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The Michael Brown Shooting - Debunking the Hands Up, Don't Shoot Lie

Updated on November 1, 2016

The Mike Brown Shooting | Dispelling The Myths

If you live in the US especially, no doubt by now you have heard about the fatal officer involved shooting that took place in Ferguson, Missouri on August 9th 2014. The shooting involved Officer Darren Wilson a 28 year old, 6 year veteran of the FPD and 18 year old Mike Brown.

The aftermath of this incident has included riots, looting, mass demonstrations and the burning of local businesses in Ferguson and the surrounding areas. This before any evidence was released or the investigation had even a chance to be completed. In the days following this incident, there were many rumors being put forward by “witnesses” to the incident which were later proven to be completely false after the physical evidence had been properly processed and analyzed.

In this Hub I am going address some of the more egregious rumors as well as debunking some of the outrageous notions I have seen put forward by people about how the officer ‘should’ have responded to a life threatening attack. I am going to attempt to separate rumor from reality and also educate on the myths about police work and policing that many seem to have come to believe due to a bit too much reliance on TV and movies for their understanding of what is and isn't real in law enforcement.

This breakdown of the incident is based on three things.

  • My many years in Law Enforcement in a major US city

  • My contact within the St. Louis County, MO Police with direct knowledge of the incident and investigation

  • The evidence and witness statements that have been officially released so far

Myth 1- The Officer Should Have Shot Him In The Leg/Arm Etc.

I begin with this because there is no other myth about police work that drives me up a wall like this one does. People see this kind of stuff in the movies or on shows like CSI and Law & Order and cannot seem to separate a dramatic screenplay from reality.

I cannot emphasize this enough- There is NO shooting to wound in police work, period. No police officer is trained to do so and it would be illegal for any law enforcement agency to have a policy of using deadly force to maim a suspect.

The peripheral hits on Mike brown are not because officer Wilson was aiming for the arms. It was because he was a moving target and officer Wilson had just been assaulted by Brown and his accomplice.

It’s hard enough to hit center mass when you are hurt, your adrenaline is maxed out and there is a 6’-4” 300 lbs. man charging you for the second time who had just attempted to disarm you while punching you several times in the face. At that point your only thought is stopping this threat, so you aim center mass and hope you actually can stop them.

Myth 2 -Mike Brown Was Shot In The Back While Surrendering

No, he wasn’t.

This rumor really made the rounds after this incident and many of us attempted to explain to people that if he was shot in the back there would have been blood stains evident in the picture of Brown lying in the street. There was none and it was quite evident to anyone with any experience in such matters that this was rumor being exploited in order to stir up the already boiling racial tensions.

The autopsies, both of them, showed that all the bullet wounds came from the front. Some tried to claim that the wounds in Brown’s arms happened when he had his hands up and was surrendering but that is not consistent with the locations of the entrance wounds and they did not discuss the wound tracks which would show difinitively the bullet trajectory. I believe there is a reason that it was not mentioned.

Another problem is that it has come out that the person hired by the family of Mike Brown to do the second autopsy is not a licensed Pathologist and Dr. Baden who was brought in as an expert by the family’s lawyer did not conduct the autopsy but simply reviewed and signed off on the this non-qualified persons report.

This Would explain why the normally media whorish Dr. Baden has not done a single interview on the subject

The Ferguson Effect - Policing A Divided nation

The Ferguson Effect: Policing A Divided Nation
The Ferguson Effect: Policing A Divided Nation

Being a cop has always been a tough job.

In August of 2014, a single incident in Ferguson, Missouri made it even tougher for police officers all over the country. That incident was the officer-involved shooting death of Michael Brown. The rioting and destruction that followed, spurred on by outside racist revolutionary agitators and the sympathetic anti-cop propaganda from the mainstream media, has caused a tectonic shift in the way police officers around the country approach their job.


Myth 3- He Should Not Have Shot Him So Many Times

This one always makes me want to vomit. And when I hear it I know that I am dealing with someone who knows nothing about firearms or their use in the real world, and has certainly never, ever been in an armed encounter.

When you are in fear for your life or the life of another and you feel the use of deadly force is your only option, then you fire until the threat is neutralized. If it takes 6 rounds or 20 rounds, you fire until you feel the threat no longer exists, there is no “proper” number of rounds. The only proper number of rounds is that amount that stops the aggression of the person putting lives in danger.

You should also note that one is legally allowed to use deadly force to prevent death or great bodily harm. This a very important distinction to keep in mind

Myth 4- But He Was Unarmed!!!

Indeed, Mike Brown did not have a firearm or other weapon in his hand when Officer Wilson shot him. But it was not for a lack of trying to become armed. And what do you think his intentions were had he been able to disarm Officer Wilson?

Consider the case in Texas of a man named Michael Fobbs for example. Fobbs approached a man in an Amtrak station and beat him with his fists until he was dead. Would his victim not have been authorized to use deadly force because Fobbs was ‘unarmed’? Of course he would have, and no one would argue otherwise.

And consider too the recent phenomenon of the ‘Knockout Game’ where groups of thugs randomly target innocent persons in an attempt to knock them out with one punch while filming it to post on Youtube.

Now what if these same hoodlums decided that, today, they were going to take it to the next level and kill someone? They now have a helpless, unconscious victim to beat to death.

Mike Brown outweighed Officer Wilson by at least 100 lbs. and he had already shown his willingness to batter and try to disarm him. Officer Wilson could not afford to allow Brown another attempt to wrest his sidearm from his control. That would have very likely ended in Officer Wilson being shot to death by Brown, and I am certain he knew this.

Mike Brown’s family has only one person to blame for the death of their son.

That person is Mike Brown himself.


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      4 years ago

      I forgot to add, in the case above where the unarmed WHITE man was shot by a BLACK police officer, it made the news for exactly 3 days.

      3 days. No riots, no crime, no chaos, no destroying businesses that had nothing to do with any of it, no all encompassing statements declaring this young man was innocent of everything.

      In fact, his own parents, while lamenting his death and expressing their deep sadness and concern merely said, that they didn't hold anything against the officer, he was just doing his job the best way he knows how and probably thinking of his own family. THeir exact words were, "... I just wish they could have known the artist who was my son and all the love he had to give. He had more love I his heart than all the world contains in hate."

      Enough said.

      What does THAT tell you?

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      4 years ago

      I think there are defined problems on both sides of the spectrum here. I have my opinions, but honestly, I don't think opinion matters much here.

      What I see as fact is what has been mentioned. Unfortunately, on BOTH sides, I think ppl are too quick to judge in a situation they have no clue about. If someone breaks into your home and attacks you, who's to say how many shots it takes to take you down and alleviate that threat? Perhaps you find out later, the guy was unarmed and maybe he was just after some bread to feed his family. Does that make you feel any less threatened at the time when you know your wife, daughter, son, or husband, perhaps elderly mother/father is upstairs?

      I don't think so... Maybe you're just thinking of yourself and leaving your parents behind, or your spouse, children etc.

      In any case, split second decisions require much more than ppl can ascertain sometimes in a few minutes or seconds that the events unfold and take place.

      THat is the unfortunate truth.

      Maybe this kid wasn't such a bad person. But he obviously made bad decisions, given that he was involved in a robbery and threatened a person only moments before this event. No matter what you think of him, you cannot deny this FACT. He made someone else feel vulnerable, at risk for their life, and THEIR life or loss thereof could have left so many ppl affected.

      I don't think there were any winners in this equation. Perhaps someone made some bad decisions and joined the wrong crowd, not expecting things to get so out of hand. Perhaps drugs were involved, and they weren't in their right mind. Perhaps ppl at the other end of the spectrum had no clue what was going to happen, and indeed, if you have a job where you face your own mortality every day, how could you really? When you have only moments, seconds, to decide whther your life is at risk or not, what do YOU think if someone is rushing you, running towards you, and it is unclear where their hands are? What would YOU think,.... lets forget about color, let's think only of you and your life and thinking of what your family will be left with....

      Think of this. Three wks after this incident, there was a similar situation, only this time, there was a black police officer who shot an unarmed white young man when he reached his hand into his pocket to retrieve a cigarette. He didn't rush him, he didn't grapple with him while the officer was in his vehicle, he simply reached into his pocket with a smile on his face, offering the guy a smoke before the bullet hit him in the chest, killing him instantly, living only long enough to etch a surprised look onto his young face... never to know his unborn son left behind.

      This young man was stopped because he had sprayed graffiti on a building. Not because he had robbed a store, or threatened anyone or held anyone at gunpoint, or was otherwise occupied in some malevolent behavior. He sprayed graffiti, (actually painted a beautiful underwater mural) on the side of a building.

      Society has a lot to answer for.

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      4 years ago

      Again I am going to approve for the sake of discussion. All cops are definitely NOT white as you claim. I have worked with officers of every ethnicity from Caucasian to Samoan, and everything in between.

      Maybe the bigger question should be why more blacks don't apply for law enforcement jobs and why many are not able to pass the hiring process, or wash out in the academy. This is not a job you interview for on Friday and start on Monday.

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      4 years ago

      Well I think america needs more black faces in law enforcement. It seems like all cops are white. If I was a cop I would prefer to be black skinned for sure.

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      4 years ago

      I'm going to approve your comment but the only part I agree with is that if the officer had been black this would not have been an issue. That much is true.

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      big daddy oreo 

      4 years ago

      This is a classic case of hang the white man out to dry. If darren wilson was a black cop that shot michael brown he would not be getting horassed by the and the media. The white man is a modern day scapegoat.

      this is what needs to happen. They need to take all the white law enforcement team and have them go undercover as black cops. If the police were black nobody would mess with them and they would get more respect. Al sharpton might be out of work because there would be no more white cops to horass but that is his problem.

      Always use black hands to handle your black enemies. White skin is a race card magnet. Have white bosses go undercover as black bosses to get more productivity out of black employees.

      watch the movies lean on me and coach carter to see how much power a black voice has when dealing with black knucklheads. The white may only be one race change away from getting better results.


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