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The Russian Collusion Hoax Conspiracy

Updated on April 5, 2019
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James A. Watkins is an entrepreneur, musician, and a writer with three non-fiction books and hundreds of magazine articles read by millions.

The Mueller Probe

The Mueller Investigation has ended. Its conclusion: No collusion. No one connected to President Trump colluded with Russia to sway our elections.

Mueller used 19 lawyers, all of whom were friends or supporters of Hillary Clinton, and forty FBI agents, to investigate Donald Trump and all who knew him. Mueller had an army of support staff and unlimited funds to try to dig up dirt on the President, his family, his friends, his campaign workers, and his supporters.

The cost to American taxpayers will be around $35 million. Not to mention untold millions in attorney fees, missed work, and other expenses for those unfortunate souls who had to answer these inquiries. Five hundred witnesses were interviewed, 500 search warrants executed, and 2,800 subpoenas issued.

For 700 straight days, the American people were told that President Trump was a Russian agent and his election was due to fraud by Russia. It was all a lie. Dozens of laws were broken all right—in the conspiracy to frame Donald Trump.

This has been the worst scandal in American history: Spying on an opponent in presidential election; the FBI and Department of Justice working for Obama to ensure the election to Hillary Clinton; trying stop the inauguration of President Trump; nefariously making it difficult for him to govern once in office by bogging him down in limitless hours of defending himself when he could be working for the good of the country; attempting to overthrow a freely elected government; launching a special counsel investigation of a sitting president when there was never any evidence of any underlying crime.

Whole books have been written about this subject. I will explain what happened in as few words as possible.

It All Began with Benghazi

The Benghazi Attack sparked the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. The New York Times revealed that Hillary had a secret computer server on which she was illegally storing, receiving and sending classified government documents. When Congress issued subpoenas to see these emails, Hillary responded by ‘disappearing’ 33,000 of them, wiping her server clean with BleachBit, and smashing her Blackberries with hammers.

Hillary had used her office as Secretary of State to make her husband and herself rich by trading influence for cash.

After former President Bill Clinton secretly met with Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch on an airport tarmac, the FBI and DOJ decided there would be no more investigation into Hillary; no subpoenas, no search warrants, no grand jury impaneled. Five of her aides were granted immunity for some mysterious reason. Also, the Director of the FBI, James Comey destroyed the laptops of the five, even though Congress had issued subpoenas for them.

Meanwhile, Hillary was interviewed by Trump-hating FBI agent Peter Strzok. She lied under oath that she had turned over all her emails, and 39 times Hillary claimed she couldn't remember key things that happened because she had hurt her head. Comey announced the case was closed and drafted a letter exonerating Hillary of any wrongdoing, while his right-hand man, Andrew McCabe, another hater of Donald Trump, order an investigation of the Clinton Foundation shut down.

It is clear that Comey and McCabe were involved in a plot to make sure Hillary became the President of the United States by hook or crook. There is no doubt President Obama was in on it. His people worked night and day to smear Trump through lies they leaked to the press.

Obama had already weaponized the federal bureaucracy to destroy his political opponents. The ‘Deep State’ or ‘Swamp’—the millions of employees of the Federal Bureaucracy—are overwhelmingly Democrats and supported Hillary over Trump by a 19-1 margin. So they were willing to do anything help her defeat him. They hated Trump, his deplorable supporters, and his agenda of putting America First.

Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton
Loretta Lynch
Loretta Lynch

Hillary Clinton Gets the Ball Rolling

In the summer before the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton conspired with the Democratic National Committee to hire a filthy outfit called Fusion GPS (founder Glenn Simpson) to dig up some dirt on Donald Trump. Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele, a British secret agent man who despised the Donald, to invent a salacious but fictional dossier on Trump that could be used by Obama’s people to launch a spying operation on Trump and his campaign.

So the entire Russian Collusion Hoax was thought up by a foreigner to interfere in our presidential election – but not for Trump – AGAINST TRUMP! Steele’s day job was working for guess who? RUSSIANS! Not only that but they were the very same Russians who set up the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting that supposedly proved Trump was colluding with Russia.

Fusion GPS hired Nellie Ohr, an expert in using disinformation to create illusions, who also happened to be the wife of top DOJ Attorney Bruce Ohr. Nellie worked with Steele to create the Steele Dossier that falsely claimed Trump worked for Russia. The Dossier was given to Nellie’s husband, and his friend at the FBI, the Trump-hating Peter Strzok so that they would wiretap and surveil Trump, his family, and his campaign.

Bruce Ohr, with Strzok and his FBI attorney girlfriend Lisa Page, applied for surveillance warrants from a special, secret, counterterrorism FISA Court, which they got. Ohr has recently testified that the application for the FISA warrant was based on lies because he had told all concerned that the Dossier was a hoax. They had to lie to hide the fact that Hillary and the DNC had paid for the Dossier to be created. All this was to make sure Hillary won the election.

Hillary lost the election. Within 24 hours she and her inner circle concocted a scheme whereby they would leak to the press that she was cheated out of the presidency by Trump and Russia. She hoped the election results would be overturned before Trump was inaugurated and she would be somehow declared the rightful president.

John Brennan
John Brennan

John Brennan

The main actor in the conspiracy to frame Donald Trump was John Brennan. He worships Obama, for whom he served as Director of the CIA, and longed for Hillary to be elected so he could remain in his position. He loathes Donald Trump because Brennan is a Communist and a Muslim.

Brennan supported the Soviet Union against America during the Cold War and supported the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamic Jihad while serving Obama. This is the kind of person Obama put in charge of the CIA.

It is Brennan who has told the world hundreds of times that the President of the United States is “an agent of the Kremlin,” is “guilty of treason,” and is “a traitor who will be arrested any day now.”

Brennan had staffed the CIA with radical leftist globalists who engaged in espionage against our president. He and they hate Trump’s patriotism and nationalism. It was Brennan who spread the false rumor that Trump had been a Russian agent for 12 years and that Russia groomed him to become president since 2009.

The CIA under Brennan never tried to hide its feelings, festooning its offices with ‘Hillary for President’ campaign paraphernalia.

James Comey
James Comey

James Comey

FBI Director James Comey authorized the FISA warrants and surveillance of the Trump Campaign based on the Steele Dossier that he knew was fabricated. He and his cohorts lied to the FISA judge to obtain the warrants. The FBI did not tell Congress about the investigation for a year, another clear violation.

Comey and a “small group” in the FBI, led by Strzok, Page, and McCabe, initiated ‘Operation Crossfire Hurricane’ to ‘get Trump,’ July 31, 2016. Comey has admitted under oath that he intentionally triggered the Special Counsel Investigation by his good friend Robert Mueller by leaking lies to the New York Times.

Andrew McCabe
Andrew McCabe
Susan Rice
Susan Rice

The FBI & DOJ

After Comey was fired, his friend and partner in crime Andrew McCabe took over the FBI—another hater of Donald Trump. McCabe was hostile to Trump’s political views and said, “We need to rein him in,” and covertly “raise concerns about his behavior.”

The texts between Strzok and his lover Page show them conspiring to “open a case against Trump while Andy” McCabe is in charge. Now the FBI has finally admitted there was never any evidence Trump “worked for the Russians” as they once claimed to spur an unconstitutional inquisition. There was, from the start, “No evidence” that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election.

After Trump became President, the great fear in the FBI and DOJ was that all they had done to conspire to keep Trump out of office would come to light, and many of them would go to prison. Or at the least, lose their careers. They needed to divert attention away from what they had done, which were real crimes, such as spying on innocent American citizens for no reason whatsoever except you don't like them. Such as wrongly absolving Hillary Clinton of her many felonies.

The chants at Trump rallies directed at Hillary, “Lock her up!’ really rattled the conspirators. The Clintons have done lots to be locked up for, but their underlings know the Clinton Way would mean they would take the fall for Hillary. So “Lock her up” was even more frightening to Hillary and Obama’s minions who did the dirty work.

First, they would set up Trump Chief of Staff Michael Flynn, because he knew what they had been up to. Flynn was accused of lying under oath even though Comey said he did not lie. Keep in mind that investigators can put you in a perjury trap: “Did you write an email to Bob Jones last October 30th?” You say no because you simply forgot. They say, “Yes you did! We found it while spying on you. You lied under oath!”

Don’t you believe it? You know how Facebook pops those little things up there that say, “Five years ago you posted this or that”? Many times things have popped up, and I think, “I don’t remember ever posting that.”

Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice would be on the hot seat for spying on Trump and his people. She also illegally unmasked their names and personal information from secret documents and gave them to the press and various Deep State agencies, while additionally passing around the contents of the phony Dossier.

Obama had taken a big gamble. The gamble was that the Deep State could find dirt on any person if they look hard enough. If you spy on a large group of individuals long enough some technical illegality is bound to crop up when you have 833,000 federal laws that few have read and very few understand.

Peter Strzok
Peter Strzok
Lisa Page
Lisa Page

The Media

Most of the media were all in for Hillary and showed an insatiable hatred for Donald Trump and his voters, especially CNN, MSNBC, the Washington Post and the New York Times. Trump had ruined the progressive dream of having sixteen consecutive years with which to destroy America for good. The Media pushed Russia Collusion story because it desperately wished Trump would be found a traitor or at least perceived to be guilty of something.

The Post and the Times won Pulitzer Prizes for erroneously reporting that President Trump was guilty of treason. The Post bragged that it caused the Mueller Investigation. Phony allegation after phony allegation were trotted out almost daily as “bombshells” with “The Walls are closing in on Trump” the favorite phrase. All based on anonymous sources.

The Pulitzer Prize Award Statement says: “For deeply sourced, relentlessly reported coverage in the public interest that dramatically furthered the nation's understanding of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and its connections to the Trump campaign, the President-elect's transition team, and his eventual administration.”

“Trump is being blackmailed by Russia! ” “Trump committed Treason!" For 791 consecutive days, this was rammed into the ears and eyes of average Americans. Twenty percent of all political coverage by CNN and MSNBC was about ‘Russiagate.” CNN’s Don Lemon flat out declared, “The President is a Russian Agent!”

Obama’s Director of National Intelligence turned CNN expert James Clapper agreed, publicly stating that Trump was guilty of treason, an agent of Russia, and Russia swung the election.

All lies. Surely they couldn’t be making this up? Could they?

It just came out in the last few days that Clapper has confessed that President Obama personally ordered the investigation into Donald Trump and his people. Mueller’s Investigation, Clapper said, “President Obama is responsible for that.”

Rachel Maddow of CNN cried on camera when she had to report that the President of the United States is not a traitor to his country. However, now she tells her Trump-hating audience that maybe Robert Mueller, who she previously adored, is covering up for Trump. For two years, Maddow has devoted nearly all of her nightly shows to spewing hatred onto Donald Trump and pumping up the Russia Hoax.

Most of the Main Stream Media has vomited hatred on President Trump and his supporters non-stop since he was elected. Moreover, they made piles of money doing it. Democrat voters were made to hate Trump by the media, and they rewarded the press for their lies handsomely by buying the papers and tuning in to their broadcasts. Even today, CNN defends what they did: “We just reported the facts.” Carl Bernstein, even now, says, “The reporting was fabulous.”

By the way, one of the longtime allegations by Hillary was that Trump guided the Russians in how to use Facebook to swindle the election away from her. Facebook Vice President of Advertising, Rob Goldman, stated that Russian ads couldn't have affected the election, because most of them came after the vote.

He also said, "I have seen all of the Russian ads, and I can say very definitely that swaying the election was NOT the main goal. We have shared that fact, but very few media outlets have covered it because it doesn't align with the main media narrative of Trump and the election."

The Russians spent $150,000 on Facebook ads. As James Freeman has taught the world: "So the spending on fake Russian political ads identified by Facebook amounted to around 1/7,000th of what Mrs. Clinton spent on advertising. And of course, these fake ad buys were not material in the context of Facebook’s total advertising revenues, which amounted to nearly $27 billion last year. Russian meddling was simply intended to discredit the likely winner."

James Clapper
James Clapper

John McCain and Adam Schiff

Pencil-necked Congressman Adam Schiff has played a significant role in this conspiracy to overthrow our government. In hundreds of media appearances he insisted that, as a member of House Committee on Intelligence, he had seen secret “damning evidence” in private that “will come out” that “proves Trump colluded with the Russians” to steal the election.

John McCain was also involved. He hated Trump with a passion. McCain’s underling David Kramer testified he showed the Steele Dossier to McCain and then they gave it to the Justice Department. Kramer even flew to London to meet Steele in person, and it was Kramer who later gave the Dossier to the Guardian, Mother Jones, ABC News, NPR, the Washington Post, CNN, and Buzzfeed.

Every contender for the 2020 Democratic nomination has expressed belief in the Russia Collusion Hoax.

John McCain
John McCain
Adam Schiff
Adam Schiff

Robert Mueller

Mueller’s only job was to find out if Donald Trump or his campaign conspired with the Russian government to steal the presidency. He found Trump and his campaign innocent but declined to investigate the real criminals involved in the conspiracy. Them he protected.

The Left loved Mueller because they thought he would get Trump out of the White House. Vogue said Mueller, age 74, was “America’s newest crush. He can evoke shades of Humphrey Bogart and has mastered a nearly Zoolander-esque gaze.”

Vanity Fair proclaimed, “Mueller Won the Hearts of America.” Spike Lee wore a t-shirt that screamed, “GOD PROTECT ROBERT MUELLER.” Chelsea Handler tweeted, “I’m starting to have a real crush on Mueller.” Stephen Colbert said Mueller reminded him of Batman.

Mueller was charged with finding out the genesis of the Steel Dossier and how it was used and by whom, when, where, and for what. Did Mueller investigate or interrogate Steele, Simpson, Fusion GPS, Hillary, and the DNC? Did he delve into what all was done by Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe, and others to smear Trump? No. His only focus was on Trump and all his associates, to find something, anything, any of them had ever done wrong regardless if it was related in any way to the campaign, the election, or Trump himself at all.

Mueller had to have known from the beginning there was no collusion. President Trump was accused of treason, and Mueller knew it wasn't true, but he never would say so. That way he could continue to harass and humiliate Trump's friends and keep the conspiracy alive long enough to ensure massive Democratic turnout in the midterms so they could take back the House.

Mueller did what he was supposed to do for the Deep State: Derail the goals of the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump, and stop him from ‘draining the swamp,’ by casting a cloud over his presidency. Moreover, it stoked hatred amongst our citizenry, turning neighbor against neighbor, sister against brother.

Robert Mueller
Robert Mueller
President Barack Hussein Obama
President Barack Hussein Obama

The Russia Collusion Hoax Conspiracy: The Greatest Scandal in American History

There was no evidence ever that President Trump or anybody else colluded with Russia. Not a single American has been charged with conspiring with Russia. The worst conspiracy in American History, the Crime of the Century, was the criminal behavior by Hillary and Obama and their henchmen.

Hillary feared arrest and Obama feared a tarnished legacy. So for the first time in American history a sitting president, Obama spied on a candidate for his office and spied on him during the interim before Trump's inauguration. Obama's political appointees continued to spy on Trump and his family and associates for months afterward, all the while leaking false information to the press designed to make the American People despise their President.

Everyone loyal to Obama and Hillary feared arrest for what they had done and so went on the attack: “Him! He is the criminal, not us!”

Hillary really did collude with Russia, but there was no special investigation of her. She accepted bribes from Russians in the millions of dollars for 20% of America’s national uranium stock so they could build nuclear weapons to aim at us. She also colluded with China, sharing state secrets with them in return for cash. Obama was informed in 2015 that copies of Hillary’s emails were being sent to China.

She and Obama essentially accused Trump of their own crimes, typical leftist psychological projection. The Dossier was a compilation of lies, guess where from? Russia. Christopher Steele himself has now testified that nothing in the Dossier was true. Tens of millions of taxpayer’s money blown for nothing.

The entire Mueller Probe was a coverup, a never before seen attempt to take down a sitting president, to thwart the Will of We the People. Much like Brexit, the globalists will not accept what the People want. They will try to force upon us what they want.

All decent Americans should be happy that the President of the United States has turned out not to be a Russian agent and traitor. But are Democrats happy? No, they are not. They are sobbing and whining and they hate the world now.

After Clinton and the DNC paid a foreign agent to smear Trump, Obama secretly demanded a full investigation. He met with McCabe and Lisa Page to be fully briefed and told them to keep him abreast of developments.

Because of the hatred of President Trump by the Deep State and the Media, and their fervent desire to destroy him, they have done horrible damage to our country. They have tarnished the office of the presidency, our republic, the image of the media, the belief in the goodness of the DOJ and FBI and intelligence community, the legitimacy of our elections, and families across our land.

Imagine the time and resources the administration had to expend to defend against this. Imagine the disruption in the lives of all the witnesses.

Under the direction of Barrack Hussein Obama, the FBI and DOJ conspired to let Hillary off the hook for treasonous crimes so she would become president. They conspired to frame Donald Trump and for the first time in history surveilled the communications of a presidential candidate to try and entrap him and his friends and family. They used known-to-be-fake information to get a warrant from a friendly FISA judge but never told the judge that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party produced their bogus evidence. FISA is to fight terrorism!

The FBI leaks to the press were intended to make Candidate Trump look bad to voters. We give the FBI deadly force and secrecy. The worst thing it can do is to take sides in a political campaign, to sway elections, or try to undermine a freely elected president or use its powers to help people whose politics it likes and punish people whose politics it doesn't like.

To defraud the little guy and his vote; to overthrow our government; to foment mob violence on our streets and revolution; to use the DOJ, FBI, and earlier the IRS, EPA and other government agencies, to your punish your political opponents is to weaponize our government just like the KGB was used under Josef Stalin.

Trump said he was being spied upon—the Democrats and news media said he was just paranoid. However, he was correct. This whole conspiracy makes Watergate look like child’s play.

The most shocking thing of all this: As of yesterday 84% of Democrats still believe in the Russia Collusion Hoax.

President Donald Trump
President Donald Trump

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    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Glenn Stok ~ Thank you. I got your message via Facebook and I appreciate it. It is chock full of good advice, which I will take to heart. Good on you!

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      James A Watkins 

      3 days ago from Chicago

      Thanks for sharing your experiences with me, T.

    • Glenn Stok profile image

      Glenn Stok 

      4 days ago from Long Island, NY

      I assure you it has nothing to do with viewpoint discrimination.

      Those form letters are cryptic because they expect you to read the guidelines. I see several important things that need to be fixed to meet the standards required for a niche site and to satisfy Google.

      These unrelated comments don’t help the hub either, so I will send you more detail via FB messenger and we can take it up there so I can help you accomplish this.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      4 days ago from now on

      I’m not surprised James but before I stopped writing they kept begging me to submit some of my sites. I gave in on one and after it was there for a year they made changes to it without notifying me, changes that showed they knew nothing about biology, deleted a couple of my pics meant to shed a little humor on the topic and even deleted many comments from the article (which were on topic btw).

      Since then I’ve been asked to submit articles every so often and when I say never and complain about my experience they just keep on asking me to submit the same articles. I’ve been asked to submit my article “I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist...” 3 times since I republished it. I know what they would do to it if I accepted - what a joke!

      I keep telling them I don’t try to make money from my articles but they don’t care I guess as long as they are making money from them.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      5 days ago from Chicago

      Glenn Stok ~ I am sad to report that within a few hours they turned me down flat on the request to put this article on SoapBoxie. They gave no reason outside of a form letter that made no sense in regard to this particular article. I have a feeling it is viewpoint discrimination.

      But thank you very much for all the knowledge you shared with me. I especially did not know that the comments are part of the article to Google. Fascinating.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      5 days ago from Chicago

      Maybe so, T, maybe so.

    • Glenn Stok profile image

      Glenn Stok 

      5 days ago from Long Island, NY

      Per your last comment James, Google ranks based on a number of criteria. When they detect keyword stuffing, they reduce ranking. Unrelated keywords cause Google bots to either get confused and index your article incorrectly, or reduce ranking for keyword stuffing.

      Bots don’t know the difference between the main article and it’s comment section. HubPages doesn’t care, but Google will react to it as I described.

      When HubPages first announced this issue a long time ago, I deleted all comments that had poor grammar, misspellings, and off topic. It took a while for Google to react to it, but eventually it helped with increased traffic and earnings. I discuss theses things in my tutorials.

      Now, this comment itself is off topic, so feel free to keep it just for yourself rather than approving it here.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      5 days ago from now on

      Well James, sounds like you have a lot of deleting to do! Lol

      Fine with me.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      5 days ago from Chicago

      Glenn Stok ~ Seriously? This is the first I've heard of a Hub being penalized if someone makes a comment off topic. I must confess that many times discussions prompted by my Hubs have gone down rabbit holes that ended up not directly connected to the original article. Off on tangents, sparked by the original topic to be sure, but going down other roads. I never knew that was any kind of offense.

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      Glenn Stok 

      6 days ago from Long Island, NY

      James - Great. It will make a big difference. You can submit one every 14 days until you get them all moved. Only stellar articles get moved, but you do well with that. No need to approve this reply since it doesn’t match the subject, which is important for high ranking.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 days ago from Chicago

      T ~ THANKS!

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 days ago from Chicago

      Glann Stok ~ Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I certainly agree with your analysis: "I could see that they were doing everything to divert attention away from what they had done ever since Benghazi. It immediately became clear to me when Hillary was subpoenaed to turn over her emails and she deleted them instead, that some serious crime had to be hidden from the public."

      I so appreciate your gracious compliments. And I took your advice: I submitted this article to Soapboxie this afternoon. Thanks for the encouragement!

    • tsadjatko profile image

      6 days ago from now on

      Amen to that sentiment Glenn!

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      Glenn Stok 

      6 days ago from Long Island, NY

      I don’t get into political discussions online, but having read your article, I felt the urge to complement you James. However, I will not follow up in discussion here. Having said that...

      I could see that they were doing everything to divert attention away from what they had done ever since Benghazi. It immediately became clear to me when Hillary was subpoenaed to turn over her emails and she deleted them instead, that some serious crime had to be hidden from the public. They have succeeded as far as convincing those who listen to opinion rather than news.

      Now I read your article and I see that you put it all together with clear explanations and great research. You need to get this article into soapboxie, HubPages' niche site where it will get Google traffic. Your writing deserves to be there.

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      James A Watkins 

      12 days ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ Latinos have been replacing black AND white players. The major leagues were once 100% white and now are only 62%.

      I will go over and check out your new article. Congratulations on being featured.

      Did you catch Mark Levin last night? That Eastman fella was fascinating. I subscribe to the Claremont Review of Books, one of my favorite publications.

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      James A Watkins 

      12 days ago from Chicago

      T ~ I think that in sports and in life the cream rises to the top and that this is natural and can be observed the world over. Thomas Sowell has written quite a bit about it. The Left wants to artificially change reality to suit their ideal of how the world ought to be. Me, I'm for world peace and ending world hunger and war. Oh wait . . . that was my Ms. America speech.

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      NOYFOB 

      2 weeks ago

      James

      I didn't connect with OJ being the tipping point, but it makes sense.

      And it is interesting that major league baseball has been filled with Latinos knocking out the black players. I play playstation baseball and you could make a South American league for MLB.

      BTW, I was amazed when the article I just published today became featured. Only 25% of my articles get featured.

      This is going to be a 3 part on the Mueller 10 obstructions. A Dr Mark Bear wrote a piece opining about the Mueller report and the 10 acts of obstruction.

      My opinion is what kind of justice is there when they try to find conspiracy of Trump and Russia to influence the election, and they don't find Trump, Russia or any influence on the election.

      Although Mueller indicted 13 Russians, they pleaded not guilty and the case has not gone to trial. But the Mueller report tries to make the indictment the same as if the Russians were found guilty in a court of law. So much for the presumption of innocence.

      BTW, once you are a subject of a crime, you will never be returned to being innocent. In fact, there is no plea even that say innocent. It is either guilty, not guilty, or nolo contendre (which is basically guilty but you can't use it for a civil trial as proof of liabilty).

      When the judge or the jury come up with the verdict, it will be guilty or not guilty. And not guilty is not being found innocent. This was evident in the OJ Simpson verdict. Not a good example if the defendant was really guilty, but you get the idea.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      2 weeks ago from now on

      Um, the reason they are crying that there are only 8% blacks in baseball is that according to racial equality activist Richard Lapchick, the NBA in 2015 was composed of 74.4 percent black players, 23.3 percent white players, 1.8 percent Latino players of any race, and 0.2 percent Asian players.

      At the start of the 2014 season, NFL surveys revealed that the league was approximately 68% African-American and about 28% white, with the remaining 4% comprising Asian/Pacific Islander, non-white Hispanics, and those preferring a Mixed Race category.

      Now how do you account for that? Are the NBA and NFL racist against whites? Or is baseball just inherently a racist sport?

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ No, O.J. Simpson was not enough for them. In fact, the day he was acquitted and pictures beamed across America of black folks jumping for joy over it was the day our current race problems began. Until that day, it seemed we had become pretty much one people, at least much more than in the past. But that . . . white folks were truly shocked that any of their fellow Americans would cheer the acquittal of an obvious cold blooded murderer because his victims were white.

      As you say so well, "The democrats keep harping on racism and yet they are the racists." You got that right.

      I just read the other day that Asian-Americans now make more income than whites.

      I also saw the other a story in USA Today crying that there are 'only' 8% African Americans in Major League Baseball (less than the percentage of the general public). They forgot that today over 30% of the players are Latinos and many of them are just as black. Anyway . . .

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ I see what you are saying. Well, I guess they did the best they could. ;)

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      2 weeks ago

      James

      Thanks. As for the black community, if they believe that birds of color stick together then they will never get their sought after equality. Isn't one OJ Simpson enough for them to disregard color and look at the deeds, or misdeeds.

      The important point about the 450 former prosecutors is their actions are actually influencing the 2020 election. There is no legal reason for them to do that letter, only motive is to have the Mueller mull continue to work in favor of the democrats as it did in 2018.

      As for the 11 obstructions that Mueller didn't indict, that is another political action. There is no serving of justice to even entertain going after the president for obstruction.

      First, Mueller seems to think he can't indict a sitting president, yet he wants congress to continue his investigation, after Mueller fully exonerated president Trump on the reason that the investigation was created. That was from the Comey Mueller meeting before Comey testified before congress. But there was no investigation into Comey or Mueller, but it is similar to the Bill Clinton Loretta Lynch meeting.

      Neither the Comey, nor the Mueller was slowed down much less interfered with by president Trump. That coupled with the exoneration should have had Congress apologize to the president Trump, and not try for another investigation. This is what they did with the Kavanaugh hearing. That hearing like the Comey, Mueller investigation was politically motivated by the democrats as part of their plan to resist the president. But, they didn't get investigated?

      Racism is really when they try to continue the one drop of black blood to determine race. This used to work against the black because it did foster racism. But today, that test is working to their advantage to give them immunity from poor performance, and shady as well as criminal activity.

      The democrats keep harping on racism and yet they are the racists. They are using it to make Obama who is definitely half black and half white into an all black president to make him bullet proof.

      But doing that is Racism.

      Why is it that it is hard to find white people in many sports?

      The fact is that with all the interracial babies and with this increasing everyday what is the point of simply using color to determine race.

      The blacks appear to be the only people that have a problem and a benefit with their color. The Asians are both yellow, and brown, and their color or race doesn't stop them or impinge on their ability to get good jobs.

      It is not color that defines the person, it is who they are and what they can do for themselves.

      Finally, it is racist to go after a white president, while putting a black president above the law, and letting a white woman go free just because of what they are and not what they did?

      How does that paradigm fit in with the democrats, blacks, and illegal aliens demand for equality. If they want equality, investigate Obama, Hillary and do it equally with what they did to president Trump.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      2 weeks ago from now on

      As to the 450 prosecutors, obviously Mueller made the wrong decisions on the 17 lawyers he hired for his team. Seems like he got the B-team instead of the A-team from the 450 that would prosecute obstruction. Even though his B-team all gave to Hiliary’s campaign guess they couldn’t push Mueller over the edge.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ You are quite welcome. I do not believe Obama will ever be investigated. Because he is half-black. Any investigation into him would outrage the black community not matter what he has done and the first minute the charge of racism would be hurled in the air no matter what evidence there is for his crimes.

      The 450 former prosecutors are all Democrats, obviously.

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      NOYFOB 

      2 weeks ago

      James

      Thanks for the link, I couldn't get the one from there about Hillary. But it looks promising and I liked the quote from Comey, ,,, and that is when I got fired. I still don't know if there was anything.

      What was missing is there should be an investigation as to Obama, specifically when it was said by Stryrok and Page that he wanted to be kept informed. The left keeps talking about prosecuting Trump when he is out of office, well Obama is out of office, so full speed ahead to the Obama crimes uncovered.

      Until, they do Obama they are just rattling a rusty saber.

      I am interested in your comment on the 450 former fed prosecutors.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

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      NOYFOB 

      2 weeks ago

      James

      I guess we will have to wait and see about those investigations.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ Yes, I must say not building the wall and not repealing Obamacare left me very disappointed.

      As for the investigations you suggest, I do believe they are happening.

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      NOYFOB 

      2 weeks ago

      James

      The point is that the republicans lost the opportunity to make a difference before 2018, and they couldn't make a difference now if they tried. They don't appear to be trying at all.

      Ryan and McCain left on their own, so that doesn't count for republicans doing it.

      Do you really want people like Mitt Romney to be a leader in the republican party?

      Exactly what is the republican political platform, and back track it to 2017 to today to see if there is any change or continuity?

      That is why, if I were president Trump, I would run as an independent. It would be a real vote of confidence. It would separate those that want Trump from those that work against Trump.

      For Trump it would be a no lose venture. If he wins then the vote is confident, and if he loses he would have taken the country off of the resist Trump and maybe back on to MAGA even without Trump, doubful?

      The democrats would have to deal with the republican, and Trump. The republican would have to deal with the democrats and Trump. Neither the republicans nor the democrats have done anything for the country and the people. Trump is the only one that can run on performance and putting the country and its people first.

      If a republican or a democrat could beat Trump running as an independent, then the people don't deserve MAGA. Trump is the only one that even cares about MAGA.

      The democrat voters do what they always do follow the party, but the republican voters are a disappointment. Even more disappointing are the Trump voters that would vote for someone else.

      As for the topic of this article, the republicans with the Mueller report in and available should be now moving swiftly to investigate what Mueller didn't investigate. Starting with Mueller and Comey over their conspiracy to get a special counsel. And then include Rosenstein who fired Comey and then appoints Mueller. If this had happened to the democrats and Hillary you can imagine their rage. I expect the republicans and Trump to do what the democrats would have done.

      The investigation should start leading up to when the FBI made Trump a target of any investigation. That is my opinion was the Australian and Papadopoulus meeting. And considering that nothing become of that meeting, Papadopoulus got 14 days for lying. Is that really the seed for a 3 year investigation and unlimited spying on Trump? NO!

      Add in the Carter Page as that brought in the Russians, when the DNC alleged that the Russians hacked their emails. And that would bring in the US intel agencies to be investigated as to why they didn't verify the allegation by actually getting on the DNC email servers and making their own forensic analysis. And how do 17 independent US intel agencies stand behind that allegation and the unverified Steele report. 17 agencies and not even one investigation into the report, that is incompetence or a conspiracy, In either case, it warrants a deep investigation.

      That is just the tip of what I think should be done Now!

      Finally, imo, these hoax investigations have done a better and more strategic influence on the 2018 election for the democrats. Now, with the Mueller report exploding as a gas cloud, it now is influencing the 2020 election.

      This influence was intentional by the democrats from even before Trump won the election, and it continued with the Kavanaugh hearing as one example, and then the Mueller report that could have and should have been ended in the summer of 2018 not only went to the 2018 election. It went five months past it, and now is influencing the 2020 election.

      This is a clear and present danger to the integrity of US elections. No foreign power could have accomplished the adverse influence achieved by the democrats.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ You make a a good point with "The democrats are unified in their opposition to everything Trump, but the republicans are not unified in supporting Trump." But I'm not sure that is anything new. Look at how Democrats borked the marvelous Robert Bork, whom I was honored to meet once, and how our side passed Ginsberg through with hardly any opposition. All the godless Left has to live for is politics so they are much more unified and ruthless and shameless.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ Reagan was truly awesome. I'd say he ties George Washington as our best president ever. And Trump is right up there with them.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      I'm with you Will Starr.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ Yes, there is surely work to do. Maybe there will always be work to do. I am very disappointed that Republicans appear to have torpedoed the appointments of Herman Cain and Stephen Moore. But we have gotten rid of some of the bad apples, namely Ryan and McCain.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      Will and T

      When president Trump won in 2016 many republicans were elected or reelected because of him, but that didn't some of those republicans from thinking of Trump as Caesar on the steps and brandishing their political knives to betray him.

      In the end, if Trump gets reelected we will have another four years of republican wimps who get their lunch money taken from them by the gang of democrats.

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      WillStarr 

      3 weeks ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I absolutely agree that President Trump is still hated by many establishment Republicans, but my point was, they will have to put that aside if they want to be reelected.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      3 weeks ago from now on

      Romney is a joke but also a vivid example of how people like him won’t unite for the sake of the good of the country vis-a-vis the policies they profess to support, but insist on making their perceived personality of the president more important than accomplishing what they profess to believe in (which is questionable just based on that behavior)!

      I’d be ok with their criticism of Trump’s personality if they first gave him the credit he deserves for all the good he is doing, supposedly exactly the things they want, but they won’t.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      Will and T

      You know I want Trump to be reelected, but as I said, there are too many that put their opposition to Trump ahead of unity.

      Look at the junior wannabe senator, Mitt Romney and his bold move to oppose Trump on his National Emergency.

      The democrats are unified in their opposition to everything Trump, but the republicans are not unified in supporting Trump.

      During the Trump presidency, the GOP went from the Grand Old Party to to Grand Old Passives. There is another word that better describes what they are, but I won't say it.

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      3 weeks ago from now on

      I agree Will but the problem with them is not that they (in general) want to choose to support Trump to further conservative policies but they only will support him if it helps them get re-elected or to give more power to the party. In general they are spineless opportunists not much better principled than Democrats and that is exactly why America was headed in the wrong direction before Trump and why without a Trump it will go back to not being great again, same as what happened once Reagan left and Bush took over.

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      WillStarr 

      3 weeks ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I disagree, MAGA. Yes, the Republican establishment actively opposed Trump in 2016, but unless disaster strikes before the 2020 election, they will have to support a successful President Trump's reelection. In fact, they will also use his success to boost their chances of taking control of both congressional houses again.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      I don't have your optimism in the republican party, they seem willing to lose the presidency by not supporting president Trump. They were mugged and ridiculed by the democrats, and several republicans added to the power of the democrats especially when they didn't control the house or the senate. Now that the democrats have the house, they are looking at the republicans in the senate.

      If the republicans can't give a 100% full backing to president Trump, it will be another Obama era, and the end of our democratic republic. And that, I would attribute to the loyal party voters, the sheep.

      The republican voters need to control the party, and demand that non Trump supporters not be elected or reelected imo.

      Trump was the only president that would have been able to blend the party line, and as long as we continue to have two parties that are so opposite that there is no possibility of compromise, then we won't get the change in the government to run the country for the people.

      Country and people need to come before the party and its financial and power backers.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      You are welcome, MAGA. Thanks for the dialogue. Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe President Trump will be reelected in 2020. But not if he leaves the Republican Party and so splits the Conservative Vote.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      I would be a tragedy if Romney would win, and I don't think the Biden has that much support. I think the young voters are with Sanders.

      But my real point is that if what Trump has done as president wouldn't increase his chances on winning then we are all screwed. Biden, Sanders or Romney terrible choices.

      Romney is like a politician version of 2015 Trump, and it is only because of Utah that he is even a Junior senator.

      2020 looks pretty bleak for America.

      The only wall is the one that is composed of Trump resistance.

      Thanks again.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ There were 135 million votes cast in 2016 for president. Hillary got 66 million. I think Biden might do just as well. Now, I'm not going to take the time to take it state by state in the Electoral College but Trump got 63,000,000 votes.

      Let's say Romney runs as the Republican. Biden might slip to 56 million votes. I would guess a man like Romney would get at least 30 million votes, which is only half how many he got when he ran in 2012, leaving 43 million for Trump. Biden wins.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ It would have been an awful tragedy had Hillary become president.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      Thanks for the critique, I appreciate it.

      Do you really think after 29 months in office, that a vote for reelecting president Trump would be about Hillary regardless of whether he ran as R or I? If the voters don't recognize what Trump has done as president, then yes, what you say might be true.

      The reason that I vote for Trump is that he is not run by the party, either party. Can you say that about Romney?

      As I have always said the decline of the US in modern history can be attributed to the loyal part voter, or as I call them political sheep.

      Sheep real or political are Pavlovian creatures.

      done!

    • tsadjatko profile image

      3 weeks ago from now on

      So true James about Hiliary! The only (realistic) choice was Trump or Hiliary.

      Hatred for Trump by Hiliary supporters is only about that but I have never heard any of them pivot to Hiliary and her policies being a better choice. They hate Trump but never make a case that Hiliary would have been better. I really don't think they think she would have been because she was shoved down their throats by the party. The worst candidate in history.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      You are quite welcome, MAGA. You are surely right that "This is different because this has never happened where a sitting president has changed parties."

      However, I must reiterate "Trump got lots of votes from people who were primarily trying to stop Hillary. If Romney ran as the republican party candidate he would take tens of millions of those votes."

      In other words, if Trump ran as an independent and Mitt Romney ran as a Republican against him, and against Joe Biden or whoever, surely Romney would get tens of millions of votes, enough to elect Biden. Many of those who voted for Trump only did so because the only choices were Hillary and him, and the one thing they could never do is vote for her.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ I completely agree with your assessment: "President Trump ... is quickly becoming one of the most successful presidents in history."

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      Yes, T, there is much truth in what you say. Well put.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      Perot not Perrot

      Don't know what Perrot was doing:)

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      This is different because this has never happened where a sitting president has changed parties. Yes, the party loyalty of the voters is still there but it is the single cause why the party system exists, but produces sheep for voters.

      Perot got 19% of the vote, and he had no experience in politics. And that was half of the votes for GH Bush the sitting president. True, he didn't get any of the EC votes.

      Today is not 1992, and the democrats don't have a single good candidate much less two, and who would the republicans put up to challenge the democrats much less Trump.

      Trump has a track record as president that is far better than GH Bush. And consider that no matter what party Trump runs for the democrats won't vote for him.

      It could actually be the catalyst that a 3rd party could finally be viable. Look at how well two independent party candidates did in 2016. And those candidates didn't have much going for them.

      The problem with a 3rd party is that there isn't a single party but a collection of small single issue parties. Trump could be the strong core needed for a single 3rd party.

      Again, the biggest flaw in our US politics are the loyal party voters because the party takes their loyalty to win elections, but then when they get elected the party takes its orders from their financial and power backers.

      This would be the one chance where that loyal sheep voter would be able to snap out of their political stupor.

      Once again consider how the democrats whole platform would have to change to handle Trump and a republican. One of the reasons that Trump got so far in the election is that the democrats had made their entire strategy on thinking the Jeb Bush would be Hillary's opponent. And when it wasn't they had nothing. Bush would have played by the stoggy political rules like John L Sullivan, but when the Queensbury rules drifted away the unorthodox style prevailed.

      An even more classic example is the Minute Men versus the mighty England military. Who won that battle?

      Can the democrats who are now in turmoil handle both the republican candidate and Trump? Watershed moment?

      Thanks for reading.

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      WillStarr 

      3 weeks ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      President Trump knows how to wheel and deal and he also knows how to win, qualities that have the Democrats in a full panic. He is quickly becoming one of the most successful presidents in history and that too has establishment politicians on both sides of the aisle in panic mode.

      The point of all these attacks is not to actually impeach Trump, but to drive his numbers down before the 2020 election.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      3 weeks ago from now on

      "I have noticed that the left here just regurgitate party sound bites,"

      Noticed? It's their trademark behavior!

      When all they start with is left wing talking points that are lies then that's all they have left, which is indefensible, so they have to then desparage the messenger.

      We get it in nearly every comment, a false talking point, then we debunk it, then they attack the debunker and try to discredit him or the source totally ignoring the facts of the debunking!

      It really gets old to everybody but them, cause to avoid admitting they are wrong tactics are all they have to use when they base their opinion on lies.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ I am interested to know what movie you are referencing?

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ Well, yes, the Republican Congress truly let down President Trump. The 82% figure I gave you was his approval NOW from Republican voters, not back then. However, Ryan was never on board the Trump Train and he is gone. McCain screwed the country over on Obamacare for his own personal vendetta. Thank God he is gone, too. But if Trump turns his back on the party I would suspect his proposals would get less congressional support—not more—from its Republican members.

      One problem with running as an independent is that tens of millions of people rightly consider casting their vote for a third party candidate as throwing their vote away, and therefore won’t do it. Perot probably gave us Bill Clinton, lest we forget. TR running as a third party candidate gave us the awful Woodrow Wilson—and TR was as popular as any man in America at the time.

      The only way I see it working would be if the Democrats also split and ran two good candidates, thereby also splitting the lefty vote. Four fairly evenly matched candidates would split the vote on BOTH sides. If we split it on one, my opinion is, we are sunk. Trump got lots of votes from people who were primarily trying to stop Hillary. If Romney ran as the republican party candidate he would take tens of millions of those votes.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      I have noticed that the left here just regurgitate party sound bites, and none that I have seen even know what is in the Mueller Report especially volume II the obstruction.

      When challenged they divert to Trump taxes or some other red herring.

      I am up to over 4,000 words going through Volume II and not a single person on the left will argue against my view. Probably because they won't read more than a title.

      I find it amusing that the left here actually think the Mueller was compromised by Trump to the point he went easy on him. At the same time they also say that he was right on for Trump obstruction.

      Many of them still don't understand Impeachment, much less criminal law.

      Finally, I don't think they know, much less care how the whole Russia Trump got started. It was at least a hoax, but they gassed it up and threw in a match to make it the beginning of a political conflagration that is the political wild fire that still burns today.

      It all started with a lie from the DNC and with the help of the swamp and the quicksand media it just kept growing.

      The sad part is that the supporters on the left, hear the fire alarm that is constantly run by the democrat politicians, and like Pavlovian dogs that respond to it as a real fire. And that fire is president Donald Trump.

      They even made a movie out of the governments project to control the minds of people. The movie ended I believe with the project canceled, but looking at the last several years, did it really end?

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      Where is that 82% of republican voters found in the republicans in congress. They didn't have his back, and people like Paul Ryan played him like Brutus.

      What really do the republican voters have but Trump? How have the republicans in congress supported those voters? They haven't and I don't think much has changed for the better since 2018.

      One last plea, and then I am over it.

      Even if Trump gets reelected it will be another 4 years of the last 3 years.

      We know that there are too many RINOs that have intentionally caused the original house and senate republican control to benefit the democrats.

      The only wall that we are going to get is a bigger wall of resistance from the democrats.

      I think that if Trump just broaches the subject of running independent and I mean independent it will cause raised heads from both parties. And if I were Trump, it would be a way to get a vote of confidence from the people and maybe the republican party.

      Without Trump as a republican, the republicans in congress would be democrat prey. This would make 911 look not as devastating because 911 didn't shake the government only the people. A move like this by Trump would be a 10.0 congressional earthquake in my opinion.

      If Trump couldn't do any better than Perrot, I wouldn't even suggest it. Perrot was an unpolished version of Romney but not a politician. Trump is both a president, and not a polished politician.

      The point here is that if the voters don't support him as an independent, then they wouldn't have supported him as a reelected republican president.

      Yes, it would be a high risk for Trump, but he would have total control of the campaign. He could endorse candidates from either party? That is if there was anyone on the left that would be qualified.

      The democrats would have to have a battle plan to attack not only Trump, but whomever the republicans come up with for a presidential candidate.

      The democrat party is already in disarray with whom they think can beat Trump. The republican party without Trump has no one that can even beat the dismal democrats, much less Trump.

      The people need Trump more than he needs them. If they don't vote for Trump then who could they vote for that would represent them?

      Done! Thanks

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ Thank you for the link to that fascinating video, which I enjoyed very much. I hope and pray it is true what they prognosticate. I don't know, the Clintons are never held to account for their crimes.

      TDS is real alright, but I am not sure it is curable except through conversion and perhaps exorcism. I think I may write a Hub about TDS.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      Yes, WillStarr, you are once again spot on.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ Yes, I see what you mean. It would be quite different being the incumbent. But I think President Trump has an 82% approval rating among Republican voters. I am not sure abandoning their party would be a wise decision for him.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      3 weeks ago from now on

      Well, a friend of mine just sent me this.

      https://youtu.be/euLEy_THSmI

      If true and I can't believe it isn't, I wonder if this will miraculously cure the Democrat "TDSombies" of their affliction.

      How about a "like" for https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TD...

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      WillStarr 

      3 weeks ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I agree that the Republican establishment was appalled that we rank and file Republicans nominated Donald Trump as our candidate. Many of the angry Beltway Republicans were clearly supporting Hillary Clinton.

      Donald J. Trump was the people's choice all the way, and as a group, we were correct to choose him over the establishment candidates who would have lost to Clinton.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      We are not talking about just a third party candidate, but one that is already the president. This has never happened. Do you really think that the GOP is behind Trump? Not if you look at the first 2 years.

      I explained my theory.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ I appreciate your idea but I do not think a third party candidate has any chance of winning a presidential election in the United States. UNLESS their was also a fourth party candidate running on the other side.

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      I just had a great thought.

      Think about how many of the GOP are RINOS and how the DNC rails on everything Trump. The GOP doesn't support him, what if Trump went for reelection not as a republican but as an independent.

      Here is the beauty of this action because I doubt whether he would do any worse.

      The republicans would have to ramp up someone, and the democrats would have to focus on the republican candidate. They both can't rail on Trump because they need something different for their respective parties. Now of course, both parties could rail on Trump but they would also have to rail on each other.

      This would be like Perrot. This would revolutionize America politics, and it doesn't matter if Trump loses because both sides would have shown their voters they don't have a political platform.

      I would roll the dice on this one, and favor Trump.

      What do you think?

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      NOYFOB 

      3 weeks ago

      James

      Thanks, it goes with the avatar.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      MAGA ~ I like your new handle. :-)

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      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      James

      Not that anyone would see because it is not a featured article, but I have been going through Volume II the obstruction and it is like looking at an extension of the left's comments on hp.

      Mueller doesn't factor into Volume II the light of exoneration into his investigation into obstruction.

      I can see why he didn't put volume II into indictments.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ You made two great comments:

      "This is proof that insane people can string together words that have no meaning to the rest of us."

      "It is hard to believe that the democrats have mutated so far from being Americans since 2008!"

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ I agree with you: "They don't believe in the US being a democratic republic. If they did they would wait until the election and try to vote him out."

      And as you quote, the imbeciles on the Left claim "Democrats have a MASSIVE Trove of Criminal Evidence now in hand, with believe it or not, even MORE to come." LOL As you say, "What criminal evidence?"

      There isn't any.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ As you said so well: "Now the Democrats want access to President Trump's tax returns, not because they have probable cause, but because they want to find something, ANYTHING, to keep controversy alive in hopes of negatively affecting Trump's approvals before the 2020 election."

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      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ You got that right: “What did they find in the Mueller report? Volume I exonerates Trump. Volume II is Mueller Rhetoric wrapped around conjecture.”

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      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      More from the same Anti American Anti Trumper

      "Jail this cultish 72 year old bum immediately until all legal matters are ADJUDICATED and Tribunals are completed before the eyes and ears of the American People and before it‘s TOO LATE: "

      B:

      Proof that they use the constitution only when they think it helps them.

      This statement violates so many of the rights and protection of the people, and that include the president.

      The left have broken that attorney client privilege thanks to Mueller, and this leftist doesn't believe in the presumption of innocence, until proven guilty in a court of law. And that he is emulating the drunken crowded running with a rope and he wants to hang Trump.

      No due process, no using the election process and without any proof. They only have the rage and high strung emotions to make baseless Anti American accusations.

      And look at how insane and enraged they got whenever someone asked about the citizenship of Obama.

      ----------------------------------------

      "Flimsy DOJ Policy is just that, a policy, but the constitution and oath of office are the LAW of this land regardless of what Communist Russian Loving Republicans believe and the constitution and oath of office override any policy suggestion and NO Man or in this dreadfully pathetic case “Circus CLOWN” who actually believes windmills cause cancer, is above said LAW:""

      B:

      This is proof that insane people can string together words that have no meaning to the rest of us. They can't even agree with their biased special counsel that there was no Russian connection.

      And they believe that democrats in congress are upholding their oath to office by resisting for over 2 years.

      It is hard to believe that the democrats have mutated so far from being Americans since 2008!

      ------------------------------------------------

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      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      This is what the people on the left believe is reality, but this is a fantasy world they have created to justify why Hillary Clinton their $1.2 Billion funded 2 time presidential candidate lost the presidency.

      -----------------------------------------

      "Morality DEAD, Ethics Buried, Constitution in Tiny SHREDS and Tatters, "

      B:

      The left blames Trump in this accusation. But, it really describes what the left has done to the US since Obama was elected president.

      -------------------------------------------

      "Our Global Reputation a Bad JOKE"

      B:

      Again, that is definitely president Obama. Who went around the world kissing hands and other extremities apologizing for America.

      -------------------------------------------

      " and the Economy DOOMED which is exactly what Vladimir Putin wanted, all in the name of a narcissistic self absorbed 2 bit 72 year old con-man:"

      B:

      Our economy doomed, and how realistic is that accusation. Of course, it would have come true if president Trump didn't get us of the economic time bomb that is the Paris Accord.

      And they still cling to Putin even though the Mueller report doesn't have any connection between Putin and Trump.

      There are so many ties between Obama, and the Clintons and the Clinton foundation and they ignore that fact. They keep on trying to justify giving Uranium to a Putin controlled company. And that was OK because it was Obama and Hillary, but now with Trump Russia is back to being the USSR again, and they are the enemy.

      And the left lives in a country that they don't recognize their president. They act like little school kids in the constant mockery of Trump.

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      " It’s imperative that the he be REMOVED from our oval office ASAP "

      B:

      They don't believe in the US being a democratic republic. If they did they would wait until the election and try to vote him out.

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      "and Democrats with the MASSIVE Trove of Criminal Evidence now in hand, with believe it or not, even MORE to come,"

      B:

      What criminal evidence? And what are they expecting to get later?

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      will grow even STRONGER than they already are if they commence the process of impeachment NOW before it‘s too late:

      B:

      These leftist don't have any concept of the constitution, nor of the law. The impeachment is only step one, and they can get that because the house is filled with democrats. But they could do that for any reason and get an impeachment vote, even without any evidence.

      But they only have to look at how Bill Clinton got impeached but stayed in office.

      ------------------------------------------

      " If he’s not removed or severely punished for his 2 years of nearly nonstop Documented LIES and Insane Public Behavior, a dangerously horrifying precedent will be set and it’s almost a guarantee that the intolerable Madness, Destructive Chaos, CONSTANT Crisis and DARK Ways of this unholy oval office which we are forced involuntarily to endure, "

      B:

      This was a nonstop looney emotional no foundation, no reference, no facts brainless dump. This is all they have done since 2016. They don't stand for America they are the sheep of the democrat party.

      ---------------------------------------------

      will get even WORSE than we’ve already witnessed GOD Forbid:

      B:

      And now after all their God trashing, they invoke the help of God?

      ---------------------------------------------

      And that would be the END of the USA Period: Democrats, Many Republicans and Independents are UNITED:

      B:

      Says who? So many words put together into a meaningless, hateful, emotion filled delusional brain fart.

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    • WillStarr profile image

      WillStarr 

      4 weeks ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      Now the Democrats want access to President Trump's tax returns, not because they have probable cause, but because they want to find something, ANYTHING, to keep controversy alive in hopes of negatively affecting Trump's approvals before the 2020 election.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      James

      I saw this on the forum

      "According to the Washington Examiner, based upon the findings of the Mueller report,"

      B:

      What did they find in the Mueller report?

      Volume I exonerates Trump.

      Volume II is Mueller Rhetoric wrapped around conjecture.

      ----------------------------------

      " some Democrats such as Elijah Cummings, House Oversight and Reform Committee Chairperson, are certain that President Trump will be impeached. Yes, Democrats are pressuring Nancy Pelosi to impeach Trump.."

      B:

      The reason that they want to try and impeach him is to continue on what Mueller has given them for the last year. And that was a cloud over president Trump, a manufactured cloud and its purpose was and continues to influence the election.

      It already influenced the 2018 midterm election as we can see how they won back the house. And what was their political platform to make that win. Mueller's investigation coupled with impeach president Trump.

      As I said before, there was nothing in the Mueller report that should have extended itself into the midterm election. The IG when investigating the FBI's investigation of Hillary in 2016 said that it was OK for the FBI to have done a hasty investigation of her because the prime goal was not to run into the election.

      Contrast that with Mueller's investigation where the election meant nothing to the DOJ.

      The democrats not the Russians are influencing the elections. They are doing it with their fabricated investigations and their appointment of a special counsel. This is merely a continuation of the Kavanaugh democrat demanded investigations.

      Its purpose is to have democrats win elections they don't deserve through the use of continuing the cloud around president Trump. They won the house with the political platform of we will resist president Trump, and their wild accusations using anything Trump to be weaponized for political advantage.

      When they resisted the president, they failed their oath of office. They are putting their party over their duty to the country.

      They are getting away with it because the republican party is weak and they can't or won't challenge the democrat bullies who are taking their lunch money.

      It is time, while we have some intelligent people left in the country for them to demand that the US be return to its fully upright function as a democratic republic. That republic is not working because the democrat party is making the votes and not the people. Of course, those people are just their sheep as are most loyal party voters.

      Finally, the Muller Investigation needs to be itself investigated as well as the democrats in congress that generated the special counsel. This investigation should be made on the results that there was never and Russian Trump anything. And the DOJ and other intel agencies that say they were alerted to it in 2016 were mistaken. In which case, they should have assisted both candidates to keep any Russian influence in check. Instead of treating the Trump campaign and Trump as foreign enemies. This created a political advantage for Hillary after the election.

      She was the one that had 3 million more of the popular vote, and that should have put the investigation spotlight on her.

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    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ As you perfectly put it: "There was no probable cause, so the Obama Administration, the DNC, and the Clinton campaign created one by hiring Fusion GPS to create a fake dossier and then using it to convince a FISA judge to allow them to spy on Trump."

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Thank you Brad Masters for your commentaries. I find nothing you wrote with which I can disagree. Well done!

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      James

      The Mueller report

      M6: The Campaign's response to reports about Russian support for Trump. During the 2016 presidential campaign, questions arose about the Russian government's apparent support for candidate Trump.

      B6: There are some key factors to parse in this point. First we have to assume that it is the Trump campaign, but we will have to wait to see what and who responds.

      We will also have to find out the source of the questions, over what period of time the questions arose. In addition, what are the exact statements and how are they construed to be deemed Russian, and in what manner was their so called support detailed.

      The use of the word “apparent” leans heavily against any thing that would by found as evidence. We will have to find the exact context to make any determination about point M6.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      Contrast the Mueller investigation with the Hillary Investigation and how the Inspector General is closer to Comey's style.

      "2. We found that one of the reasons for not using the grand jury for testimony involved concerns about exposing grand jurors to classified information;

      B2:

      The whole investigation was about Hillary Clinton using her private unsecured email server to transact official Secretary of State business and as she didn't have any official account with her office, how would she get classified information.

      Think about it, her job as secretary of state deals with US secrets and negotiations with other countries. That has to involve getting classified information to her, and her response. It is a fact, that she didn't have an official email account with the SOS office.

      Then why would the Inspector General in investigating the handling of Hillary Clinton's investigation by James Comey the head of the FBI not expect to find classified information.

      Then the Inspector General bought in that there was no need for a Grand Jury in the Clinton investigation that focused on whether or not she used a private email server to send and receive classified information.

      How did the investigation expect to find out whether that was true or not, if they wouldn't call for a grand jury? And why would the grand jury not be able to hear any and all evidence in determining whether there was enough evidence for her to be indicted.

      By not calling a grand jury for the reason given, it would be very difficult to find any evidence of classified information being transferred because what would they do with it.

      Worse than Comey using that reason not to call a grand jury for the Hillary Clinton investigation was the rubber stamping of that reason by the Inspector General."

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    • WillStarr profile image

      WillStarr 

      4 weeks ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      Legal investigations must be based on probable cause in order to keep law enforcement from becoming a political weapon. Otherwise, a sitting politician could use his law enforcement authority as a weapon against his political opponents.

      That, of course, is exactly what happened in the Russian collusion hoax. There was no probable cause, so the Obama Administration, the DNC, and the Clinton campaign created one by hiring Fusion GPS to create a fake dossier and then using it to convince a FISA judge to allow them to spy on Trump.

      They must not get away with this or we will have become the world's most powerful banana republic.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 weeks ago

      James

      BTW, my initial glances at the Mueller give me the same feeling when I read the comments of the Anti Trumper here. There was no much that we didn't know because Mueller heavily uses stories from the press, and he makes no mention about how he and Comey conspired to get congress (the democrats) to appoint a special counsel. He makes no references to his conflicts of interest. He uses what he calls a "contemporaneous" memorandum by Comey of his oval office meeting with the president. Yet, that is the same memo contents he leaked to the press. Yet, this leaking was not held as important or illegal to look further into the motives of Comey.

      I couldn't find in Mueller's report that Comey formally filed it into the official FBI records. And whether Comey thought president Trump was obstructing his investigation. In which case as I understand it, that memo should have along with recommendations to pursue or not pursue investigating the president for obstruction to the DOJ. The Muller report is silent.

      This contemporaneous memo was made on a private conversation, so it really can't be verified and I can't see it bearing much weight as evidence in an obstruction case. But Mueller should have investigated Comey, but wait Comey is his bud. Comey was fired and Mueller was rejected for FBI director by president Trump.

      If the special counsel was a person that didn't have these conflicts of interest, then it would follow that Comey and his leaks of that memo should have been investigated for criminal acts. The congress didn't do it, and the DOJ didn't do it. When you look at all the obstruction information in the Mueller report they treated Trump way different than Comey. And way different than Comey treated Hillary when he twice obstructed justice.

      Finally, if you look at the way that Comey investigated Hillary and compare it with Mueller investigating Donald Trump, and president Trump you will see two diametrically opposed investigations. The blind lady of justice was two faced. One should only have to look at the dates in Mueller's investigation to see if he shouldn't have ended the investigation before the election, like Comey did for Hillary and how the Inspector General looked the other way when he investigated it.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      And you make a solid point with your last comment, "why did it take so long for him to end the investigation?" I think Mueller knew early on there was no 'collusion' but strung it out long enough for the Democrats to use it in the 2018 midterms.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      I agree with your 2nd and 3rd commentaries, Brad Masters, especially this: "We hate Trump is not a valid political platform, and yet the democrat loyal party voters don't care, or they just aren't smart enough to know they are being played."

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      4 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Thank you for your commentaries. I totally agree with your assertion, "there shouldn't have been any investigation without a crime to investigate." I understand that, as you say, "As for the obstruction inference that president Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation." Firing one man does not stop an FBI investigation. You are absolutely right that "Comey as FBI director works at the pleasure of the president. Trump didn't have to give a reason, but the democrats and the media inserted one."

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      5 weeks ago

      James

      After skimming through the Mueller report, the question that I have is why did it take so long for him to end the investigation?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      5 weeks ago

      James

      On the Trump investigation by the FBI and the year long FISA warrant to spy on an American citizen for a year during the election.

      This has been concerned on multiple levels that haven't been followed up by any investigations. It is my recollection that the reason the Russian influence in the election came up was that the FBI was confident that the Russians were going to try and influence the election.

      But instead of making Trump aware of their information on the Russians the FBI decided to investigate the Trump campaign. And later they would focus on trying to find Trump not the Russians as influencing the election.

      This should have been flagged as more of investigating one political party when they should have been investigating the entire election. To put the privacy of the Trump campaign in the hands of the FBI and DOJ that were found after the fact to be biased against Trump more of the influencing of the election than the Russians.

      Why didn't the FBI equally investigate Hillary Clinton and her campaign? The Trump investigation went past the election and into the inauguration. How is that a fair investigation of Russian influence with or without Trump.

      And in hindsight, we find that even with this intrusion of privacy into the Trump campaign and 5 investigations including Mueller they come up with nothing.

      This is the nothing that should be investigated now before the 2020 presidential election. The democrats and Mueller have shown that they by their actions have been heavily into influencing the 2018 midterm election. Now they are well on their way with influencing the 2020 investigation without the Russian pretense.

      Congress is now using the very limp Mueller report to do another Kavanaugh election influence scheme.

      This as was the 2018 democrat political platform is the same for 2020. We hate Trump is not a valid political platform, and yet the democrat loyal party voters don't care, or they just aren't smart enough to know they are being played.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      5 weeks ago

      Scott Dean Randy Leslie

      AKA the Anti Trumper Anti Americans

      ---------------------------------------------

      No Indictments is a Total Exoneration of president Trump

      --------------------------------------------

      You are not going to quibble about Barr's summary of Mueller's report as changing anything on the 4 page summary.

      Read this, Mueller didn't have the necessary evidence to show Anything criminal against Trump.

      Now, if you want to say something to me, please use facts and stop laughing like a r d

      --------------------

      Randy

      Obstruction of Justice.

      The report's second part addresses a number of actions by the President – most of which have been the subject of public reporting – that the Special Counsel investigated as potentially raising obstruction-of-justice concerns. After making a “thorough factual investigation” into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other – as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

      ---------------------------------------------

      B:

      To obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloguing the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies NO actions that, in our judgement, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice offense.

      -----------------------------

      B:

      The statement by Mueller that he decided to just give both sides and leave it to the AG to decide if there was a crime. Is Mueller's failure to find evidence that can be found beyond a reasonable doubt.

      If he couldn't find that evidence with 19 attorneys, 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff.

      2800 subpoenas

      nearly 500 search warrants

      230 orders for communication records,

      almost 50 order authorizing use of pen registers

      13 requests to foreign govt for evidence

      nearly 500 witnesses were interviewed

      That is an exoneration and compare that with Comey exonerating Hillary Clinton. If you believe that Hillary was exonerated, then why don't you believe Trump?

      ------------------------------------

      B:

      Remember that Barr was summarizing what Mueller wrote, but if he didn't indict and convict he failed to make a case. His opinion is not the same as a court of law.

      Mueller was your guy, and he failed because there were no crimes by Trump.

      And what he did by keeping his investigation going till and through the mid term election was an influence on the election in favor of the left. And by you and the left continuing on with this baseless accusation are just trying to keep that influence going to the 2020 presidential election. It was just like the Judge Kavanaugh multiple investigations that didn't show any crime was committed, yet it delay the hearing, and impugned the president before the 2018 mid term elections. We didn't need the Russians when we have the democrats to influence our elections.

      Mueller also broke the confidentiality of the lawyer client which was the strongest of the protected confidences. So, now when anyone confides in their lawyer, they can't be sure if the government won't disregard it.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      5 weeks ago

      James

      That is probably true and in also there shouldn't have been any investigation without a crime to investigate.

      As for the obstruction inference that president Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation. The only investigation that was mentioned was Flynn.

      I know that I am repeating myself but it bears repeatition.

      The democrats wanted Comey fired in October 2016 when he reopened the Hillary investigation. But when Rosenstein actually fired Comey they imputed that to president Trump.

      I believe that Comey came under fire by the Inspector General. Any and all of these facts mean there was no reason to conflate Comey as FBI director works at the pleasure of the president. Trump didn't have to give a reason, but the democrats and the media inserted one.

      The real problem with obstruction is that it is an opening move to investigate and then use it as a political leverage. Even if nothing is found, the cloud will work in favor of the democrats.

      And in the investigation, it also gives rise to interviewing president Trump in the hope that he will say something they can construe as a lie. Even if that isn't possible they can still use it for political advantage.

      Finally, I would submit that a good case can be made that Comey obstructed justice when he investigated Hillary Clinton. I started reading the Inspector Generals report that included that investigation.

      While the Inspector General seemed OK with the investigation, I didn't find he made valid conclusions.

      First he thought it was OK that Comey never brought in the Grand Jury because it might have them looking at classified information. Duh.

      Second, he thought that the interview without he being sworn in, and no record of the interview being taken, and her two attorneys there with her even though they were also witness was OK with him.

      Third, the investigation was hurried because of the election? Yet, Mueller didn't end before the 2018 midterm election and not until 5 months later.

      How could Comey and Mueller take different views of the election versus justice.

      There is so much more but the IG didn't really do much and even Peter Stryzok was allowed to say, it didn't affect my FBI investigation judgement even though he changed the report for Comey to say that Hillary didn't commit the crime.

      You know when all of Richard Nixon's lawyers that got caught in the breakin said oh was what I did unethical. From that day every BAR exam includes a section on Ethics.

      After Comey, I think that the FBI attorneys not only need Ethics testing but also they need to take the BAR exam every year.

      Thanks for the floor:)

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      5 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ Mueller was mostly interested in catching the president or his colleagues in a perjury trap, which is easy to do.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      5 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ Thank you for all your comments. I just saw Rudy on television say that you cannot obstruct justice if there was no underlying crime to begin with. An innocent man cannot obstruct 'justice' because there is nothing to obstruct unless he has committed some crime in the first place.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      6 weeks ago

      T

      The fact that Mueller didn't find anything on president Trump is exactly the reason that he wanted to interview the president.

      Don't get tricked by the word "interview", it is a modern synonym for the old time "interrogation". If president Trump would have been forced to "interview" or go before a grand jury then Trump would have had to use the fifth amendment.

      Nothing good comes from talking to the investigators or the grand jury. The prosecutor can lie plenty but when the person even innocently mistakes facts, they deem that a lie. And that is how innocent people go to jail.

      The fifth amendment was created to protect the innocent and not the guilty. The mistake is made by the innocent people who believe their innocence will set them free.

      And when they are wrong, they found guilty because of investigator's cunning interrogation (interview) tricks.

      As for Hillary, she really did have an interview, and not an interrogation. There was no grand jury, no recording of the interview, and nothing to go back and review. Her two lawyers were their with her, and they were also witnesses according to the IG report.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      6 weeks ago from now on

      So Brad, if Mueller found nothing of evidence why would he want to interview the president. When Hiliary was investigated by Comey he found plenty of evidence but if I am correct never asked to interview Hiliary.

      Can you believe the double standard?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      6 weeks ago

      Does anyone think that president Trump should have interviewed with Robert Mueller

      1. Jun 13, 2017 · President Donald Trump interviewed Robert Mueller as a potential replacement for fired FBI Director James Comey the day before he was named special counsel.

      2. Mueller had spent 22 months investigating whether Trump or his aides conspired with Russia during the 2016 election, interviewing 500 witnesses. The Republican president’s lawyers made sure he was not among them.

      The strategy paid off, insulating Trump from the legal jeopardy presented by a sit-down interview with the special counsel’s team - an interview that Trump had said publicly he wanted to do. There was even a tentative date for the interview - Jan. 27, 2018 - though one of Trump’s lawyers told Reuters he never intended to make the president available to Mueller. And Mueller never issued a subpoena demanding testimony.

      On Sunday, Trump’s lead attorneys - Jay Sekulow, Rudy Giuliani and husband-and-wife team Jane and Martin Raskin - were huddled at a conference table with their computers open, awaiting Barr’s summary. When it finally popped up online, they were jubilant.

      Mueller had found no evidence of conspiracy with Russia, Barr said. The attorney general also concluded there was insufficient evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice by trying to impede the inquiry - an issue the special counsel had left unresolved.

      Why should president Trump have ignored the advice of his lawyers, republican or otherwise to interview with Robert Mueller?

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      6 weeks ago

      James

      Sorry, it is the Inspector General Report on his investigation of Hillary and the cesspool.

      The previous comment, I gave was verbatim from the executive summary of the report. As I read more of that report, I realize this was a waste of time, and probably why no one used that report to reopen the Clinton investigation.

      Comey didn't use the Grand Jury for Hillary because

      "We found that one of the reasons for not using the grand jury for testimony

      involved concerns

      ---------

      about exposing grand jurors to classified information;

      "

      B:

      That is like saying lets look for your lost car keys under the street lamp because we are afraid of the dark.

      The Inspector General like Mueller wasted time and money weaving a shroud on the core of what was to be investigated.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 weeks ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ I did see that news about Barr investigating the spying operation and that is good news indeed.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ I totally agree with you: "What's really bothersome is that in America the elected representatives hide under rocks while unelected lawyers and bureaucrats run the show."

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 weeks ago from Chicago

      Will Starr ~ Yes, I agree with your statement: "The crime was using false information to influence the FISA judge to authorize spying on the Trump campaign. ... I now believe this leads all the way to the top and by that, I mean Barack Obama."

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ You are pretty funny: "It is not a swamp. It is a cesspool! Swamps have an ECO system. Cesspools just have a really foul smell!"

      On your earlier comment, I am not sure to what you are referring when you mention this 'IG Report." They issue lots of reports. What is the name of the specific report to which you refer?

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 weeks ago from Chicago

      T ~ I would say you are right that "This was just a continuation of a silent coup orchestrated by person's in Obama's DOJ and you can bet there was and is more evidence to investigate Obama for indictable behavior than Trump for anything. It's been obvious Mueller found evidence of collusion and a silent coup from the fake dossier to FBI bad actors that Mueller should have pursued Hillary and Obama instead of going after Flynn and Manafort for things that had nothing to do with collusion. The only explanation is Mueller wanted to protect the Democrats while destroying anyone he could on Trumps team for any reason he could find even though it had nothing to do with collusion."

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 weeks ago from Chicago

      Brad Masters ~ I think the Demonrats hope to find in all the surveillance of people innocent of any crime comments made that they can publicize as 'racist' 'sexist' 'homophobic' 'Islamophobic' 'insensitive' et al. Politically incorrect comments made in private that they can blow all out of proportion to inflame their mob.

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