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Repulsed By The Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Repeal Opposition

Updated on February 3, 2010


I’ve written about the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy more than I care to remember. There’s a large part of me that doesn’t get why we’re still talking about it or more to the point dealing with it. I appreciate that Obama announced in his State of the Union speech that this policy will be done away with this year but as I’ve noted before, he can’t make anything happen on his own and as long as the religious right and good old boy white man network runs our country I don’t think the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell will go down without the conservatives trying to make everyone think that allowing gays to serve openly will cause civilization as we know it to collapse. Repulsed by The Don’t Ask Don’t Tell opposition – Don’t Get Me Started!

Like anything else, marketing is the key here. The conservatives have to frighten their followers to think that the gays want this policy revoked so that they can have sex with the young boys that apparently only conservative white people are sending out to defend our country. They have to create enough fervor and hate that it will trickle down to Bubba who flunked out of high school that the military is trying to recruit in a repressed neighborhood’s Wal-Mart parking lot. They have to create the fear you see to gain power over these people. They don’t call themselves, “God fearing” people for no reason. They’ve managed to keep their minions in line for years with fear and this will be no exception.

The other key issue here is money. They don’t want us gays to get the same rights as citizens so they sure as hell don’t want to see our gay spouses joining us at the PX to stock up on supplies. And more importantly, they don’t want us getting health benefits from our spouses or cashing in when they die. Don’t forget that we still don’t have equality in civilian life so if they start treating all of the military fairly how long will it be before we can hold that up and say, “Um, excuse me, I pay taxes, why should my spouse be treated differently than how military spouses or any spouse for that matter are treated?” They say that it’s going to cost so much more money because of all of the spousal benefits that they’ll have to extend to which I say, “Come on do you think we’re that stupid?” What about Bubba and his teen bride who has six kids from different babies’ daddies that have only known one another for three weeks before he shipped out? You pay out spousal benefits proportionately to the people you enlist. Just like any company. If they hire forty people, sure they could look to discriminate and make sure everyone was single so that they wouldn’t have to pay spousal benefits but in a normal circumstance, the more people you hire, the more people are likely to have spouses who should be included in the company’s benefits policy. It’s a cost associated with doing business, get over it.

And what of the talk of needing separate showers and barracks for gays that some are saying are going to be required to let gays serve openly? I’m sure they’ll talk about how much money it will cost the taxpayers. I think separate anything is stupid. When do we get our pink triangle badges, Mr. Hitler? When do we get the gay water fountains too? We saw how great that worked out for the African Americans so why go there? Why go there? Because too many of the closeted conservatives spend way too much time watching gay porn where a barracks suddenly becomes an orgy where everyone’s foxhole is filled that they’ve deluded themselves that this is how gay barracks life will be. Life doesn’t imitate porn people unless you pay a prostitute. No handyman is coming to your house wearing coveralls who asks you to hand him his wrench in his pocket and it turns out to be his fourteen inch dick. In real life two women aren’t ever washing their cars when all of a sudden they spray each other with water and start making out. While this may be the stuff that fantasies are made of it isn’t real life people.

There are enough things in life that make me crazy, I don’t need anything else added to the list right now so what we need to do is look at one another as human beings and understand that homosexuality has nothing to do with how we do our jobs, it’s who we are. Sure it influences our decisions because thanks to ignorance and discrimination we have to consider where we buy our home or where we shop so that we don’t get killed just for living our everyday lives but it doesn’t mean that we’re all sex addicts. We’ll leave that to the celebrities trying to clean up their image like Tiger Woods. And while we’re on the subject of images please stop trying to paint all homosexuals with the same brush. We’re not all Charles Nelson Riley and were not all Vin Diesel either (I’m not saying Vin Diesel is gay, just using him as a stereotype people, don’t get nervous boys). We like snowflakes and all human beings are a unique creation of genes and molecules just like the rest of you so stop all ready with the limp-wristed portrayal that only makes you look stupid. Stop with all the fear people. And think about it this way, if people didn’t have to hide their sexuality to be treated with dignity and respect you wouldn’t have as many of your priests and preachers marrying your women and having sex with men on the side causing you to have to try and pay the gay sinner who supposedly corrupted your holy man “hush money” and cause you embarrassment and worrying you that you won’t rake in as many millions this year from your “congregation” which consists of a bunch of morons sitting at home on unemployment giving money to the church instead of getting their hair done and going out looking for a job. While you sit in your religious ivory towers that hate and fear built you’re going to discover that you can’t fool all of the people all of the time and that the foundation is starting to crack. You’ll also find that that handyman you called to fix the foundation just might have a fourteen inch dick in his pocket instead of what you think is a wrench. But I doubt it. Repulsed by The Don’t Ask Don’t Tell opposition – Don’t Get Me Started!

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      somelikeitscott 6 years ago from Las Vegas

      OpinionDuck, Gays are not seeking rights above non-gays, they are seeking the same rights as non-gays. The rights that the Constitition supposedly grants all American citizens.

      As far as timing goes, "is this really the time to address this subject with all of the other problems in the country?" It's always the time to fight and grant people equal rights under the law. However I'm sure there's no coincidence that these "subjects" of dealing with gay rights always come around election time. My opinion is that the religious right and right wing always bring these issues to the forefront around election time, trying to get voters to fear those that are not just like them and to vote for a nice white Christian man or lady who will quote chapter and verse of why gays are going to hell and if they vote the proper "Christian" way they'll be granted that seat in heaven right next to the politicians who in reality are Satan themselves, just trying to get power, money and make sure that no one gets as much as them.

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      OpinionDuck 6 years ago

      Why do gays have rights above non gays?

      What is the basis of this Right?

      Is this really the time to address this subject with all of the other problems in the country?

      DADT is serving a purpose, just like Roe v Wade does for abortion. Neither one of these issues can be solved, so we have workarounds.

      Did smokers really have rights or did they just make them up?

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      ello, Hello 7 years ago

      First off being black or white or having green eyes are not a choice, homosexuality is a behavior, and all behaviors requires a conscience choice.

      This is not about equally or justice, but promotion. Gays want the government to promote of their perversion. “We’ve forgotten as a society what love is, because supporting and justifying homosexuality is not real love any more than glorifying drinking helps the alcoholic or celebrating smoking helps wipe out lung cancer . . . The most loving stance for others to take is not to serve as enablers of self-destructive and immoral compulsions, but to stand in patient but firm opposition.”

      Why don’t we stand in patient but firm opposition? Because it’s much easier to uncritically accept the half-truths put out by homosexual activists, and then have what seems to be compassion for them by giving them what they want. But that’s not real compassion. Jay Budziszewski observes that real “compassion ought to make us visit the prisoner, dry out the alcoholic, help the pregnant girl prepare for the baby, and encourage the young homosexual to live chastely. But how much easier it is to forget the prisoner; give the drunk a drink, send the girl to the abortionist, and tell the kid to just give in. False compassion is a great deal less work than true.”

      “After many years of intense research, a genetic component to homosexual desires has not been discovered. Twin studies show that identical twins do not consistently have the same sexual orientation. In fact, genetics probably explains very little about homosexual desires. How would a homosexual “gene” be passed on? Homosexuals don’t pass on anything because they don’t reproduce. The human genome project found no such gene. Then figure out how such a destructive and non productive gene would survive through thousands of generations. Second, the “born-that-way” claim is an argument from design” since God designed me with these desires, I ought to act on them.” But the people who say this overlook something more obvious they were also born with a specific gender. This raises the question: Why are you following your desires but not your gender? After all, we’re not sure if your desires were designed or the result of your upbringing, but we are certain that your anatomy is designed. So why not follow your anatomy rather than your desires? Ignoring your desires may be uncomfortable, but ignoring the natural design of your body is often fatal.

      Third, even if desires are not a choice, sexual behavior always is. So even if a person honestly believes that he’s been born with homosexual desires, he is certainly capable of controlling his sexual behavior. If you claim that he is not—that sexual behavior is somehow uncontrollable—then you have made the absurd contention that no one can be morally responsible for any sexual crime, including rape, incest, and child molestation.” "IF you are born with a genetic predisposition to alcohol, does that mean God wants you to be an alcoholic? If someone has a genetic attraction to children, does that mean God wants you to be a pedophile? (According to pedophiles it does!) What homosexual activist would say that a genetic predisposition to anger justifies gay-bashing? (Born gay? What if the gay basher was born mean?) "

      Excerpt from Correct, not Politically Correct, authored by Frank Turek.

      Let my ask you a few questions

      1. For what secular purpose does the state endorse traditional marriage (i.e. what benefits does the state experience from traditional marriage)?

      2. What would be the results to society if every adult lived faithfully in traditional marriage?

      3. What would be the results to society if every adult lived faithfully in same-sex marriage?

      4. In light of your answers above, should the state legally equate heterosexual and homosexual relationships by endorsing same sex marriage?

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      somelikeitscott 7 years ago from Las Vegas

      Commisioner, With all due respect, all politicians (and anymore news or any media reporters - even conservative talk radio people and bloggers - not excluding myself) have an agenda.

      While Don't Ask Don't Tell was put into effect under Clinton, it's because congress let him know that they would not lift the ban on homosexuals serving openly as he had asked to have happen. It was, like all of life, a compromise.

      While I think gays should be allowed to serve in the military (teach school, be Boy Scout leaders, the list goes on and on) I don't think it's anyone's business as to whether or not someone's gay unless they themselves want to tell you.

      The religious right and conservatives have compared homosexuality with beastiality and pedophilia time and time again. The commentators you mentioned are in it for their own fame and glory and getting sound bytes of themselves wherever they can and I doubt they're as pro-America as much as they're pro-themselves.

      While Obama has said that he feels the "M" word (marriage) is between a man and woman, he has not said that he is "against the gay lifestyle" - he's also wrong - denying citizens equal rights based on sexual preference is the same as not letting women or blacks vote. But like any other minority, we will continue to campaign for our equality, celebrate our small victories and hope that someday we'll gain the acceptance and laws that echo that acceptance that we deserve.

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      commisioner 7 years ago from florida

      but you have started. the military had the rule that gays could not serve until billy bob said don't ask, don't tell. now obama wants to repeal that rule and let gays serve openly. i prefer people tell the truth no matter what it's about. i prefer to know who the guy next to me in a foxhole or an office professes to be. i don't care if he is gay, straight or somewhere in between. i will accept anyone who can accept me for who i am.

      i am a conservative and listen to talk radio every day. i have yet to hear any talk show hosts say the gay's cannot serve. i hear their opposition on changing the rules when it fits an agenda, but the rules have only been changed by the dems. obama has openly said he was against the gay lifestyle. the liberal news media takes a statement by rush or sean or glenn and twists it to make the conservative seem evil and the liberal seem caring. they never report it was the dems that imposed the don't ask ... and the dems that want it changed.

      the words i hear from many hours of radio have always been for the freedom of this country's citizens in whatever walk of life they choose. as long as they don't hurt others they say live and let live.