Succession: States Succeeding from the US in This Day and Age?
Remember reading in history books that states wanted to secede from the union (United States)? Seceding is the act of a state withdrawing from the United States. Back in 1860 eleven states seceded form the Union because they wanted to keep slavery in their states....they formed the Confederate States. Many in the south believed Abraham Lincoln was trying to rule with absolute power with no regard to the South. Is history repeating itself?
Apparently the answer to my last question is yes! I read with surprise and amazement, accounts of forty-seven states filing petitions to secede from the Union! In 2012! Seriously!
One of those states is Texas. I'm laughing as I write this but its not funny. For your information these petitions were filed on the government's "We the People" web site (this web site was launched a year ago).
Excerpts From Petitions
The Texas petition:
Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
“We petition the Obama administration to: Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”
"With the federal government increasing its size much larger than our Founding Father’s intended, and its abuse of power trumping over the rights of state constitutions, and the forcing of unconstitutional laws over its own citizens, the people of Oregon would like the chance to vote on leaving the Union immediately."
As I continued to research this movement I realized it would be easier at this point to say the only states NOT petitioning to secede are Vermont, Washington and Maine.
The irony is most state's governors do not believe secession is the answer to anything. This is not a 'government' movement by any means. According to the Huffington Post, Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R), 'doesn't believe secession is "a valid option for Tennessee." Texas Governor Rick Perry does not support the petition AND a second petition was launched to keep Austin, Texas in the Union and that President Obama allow Austin to withdraw from the State of Texas.
Counter petitions want to deport those signing the secession petitions. I thought when the election was over we were going to act like grownups and try to put this country together again?
Has America gone mad? Not exactly. According to A University of Louisville political science professor this is not something new. Secession petitions were filed after George W. Bush was elected and after Obama was elected the first time. Further research shows it has happened after every election in the past twenty years!
My question is, did the people signing these petitions vote in the election? If they did, why are they complaining now? Really, grow up people...what are you going to do, take your ball and go home?
The results of seceding
Okay, let's just say hypothetically that these states are allowed to secede. President Obama grants their petitions. Now what? Who governs 'each' new state? What do they do for money, do they print their own? Do they write new laws? What about taxes to run THEIR government?
Oh, and what happens to their borders? Can Texas protect itself against Mexican drug lords and illegal immigration? What happens when a catastrophe hits and there is no National Guard to come in and help and no FEMA to provide funds for rebuilding?
What happens to "one nation indivisible"? Will each state have it's own military? What about the federal funds each state now receives but won't when they secede? What happens to United States Citizenship?
To me the saddest thing in all of this is the people signing those petitions are giving up on America...a country we fought so hard to form and keep. They are giving up on our military who have sacrificed their lives so this country might be free and protected.
A Ridiculous Mess
The entire thing is a ridiculous mess. What makes it so ridiculous is that unlike the past twenty years of secession attempts, this one has garnered a lot of publicity. Granted some of the publicity is due to the web site availability that we didn't have before. The Internet provides an opportunity to build popularity even if the subject is not necessarily a popular one. How many ridiculous YouTube videos have shot to fame overnight?
According to the "We the People" web site, the White House will respond to any petition with more than 25,000 signatures. From what I'm reading the White House is going to be busy. As with the election, these petitions are drawing attention away from the real issues at hand. Obama's "fiscal cliff" is what the nation should be focusing on.
When taken in context, the signatures on these petitions are a minute fraction of the actual population in each of those states. For example, Louisiana has 4.6 million residents and 28,000 signatures on it's petition.
While the White House is the target of the petitions, the White House cannot, legally, grant petitions of secession. The Presidential Proclamation Declaring a State of Peace Between Texas and the United States dated on Aug. 20, 1866 stipulates that no state has the right to secede from the union. The Proclamation reads:" ... it is the manifest determination of the American people that no state, of its own will has a right or power to go out of or separate itself from, or be separated from the American union; and that, therefore, each State ought to remain and constitute an integral part of the United States ..." (examiner.com, "Texas secession petition is meaningless", November 13, 2012.) Other sources say, as a result of the Civil War neither the United States nor any court would grant any state the right to secede. The Supreme Court has already ruled that no state has the right to secede.
"United we stand, divided we fall"...anyone remember that?
To me this is a mass temper tantrum and ultimately it is much ado about nothing! Time to reunite and make this one nation, indivisible!!
As of 11:20 a.m. on November 14, 2012, all fifty states have signed petitions on the We the People website, to secede from the Union.
The website examiner.com states that these petitions show the deep split that remains in this country after the election.
On 11/15/2012, a petition with 3,196 signatures says that any state seceding from the Union must pay it's share of the National Debt before it can leave....it appears to me this entire thing is turning into a comedy of errors!
Also as of this date, the leading secession petition has gathered (total of signatures on all petitions) to 388,000. ABC News states there are 36 states with petitions filed making my earlier statement (garnered from other research) that all 50 states had filed, untrue. States filing:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.
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