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The Tea Party Syndrome: Do You Have It?

Updated on November 5, 2016
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Are you a victim of the Tea Party Syndrome?

The Tea Party Syndrome

I come in contact with Tea Party members and others with extreme Libertarian and/or social conservative beliefs in person and in several on-line discussion forums. As Hendrik Hertzberg put it in The New Yorker May 2, 2011, "The dismaying truth is part of a larger pattern of rejection of reality that has taken hold of intimidating segments of one of the two political parties that alternate in power in our governing institutions. It is akin to the view that global warming is a hoax, or that the budget can be balanced through spending cuts alone, or that contraception causes abortion, or that evolution is just another theory, on a par with the theory that the earth is six thousand years old."

Here is a list which may be used to diagnose how far from reality an individual is. Holding six or more of the beliefs qualifies you for membership in the Tea Party. Ten or more is an indication that you have lost nearly all touch with reality and are a candidate for in-patient psychiatric care.

1. Global warming is a hoax.

2. Not sure Obama was born in the U.S.

3. Obama is a secret Muslim.

4. Handgun control violates the Second Amendment.

5. Licensed gun owners should be able to "carry" at any public event, in public buildings, schools, etc.

6. "Drill baby drill" is the answer to energy issues

7. Evolution is an unproved theory.

8. Creationism or "intelligent" design should be taught in public schools.

9. Affirmative action amounts to discrimination against whites.

10. Sharia law is spreading across the US.

11. Government is the enemy.

12. Free markets will solve nearly all problems.

13. The graduated income tax amounts to unfair and unconstitutional confiscation.

14. The minimum wage should not be increased. It should be repealed because it is an unnecessary infringement on the right of companies and because it would create unemployment.

15. The Education Department, the EPA and other Executive Branch agencies should be eliminated.

16. Foreign aid is a waste of taxpayer's money and should be discontinued.

17. The right of workers to organize unions and bargain collectively with employers should be curtailed.

18. Capital punishment is necessary to deter crimes and provide justice to victims.

19. Law and order should be a higher priority; prison sentences should be longer and parole standards tightened.

20. Sex education in public schools should be confined to abstinence only.

21. Abortion is murder and should be illegal.

22. The "gay agenda" is a menace to American traditions and institutions.

23. All illegal immigrants should be deported.

24. Corporations should have all the same rights as people--except to be held criminally accountable.

25. Do you believe that Tea Party candidates are prophets sent by God to save the world?

26. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme which should be "privatized."

27. Do you breathe through your mouth all or most of the time?

28. Our laws should be based on selective, literal interpretations of the Bible.

29. Donald Trump will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Archie Bunker, the First Tea Partier

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      9-29-13NYTimes--Texas, Cradle of Tea Party Ignorance

      Creationists on Texas Panel for Biology Textbooks - NYTimes.com

      The panel reviewing publishers' submissions has stirred controversy because some of its members do not accept evolution and climate change as scientific truth.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      9-25-13NYtimes "How Did Conservatives Get this Radical?" by Thomas B. Edsall

      How Did Conservatives Get this Radical?

      Whether out of conviction or fear, House Republicans bent to the will of the Tea Party and voted 228 to 1 on Sept. 20 to make continued financing of the federal government contingent on defunding the Affordable Care Act.

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      I quit believing in 'crazy' a long time ago. Okay, I'll meet in the middle: It is dumbfounding and astonishing in a lame, ludicrous sort of way.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Crazy, not amazing.

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      @S Leretseh: You said "The DEMS have turned America into a bunch of fat, lazy and mean-spirited whiners."

      Really? Here I was, thinking the human race was responsible for their own actions. I'm alien to politics, but if the Democratic party is to blame for all the lazy slobs in America, then I think I'd join the Republican party if I had to choose. I did not know there was a certain political party out there that forced people to eat their way towards disability. This is simply amazing!

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      S Leretseh 4 years ago

      "No group can be as uncivil as the Tea Party"

      Oh, really?

      http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/359087/commun...

      The Tea Party is nothing more than a last gasp, a last ditch effort, to save America ... from a complete takeover of our businesses and our personal lives by the Democratic Party. They can't win. Neither can the Republicans. The Democratic Party has a formula that simply can't be beat: Socialism/Liberalism & Civil Rights Laws. The federal Civil Rights Acts break America down into groups and pit them against White Christian males (i.e. what were HIS businesses, his political environments, his residential communities). Naturally, White Christian males become the minority group under the Democratic Party's 'Civil Rights' formula. Civil Rights laws = With no QUID PRO QUO ... the Democratic Party's peoples get to claim everything another people created. Yeah, pretty darn good incentive to vote democrat. Then we have the DEMs cradle-to-grave socialism...provided for by White Christian's tax base. All conceivable goodies the DEMS could think of over the last 50 years they've created a law and forced the country to give it -- to THEIR peoples (groups).

      The DEMS have turned America into a bunch of fat, lazy and mean-spirited whiners. I wonder what Ralph Deeds, being a proud and vocal democrat, tips the scale at?

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      And what about Tea Party Libertarians . . .

      https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q...

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      And of course there's Ted Cruz the most obnoxious freshman senator ever.

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      No group can be as uncivil as the Tea Party

      Over the past few years, America has been introduced to a new level of rudeness thanks in no small part to the Tea Party.

      From Grady Warren’s incredibly racist and insulting video rants to Joe Wilson screaming out “You lie!” during a State of the Union address in 2010 to a few people booing an Army officer serving in Iraq, we are inundated on a daily basis with crass and insulting behavior from Tea Party members, pundits and politicians.

      Most recently, this rudeness was evident on Sean Hannity’s Fox program. Friday, June 21st, right wing radio host Bill Cunningham attacked Tamara Holder, a Democrat, during a conversation about Eric Holder (no relation). Cunningham pointed his finger in Holder’s face, called her a “stooge” and told her to “know her role” and “shut her mouth.” Ms. Holder released a very calm and professional statement regarding the exchange, while Mr. Cunningham has remained mum about the entire event.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnVSGxCLAYo#t=22

      http://quietmike.org/2013/07/03/the-inherent-ruden...

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      That's a good one.

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      "The door of a bigoted mind opens outward so that the only result of the pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly." - Ogden Nash

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      Thomas Swan 4 years ago from New Zealand

      It is such a shame that this fledgling libertarian movement became infiltrated by religious nutters and the extreme right. As libertarianism runs almost completely contrary to the status quo, I wonder if this was a deliberate ploy to discredit the movement. For example, I did wonder why Palin suddenly became involved. Anyway, would Ron Paul want anything to do with this party of fanatics?

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Many thanks for your comments. You are the first one who answered all the questions. I think you qualify for the Tea Party but not for in-patient mental care! Best to you!

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      Okay, instead of making it a divisible number of 5, I will include the last one to make it a complete numeric list of YOUR 26 items.

      21. The "gay agenda" is a menace to American traditions and institutions.

      Some people are simply born gay. Talk to the X & Y chromosomes, not me. I'm straight, enjoy women, but I can never discriminate against gays in all fairness. In fact, the only ones I can't understand are the bi-sexuals! What is up with that anyway? How can you like both? I don't know, maybe I'm jealous because you have more choices... LOL!

      22. All illegal immigrants should be deported.

      Damn right! Until there is some universal law that allows us to cross anybody's border, it should stay that way. Unfortunately, it is fine for us to get invaded, but just don't cross their borders with a hunting rifle in the trunk!

      23. Corporations should have all the same rights as people--except to be held criminally accountable.

      Huh? This links to the same corrupt justice system, and I'm not answering that!

      24. Do you believe that Tea Party candidates are prophets sent by God to save the world?

      I'm apart of God, as we are all apart of the very same divine source. Lets just say, us being atomically connected to the universe is an understatement! LOL!

      25. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme which should be "privatized."

      Social Security is getting bled to death by the scum, rabbit-breeding welfare freaks and low-life imbeciles and people that often fake disability, etc., etc. This subject deserves a hub in its own right...

      26. Do you breathe through your mouth all or most of the time?

      I breathe through both fairly equally, but if I get excited I take breaths more through my mouth than my nostrils.

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      Obviously I have found time tonight; LOL! Don't look at me, I can't help that this Hub was totally awesome! Ha!

      Numbers 16 through 20:

      16. The right of workers to organize unions and bargain collectively with employers should be curtailed.

      I've never been under a union, but I can see the obvious benefit of people working together for fairness; oops!

      17. Capital punishment is necessary to deter crimes and provide justice to victims.

      I don't know, but the Islamic people often don't have this trouble as most folks are too afraid to commit obvious crimes like stealing money as they know their hands will be chopped off before dying, etc.

      18. Law and order should be a higher priority; prison sentences should be longer and parole standards tightened.

      The justice system sucks; I can't answer that!

      19. Sex education in public schools should be confined to abstinence only.

      I like and enjoy sex; I hate it when I don't get very much sex or have droughts, if you will... Not all aliens procreate via the test tube, by the way...

      20. Abortion is murder and should be illegal.

      Abortion should be allowed, especially if a woman was raped and whatnot. I don't think it should be used as a method of birth control. I've been to the clinics and have seen it first hand, trust me...

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      5 more we go...

      11. Government is the enemy.

      Absolutely agree that people are blind to the obvious manipulation of the ancient aspects of power and control.

      12. Free markets will solve nearly all problems.

      Nothing is free. I'm lost on this concept. What is a free market? Small businesses are the best for the economy, but I'm not sure if that answers the statement-like query or not. I do think Walmart is bad for the economy, does that count?

      13. The graduated income tax amounts to unfair and unconstitutional confiscation.

      Almost everybody in power is corrupt in their own sinister ways.

      14. The Education Department, the EPA and other Executive Branch agencies should be eliminated.

      They are also corrupt.

      15. Foreign aid is a waste of taxpayer's money and should be discontinued.

      Overall, I'd say that we need to take care of our own country first.

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      I guess I'm doing this in parts of 5, which is kind of queer since 26 is not divisible by 5 with an even number. Okay, who need decimals anyway...

      6. "Drill baby drill" is the answer to energy issues.

      Absolutely not! Big oil is not the solution and whoever says that is a blind retard.

      7. Evolution is an unproved theory.

      Everything adapts, acclimates and evolves, but anybody that thinks this theory is valid when concerning speciation concepts needs to go back to politics, more or less. The "theory of evolution" involves more storytelling antics than the Bible itself! Ask any alien about DNA splicing like me, and we'll tell ya all about it!

      8. Creationism or "intelligent" design should be taught in public schools.

      I don't think either should be taught. There is nothing positive that can come from the humanoid shortcomings and the "allowed" science that is published is no more valid than ancient myths & folklore. Try me on that one, I dare ya...

      9. Affirmative action amounts to discrimination against whites.

      Oh my gawd... I have no idea what this means... The only racist people I see are the ones that don't let racism die... I'm a single male alien that likes Earth girls, so I guess I'm exempt from that convo...

      10. Sharia law is spreading across the US.

      I have no idea what that is. Laws often sound like dogma dung, so I'll leave it at that.

      Okay, so I got like 16 more to cover when I get a chance; cheers!

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      @Ralph Deeds: You have succeeded in that, as the Hub is very entertaining and energetic! I'll even vote it up, when I get done with this quick comment.

      I'll go through the list as I find the time, maybe more people need to do such things.

      Okay, so fairness is not a part of the game; well, that's normal I suppose. The GOP was hijacked? Dang, I wish I knew more about this stuff. I'd prefer that we talk about quantum entanglement or something more normal. Okay...

      I think you mean we don't need extremists on either side. Anyway, I'll tackle the first 5 of 26 on your list:

      1. Global warming is a hoax.

      This is a 2-part discussion. We do have solar alignments and cosmic reasons that does cause change over a prolonged period of time, but for anybody to say that the Homo sapiens haven't help add to the Global Warming process is a fool, nonetheless.

      2. Not sure Obama was born in the U.S.

      I don't know the guy personally, so I can't say either way. I once heard that Kenya was missing a villager, but I don't know if any truth was involved or not.

      3. Obama is a secret Muslim.

      I doubt if the guy is Christian, plus he could easily be a closet homosexual for all we know.

      4. Handgun control violates the Second Amendment.

      Handgun control does not violate our second amendment. There is nothing wrong with removing lunatics that have 50-round clips from society.

      5. Licensed gun owners should be able to "carry" at any public event, in public buildings, schools, etc.

      Definitely not. We got enough bombastic, spastic, trigger-happy freaks out there, and I have no problem with people not bringing their guns to public places.

      Okay, I got 21 more topics to cover in due time; ha-ha! This is such a fun Hub. : )

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      My intent was to have some fun, inject a little humor into the HubPages game. Fairness to the Tea Partiers was not one of my uppermost thoughts.! I wish the best for the GOP which has been hijacked by mouthbreathers from the Tea Party and money from the Koch brothers. The country needs two strong parties, center-left and center-right in my opinion. We don't need the likes of Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      I like the Republican Party. We need more crazy people like Ronald Reagan in the office, as that fellow didn't play around. A long time ago, I even heard that he bombed people for burning our flag. We need more gung-ho people in charge that don't play the political correctness game. I need to dissect that list of 26 whenever I find the time, though, as I don't think it was fair to lump everybody into one category that thinks some of that stuff is valid. I think that was great, to list all those topics. Man, a person could have a field day with this hub, in more ways than one! I like all this possible charisma and ineptness being wrapped into one coil of confusion... I'll most likely be back... LOL!

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      This is Claire Conner, and she’s written a book called “Wrapped In The Flag” that the Koch Brothers and the Tea Party definitely do not want you to read.

      From her website:

      “Claire was twelve years old when her parents dove into the world of paranoid politics, a world dominated by the John Birch Society, an anti-Communist, anti-federal government movement. ‘We’re taking back the country’ was the Birch mantra.”

      Claire’s parents were the first two Birch members in the entire city of Chicago. Her father, Stillwell J. Conner, became a National Council member and remained in top leadership for thirty-two years. Her mother was a partner in all things Birch.”

      In her book, Conner rings the alarm about how the Republican Party has been thoroughly hijacked by a dangerous coalition of Tea Partiers, libertarians, corporate interests, gun-nuts, the religious far right; interests that, she argues, constitute a newly revamped John Birch Society.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkJuqdolcpY

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      "What's all the hoopla and ballyhoo about? By the way, speciation concepts are generally stupid anyway..."

      The Tea Party has all but wrecked the Republican Party, not to mention the country.

      What is a "speciation concept?" I'm not familiar with the term.

      Thanks for your comment!

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      Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

      Wow! This was interesting to read! I'm glad I found this hub, as this site was starting to get temporarily stale and/or stagnant...

      Politics is definitely out of my league, but out of that list of 26 items for the Tea Partier, some of them made sense to me and some of them were totally ignorant. I mean, I like tea. I usually mix my tea jugs with half green, half black and a bit of chamomile and honey, but never really had a party with it. I'm confused... What's all the hoopla and ballyhoo about? By the way, speciation concepts are generally stupid anyway...

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      I must be in HSchneider's party, great hub.

      Voted up, useful, awesome, interesting, shared and pinned.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Wizard, I am just trying to help you. You can overcome your Liberal intolerance if you work at it. Tea Partiers are here to help you. It's a big tolerant tent -- come on in.

      It hurts when your ideology is fundamentally flawed, but you still have a chance to come over to liberty and personal responsibility. We'll welcome you.

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      "What you clearly misunderstand is that your ideology wilts under cursory scrutiny, leaving you with only bullying and name-calling. Have fun impugning the entire Tea Party: it's all you have left to do."

      Yeah right—you truly know my "ideology" because I acknowledged and agreed with an opinion that there are some bad behaviors in a group of ideologues who are blatantly intolerant and biased.

      Then you defensively hurl accusations and labels at me (which I'm supposed to ignore) because you are the truly "educated" one. Please, take your smug hypocrisy some place else because you're doing the very same thing that you accuse others of doing here.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "I was just trying, apparently unsuccessfully, to educate you a bit on the Constitution and separation of church and state"

      Sure, if you think the US Constitution extends to other documents, you can call your attempt a reeducation a success.

      You already know this, but I'm happy to point out your duplicity: the US Constitution prohibits Congress from passing laws 'respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.' I suspect you and I agree that this is a good amendment.

      The remainder of your argument is specious. There's nothing in the US Constitution about praying in school or putting up a menorah on the courthouse lawn. What we have is a healthy debate about those trivial issues. The US Constitution is mum about it.

      Now, I'm happy to debate these issues with you, but don't try to reeducate anyone according to your ideology.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      " The Tea Party Movement has clearly become a haven for those kinds of behaviors. "

      As is the Democratic party (Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, Tony Weiner) and the Republican Party (Newt Gingrich, Jack Abramoff, John Boehner.) What you clearly misunderstand is that your ideology wilts under cursory scrutiny, leaving you with only bullying and name-calling. Have fun impugning the entire Tea Party: it's all you have left to do.

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      "You've given up your narrative for the nyah nyah argument: since someone won't tolerate you, then you won't tolerate them. It's classic grade-school reasoning, but that's OK. Your ideology doesn't stand up to scrutiny so all you have left is bullying. I get that."

      Nice jujitsu—I'll try to be more clear. Your snide tone says it all, but I'll tolerate it and try to make my point again. We (as in you and I) should not have to tolerate bias, lies, ignorance and behaviors that rule out rational thought. The Tea Party Movement has clearly become a haven for those kinds of behaviors. You can berate me all you like, but if you can't admit that many in the Tea Party are ignorant, biased and blind in their hatred of "government," then you are the one who can't tolerate truth and fact.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      I don't think so. I was just trying, apparently unsuccessfully, to educate you a bit on the Constitution and separation of church and state. I'd faint if you ever admitted you were wrong. BTW, please give us your score. I'm betting you may come close to 100%!

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Try this:"

      Ralph, your contradicted yourself in your own citation, but that's OK because you probably didn't even read it anyway. And it's Wikipedia.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "You don't seem to appreciate a clear distinction regarding "tolerance.""

      I do appreciate that tolerance should be universal. When libs roll out the name-calling (see above) they give up the debate for ideas.

      "...and ignorance in people who have no tolerance for disagreement"

      You've given up your narrative for the nyah nyah argument: since someone won't tolerate you, then you won't tolerate them. It's classic grade-school reasoning, but that's OK. Your ideology doesn't stand up to scrutiny so all you have left is bullying. I get that.

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      nicomp: "I love liberal tolerance!"

      You don't seem to appreciate a clear distinction regarding "tolerance."

      It's onething to be tolerant of people with whom you disagree, but quite another to tolerate lies, dilusions and ignorance in people who have no tolerance for disagreement—especially if the other side doesn't share the same beliefs.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Try this:

      Separation of church and state in the United States

      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Jump to: navigation, search

      "Separation of church and state" (sometimes "wall of separation between church and state") is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The phrase has since been repeatedly used by the Supreme Court of the United States.

      The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." The modern concept of a wholly secular government is sometimes credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke, but the phrase "separation of church and state" in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper.

      Echoing the language of the founder of the first Baptist church in America, Roger Williams—who had written in 1644 of "[A] hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world"— Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."[1]

      Jefferson's metaphor of a wall of separation has been cited repeatedly by the U.S. Supreme Court. In Reynolds v. United States (1879) the Court wrote that Jefferson's comments "may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the [First] Amendment." In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), Justice Hugo Black wrote: "In the words of Thomas Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect a wall of separation between church and state."[2]

      However, the Court has not always interpreted the constitutional principle as absolute, and the proper extent of separation between government and religion in the U.S. remains an ongoing subject of impassioned debate.[3][4][5][6]

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Tea Baggers are at the top of the list for the most ignorant people I know. Most of them have no idea what they're talking about."

      I love liberal tolerance!

      "... laughing at her when she said she was unaware of a separation of church and state in the Amendments to the U.S. Constitution"

      Hmmm... and which amendments are those?

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      Aunt Jimi 4 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

      Tea Baggers are at the top of the list for the most ignorant people I know. Most of them have no idea what they're talking about. Like Christine O'Donnell who thought her audience was laughing with her when in fact they were laughing at her when she said she was unaware of a separation of church and state in the Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. I have heard so many Tea Baggers say stupid things that I would have more money than Darrell Issa if I had a quarter for every time one of them opened their mouth.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      "Tea Party is an umbrella term for all of the splinter groups whose basic common value is that they don't want to pay taxes or participate in the nation as a whole. Basically they are mostly concerned with selfish self interest."

      Nicely twisted. Basically we are concerned with getting the government out of our private lives. I'm pretty sure we're participating because you are so concerned about us.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks for your comment. But you didn't give us your score!

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      I love being used by the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove. It's great to be associated with successful people.

      Have you ever asked a poor person for a job?

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Very true. They are being used by the likes of Karl Rove and the Koch brothers. Thanks for the comments.

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      TheWizardofWhimsy 4 years ago

      The saddest part is that many of these folks aren't self-aware and tend to project their fears and resentments onto others who don't share their beliefs —"The Enemy!"

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      peanutroaster 4 years ago from New England

      Great article. Tea Party is an umbrella term for all of the splinter groups whose basic common value is that they don't want to pay taxes or participate in the nation as a whole. Basically they are mostly concerned with selfish self interest.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks, folks, for your comments.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      This is a good hub Ralph. I am a tea drinking, flag waving, patriotic American and NONE member of "the tea party."

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      d.william , I'll take that as acquiescence.

      Work on that tolerance, OK?

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      d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      balderdash. that is not even worth commenting on.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      d.william , but Liberal Progressive Democrats embrace all beliefs, right? I mean, you can marry whomever you want, worship whomever you want, smoke whatever you want, be as stupid as you want, yeah? Isn't that the Big Tent mantra of the Dems? Isn't stupidity a choice that should be embraced and supported?

      Where's your tolerance?

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      d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      ni: do you really think that ignorance should just be tolerated instead of being addressed and corrected? Stupidity is certainly not the preferred way of life in a country that boasts of being the biggest and best in the world. people hardly tolerate nature's diversity, but fight for the right to be uneducated, and ill informed? Great american values to pass on to the next generation.

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      d.william , your tolerance is admirable. Keep fighting the good fight, as long as everyone agrees with you.

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      d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      What a great hub. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. It is quite scarey that such a large portion of the American people have such limited mental capacities, and believe anything at all that Fox news says as gospel.

      It is the ultimate version of the blind leading the blind. How lack of education harms progression and aids the people who control us.

      Bigotry, hatred and stupidity is alive and well and still living in America.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks for your perceptive comment.

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      Sanxuary 4 years ago

      This movement was actually legitimate when it was started. It actually proves a scary thing. It was taken over and changed by right wing political goals or literally hijacked. One has to wonder what movement might suffer the same fate. Technically any movement that sides politically with any party stands a chance of being stolen to silence them or steal their voice. I for one have no idea why Christians have anything to do with these two parties and even wonder if they have anything to do with them at all. Personally they have no so called Christian values at all. How can you claim to be conservative when you can not even balance the books, tax the rich or make a Corporation pay its taxes? I think its more important to know that these parties actually represent a minority and not even a vote for them constitutes any affiliation at all. We are only voting for whomever is willing to use any common sense and a way out of this nightmare they have created for us. Every charity, religion, and dollar is stolen from anyone with a better idea then these control freaks and vultures.

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      Ralph Deeds 4 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks! I'd be honored if you linked this hub. Your comment on one of the forums caught my attention. I'll check out your hubs also.

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      Shyron E Shenko 4 years ago from Texas

      Ralph this is an awesome hub, I hope you don't mind is I link to it.

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      That's a good one. An example of what's happened to the GOP--taken over by mouth breathers.

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      Wizard Of Whimsy 5 years ago from The Sapphire City

      The typical Tea Party dupe and what they think wisdom is . . .

      http://youtu.be/9PFd_-4F2vY

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Move-on and the Tea Party spring from some of the same sources of dissatisfaction with economic conditions including greatly increased inequality of income and wealth in the past 30 years, the costly, unnecessary wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, politicians lining their own pockets while ignoring the public interest while responding to special interests. The Tea Party in large part has been stimulated by people like the Koch brothers, Scaife-Mellon for their own hidden interests while the Occupy Wall Street movements has been a spontaneous outpouring of resentment against the depredations of the Wall Street Banksters. Move-on supports liberal/progressive public policy issues and candidates. Call it a syndrome if you wish.

      Here's a link to Senator Lugar's voting record on a variety of issues. He is a traditional Republican conservative who has been willing to work with Democrats in the public interest in the best traditions of the GOP, now obliterated by red neck, mouth breathing Tea Party ignoramuses.

      http://cabinet.ontheissues.org/Senate/Richard_Luga...

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      My question about MoveOn.org was ignored as were the Lugar facts. Not surprising.

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      You may be right. "Disease" may be more accurate than "syndrome." Mourdock's nomination may be a blessing for Democrats because it improved their chance of gaining a seat.

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Funny, a grass-roots movement is a 'syndrome' when it doesn't serve the liberal left. Is Move-on.org a syndrome?

      Lugar is conservative? The NRA disagrees, Redstate.com disagrees, The National Journal demurs, and thatsmycongress.com begs to differ. Lugar voted for TARP... voted for bailing out GM and Chrysler... voted to confirm Sotomayor and Kagan.

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks for your comment. Richard Lugar, a respected conservative Republican who was too willing to work with Democrats in the national interest is the latest victom of the Tea Party syndrome.

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      peanutroaster 5 years ago from New England

      Excellent article. The Tea Party has infected New Hampshire. All the we get out of the state house now is lower cigarette taxes, less money to hospitals, decreased gun control and restrictions to women's health issues. They ran on jobs and the economy but once in power they started a war on the needy and women while working for the NRA. Some bills even tried to introduce religion into the public schools. Tea Party is a step backwards to the dark ages.

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      Barky Von Schnauzer 5 years ago

      Hey TEABagee's how's the view from down under?

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Tensions within the Tea Party help explain the volatility of the Republican primary campaign, as candidates seek to appeal to competing elements of the Tea Party with varying success

      .http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/...

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Daniela, thanks for your comment. The Tea Party is a festering morass of ignorance and prejudice manipulated by the likes of the Koch brothers and Dick Armey and others to serve their own selfish interests.

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      Danielle Lopez Newcomb 5 years ago from Arkansas

      Very interesting hub. The "Tea People" as I like to call them are a bizarre bunch, in my opinion. Thanks for the covering these points, I feel a little better knowing now that I don't agree with any of those. =P Voted up!

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Well, I don't think it would be practical to "go out of pocket" for heart surgery or for other huge hospital bills that would bankrupt a millionaire. Not to mention the cost of care for many chronic illnesses. The answer is some form of government, single-payer health care insurance based not on, pay for individual services, but per capita care.

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      I agree with your last point. If we humans went out of pocket for health care, prices would plummet. Tort reform would also be nice.

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks for your comment. Sorry if I didn't respond to your previous comment on Social Security. I haven't heard that SS turns down more claims than any private insurer. What type of claims are you referring to? My impression is that health insurance companies turn down complaints whenever there is the slightest excuse, e.g., failure to disclose a minor pre-existing condition unrelated to a current claim. Did your comment refer to SS total and permanent disability claims. It occurs to me that SS receives many more claims than "any private insurer." Your point is not clear to me. In my opinion, the health care insurance industry is a huge non-value-added component of our broken health care system.

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      Interesting, because several years ago, on another hub, I pointed out to you that Social Security turns down more claims than any private insurer. Our convo stopped at that point.

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Well, there's some truth to that. In GM it used to be "We're from central office and we're here to help you." But I doubt that anyone eligible for Social Security and Medicare would agree.

      Thanks for your comment.

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      nicomp really 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

      The worst thing you can hear: "We're from the government and we're here to help."

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks. Done.

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      wiseoldaccountant 5 years ago from Buffalo and Orchard Park NY

      Great Hub!

      I love the way this hub is making people reply.

      You may want to add one more question:

      Do you believe that all Tea Party candidates are prophets sent by God to save the world?

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      Ralph Deeds 5 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the Hub. I had fun putting it together.

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      tangoshoes 5 years ago

      I just realized that this hub has entertained me for over two hours with it's links and video. You have entertained me (that quiz was hilarious) and inspired me (Bertrand Russell).

      So often the news depresses me. It's really great when we can poke a little fun at it =D I just thought I'd take the time to let you know exactly what one reader thinks.

      Thank you!

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks, Nell. I had fun writing this one.

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      Neil Sperling 6 years ago from Port Dover Ontario Canada

      well done - Bravo!

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Bill Keller says "the Tea Party may be over." Watch Rick Perry for the answer.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/is-the-t...

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      Wizard Of Whimsy 6 years ago from The Sapphire City

      Oh Saul Alinsky—thanks Ralph—but wait, Saul Alinsky is dead. . . abviously! [sic]

      Besides, Dick Armey and the Koch brothers may have co-opted Alinsky's ideas, but have no doubt who gave the teabaggers their marching orders.

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Saul Alinsky wrote the organinzing playbook for the Tea Party.

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      kevin 6 years ago

      Why do think I was not calm and thoughtful in my response? I didn't use all caps, right?

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      Wizard Of Whimsy 6 years ago from The Sapphire City

      Good grief, if this is your calm and thoughtful, I'd hate to see your excitable and thoughtless side!

      So WHO is "Alinsky?"

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      Kevin 6 years ago

      To the "Whiz",

      Ralph can't defend my assursions of liberals. They must abviously be true. Alinsky is not a what, but a whom.

      To Ralph,

      Who am I vilifying. I also merely listed what I "observe", not perceive, to be the traits of most of the democratic party, et al. So which ones do you fall into or pocess? By your continued non-response I can assume all or most of them. I know you wear them with pride.

      By the way, you have a perseption problem. Might have your shrink take a look at it.

      Calmly and thoughtfully,

      Kevin - still sane and not on Meds.

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Kevin, who am I vilifying? I've merely listed what I perceive to be some of the characteristic beliefs of some of my right wing Tea Tard friends. If the shoe fits I suggest you wear it with pride.

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      Wizard Of Whimsy 6 years ago from The Sapphire City

      I don't think Ralph wants to defend YOUR assertions, Kevin and he didn't make any accusations to support. And what is "Alinsky?"

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      kevin 6 years ago

      No, you are the one who is vilifying. We can go back and forth all day long but the fact remains that you can't defend my assursions, nor support your accusations. Typical Lib. Deflect and deny. Alinsky runs strong in you.

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      Wizard Of Whimsy 6 years ago from The Sapphire City

      Abviously!

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      You are the one who's vilifying. Just let us know if you passed the Tea Party syndrome test. My reading of your answers, although you equivocated a couple of times, is that you scored near 100% and are therefore entitled to a lifetime membership in the Tea Party and a front-row seat at the next GOP candidates' debate.

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      Kevin- No Whimsy needed 6 years ago

      No hysterics here. You folks still can't give a rational response to anything I have said, can you? Not surprised.

      A liberals view of a debate is to name call and villify someone and then avoid any any rational thought.

      Wizard of Whimsy??? Abviously it is you that needs to get off the meds.

      Still waiting for a response to my assurtions.

      No doubt I hit home for many of you on this post.

      Calmly and soberly yours,

      kevin

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      Wizard Of Whimsy 6 years ago from The Sapphire City

      Kevin, take your meds and stop the hysterics.

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      Kevin 6 years ago

      You clearly did not read my comments. You could not argue your way out of a wet paper sack. I try to offer some respectful responses to your generalizations and untrue comments and you can't touch them.

      As I said before, your subject was the Tea party and you threw out almost everything any conservative has ever said. Hardly a rational argument.

      Let me now be perfectly blunt.

      So using your logic, that must make all liberals; socailists, marxists, communists, pedophiles, rapists, stoners, NAMBLA members, racisits, thugs, spouse abusers,

      anarchists, slave owners, co-dependent, misogynists, sadists. That sounds about right. after all, these are the people that you lionize. Class, real class.

      Now go back in your mothers basement and write some more really cool stuff.

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks, Wiz. I put it to good use.

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Kevin, thanks for your snide comment. The questions are clear and simple. Please give us your score!

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      Kevin 6 years ago

      I notice you don't address any of the specifics. This is typical of the left. Please use fact and rational thought to justify your positions. You are like a person who farts in a room and blames somebody else. You deflect attention from yourself. Back up your claims.

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      Ralph Deeds 6 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Thanks for your comment which proved my point. Your score of 100% qualifies you for membership in the Tea Party and a discount at your local in-patient mental health clinic.

      :-)

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      kevin 6 years ago

      I will say this for liberals. You folks sure are great at framing the debate. Most everything on your list has nothing to do with the tea party. Nothing.

      What you are looking at are the views of people on the right in totallity. Somewhat. As I said you folks like to change things to suit your position. In all honesty, what you have done is word everything to make it sound like Conservatives are unreasonable. Funny thing is, it is liberals who can't have an honest debate about anything. I do mean anything. I will address each point.

      Of course you can all tell me what a looser I am, it's OK I am used to it.

      1. The argument is about man made golbal warming. Al Gore declared it so, then said if you did not believe what he believed you were stupid or something to that extent. THERE WAS NEVER AN OPEN DEBATE OR FORM ON GLOBAL WARMING. If the people preaching global warming are so sure of it, they should welcome an open debate, on TV, with both sides represented using actual facts. Would you not agree. In addition, if MMGW is fact, why has it been necesessary to suppress certain facts by the IPCC and U of EA? Also, why the change from GW Global climate change? The climate is always changing. You folks have your asses covered so well that an honest debate could not be had. Now, every type of weather pattern is MMGW.

      2. Obama not born in the US. Yes I think he was and most people do. However, could we see his college transcripts and other "secret" info he is withholding? He certainly has given some people eason to question amny things about him. If the liberal media climbed up his ass like they did Republicans, the questions may not have been asked.

      3. Maybe is a Muslim maybe he isn't. BFD. He sure hung out out in a radical church.

      4. It does. why do you think it doesn't? The real argument is why would you prevent a law abiding citizen from protecting him or especially herself? Please look at the facts. Every, and I mean every time guns laws are relaxed, CCW permits issued for example, violent crime goes down. The US Cities with the highest violent crime rates, all have the most restrictive handgun laws.

      5. You are generalizing. I thought only Conservatives did that.

      6. Not a tea party platform. Most Conservatives would like an all of the above strategy to reduce are dependance on foreign oil. What Conservatives don't like is Green tech being rammed down our throats. In addition, if it is so great, the Gov't would not have to fund it. The Dems are against big business unless it is their big business. Al Gore has made tens of millions on it. At this point it can't sustain itself. So what do Does Obama do, says he wants to make traditional sources of fuel so expensive, green is cheap. That does not work in the real world.

      7. Many holes in evolution. I beleive it, but you can't explain how matter was formed. Liberals believe in Socialism and Marxism even though they don't work. Yet you folks are still pushing it. I guess we can just disagree on this one. i won't belittle you if yuou won't beliitle me.

      8. Why not teach both as a theory. We are supposed to be teacing kids how to think, not what to think.

      9. Of course it does. Either we are all equal or we are not. Your soft biggotry is what is keeping people down. But then that is what Progessivism is all about. Power to control others. If you don't treat people as equals they will never be equal. Your low expectations are holding them back.

      10. Factually correct. As more Muslims come to this Country, it stands to reason that some of them beleive in Sharia law. Therefore it is speading.

      11. Big Gov't is the enemy to freedom. This Country its' Constitution were founded on the priciple of individual Rights and Responsibilty. Gov't gets in the way of this. That should be pretty obvious.

      12. They will. It is when Gov't gets in the way too much that the problems start. Basic laws for safety and fair play are great. The Gov't determining the winners and losers is not. Just look at the housing crash.

      13. Who are you to determine what is fair? What exactly is the 'Fair" rate. Would you support a flat tax. Everyone pays something. Tough thing for Dem's on this is that you would lose your control of the recipient class. Everyone pays, and no loop holes. Traditioanlly, Dem's don't like this. They can't victimize anyone.

      14. Why do we need thre different levels of the Education dept. More big Gov't, that's all. When the EPA usurps power giver to Congress, yeah, we have a problem with that and you should to. Do we need to get rid of them? No just cut them down to size.

      15. Much of foreign aid is a waste. Much of it should be curtailed. We are the most generous Nation. Our hard earned money shoul be given effectively.

      16. The rights of workers to organized should be voluntary. If it is that good, why does it have to be mandatory. So tell me, if you opened a business that employed say 15 people, are you telling me that you would call the SEIU because you are not capable nd your employees are not capable of negociating a fair wage? I am playing my BULL$hit card on this one. Also, if City coffers are being drained because fireman are retiring at 50 with 75-100% pay and benefits, you clearly don't understand economics. So instead of an honest debate on this in Wisconsin, you have Union members beat people up. Lokk it up it is there clear as night and day. WHile we are on the subject, why do Liberals focus on ire, Policw and teachers. What about the fourth and fifth guy watching the others dig a hole? They are getting paid by the same State ot Local Gov't. Tactics, great tactics. Dishonest? Yes but who cares as long as they get what they want. Screw the tax payer.

      17. You have no problem killing an inoscent child and calling it choice, but you have a problem killing someone guilty of a violent crime. Does not make sense.

      18. Law and order should not be a high priority? If you Liberals would stop vitimizing people, more people would choose a different path instead of crime. I wish you cared as much about their vistims.

      19. You are totally generalizing again. Shame on you. What we should not be doing is normalizing teen pregnancy. It begets more irresponsible behavior. But I guess you are creating a new recipient though.

      20. Abortion isn't murder. It is clearly killing a child. Come on be honest, you have the right to ask me to leave your house, but you can't puncture my brain stem and rip off my arms and legs while I am leaving. See number 17

      21. I don't care for anyone when they have an agenda. You can't legislate respect. If gay people really want what they consider equal rights, get the Gov't out of the mariage business. As far as Gay issues being taught in school, there are those that want it taught at a grade school age and younger and also as a preferable orientation. Please, that is just plain nuts.

      22. What is rediculous is the notion that some people don't have to obey our laws. We need immigration in this Country, legal immigration. Anthing otherwise is an assault to everyone of any Natioanality that has come here legally. But then you could not victimize those people could you.

      We don't believe that at all. You are generalizing again. There are those on the left that think the earth should have the same rights as people. That is funny.

      I conclusion, if you would like to respond, great. But use facts. I have been called enough names and don't care about yaur "opinions". Just the facts.

      I could make my own list and villify every one on the left pretty easy, but that is not what "Tea Party People do"

      Oh, one more thing. Next time you have a rally, could you pick up your trash. Check out any Conservative rally if you need to see how to do it.

      Thanks a bunch.

      XOXO

      Kevin

      Don't justify your postion based on my spelling or sentence structure. I was a Business Major. Thanks.