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Proof That 9/11 Was An Inside Job - The Truth About The World Trade Center Attacks

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9/11 Was An Inside Job

9/11 was an inside job, and I intend to prove it to you. Usually, when someone starts to talk about how they think that 9/11 was a staged event or false flag operation, they are met with cries that they are nuts or worse.

Some even go as far as calling participants in the 9/11 truth movement domestic terrorists. However, I challenge you to investigate the evidence for yourself, because NOBODY believes the official story that was produced by the 9/11 commission.

In fact, a few members of the commission came out saying that they were met with opposition at every turn, and that they were censored and unable to properly perform their investigations.

What's so hard to believe about this? Our government and other governments from around the world have been performing and planning false flag or "black flag" operations for centuries. Much of this information is now declassified. In other words, we know these things to be fact.

Mohammed Atta
Mohammed Atta

The "Jihadists" Were CIA Assets

The "jihadists" that supposedly carried out these attacks were CIA assets. This is now declassified information. The CIA has admitted that Mohammed Atta and a few others were CIA assets.

Several of them, including Atta, had even received special U.S. military training. Atta, being a CIA asset would be under constant and secret surveillance.

Other CIA assets, including Susan Lindauer, have stated that it would have been utterly impossible for Atta and others to have been planning an attack of any kind without the CIA knowing about it.

Furthermore, Atta and others did not behave like Islamic fundamentalists. They were said to frequent bars and strip clubs. They chased women, and generally conducted themselves in ways that fundamentalist jihadists simply would not. If anything, Atta and friends were moderates - not fundamentalists intent on jihad.

The Design Of The Twin Towers

The twin World Trade Center towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts of the largest commercial airliners in production at the time - the Boeing 707.

The official story in the 9/11 Commission Report was that the towers would not have been brought down by the impact of the airliners alone (true), but that the collapse of the buildings was due to burning jet fuel that melted the steel infrastructure of the towers.

There are a few problems that I would like to point out with the official story right away:

  1. Jet fuel does not burn at a high enough temperature to melt construction grade steel. Jet A burns at about 350 C in an open air environment. It can get as hot as 980 C in a controlled and optimal environment. The WTC steel was tested by UL at 2,000 C, and it retained its specification. It is not likely that an open air burn for less than an hour would have caused enough deformation to result in collapse - nor would the burning Jet A have gotten hot enough to melt the steel. In fact many other steel buildings have burned for hours upon hours with only superficial damage. The WTC twin towers and WTC building 7 would be the first, second, and third steel buildings ever to collapse due to fire.
  2. The way the towers came down is consistent with a controlled demolition. Both towers fell into their own footprints at nearly free fall speeds. It simply does not make sense that the towers would have fallen through their own mass - through the path of highest resistance - unless the towers came down in a controlled demolition.

Many architects and physicists have gotten involved with the 9/11 truth movement for these very reasons. Too many experts simply cannot believe the official story.

I haven't even mentioned WTC building 7 yet, which also collapsed into its own footprint - even though it was not hit during the attacks. The evidence on building 7 alone is worth a separate article, so I will not cover it at this time.

Extreme Prejudice: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq
Extreme Prejudice: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq

This is Susan Lindauer's book that describes her unconstitutional detention under the Patriot Act, and the attempted cover ups of the truth about 9/11 and Iraq.

 
9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA, Fourth Edition
9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA, Fourth Edition

In 9/11 Synthetic Terror, author Webster Tarpley highlights the salient points of sheer physical impossibility of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory.

 

Why Would Our Government Do This or Let This Happen?

We can find at least one answer in a PNAC document authored by Thomas Donnelly, entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Section 5, "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" had this to say:

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor"

Black flags or false flag operations are being used today to get the people behind the government, when their government wants to go to war or take military actions unnecessarily. Again, this is nothing new. In fact, I'm not even scratching the surface on this.

As with many of the articles that I will write, the body of evidence cannot be completely summed up in just one article. Rather, I would like to point you in the right direction - to films and/or documents that cover the issues more thoroughly.

This way, you don't have to take me at my word. The documentaries or documents that I am going to point you to have been very useful in opening my eyes, and my hope is that they will do the same for you. Welcome to reality.

Loose Change - Final Cut (Full Length)

Former CIA asset, Susan Lindauer, Locked up under Patriot Act

Was 9/11 An Inside Job?

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      American Romance 5 years ago from America

      just goes to show how dishonest liberals are, We conservatives know beyond a shadow of doubt this wasn't done by our president, the fact you libs are so distrusting only proves you live dishonest lives!

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      Yes Dear 5 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Excellent hub. Keep it coming. Bob Kerry, who was on the commission, said maybe in 30 years we will know the truth....maybe it can happen sooner.

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      Mtbailz 5 years ago

      I enjoy your skeptical outlook Truth Please, but you've let it turn into paranoia. There is plenty of evidence supporting the argument that Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden were behind this attack.

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      Kristen Burns-Darling 5 years ago from Orange County, California

      As the daughter of a United States Marine, and a Navy wife, I know that those in charge only tell us what they want us to know, which leaves lots of wriggle room for the movers and shakers who wish to manipulate a situation, and for those who look to find the conspiracy. As a writer, I also understand how important it is that all sides be looked at and reported upon so that we have a well-rounded collective knowledge of all that goes on in our world. Kudos to you for a well-written look at one side of the argument! But, if I may, a friendly word of caution; It is very easy when researching a particular point of view to get a case of tunnel vision excluding all other theories and views. Regardless of which side of the argument you support, your presentation will suffer if you are unable to objectively view all sides. As Mtbailz said, there is also plenty of evidence supporting that Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden were behind 9-11. Voted up, useful and interesting.

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      Truth Please 5 years ago from Inside Your Head

      @American Romance - I'm not liberal in any sense. I'm a conservative. Haven't always been one, but I have been conservative since I found out what the real problems are that plague this country.

      @K. Burns Darling and Mtbailz - First off. I've seen most of the evidence of every viewpoint of 9/11, including the official 9/11 Commission Report. Can you say the same?

      Have you guys seen all of the evidence of the 9/11 Truth movement? Have you read the official story?

      Calling someone paranoid or a conspiracy nut or anything like that is an attempt to marginalize this viewpoint. It shows that you haven't done your own research about this.

      Some of the hijackers and Bin Laden WERE CIA assets. This is fact - not paranoia. Do your research!

      Secondly, the jihadists are only one very small piece of the body of evidence. Like I said in my article, I cannot even begin to scratch the surface on this.

      You need to research it yourselves. If you don't ask the tough questions, they will continue to get away with this kind of stuff.

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      Real truther 5 years ago

      "The twin World Trade Center towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts per building of the largest commercial airliners in production at the time - the Boeing 777."

      Actually, No. The 777 was first put into service in 1995. http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/backgro...

      Construction on the WTC was started in 1963. It was formally opened in 1973.

      http://www.skyscraper.org/TALLEST_TOWERS/t_wtc.htm

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      Real truther 5 years ago

      "We can find at least one answer in a government document authored by Thomas Donnelly, entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Section 5, "

      Actually, no. It's not a government document. PNAC is a 'think tank' funded by neoconservatives. They are not a government organization.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_A...

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "The way the towers came down is consistent with a controlled demolition."

      Could be consistent with other causes as well.

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      Truth Please 5 years ago from Inside Your Head

      @Real Truther - Thanks for pointing out 2 things. The jet was a 707 - not 777, and the document was produced by PNAC. My points are still valid.

      Bush is a neoconservative, and was in office when the document was created, and believe me when I say that document wasn't the only one that alluded to the need for a "catalyzing" event.

      I got the jet wrong. The towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts from a 707 at 600mph. Both jets that hit the towers were moving slower (460 and 590mph).

      This is a great example of the nitpicking and ignoring of facts that makes people like me want to write articles about this subject. Thanks for the fuel.

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "I got the jet wrong. The towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts from a 707 at 600mph. Both jets that hit the towers were moving slower (460 and 590mph)."

      You're wrong about this also. The towers were ostensibly designed to handle the impact of a *single* 707 low on fuel flying at low speed, as in preparing to land and lost in fog. Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

      National Academy of Engineering:

      http://www.nae.edu/Publications/Bridge/Engineering...

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      Truth Please 5 years ago from Inside Your Head

      @nicomp

      "The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door -- this intense grid -- and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting." -- Frank A. Demartini, on-site construction manager for the World Trade Center

      "The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707—DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact." -- Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson White Paper, 1964

      The towers were over-engineered as well, but I'm sure you haven't put any time into that. You'd rather troll and nitpick. You wouldn't want something like evidence opening your eyes.

      Now run along and watch American Idol, and don't forget to vote for Obamney.

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Feel free to continue to ignore the guy who actually *designed* the building.

      To reiterate, a plane hit it, it collapsed, and no sentient human has come forward since then with any first-hand knowledge of controlled demolition on the site. No one. Nobody. Perhaps one person executed the entire job and immediately thereafter joined witness protection. Sure.

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      joer4x4 5 years ago from Philadelphia, PA

      What sticks in my mind is that steel doesn't snap under high heat. It bends and/or deforms. I know this because I am familiar with testing all types of metal pipe including steel and stainless steel used in nuclear reactors. I did it.

      My question is where is all the deformed steel. The towers fell due to the fire - not the impact? Only an intense explosion can break steel. Jet fuel doesn't explode or flash like TNT or other explosives. Jet fuel did not provide the impact needed.

      There should have been several stories of deformed steel in the rubble. But none was reported.

      The second problem is when it was all said and done, all the damage should have been confined to a few stories that would have been deformed from the steel. Why did it collapse?

      Something had to snap to create the pressure for the towers to fall. That is a momentary increase in weight beyond what it designed to support. The building was all steel and reinforced concrete. Either there was an explosion other than the jet, the steel was of very poor quality, it is possible the concrete core was poorly or not reinforced, or there was an explosive devise on the plane that was design to explode after impact.

      Either way I see a cover up.

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      Truth Please 5 years ago from Inside Your Head

      @nicomp - "Feel free to continue to ignore the guy who actually *designed* the building."

      I know exactly who Leslie E. Robertson is. Do you know what a white paper is? LOL

      Leslie E. Robertson was *one* of the chief engineers, contracted by Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson (authors of the white paper I cited), to participate in the design of the World Trade Center Twin Towers.

      This was Leslie's first high rise construction. He was later made a partner, and WSHJ changed their name to include Robertson.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_E._Robertson

      "To reiterate, a plane hit it, it collapsed, and no sentient human has come forward since then with any first-hand knowledge of controlled demolition on the site."

      No plane hit WTC building 7, and you must have missed the hundreds of eyewitness accounts from first responders, people near the buildings when they collapsed, and all of those reporters.

      Oh, and I guess you would also have to ignore the photographic evidence of linear shape charges at ground zero.

      http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploa...

      You're logic is perfect, dude. If there is a cover up, of course no one from the demolition crew would speak out - for fear of retaliation by the American people or the conspirators. Don't worry about that, though. A minor mental hurdle for those "patriots" afraid to wake up.

      You tried to sum up the official story, but I think this video does a much better job.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htKScR5e4K8&fea...

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      Truth Please 5 years ago from Inside Your Head

      @joer4x4 - Thanks for your comment. I agree that, if the official story were true, there would not have been a sudden and total collapse of the towers.

      They can't use the jet impact or burning jet fuel excuse for WTC building 7, either.

      Also, other steel-framed, high-rise buildings have burned for over 17 hours without collapsing. The south and the north towers burned for about 56 minutes and 1 hour and 43 minutes respectively.

      http://www.ae911truth.org/news/41-articles/363-bur...

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      Jo 4 years ago

      Those who refuse to question the gaping holes in the official 9/11 story, whether the overall story be true or not, and the obvious inconsistencies in Larry Silversteins revelations, whether he is trying to state the truth or not, do not deserve the liberty that they do not fight for. Also those who do not seek the truth, be it different from the official narrative or not, are part of the problem, as opposed to part of the solution, and at the same time are possibly doing the many victims of 9/11 a disservice by allowing the deaths of these people to be in vain.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Jo: Don't confuse 'refusing to question the gaping holes' with common sense.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "You're logic is perfect, dude. If there is a cover up, of course no one from the demolition crew would speak out - for fear of retaliation by the American people or the conspirators."

      Sure. The demo crew would wire a building to kill thousands of people but they would be afraid of retaliation. That makes sense.

      Sigh.

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "Sense" has nothing to do with it: it's a psy-op. It is meant to confuse.

      Use your 6th sense....open your 3rd eye.

      You will see how ridiculous it is to claim 19 men with box-cutters and living in caves could out-smart the whole apparatus of the US military.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      ...and hundreds of men working thousands of hours to wire a building for demolition *after* it was built and *while* it was fully occupied could go completely undetected. And none of them would ever talk about it.

      Sure. That passes the eyeball test. If you're blind and befuddled.

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      Yes Dear 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      investigate who did the wiring....they closed it down prior to 9/11.

      I do believe it was same who did security at those airports where the flights went out.

      blind and befuddled? No--they tried to make it that way: but they fail to realize we have seen them in action for a long long time.

      We KNOW they don't give a fig for american lives. or any lives, really.

      It's the great work that matters. World Domination.

      nothing new under the sun: you just choose to ignore it, IMHO.

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      Jo 4 years ago

      @nicomp I'm not confusing anything, i'm merely suggesting you do your own research rather than theorizing and calling your theory 'common sense'. Like this for example....

      Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.

      According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

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      Rob 4 years ago

      It might have been designed to withstand an impact with a jetliner, but the 707 was NOT the biggest civilian airliner back then. The 747 was and pretty much still is, except for the new Airbus ones and a couple crazy Russian cargo planes.

      I specifically remember reading a plaque on the observation platform of the WTC that talked about the strong design and how it was designed to withstand an impact with a large jet airliner. I forget what model they mentioned, but that plaque was there and I read it back in 1986. Either they were lying on the plaque, the engineers didn't do their job properly, or the government is lying to us. I think maybe all three could be true.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      ... still waiting for *one* single solitary person to admit to having anything to do with wiring the buildings, procuring the explosives, or hiding the people that were supposed to be on the airliners.

      One. Single. Person.

      One sentient human being.

      Still waiting...

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Sure. They're all dead. Keep believing that!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Not all--but who wants to die? You? I bet you believe Ron Paul when he says Snowden might be killed, don't you?

      You just keep believing their little fairy tale about 19 big bad muslims over-powering the "most powerful and best military in the world"....

      **********

      Love that Righty's believe conspiracies now!

      Can't say much, can you? Except ours are true, yours is a lie.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Um... they didn't overpower any military... those were commercial airliners. It was in all the papers!

      I absolutely love how you all connect non-existent dots. It's a great break from the logical world.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Really? Who is in charge of sending interceptor jets when a plane is hi-jacked.....American Airlines? Who was in charge of NORAD that morning and told the planes to stand down? CEO of Jet Blue?

      Who took the debris out of there faster than you can say my pet goat--Richard Branson?

      And who got to pick up bullhorn and play war president?

      Your logic you can keep. It's fuzzy math to me.

      "Yeah...Bin Laden somehow tapped into NORAD phone lines and pretended to be someone high up in American gvt.".....whew, THAT makes sense.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Really? Who is in charge of sending interceptor jets when a plane is hi-jacked.....American Airlines?"

      The US Military. This does not advance your argument at all. They did send the jets. No one disputes that.

      "Who was in charge of NORAD that morning and told the planes to stand down?"

      I don't know, but Dick Cheaney gave the order to shoot. It was in all the papers that aren't printed by conspiracy lemmings. Look it up.

      "Who took the debris out of there faster than you can say my pet goat--Richard Branson?"

      A horde of dudes with dump trucks. I guess you would have preferred it to be left there. OK. If they left it there you would use that as proof of your conspiracy.

      "And who got to pick up bullhorn and play war president?"

      George Bush. If he had not made an appearance there you would use that as proof of his guilt.

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      Anyway, I'll keep asking and you'll keep ignoring: find me *one* person who claims to have wired the building, ordered the explosives, or hid all the people that supposedly were not on those airplanes. Just one. Please. Find me one sentient human that made any such claim before he/she was mysteriously killed or mysteriously vanished or moved to Kokomo.

      It's obviously unclear to you the difference between a *witness* and circumstantial evidence. Find me a witness. Introduce us to someone who *participated*.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I'm not on the "no one was on the planes" theory.

      I'm on the "9/11 was not done by muslims, but by neo-con Zionists theory.

      PNAC--Full Spectrum Dominance---Global Gladio.

      Even the authors of Commission report say they were lied to and not given full answers.

      Bob Kerry, on the commission, said "Maybe in 30 years we'll get the truth"

      I knew that morning that "we" had done it....Cheney, Bush, that whole rotten crowd.

      I don't need to prove it to you---just as you can't prove to me that 19 men w secret caves did.

      I know what I believe...you can keep yours.

      And if you are so inclined, you can go online and read the theories.

      All of them.

      I'm not looking to convince you--I'm looking to state my opinions with the same right that you state yours.

      Just because yours is "official" doesn't make it real. Especially w that bunch of sadists.

      You go on believing them, and I won't.

      Next up is Syria, then Iran.

      Go look up PNAC documents....it's all there.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Second verse, same as the first...

      Show me one person who wired the buildings, procured the explosives, or hid the people that were supposed to be on those airliners.

      One person.

      You can't do it, can you?

      Here's why you can't do it: because those people never existed.

      Stay focused, my friend!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Once again.......I don't subscribe to no people on the plane.

      And--the people who wired the building will not come forward. Why would they?

      But I do know some shady connections surrounded it.

      I do know shady connections surrounded all of it.

      I do know a group of neo-cons wanted "regime change" in Iraq, and I do know they got it.

      And I also know Silverstein said we "pulled it" about building 7 on national tv--I watched it.

      I know that the Bush administration was keen on getting Saddam, and they lied about Bin-Laden/Saddam connection.

      Lies, changing stories, the end result was what PNAC wanted---and Bush adm filled w em.

      nope: I always say: 2+2=4

      NOW---why don't you prove to me that the 19 hi-jackers and Bin-Laden perpetraited 9/11

      I'm all ears.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      just started watching this.....looks good

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9_GRH5V9-E&fea...

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Still waiting for eye-witnesses. Not interested in hearsay and circumstantial speculation. Let me know when a human being who wired the building, procured the 'explosives', or planned the 'controlled demolition' comes forward.

      I'll be waiting...

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      well DUH....me too!

      I'm still waiting for proof it was 19 muslims w box cutters! Or should I say Saudi's.......Bush's pals.

      Where's your proof?

      I'll quote the doc...what little I watched before my stupid computer just blitzed....

      Where is the identification of the bodies on the plane that they claim were terrorists? pretty basic stuff.

      Why did America's air defenses fail that day......in 4 separate places?What are the odds?

      Why was the debris removed so quickly? Usually the evidence is saved for investigation. Total reversal of procedure.

      If none of that bothers you.....you really have a lot of gall ridiculing me!

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      There's your problem... you can't logically assert that lack of proof from another party (the sane people) implies that your theory is correct.

      Even if you don't proof (in your opinion) that it was 19 terrorists with box cutters, logic prevents you from picking your hackneyed contrivance as the correct solution.

      Anyway, get back to me when you find a sentient human who was directly involved in wiring the buildings or obtaining the explosives or sequestering the people that were supposed to be on the airliners.

      Find just one real person who participated. Not the cousin of the barber of the security manager who quit 3 weeks before the attack.

      Find me someone who pulled the wire. Someone who connected the (supposed) Thermite. Someone who planned the controlled demolition.

      I'll be waiting.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Sure thing bud...as soon as you do the same. You can't say the 19 involved are all dead, because 7 of them turned up alive after they supposedly went down in the planes.......HELLO!

      And I'll find you 2 who participated:

      Dick Cheney and George W Bush.

      3: Andrew Card.

      ask them, but you won't be able to. Know why? Untouchable.

      That's why Dick and George were allowed to testify but not under oath.

      Don't you find that strange? I do

      Especially since Clinton had to---and his issue was a pimple on the butt of 911.

      Or question Liebermann and Ehud Barack of Israel. Netanyahu or Ohlmert.

      Ask them.

      Think you can?

      HA!

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      Truth Please 3 years ago from Inside Your Head

      The official 9/11 story - in under 5 minutes:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ugzNr6JMM

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      yes, but "big bad muslims" has soooo many lasting benefits.

      al-queda?? We can be the enemy and the good guy all in one!

      Our military knows who did 9/11, of that you can be sure.

      It ain't over, til it's over.

      And it's far from over.

      Semper Fi

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "The official 9/11 story - in under 5 minutes:"

      It must be true because it's snarky and fast-moving and conspiratorial. It's the MTV video version of 9/11!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Uh huh...versus your version, where 19 civilians take down the United States Military.

      say--how DID they get that fake Cheney voice to come over NORAD phone lines, and tell the interceptor jets to stand down?

      All that, and still no Caliphate? Sheeeeesh...I guess 9/11 really wasn't all that good for them huh?

      But SOMEBODY got a war with Iraq, didn't they?

      Remind me again.....what did Bin Laden gain?

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      Martin 3 years ago

      chris,

      "But SOMEBODY got a war with Iraq, didn't they?"

      What does Iraq have to do with September 11?

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Bush used 9/11 to invade Iraq.

      Do you not remember already?

      My fav was Cheney--saying Bin Laden and Saddam operatives met in Prague......total fabrication.

      Now my turn:

      How did Bin Laden fake Cheney's voice on NORAD line?

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      How did anyone think that Bin Laden faked Cheney's voice on the NORAD line?

      Can you say "Straw Man?"

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Cheney was in charge of NORAD that morning.

      He knew planes were hi-jacked, yet told interceptor jets to stand down.

      Cape Cod Otis AF base.....80 minute delay.

      That's not a straw man....that's deliberate subterfuge.

      And I want to know why.

      Under Oath......like Clinton.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      As always, my question was ignored.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Other CIA assets, including Susan Lindauer, have stated that it would have been utterly impossible for Atta and others to have been planning an attack of any kind without the CIA knowing about it."

      Sigh. You can do better than a mentally ill anti-war activist.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "As always, my question was ignored."

      What question was that?

      And--mine really was.

      "straw-man" is not an answer to how OBL got into NORAD's phones and I guess faked Dick Cheney's voice to stand the jets down--since he is the one you think planned and executed 9/11.

      Allowing those planes to hit was key.

      It covered up the controlled demolition quite nicely.

      So--How did Bin Laden do it? I want the proof.

      and I was listening to a convo the other day on radio....and this guy said that the CIA has been in control of US gvt since 1953.

      Imagine if that's true.

      Since I believe CIA/Mossad executed 9/11......I can imagine just that.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Here's my question again:

      "How did anyone think that Bin Laden faked Cheney's voice on the NORAD line?"

      I asked it above, but it was ignored and a straw man argument was posited.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "and I was listening to a convo the other day on radio....and this guy said that the CIA has been in control of US gvt since 1953."

      I read in the newspaper that Dewey defeated Truman.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      As did I answer yours: 'what does Iraq have to do with 9/11'

      "Bush used 9/11 to invade Iraq.

      Do you not remember already?

      My fav was Cheney--saying Bin Laden and Saddam operatives met in Prague......total fabrication."

      **********

      Stalemate.

      You have no proof of your asssertions.......only belief.

      And I choose to believe otherwise.....

      That does not make you right-----now does it?

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Here's my question for a third time:

      "How did anyone think that Bin Laden faked Cheney's voice on the NORAD line?"

      I'll keep asking until you answer. It's kind of my thing.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Well, because those jets were told to stand down. If Bin-Laden orchestrated 9/11, he must have orchestrated that.

      Next time: be more clear on what you're asking.

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      Jim 3 years ago

      Um, you guys are arguing that Dick Cheney ran NORAD and OBL impersonated him on the phone? Am I missing something here? Was the Secretary of the Treasury driving an aircraft carrier that morning too?This whole argument sounds nuts.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Dear Jim--

      nicomp thinks Bin-Laden did 9/11.

      I am asking, If so--how did he get Cheney to tell the interceptor jets to stand down?

      I was being sarcastic by asking if he faked Cheney's voice.

      How else could he have done it?

      answer: he couldn't.

      Cheney did tell the jets to stand down.

      And I want to know why....Under Oath.

      That is only one of many questions millions of us have. And we want answers.....Under Oath.

      Did you hear the latest?

      An x CIA is coming clean--she's going down, and taking those with her.

      Rendition of an Italian man.....held in Egypt and tortured with no charges.

      Order had to be approved from the top: Condi Rice as head of NSC and GW Bush as Prez.

      I used to read that they had a secret room down in the White House where they could watch people being tortured...and even take part.

      All this is result of war on terror......innocent people nabbed and tortured.

      You may not have read or seen the pictures of our treatment of "enemy combatants", but Sadism is the word to describe it.

      Oh Condi, Condi...sweet sweet Condi.

      Did you know she headed a group called The Vulcans?

      Google.

      3,000 Americans murdered.

      I want answers.....UNDER OATH!

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      Jim 3 years ago

      Cheney gave a shoot-down order.

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      Jim 3 years ago

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Uh oh! Anonymous User Jim has posted YouTube videos proving that there was indeed a shoot-down order!

      The conspiracy has collapsed.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      At least there's one anonymous who isn't a neo-con. Most of them are RW'ers....of the Rabid variety.

      Funniest to me was that reporter on tv saying "a third building has gone down"--while you could see it standing in the background behind her.

      Much like Bush telling people he watched the plane hit the building.......before it was on tv!

      Yes----planned and executed: So many helpers!

      How about all those people who were told not to fly or go to work on that day?

      And by gum....someones made out on the stock market because of it!

      Bin Laden? don't think so.

      "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive".....

      Only this time---it was obvious. Yes--it was a feat of high technique.....

      But really: What master-mind leaves the plans in a car for all to see?

      And what passport survives an explosion and burning fire? In mint condition?

      And who learns to fly planes, but not land them?

      And no one thinks this is odd?

      ehhhhhhhhhhh.

      I'll take Treason and Sabotage for 500, Alex.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "At least there's one anonymous who isn't a neo-con. Most of them are RW'ers....of the Rabid variety."

      BUT JIm posted a YouTube video supporting his position. Therefore it must be true.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Funniest to me was that reporter on tv saying "a third building has gone down"--while you could see it standing in the background behind her."

      Oh, my. Did you hear that Dewey defeated Truman?

      "How about all those people who were told not to fly or go to work on that day?"

      Sure! That would never happen under any other circumstances.

      "And by gum....someones made out on the stock market because of it!"

      And that would never happen otherwise. The 'stock market' just sits there on every other day.

      "But really: What master-mind leaves the plans in a car for all to see?"

      A master mind who exists in your mind.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Now you're talkin!!!!

      "There is also the very real prospect that Snowden’s files may reveal explosive secrets going back to the 9/11 alleged terror attacks on New York and Washington in 2001. It has been long suspected by many analysts and experts that the official narrative on those purported attacks is a cover-up for something much more sinister, such as US government collusion for secret strategic interests. "

      http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/08/09/obama-ta...

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Veterans for Peace demands new investigation of 9/11 - quietly (so far) http://bit.ly/15ok2TL

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      What's all the hoopla and ballyhoo about? Everything is a conspiracy theory if you give it enough time to marinate!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "who were those Israelis cheering on a rooftop at the fall of the World Trade Center? The Israelis were later spirited out of the country by US officials."

      *****

      Dear Insane

      It's not a conspiracy, it's a plan.

      PNAC: Dual-citizens running the gvt.

      Wake up.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      Oh, it's just that I've heard so many people say several years later "the 9/11 conspiracy theory," that I just assumed that anybody that thinks it wasn't a few whackjobs flying into the buildings with their planes, must have went into the other category. It's okay, I've even heard about some people believing in the use of holographic technology and that the planes were fake; ha! I swear, it seems that some people would believe the moon is made of cheese if you tell 'em such.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      They tell us that on a daily basis.

      You happen to believe it, I don't.

      "magic bullet"

      "19 muslims with box cutters"

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      I didn't say I believed anything. All I know, is that a bunch of people died. I'm not a conspiracy nut, either. It doesn't take a lot of brains to realize that deceit is a deep-ingrained trait for the Homo sapiens.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Good....here's your "born-again Christian" Bush, and fellow Republican holier-than-thou's:

      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/11/the-contra...

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      Cool... That website has all kinds of stuff on there like Nordic aliens (not just the little grays or big green reptilians), UFOs, the alien hybrid program, space wars, and more...

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yes--right up my ally.

      Of course, you may be more in-tuned to:

      Barry Soetero

      Gay coke-user who kills his gay "husbands"

      Not born here

      Muslim terrorist

      Did Benghazi

      Had IRS go after innocent Baggers

      His real father is:

      Communist member, or Malcolm X

      Plans to kill Snowden if he gets his hands on him

      etc

      etc

      etc

      ******

      Get my drift?

      Best you can say to me is:

      "My conspiracies are better than yours"

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      You need help. I doubt if the aliens would bother probing poor specimens like yourself. If anything, you represent a genetic experiment gone bad or, uh, was that something the FDA recommended for you?

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      OMG----you know about the Federation of Dead Aliens???

      Who told you?

      ....*now this is freaking me out....*

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      shhhhhhhhh

      here's the "Code" Video. don't repeat it: I beg of you!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      Yeah, to think some people call us a secret society... LOL!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      The secret ones really are secret, imo.

      The front people take all the heat

      and us shlemmings, who pay all the bills...and furnish the entertainment, I would guess.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      Yeah, well, some folks are still waiting on a full UFO Disclosure from the U.S., for some reason. Too many secrets for my liking... Of course, there are many conspiracy theories that also say how the Germans got technological help from extraterrestrials, as well. There is a cool book about German technology called "Hitler’s Suppressed and Still-Secret Weapons, Science and Technology," as well. Plus, how many different races of ETs are there? I usually just hear about the little grays, tall grays, the benevolent Nordic ones, big green reptilians, the little green men, etc. I mean, where are the Klingons? Oh, crap... None of this relates to 9/11... Oops!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Oh yes it does.

      Who are the Overlords?

      and --what Hitler said:

      "I have seen the New Man, and he scares me"

      .......humanity+machine/computers????

      Scares me too.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      I don't think we have reached the Cyborg stage yet, at least not the Homo sapiens, albeit that would not be good, regardless. Brain transfer projects have already openly started the last few years, and not all projects involve direct transfer between computers, either. The last one I read about involved a rat, of all things.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: you seem to be the same one in this thread.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @Nicomp: I was just fiddle playing... LOL! No, that is a separate entity, seriously...

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: logic take a holiday here... have fun.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @Nicomp: Oh, crap, I left Spock on the spaceship; yikes!

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: Meet me at the crop circle.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @Nicomp: Bring the probes; new specimens supposed to be arriving soon.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: You bring the Thermite.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Alien talk doesn't give cover to the perpetraitors of 9/11.

      Keep deflecting....it won't matter an iota.

      By now: we are all wise to the game of Bait and Switch.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @lovemychris : bring us an eye-witness that wired the buildings. Until then, go play in a crop circle. ;)

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @Nicomp: I thought the space monkeys were going to use photon torpedoes instead, preferably after they picked us up!

      @lovemychris: Deflector shields up!

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: Even the NSA is bored with this article.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @Nicomp: That's why the last few comments have been geared more for NASA and Ufologists. The NSA fell off this page a long while back...

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: The NSA opened a new server farm for these kooks.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @Nicomp: A butterfly flapped its wings in Europe and 2 cockroaches collapsed in the Southern Hemisphere!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Sure thing comp.....and you bring me Cheney under oath mmkay?

      Or hell....could be Condi, Wolfie, Card, Perle, Kristol, etc etc etc....MANY to choose from.

      Let's hear it: Under Oath and let some experts ask the questions.

      Most important to me: Why was Dick head of NORAD, and why did he tell jets to stand down?

      Kay? Think it'll ever happen? Bwahahahahaha

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @lovemychris: What about the aliens? Do you not think that they also know about holographic technology, as well? Didn't Sodom and Gomorrah succumb to advanced alien detestation? ...Well, except for the fact that they often use something much stronger than C-4, right? LOL!

      Before the conspiracy theories, a few whackjobs flied into some buildings and a lot of people died. Now, we might as well call the recruits from planet Uranus, as I hear the frozen space doughnuts are nice this time of orbit; ha!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Uh huh...glad you can so easily dismiss "the greatest military on earth".

      I can't.

      Someone HERE let this happen.

      But hey: keep up the distractions and the ridiculing.

      It shows the hand you're playing.

      "Hey--forget about that...look over here!!"

      ehhhhhhhh

      FAIL

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      It says all that? LOL!

      EPIC FAIL

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      @Insane: If I am ever on trial, I want these people on the jury because they can't differentiate between circumstantial evidence.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "Paulson told congress that he had the full support of President Bush (43) to declare martial law and arrest members of congress and their families."

      Bush crime family. But good X-stian....bwahaha

      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/15/hofburg-pa...

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Paulson told congress that he had the full support of President Bush (43) to declare martial law and arrest members of congress and their families."

      It would be *really* cool if you had that information first-hand. Your citation has no more supporting information than you do. You may as well have made it up yourself.

      By the way: the Sec Tres has no legal authority to declare martial law.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Nancy Pelosi said the same thing.

      Paulson worked for Goldmine Sux....he rules the Universe.

      *****

      1) Congressman Brad Sherman of California confirmed on the House floor last week that several fellow members of Congress were threatened with the likelihood of “MARTIAL LAW” if they opposed the $700 billion Wall Street bailout;

      2) Congressman Michael Burgess of Texas went public last Monday on a live radio talk show saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had declared House Rule 136A, establishing the House under “MARTIAL LAW RULES,” a dictatorial measure that is only supposed to be enforced during a period of National Emergency.

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      nicomp really 3 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Chris, you ignored my point. It's impolite to fling more poo without addressing the previously flung poo.

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Really? You do it all the time.

      Or you dismiss, and make fun.

      What was your point? SecTres can't do it?

      Who does he work for?

      Federal Reserve....the Capo di Capo.

      Give me a break.

      Money talks.

      Fed is money. Goldmine is Fed. 1+1=2

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      @lovemychris: The Greada/Grenada Treaty is also right up your alley: http://www.abidemiracles.com/56789.htm

      Yeah, what is their agenda? Enhanced cow meat?

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Like I said: distract....""Hey--look over here!"

      Cow meat and 9/11 being an inside job: does not compute.

      But it takes the focus off, huh?

      so, no tanks. My "thing" is 9/11.

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      Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

      Oh, I didn't know it was your "thing." Well, good luck with that... Ha!

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      Yes Dear 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Here's another one who says what bothers him the most is the interceptor planes: TOLD you the military knows!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrRKqI1NAgE&fe...

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      freedomwriter 4 months ago

      So people expect anyone with inside knowledge to come forward and face the repercussions of the people responsible for knocking down the twin towers and starting two wars?

      Speaking of common sense. BTW have any of you heard of the Gulf of Tonkin? Or the cover-up by the entire government and military of Vietnam War casualties?

      You same people probably believe the Warren Commission report too.

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