Going On’ In Trump’s Administration - “

      Looking at you, Repubs in Congress. Trump supporters are not listening.

      B:

      What?

      ------------------------

      And Brad, plenty of people feel this election was stolen.

      B:

      President Obama told candidate Donald Trump that the election couldn't be rigged.

      -------------------------------

      We already know Putin hacked into many states

      B:

      We don't know anything of the kind!

      Where did you get that idea?

      ----------------------------------

      , not just the dnc.

      B:

      There has been no evidence concerning the DNC, as they have refused the any US government agencies from access for their servers.

      -----------------------------------

      Kobach was throwing voters off the rolls if they had the same names: crosscheck. Facebook was workin* with Cambridge Analytica to spread pro Trump, pro Sanders and anti Clinton propaganda. And all of the pre and exit polls had her ahead.

      B:

      Polls are not evidence of any kind. actually looking at the voting records is the best evidence.

      ------------------------

      I don’t think they were all wrong. Plus she won the popular vote. Honestly, if this had happened to a man, it wouldn’t be taken so lightly.

      B:

      You realize you can't keep using the 3 million votes and talk about Kobach was throwing voters off the rolls if they had the same names: crosscheck. Facebook was workin* with Cambridge Analytica to spread pro Trump, pro Sanders and anti Clinton propaganda.

      ___________________________

      And look. The majority do not like his policies. It’s about 26% that are pro Trump all the way.

      B:

      What majority? What policies?

      ---------------------------------------

      It makes no sense. And I for one do not believe there were “a lot of dems who voted Trump”

      B:

      What doesn't make sense is when you say she had 3 million more votes than Trump, and then you say Putin rigged the election in favor of Trump. What is more logical is that the one that had the more votes was more likely the one that was benefited by Putin.

      And Hillary couldn't even beat Sanders in the primary. One person running against her, and Trump beat 16 of the best that the republicans had against him. You know that if Sanders hadn't been persuaded to drop out, it would have been a close democrat primary.

      ----------------------

      I reject the legitimacy of this election, and I’m not alone.

      B:

      You don't like the result but that isn't the same thing as a legal opinion of a federal court. No laws were broken by Trump and no charges were even leveled against him, much less an indictment.

      ------------------------------

      Now go ahead and say that’s not an answer.

      B:

      What did your opinion answer, nothing it was an unfounded opinion not in fact.

      -------------------------------

      I googled myself. There are 73 people with my name. All of us could be thrown off rolls.

      Multiply that by thousands."

      B:

      Multiply it by tens of thousands, and tell us how did gave Hillary 3 million more votes than Trump?

      Once again, if anyone was trying to rig the election, it would be logical to look at someone that had 3 million more votes than the other candidate.

      ----------------------------------

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Bob Woodward Warns ‘People Better Wake Up to What’s Going On’ In Trump’s Administration - “

      Looking at you, Repubs in Congress. Trump supporters are not listening.

      And Brad, plenty of people feel this election was stolen. We already know Putin hacked into many states, not just the dnc. Kobach was throwing voters off the rolls if they had the same names: crosscheck. Facebook was workin* with Cambridge Analytica to spread pro Trump, pro Sanders and anti Clinton propaganda. And all of the pre and exit polls had her ahead. I don’t think they were all wrong. Plus she won the popular vote. Honestly, if this had happened to a man, it wouldn’t be taken so lightly.

      And look. The majority do not like his policies. It’s about 26% that are pro Trump all the way.

      It makes no sense. And I for one do not believe there were “a lot of dems who voted Trump”

      I reject the legitimacy of this election, and I’m not alone.

      Now go ahead and say that’s not an answer.

      I googled myself. There are 73 people with my name. All of us could be thrown off rolls.

      Multiply that by thousands.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      PerryA

      Where do you stand of the NY Times Anonymous OPed that it should be used to Impeach President Trump using the 25th Amendment?

      Elizabeth Warren said she believes that it should be used to Impeach president Trump.

      What say you!

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Leslie

      "What’s the point? I answer, you say “that’s not an answer,”

      Been there, done that. Waaaaay too many times."

      My point is that you don't answer, you just write this kind of comment and try to blame me why you don't answer your own comments.

      For example, how did you answer this from my last comment to you?

      "And I really hate to burst the republican bubble, but plenty of people do not consider this a legitimate election.

      B:

      What is the basis for not considering the sitting president of the US Donald Trump as the De jure President. Who is your president in Boston, one of the original places for the founders of the US?

      ------------------------------"

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      What’s the point? I answer, you say “that’s not an answer,”

      Been there, done that. Waaaaay too many times.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Leslie

      Why didn't respond to my comments that were commenting on your comments?

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      We are not dying, we are transforming.

      The long road of fascist control is coming to a head.

      Began with the assasinations of Kennedy, King, Kennedy and X.

      Our hope for true coming together was shattered by bullets from a gun.

      The monied/crime forces really took over then.

      MK Ultra, secret society bs rules.

      America's stated goals have been usurped, to make this place a haven for thieves.....of all classes, upper classes profitting the most.

      We are here to form a more perfect union, with liberty and justice for all.

      Not a den of thieves, where billionaires think they deserve to pay zero taxes.

      Take the wealth of a nation and hoard it for the 1%.

      Our corporate masters have a grip on our very soul.

      Trump is the culmination. Thieved into office by that criminal, monied class.

      And we shall see if We the People allow it.

    • Ken Burgess profile image

      Ken Burgess 

      2 years ago from Florida

      We are seeing insanity, truly, what we are seeing in our politics and our society is what happens when the insane gain control of the Asylum.

      Or more appropriately people who would have been snatched up and put into straight jackets, or thrown into handcuffs, are now leading the Democratic Party... they are leading the 'resistance' against the President, against Border Control, against the Police, against the Constitution.

      That we have lunatics in Congress that seem barely capable of stringing together coherent sentences screaming for Trump's head isn't half as shocking as the fact that we have a third of the country (it seems) willing to follow lunatics like Al Green and Pelosi and Waters.

      Anyone who is old enough to remember the relative peace, tranquility, and civility of politics in the 80s, 90s, and most of the 00s, has to be aware of how we really are heading into 'Death of a Nation' times.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      "Started as soon as he took office. Maxine Waters said she would do whatever it takes to impeach him. Now Elizabeth Warren is calling for the 25th amendment to be enacted."

      B:

      This is an answer.

      You make my point, you and your left wanted to impeach him for really just winning the election. And then when one attempt after another fails to impeach him you just invent one and continue.

      In the meantime, the left does nothing else, nothing for the country, and nothing for Americans. And they really are not doing something for the illegal aliens, it is just another attempt to impeach on a condition that has been around for decades. It is the problem of congress not writing the right immigration laws.

      ------------------------------

      And I really hate to burst the republican bubble, but plenty of people do not consider this a legitimate election.

      B:

      What is the basis for not considering the sitting president of the US Donald Trump as the De jure President. Who is your president in Boston, one of the original places for the founders of the US?

      ------------------------------

      And I’m more than certain, had Iran hacked the RNC, then Hillary asked them to find Trumps tax returns, impeachment hearings would be well underway.

      B:

      Really. Do you even know if the DNC was hacked?

      And what did that have to do with President Trump or even Donald Trump? Nothing!

      ---------------------------

      Kobach is being sued for throwing people off the rolls. And Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigation whether anyone in the Trump Organisation violated campaign finance laws.

      B:

      2 years later and Obama paid $375,000 for breaking campaigning finance laws, and he wasn't impeached. What is the difference?

      -------------------------------

      Not to mention Mueller.

      B:

      What would Mueller have to say? He has nothing about Trump and what does campaign finance have to do with Russian Trump collusion?

      ----------------------------------

      This is far from over. And we’re not rolling over. Not this time. You got Bush, but Trump is a whole other animal.

      B:

      Yes, Trump is better than the previous presidents of both parties. I wouldn't want to live on the difference between Bush and Obama, two worst presidents of this century.

      --------------------------------

      It will boil down to Republicans having had enough. The rest of us have long passed that point.

      Imo

      B:

      I don't even know what that means.

      So at the end of this comment how or why can president Donald Trump be impeached, much less removed from office.

      Bill Clinton did it in the WH, as president. What did president Trump do?

      -------------------------------

      Btw, I live in the Boston area. Here’s what a right wing talk jock said before Obama was even elected:

      “You have a job and I do too. My job, with your help, is to start today, or recommit today, with 29 days left in this campaign, to politically destroy Barack Obama. Our job is to undermine him in every possible legal way, to undermine his upcoming administration in advance, to destroy his ability to reach any governing majority, undermine and destroy his political ability to govern or to have any hope of a successful administration.

      B:

      That is one person in wacky Boston, the impeachment effort against Trump is all those on the left.

      ------------------------------------

      We must do this because a Successful Barack Obama administration equals socialism, our government being soft on terrorism, the UN running the defense of our country, our doom as a nation....

      What’s your job, what can you do? Join me! Start the 2012 campaign right now. If we can’t impeach Obama then let’s throw him out at the earliest possible moment and that means start stopping Obama now. An attack campaign against Obama is worthy of the timeless principals of all American patriots. Obama is King George and we are the minutemen, and women. The United States of America will be saved only by us, and only by us opposing Obama and everything he represents. That is our duty.

      B:

      One person one opinion. What else do you have to offer?

      How many republicans in congress did that for Obama and then look at how many democrats in congress have been doing it for almost 2 years and still continue, one false attempt after another.

      ----------------------

      Jay Severin.

      But of course, when we feel this way about Trump, we are portrayed as being unfair.

      Wrong. We are fighting for America.

      B:

      Once again, one person against Obama, and thousands against Trump.

      And what are you fighting for in America. Illegal aliens, how does that help America and Americans. Giving sanctuary to Convicted Illegal Alien Felons to stop them from being deported according to the current and existing immigration laws? How does that make America safe?

      What else is the left doing for America?

      At least you tried this time, but you only answered how long, but not anything that is impeachable.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Btw, I live in the Boston area. Here’s what a right wing talk jock said before Obama was even elected:

      “You have a job and I do too. My job, with your help, is to start today, or recommit today, with 29 days left in this campaign, to politically destroy Barack Obama. Our job is to undermine him in every possible legal way, to undermine his upcoming administration in advance, to destroy his ability to reach any governing majority, undermine and destroy his political ability to govern or to have any hope of a successful administration.

      We must do this because a Successful Barack Obama administration equals socialism, our government being soft on terrorism, the UN running the defense of our country, our doom as a nation....

      What’s your job, what can you do? Join me! Start the 2012 campaign right now. If we can’t impeach Obama then let’s throw him out at the earliest possible moment and that means start stopping Obama now. An attack campaign against Obama is worthy of the timeless principals of all American patriots. Obama is King George and we are the minutemen, and women. The United States of America will be saved only by us, and only by us opposing Obama and everything he represents. That is our duty.

      >>>

      Jay Severin.

      But of course, when we feel this way about Trump, we are portrayed as being unfair.

      Wrong. We are fighting for America.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Started as soon as he took office. Maxine Waters said she would do whatever it takes to impeach him. Now Elizabeth Warren is calling for the 25th amendment to be enacted.

      And I really hate to burst the republican bubble, but plenty of people do not consider this a legitimate election.

      And I’m more than certain, had Iran hacked the RNC, then Hillary asked them to find Trumps tax returns, impeachment hearings would be well underway.

      Kobach is being sued for throwing people off the rolls. And Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigation whether anyone in the Trump Organisation violated campaign finance laws.

      Not to mention Mueller.

      This is far from over. And we’re not rolling over. Not this time. You got Bush, but Trump is a whole other animal.

      It will boil down to Republicans having had enough. The rest of us have long passed that point.

      Imo

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      2 years ago

      Trump is our president. He did win. Many don't like him personally, his character is not presidential for sure. His economic recovery began on the Obama recovery and now the baton was given him. So far so good. But, only delusional people will believe the 25th Amendment can be used to dump trump. At least not now, if the Dems control things after November, one can see the attempt, but it is such a looooong shot. Impeaching is not much easier. So, that only leaves things like assassination or terror attack.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      PerryA

      This is your article. Maybe you can help Leslie answer the simple question? When did the left start talking impeachment of Donald Trump, and what were the reasons, or articles of Impeachment that they would submit under the guise of the 25th Amendment?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Leslie

      Well, you cant really call it impeaching, when hes not legit.

      B:

      If he is not the president of the United States of America since January 20, 2018 then who is the president?

      ---------------------------------

      More and more, i keep remembering those dulcet tones....."Russia, if you're listening" ......"Oh Russia!"....."Oh Russia!"......and i swear to god, it reminds me of that scene in The Sound of Music when the nun and the Captain are running towards each other in love......but Putin swerves, says "Syke!", and leaves Trump to rot away in a mental institution......cant get it out of my head!

      B:

      When you do maybe you can answer my original question. So far two deflections. When did the left start talking impeachment of president Donald Trump?

      -----------------------

      And the rest of his life, Donald is mumbling "i thought he loved me, i thought he loved me"......sad.

      B:

      Three deflections and you are out? Maybe next year?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Well, you cant really call it impeaching, when hes not legit.

      More and more, i keep remembering those dulcet tones....."Russia, if you're listening" ......"Oh Russia!"....."Oh Russia!"......and i swear to god, it reminds me of that scene in The Sound of Music when the nun and the Captain are running towards each other in love......but Putin swerves, says "Syke!", and leaves Trump to rot away in a mental institution......cant get it out of my head!

      And the rest of his life, Donald is mumbling "i thought he loved me, i thought he loved me"......sad.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Leslie

      She is going to jail, yes your Queen is going to jail, and she is taking most of the resistance with her. She would not want to swing alone, she wants a swing party.

      Leslie

      Here is a homework assignment for you. How many days after Trump WON the presidency did the left start to talk about impeaching him, and for what?

      :)

      Leslie you don't see the difference between using the Oval Office as a Motel 6 by a sitting president, to no such acts by president Trump inside or outside of the WH?

      If you don't, then why not?

      And congress never removed president Bill Clinton!

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      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      No, it won’t happen because Republicans control all branches of gvt. If he was a democrat, he’d already be gone.

      At least they should hold hearings for lying about an affair, no?

      I mean, back in Clinton days, they said it wasn’t about the sex, it was about “the integrity of the office”

      Apparently, that only applies when it’s a democrat.

    • Leland Johnson profile image

      Leland Johnson 

      2 years ago from Midland MI

      It won't happen. You can't use the constitution as a bludgeon. President Trump has done nothing except be falsely accused of everything from Russian collusion to suppressing the media. What's next, he's responsible for the Lindbergh kidnapping?

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Oh I know. Anybody can make those mistakes. But they don’t have access to nuclear bombs!

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      2 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

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