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St Louis Turmoil Has Become United States Turmoil and Possibly World Turmoil

Updated on January 6, 2015
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It seems the United States had made 3 steps forward with relations between blacks and whites, and now it has taken 20 steps back.

I have studied much of the news and proceedings surrounding the case of Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darrin Wilson fatally shooting 18 year old Michael Brown.

It is sad knowing a young man was killed, but should this police officer be charged? The Grand Jury didn't think so, but thousands upon thousands of people seem to think so.

Lets take a look at some of what happened when news that the Grand Jury made their decision:

Personal Concern

Maybe it is wrong, but at this time my main stress is the safety of the family members and friends I have throughout the St Louis area.

If this was a peaceful protest, it would be one thing, but for some reason, there are those individuals who think that burning cars and buildings, and using violence will somehow make all of this right. By doing so, there will be more people injured and possibly killed.

I must say that I agree with Governor Jay Nixon in bringing in the Army National Guard. There are not many things I have agreed with Nixon on, but this is one.

My son and daughter-in-law live in a St Louis suburb. I pray that they along with my 2 Granddaughters are safe from the craziness.

My daughter lives somewhere in the area. I also hope she stays safe.

My Grandson Elijah was adopted by a family in the St Louis area. I was promised that I would still be a part of his life by the courts and the agency who handled it....Bringing Families Together. I pray he is safe from this turmoil.

Other Cities

People in other cities have started protesting also. The parents of Michael Brown, along with Al Sharpton will be speaking in New York City tonight.

Other cities with protests are:

  • Los Angeles
  • Chicago
  • Seattle
  • Oakland
  • Washington D.C.
  • Atlanta
  • and more

So what will all of this solve?

Will there now become a huge division between black and white again? The New Yorker is sure stating it.


If You

If you have followed this case, I am sure you have loads of information.

I have my opinions, but I would like to know yours first.

Lets pretend you are on the Grand Jury. If need be, Google or Bing the Michael Brown shooting and read all about it.

Now watch this interview with police officer Darrin Wilson and then please answer the poll.

Remember, you are on a Grand Jury. Think with common sense. It isn't about what other cops have done. It isn't about gangs or anything but....Officer Darrin Wilson and Michael Brown. Please explain in the comment section if you would have said:

  • Murder
  • Manslaughter
  • A lesser charge
  • No charges

My Opinion

First, I must say that I have had my share of problems with "dirty cops."

Yes, I am Caucasian, but that has no bearing in this. If Michael Brown would have been white, yellow or even green, I would still have the same opinion.

Officer Darrin Wilson did what he had to do.

The Grand Jury was right in their decision.

If we didn't have police officers, this country would be a chaotic nightmare.

Sorry if I offended anyone, but this cop did what he needed to do, and if I were in his position, I would have done the same.

May the people of Ferguson and St Louis heal from this. May people like Al Sharpton and the Klu Klux Klan step back and shut their mouths.

May everyone learn and realize that their are laws to obey, both for those without badges, and for those with them.

Lets Hear Your Opinion....

We really would like to hear your opinions, but please be wise about your words. There is no reason to use cuss words or get angry.

What would you do?

© 2014 Greg Boudonck


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    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      3 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      I used to live in O'Fallon, until I moved here to Puerto Rico.

    • ThatMommyBlogger profile image


      3 years ago from The Midwest

      I live in O'Fallon. I was terrified when all of this started.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Uh huh...I get it. YOU know the truth, I'm just a hater.

      It's fine to hate Palestinians...oh I know,I don't hate, only I do.

      But the way people speak about Palestinians.......and only I get called the names!

      It's de-reguer to blame people, instead of the situations they're found in.

      Poverty=violence=despair=the Devil's playground

      And I know I'm slow, and a bit stupid, but even I can see the common-ground problem here:


      Oh but GUNS are elevated higher than life here.

      And your point of view is only one allowed here.

      That's why people go underground. Not for sinister reasons, like the KKK, but because trying to make people see a different way is like chipping ice at an Iron Wall.

      "I remember when no white person dare go into 5 points. You would be dead immediately."

      Good thing for you they're not running things, huh.

      Imagine living in a place where they did.

      Then you can begin to see from another pov.

      Then you can see Ferguson and Gasa from the side of those being oppressed, instead of the oppressee.

      btw,I was in AA with a lot of cops....I wouldn't want that job for a second. But--somewhere along the line here, things have changed.

      Military tanks should not be part of a town police force!!!

      And--Ferguson, along with many others, received training in Tel Aviv....think about that, and excuse me! This is America, not Israel.....right

      think again

      Then again, we train terrorists here, don't we........

      Didn't some men learn how to fly planes, but not land Florida, wasn't it.

      Yeah, THAT'S normal. But ignored all the same!

      Lollipops and Roses, but underneath is foul.

      And Cape Cod has a high rate of alcoholism, domestic violence and heroine use....

      I think the biggest gang here is De Spairs.

      I enjoy many parts of life....but no time for that now. I'll enjoy when all my fellow humans get the same priviledge.

      Maybe you don't get it.....this is Apacolypse.--you have to pick a side: which we both have done.It's a war of ideas...and enemies we be.

      Not lethal....but as guardians of the legacy we leave to our grandchildren....I want yours to be over. It's gone on long enough.


    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      Wow lovemychris, as crazyhorsesghost stated, you do have a hate filled mentality. You also have a lot to learn. There is no way Israel had anything to do with bringing down the twin towers. You think cops have become as bad as gangs huh? You lived in Denver--I did too. I lived in some bad areas, and I thank God there were cops. If there would not have been cops, the place would have been total chaos. I remember when no white person dare go into 5 points. You would be dead immediately.

      As he also stated, the cops are not the ones killing young black men very often. It is young black men killing other young black men.

      Yep, stalemate--someday you will see the truth. As others I know when they moved to heavily gang infested neighborhoods. Isn't the baddest gang in Cape Cod the Hop Scotchers?

      Just jokin--don't get mad--smile and enjoy life.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Well, you see...I think it was Israel who did it...9-11,that is.Israel and traitor Americans.

      So, there you have it.

      And I think the Palestinian People have a right to exist.

      And I think cops have become as bad as gangs.


    • crazyhorsesghost profile image

      Thomas Byers 

      4 years ago from East Coast , United States

      I support Israel 100 percent. They have a right to exist. You do realize that there was no such thing as a Palestinian People before 1967. The same people who attack and denounce Israel are the same people who knocked down the Twin Towers. At least the same mind set. No it was not a inside job or a dark government conspiracy. It was a Muslim Extremist operation from start to finish. And they will be more smoking holes in the ground if we don't work to stop it. I cringe every time I hear the announcement on CNN of Breaking News. I know another September 11th is coming. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened already.

      Lovemychris I don't know why you have so much anger. I don't know what happened to you in your life but I hope you find peace.

      I don't post with out knowing what I'm saying. I've walked the streets of Jerusalem. I was stationed at the Embassy there during the worst of the bus bombings. If tomorrow as far fetched as it sounds Mexico or Canada started shooting missiles into American cities do you not think we would have the right to attack them. The Muslim Extremists hate America and our way of life. And America is not a bad country. I served her as a US Naval Officer for thirty years and I'm proud of that old flag. I fly it every day.

      I'm not saying we don't have problems because we do. The failed war on drugs is one of America's worse problems. Marijuana should be legal nationwide. No I don't smoke it.

      Race is a problem in America because organizations like the Black Panthers preached and filled young black men with hate. Most of the black people are being killed by black people. And there are bad white men. James Earl Ray killed one of the greatest black men who ever lived. Martin Luther King was not filled with hate. He was a pacifist. He preached peace and understanding.

      We have to have a nation of laws or it would all collapse into chaos. I'll agree 100 percent that its not a perfect system but its the best in the world. Our schools have gone to hell here in America. I have a neice who teaches in LA and she says most teachers are afraid to go to school each day. The gangs rule the schools. The teachers and staff have lost control.

      In the next 25 to 40 years a lot of our major roads and bridges are going to fail. America is in bad shape. But no I for one am not ready to just back off and let the thugs rule America. I for one will not go with out a fight.

      Its sad that a lot of young black men are dying but it is the music, the TV shows and the thug mentality that is causing a lot of these killings. Look at all the killings of black people ( mostly kids ) being killed in Chicago almost on a daily basis. And 99 percent of this is black on black crime. Often for the shoes one child is wearing. Or the color of their coat. This needs to stop and if it takes the National Guard then they should be sent in.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      That was in Dallas Texas. 3 guys showed up w guns. Certainly,they were there for trouble.In Missouri--KKK sent out leaflets telling people they were there.

      And--you think 3 young black men could show up in front of the Dallas pd with guns.....i have a bridge to sell you!

      And I've lived in Tulsa, Minneapolis and Denver--been there, done that.

      And yes--we must agree to disagree....anyone who supports what Israel is doing is no one I can deal with.

      But, it goes along with being pro-Wilson. that it does.


    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      I still don't see a link showing the first comment. Anyone who has a Carry and Conceal permit can tote a gun to the protest. Missouri does have those permits available.

      As for telling the Guard to step down, what you are all asking is for utter chaos.

      The last link talks about the shootings of black and Latino youth, but doesn't look at the high rate these thugs and gang-bangers are shooting at cops and other people. It is like certain terrorist organizations putting children in the buildings that are holding chemical weapons....and then screaming murder when the building is bombed.

      No, even though I know there are many dirty cops, I just cannot fly with your thinking process. Go live in that area of St Louis for 1 month and tell me that cops are not vulnerable. Big difference than Cape Cod--why don't you go to Harlem or the African area of Boston?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      OK, I'll answer....un-equal treatment under the law.

      Why do you, as Americans, think they should just take this lying down....questionmark

      Here is a letter from the Missouri national guard

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      So, 3 white men came to a Ferguson protest with guns. I would like to ask whether 3 black men could do the same....

      I think we all know the answer to that....

      I would like to know what you call this.

    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      Yes, you are correct MsDora.

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      Dora Weithers 

      4 years ago from The Caribbean

      I haven't followed the news on this one, but I'm shocked that the people in these rioting cities have taken that many steps backward in support of racism. We may have to resurrect some of the dead teachers on non-violence to redo their contributions.

    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      Amen to your words crazyhorseghost. I do also agree that Native Americans have the biggest room to yell, but for the most part, they don't. I have watched them grow with the times. They have built casinos and everyone from the tribe gets a piece of the pie.

      Black Americans need to find a similar mindset. We all have issues. I did years in prison and I could scream that I am not treated as fair as the next guy, but the fact of the matter is: life just ain't fair.

      He said it right....Michael Brown was a criminal. He was walking a fine line and the consequences of that line are usually prison or death.

      Thank you all for the great debate and comments.

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      Thomas Byers 

      4 years ago from East Coast , United States

      Its sad that the first thing screamed when a Black man is killed is that it was racial. Its never said well the guy was a criminal. Well this time the news is out there whether people like it or not. Michael Brown was doing some very bad things and was a criminal. I saw the video from the store. Did anyone else. Its very clear on that video that he was a very bad guy. Its not a story being put out. Its the truth plain and simple.

      There are very bad black men out there and very bad white men. Unfortunately the unemployment rate is extremely high with young black men. Many of them turn to crime and drugs, many sell drugs in inner cities in the USA to make money. Many grown , not children young black men are supported by mothers and grandmothers. Its sad the way America has turned out but screaming race is not going to fix it.

      I think the Native Americans have more right to the race card than anyone else. Look at what was done to the red man. But I'm not out screaming race at every white man and showing my a** burning down the property of hard working people of my own race. You know the one man who would never agree with what the Blacks did in St Louis is Martin Luther King. No he would have never agreed with blacks burning black peoples property. I say it is time black people get over it. Its time for them to stop screaming slave when none of them have ever been slaves. And no they are not African American. If they are send them back. They are black Americans. I also say much more was done to the Jewish People by the Germans than was ever done to any other race. No one has ever killed 6 million black people.

      I hate racism as bad as anyone but there does come a time when its time to get over it. Black people need to become Black Americans and forget the slave and Africa crap. Its the only way forward for them. Trying to live in the past will never get you any where. I tried living there in the past. I was my own worse enemy. But I have come full circle and figured out I was wrong. I have moved forward. Its time that all people do.

      Black on black crime is very bad here in the USA. Anyone who does not accept that is living in a dream.

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      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      We could go round and round on this forever. No, you or I do not know how the black person feels nor the Jew or anyone else for that matter who has been stepped on. You also don't know my position, nor do I know yours.

      Where I am coming from is the fact that as long as African Americans, along with others keep screaming about the past instead of looking at the present and future, the end is nowhere.

      One black guy who committed a crime and it was shown he attacked the officer. He was shot. If it would have been you or I doing what Michael Brown did, we would have been shot too. The difference would have been, our deaths would not have made national news.

      Yes, I will say it again...time to stop whining. Yes, mourn the death of a young man, but whining that it was racially charged is out of line. I could scream the same thing the next time I am stopped here in Puerto Rico, but I won't. I will keep on keeping on.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      For the record, I am a white person....and proud of it: Lithuanian and Swedish. Old Country roots...still feel them. And I hate injustice, always have. Let me ask come we still talk about the Holocaust...does anyone ever tell Jews to get over it. No--they don't. They make us all face the fact of the inhumanity and brutality they were subject to.

      It's the same for black Americans here....only it's STILL going on, and no one wants to take it seriously: hence, reactions like the looting and burning. What do you do when no one pays attention decade after decade! Worse--they downplay it as if it's no big deal.

      No big's as bad as the Holocaust, the Holodomor, the Native genocide, and the Nakba.

      TIRED of acting like it's no big is a big deal. And it's not "whining" to point it out.

      Whining is saying: "Stop bothering me with this petty's over, we are not like that anymore.....blah blah blah."

      Tell that to the whole generation of black men we have been locked up in prison.

      I suggest you google the war on drugs, and prisons for profit...: alternet may see how devious it all really is.

      Or keep pretending that it's some fantasy of the whiny black people--why can't they just be like me.......

    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      Wow, you really show some pent up aggression and hate towards white people. The United States is a wide open and free place. If you choose to walk a road of peace and harmony, you can have success. If you always feel someone is out to get you or is holding you down, you will go nowhere.

      My last name was a object of much prejudice when I was young. Did I let that hold me down? No! Black people are not the only people who have had to face injustice and prejudice. Jews, Indians, and yes, some white people too have faced these obstacles. It is what you do with it that determines your fate. You can whine and cry, or you can stand up and walk.

      It is time to get over it and realize that mankind needs to stand together...quit thinking the problem is any one color or race, because that makes you as low as those who are doing you injustice.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      C0-Sign to the max!!---

      "In situations like this, where there's a lot of emotion, conflicting accounts, and a frothing media frenzy, I tend to wait for clear data to come out. I'm not saying I'm unbiased, but I try to keep an open mind until I feel I have a sense of where the good data is. In the case of Michael Brown's death in Ferguson, that involved recognizing that the media was primarily compelled to focus on the rioting and other lurid, sensational aspects of the story with a feigned regretful fascination, as if to say, "How unfortunate that these people don't know how to behave respectfully". Every time I hear someone condemning destruction of property and violence in Ferguson, without also acknowledging the problem of police brutality and unjustified violence, I seethe a bit."

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Here's the true enemy....

      I watched the Ed show.Young black man talked about how he was targeted by poilice. They followed his car...3 trucks of them. Pulled him over, threw him against the car,put a gun to his head.Asked him if he wants to end up like Brown. Did the same to a woman and man with him."What are we being pulled over for"......nothing.Ed says you must have been terrified..Man says No, it's happened to me all my life.

      I don;t know about you--but if some bully with a gun did that to MY kid,,,,,I would want to rip him to shreds.

      But you can't......cause they're "the law". So, you have to just take it year after year after decade after decade.

      THAT is the crime, and white people are doing it.

      Who else should I blame. And why you want to give them a pass is BEYOND me.

      If it happened to would know. Since t happens to black people--you don;t believe it. We actually celebrate the mistreatment and make victims out of the bullies!

      It is time to stand against the enemy: Police brutality against black Americans, and the injustice they suffer in the Just-Us system.

      And pulllease with the double standards.....Americans LOVE'd kill before giving up your guns, wouldn't you...

      We give Hollywood names to our murderous Shock and Awe, or Operation Cast Lead

      This Master Race bs has go to go!

    • Froggy213 profile imageAUTHOR

      Greg Boudonck 

      4 years ago from Returned to an Isla Del Sol - Puerto Rico Will Rise Strong

      Lovemychris, as bill stated, he wasn't there, I wasn't there, and you were not there. The jury all heard the complete investigation and made a decision. You can disagree with it, but to cause violence and to blame all white people is a show of ignorance.

      As crazyhorseghost said, none of the black Americans were slaves and none of the white Americans were slave owners. My family wasn't even over here during slave days....they were still in Belgium.

      It is time to stand against the true enemy. The true enemy isn't every white cop walking the beat. It is those who are doing crime. It is the ones who during peaceful protest are burning cars and buildings and shooting guns.

      There is a proper way to fight injustice if this truly was injustice. The way it is being done is making everything worse.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I see you bought the story too. Can you tell me why the story changed, why he didnt write a report, why he went into hiding.......

      And the kid who was with him never mentioned Brown pounding on Wilson....he said Wilson grabbed Brown by the throat.

      Was this heard by jury.......if not, why

      If so...why didnt they belive it. I have only one word....Whitwash....and yes, literally

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      Thomas Byers 

      4 years ago from East Coast , United States

      I can feel the pain of Michael Brown's parents but after watching the news and reading the testimony given to the Grand Jury the police officer was justified in the shooting. Michael Brown robbed a store keeper of his goods and showed out horribly in the store. This was before the police officer even came on the scene. Then he went wild on the police officer. CNN , Fox , And CBS have all told about this. Its sad that the young man was killed. But he was far from innocent. What is really sad is that the step father of Michael brown incited a riot. He should be tried for his actions.

      As a Native American I can understand the oppression felt from the white man. But I myself have gotten over it. My own Grandmother was stolen from Pineridge Reservation and brought against her will to North Carolina. After her death I returned her ashes to the place of her birth on the Pineridge Reservation.

      There is horrible tension between whites and blacks when this should not be. We are all Americans. None of these black people were ever slaves. None are really African American. They are Americans. Plain and simple. They like myself are their own worst enemy. I have found peace and they need to also. Black on black crime in this country is horrible. Something seriously needs to be done about it. But black people are the only ones that can change this. They burned down the stores and businesses of Black Americans. How does this make any sense at all.

      The poor people of this country, black, white, red and yellow need to join hands and stand up against a government that really does not care for them. The Republicans and Democrats play political spin games and keep people at each others throats. What would they be talking about on CNN if the Michael Brown story was not there. Probably playing more political spin games.

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      Bill Holland 

      4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      It's an impossible question, Greg, so I'll have to bow out of this one. I wasn't there...didn't go through what the key players went through. I totally agree that this is a nation of laws, and laws must be obeyed, but because I wasn't one of the key participants in this, I have no idea of the exact circumstances, and I certainly have no idea what I would do if faced with those circumstances. I only know that this is a tragedy for all concerned, and I'm tired of the violence.

      Happy Thanksgiving my friend. Give Maria my best, please.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Nothing will change until you realise that black and brown children have every right to be safe as your white ones.

      ....and that every black and brown parent feels the same as you do.

      This will be their first Thanksgiving without their son.....just try and imagine that.


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