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The Illegal Aliens and the American Flag? [F0 960]

Updated on June 25, 2019

When you see thousands of people flying a foreign flag and racing toward the border of your country, you think Invasion. What else could it mean?

Do you see anyone carrying an American Flag?
Do you see anyone carrying an American Flag?

The Illegal aliens fly their flag, not the American Flag!

When the crowd of thousands of people from Guatemala and other countries started their march to the US Border, they flew the flag of their country and not that of America. This is more like what you see when a foreign country invades another country. When they get on the foreign soil of that country, they want to plant their flag to acknowledge that they have conquered that country. This exactly the symbolism of that march, and it demonstrates that they were not coming to America to be Americans, but to the victor gain its spoils.

Why does the left support this kind of invasion on American soil? Why do they want these people to get a fast track to American Citizenship? Why do they prefer to help these invaders as to helping the homeless people in America?

The answer to all these questions is that the left wants America to become a Socialist Country. Americans don't want the country to be socialist so the left encourages people that don't believe in American values. These are the illegal aliens, that only want freebies and getting jobs so they can send money to their families in other countries. Countries that don't take care of their people.

The Los Angeles Protest in the past by Illegal Aliens a few years ago.

The illegal aliens not hampered by the US Immigration or the immigration laws protested in the street of Los Angeles. They should have been arrested and dealt with according to the existing immigration laws, but they weren't even disturbed. They flew the flag of Mexico while burning the US flag in the street. If this was done in any other country would that country have tolerated them?

The point is that these illegal aliens that protested in Los Angeles didn't care about America, Americans, Legal Immigrants, or the immigration laws of the US. Yet, it is these people that the democrats want to not only come into the country, but they want them to get a fast track to American Citizenship. Why should these irreverent invaders get that privilege, especially when legal immigrants have to go through the legal immigration process?


To Wall or Not to Wall is that the question?

To Wall or Not to Wall is that the question? can be modeled from the William Shakespeare play of Hamlet, "To be, or not to be, that is the question:".

The connection is To be the Wall, or not to be the Wall and that is the question. That is the premise of this article. This question of the wall has been going on since 2016, and now today March 10, 2019 we are no closer to answering the question.

The issue has not been fully discussed because the wall has been cloaked by money. The democrats have refused to budget the money for even twenty percent of the wall. They shutdown the government over a $5 billion budget item on the wall. They actually offered a settlement to close the budget with $1.9 billion. That means they are shutting down the government for $3.1 billion on a $4.4 trillion budget.

Is that really a valid reason to shutdown the US government? Does it smack of playing politics because they now have some control from the house to stop whatever they want? How does shutting down the US government help the country, the people and how does it uphold the oath to office taken by the democrats that caused the shutdown.


The issue of the wall is not monetary, it is national defense.

This is not a money issue, but that is what the democrats have made it. In fact, it is a national defense issue that will protect the country from decades of allowing anyone that can walk across the border to become pseudo American citizens. It also allows the drug cartel to continue to get $20 billion of illegal drugs into the country. Along with those illegal drugs comes the criminals to distribute it, manage it, and use violence to keep their property. It also allows child trafficking and all human trafficking to make their way across an open border.

The border is also how illegal guns are taken into the country. But the democrats use the money to summarily shut down any discussion of these facts. To them their is no distinction between legal immigration, and illegal alien immigration. Which costs the US more than the cost of the entire wall which whether it is $25 billion or twice would still save us money. The cost of the wall is a one time expense, with some maintenance costs per year. But we already have an estimated 20 million illegal aliens in the country, and we have thousands of them in our overcrowded jails and prisons. These are yearly expenses that could total enough to buy a border wall every year.

The tough question for the democrats.

The tough question for the democrats or anyone opposed to the wall is if we put the money to buy the wall aside for the moment, what is the problem about the wall.

What major problem would putting the wall up on the US southern border cause? How would it be a problem for the US? How would it be a problem for Americans, or Legal Immigrants?

What kind of compelling arguments would there be against the Wall without the issue of the money to build it?

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Would you still have a problem with building the wall if the money to build it was not an issue?

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The US southern border wall

If the Wall went up and was operational would you still be against it

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Would an existing US southern border wall, assume that is already exists and is operational pose any real threat for America, Americans or legal immigrants?

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    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 weeks ago

      Vivian

      Your are very welcome.

      I know that you are very capable of taking care of LL and others like him, but they clearly have no bounds. The left apparently weren't taught any manners.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 weeks ago

      In the meanwhile, lets talk about the democrats running for congress.

      Warren the apparent winner of last nights ten little Indians pun intended, was really mad in her tone, but she palefaced in contrast to Bernie who looks insane.

      Healthcare

      Your health is not in the hands of equal quality of care, whether you buy into the socialist a government run system, or the classic private system. The reason is that all doctors have the same licenses but they don't have the same experience, competence, track record or knowledge. The point is that finding a doctor is different than getting a doctor from a pool of doctors.

      When you find a good dentist, a good mechanic, a good repair person, a good any kind of person, you want to keep them. When ACA came into being president Obama agreed with my opinion here, but as the ACA became law, the truth came out, but it was too late then. You lost that doctor, you lost that plan. You know who didn't lose and kept everything, the federal government workers because their plan was to de facto gold standard plan.

      The democrats don't want to spend a dime on the Wall to protect us from many threats like the gangs, the drug cartel, child sex trafficking and even the terrorists. Remember what only 19 terrorists did to our country.

      But the threat for healthcare is very real. For every illegal alien that gets into the country, the democrats want them to be covered by the same government run healthcare system.

      This is not a free healthcare system by any means. It is not an effective healthcare system when the government runs it. Look at all the fraud that came with the Medicare system. That fraud didn't help the sick, it help the criminals letting them use Medicare as if it was a bank robbery, but without guns, just a stroke of the pen or keyboard.

      The cost is in several Trillions of dollars each year. Yet, the democrats couldn't spend even a Billion for the Wall. A Wall that when it prevents more illegals coming into the country actually saves money because we don't have to pay for free education. And we prevent illegal drugs coming into the country, a country that lost the war against both gangs, and drugs several decades ago. These illegal drugs cause many kinds of sickness, mental illness, and even leading to suicides. It also supports a network of gangs to distribute and protect their illegal drugs. The shock wave from that ripples to every part of the country, and it then becomes a local and state issue, not just federal. Our prisons and jails have filled up to the point that judges are releasing prisoners across the country. This is not the second chance that helps us, it is the second chance that they get to do their criminal activities another time.

      The only worthwhile thing about the ACA was the preexisting condition, and I submit that could and should have been handled with a single bill in congress. It would have been implemented quicker and more effectively.

      The democrats now want you to believe that President Trump and the republicans want to kill that preexisting condition win. But, that isn't true, anymore than anyone will get rid of Medicare or SS.

      Canada is not the utopia for free healthcare, and remember the old saying you get what you pay for. To which, I always add, if you are very lucky. But there is no chance and the history of Canadian healthcare bears out that this is an effective healthcare system. There are just so many doctors in any country, and you do the math and see how many people outnumber the doctors. There are also so many hospital beds and see how fast you can get one when you need it, and how fast they will get you out of it, dead, alive, or still sick.

      A good friend of mine married a Canadian and she moved to Canada. Her husband was an electrician and over the years he messed up his knees to the point the he had trouble walking and he was in pain all the time. It took him two years to go up the queue to get the operation. And because she was still an American citizen she went across the border to the US to get her healthcare treatment.

      Remember before the ACA became law, congress was asked what is in the ACA legislation, and the reply was we will have to pass the legislation before we will know the details. Is that what people want from a government run healthcare system?

      The government is not a business and it has no real acumen in running a business. Healthcare is a business and look at the bang up job they do with Medicare and SS. Do you want to spread their business expertise farther with taking over all the healthcare?

      Look at how they run the National Highway System, the National Infrastructure, the Railroads, and the ACA. Look at how they brought NASA to a stop, and our astronauts had to bum a ride off the Russian rockets to get to the International Space Station because we no longer had a space shuttle. Much of what NASA was doing is now in the hands of private companies.

      And does that make you feel confident about the Feds running anything else, especially something that your life depends on?

      This Sander, Warren dream is a nightmare for the rest of us. You are going to be taxed to where even if you were deep into the middle class you would need this socialist program. The rich are never affected by the federal government. The rich will be using concierge healthcare that they have been using for a long time.

      And as long as the Internal Revenue Code allows them to bypass Income Tax at any marginal tax rate, they will continue to get richer. But, your chances of surviving death or debilitation go way down'

      The quality of healthcare today is dismal, and it won't get any better with government taking over healthcare.

      If we were going to spend Trillions of dollars a year, it would be better spent to cure disease. And if the money was outside of the for profit companies, we might be able to find some cures. The current healthcare system doesn't want to find a cure because that is a major loss of their huge profits. Right now while the healthcare is private, these insurance companies practice medicine without a license by telling the doctors what you are and aren't going to be able to do for their patients.

      We have a doctor shortage in this country, and in the world. Adding more people, well if you can't do the math, you shouldn't be voting.

    • Noelle7 profile image

      Vivian Coblentz 

      2 weeks ago

      Lady Liberty has no argument or facts and resorts to the stereotypical Left's version of Pee Wee Herman: "I know you are, but what am I?" Liberty is something our brave military has fought, bled, and died to protect.

      Brad,

      Cracked indeed! That's where the similarities end! As always, thank you for defending my honor like a gentleman!

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 weeks ago

      Lady Liberty represents everything that is liberty. Noelle7. You're comments are laughable at best.

      B:

      You do remind me of the Liberty Bell because it like you is Cracked!

      You don't have any comments.

    • Abecedarian profile image

      Lady Liberty 

      2 weeks ago from These United States, Texas

      Lady Liberty represents everything that is liberty. Noelle7. You're comments are laughable at best.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      3 weeks ago

      Vivian

      Thanks, and you added to it very well.

      The difference between the European immigrants that the left keeps saying is the reason why we should let anyone into the country today, is they did it legally coming through Ellis Island, and is you mentioned they did have their main reason is to be in America, and go for citizenship.

    • Noelle7 profile image

      Vivian Coblentz 

      3 weeks ago

      Brad,

      I agree that Lady Liberty doesn't represent liberty by any stretch of the imagination. However, the Left is insistent on "identifying" with things they are not.

      You tackled every point so well, there's little left for me to add.

      Storming the borders by the masses to overwhelm border security while holding up another land's flag is invasion. As you said, they proudly burn the American flag. If I were in their shoes and wanting a better life in another land, I would hardly wave the flag from crap hole I left behind--I would be kissing the flag of the country I was entering. Besides, they aren't coming here to seek a better life--they want the freebies being waved in the air by the socialists, who act like predators in a van offering candy to kids.

      As for the wall, illegal immigration fell 99% in Israel when they erected a wall. Walls work. They keep people safe on the inside, bad people out from the other side, and they maintain doors that legal people can pass through.

      It's not racist to expect people to obey the laws of our land and respect our sovereignty. What an over-used term that almost never is used accurately these days! If people storming our southern border were all white, they would still be criminal invaders, but I bet no one on the left would call you racist for not allowing them to enter illegally.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      3 weeks ago

      Lady Liberty

      64 minutes ago from These United States, Texas

      Vivian Coblentz,

      "Did it ever occur to you that carrying the flag is to show where they are coming from. Since Mexicans have become villains according to Trump, they want to let America know they are not Mexicans."

      B:

      You apparently didn't read my article.

      I have seen it right in Los Angeles where they would protest in the streets. They would put Our Flag the US Flag, apparently Not your flag or country, on fire while flying the flag of Their Country.

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      The Trumpian word invasion is typical of those that want to support the lies and abuse.

      B:

      Trumpian is synonymous with American, and the only lies are spewed by you and the left. It is an Invasion when they DEMAND entry into the US. That march of several thousand people from Central America ran through the border of Mexico and the pictures of their march show them flying their flag while destroying the US flag.

      If you use the fragment saying lies and abuse, then put some details to them.

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      Invasion definition, an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.

      B:

      This was an army, and we saw how they crashed through the southern Mexico border. This was an act of aggression and it was an invasion, but their target for the real invasion was the US Southern border.

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      These people aren't an army. They are immigrants looking for a better life. They aren't coming across illegally, they are going to a port to file for passage.

      B:

      They are an army when they invade a countries border in mass.

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      The wall is not a "simple concept" unless you are simple minded. The wall divides us, it costs a great deal of money that doesn't protect us.

      B:

      Way to win an argument, insult people.

      The wall divides us from people that break our laws, just like your locked doors at home protect you from unwanted intruders.

      What is your proof that a wall doesn't protect us, your statement isn't worth anything. The cost of the wall is a one time major cost that could be paid for what we spend on supporting over 20 million illegal aliens, including the cost of the court systems they tie up, the cost of those illegals that commit other crimes in the US, and fill up are already overcrowded jails and prisons. Many illegal aliens are gang members, and many of them work for the drug cartel. In addition to these people crossing the US border, they also bring in drugs to a country that already is flooded with drugs made domestically. The also run child and child sex trafficking across the border. What about all the gun trafficking and if the left is ever successful at outlawing guns for private citizens, guess who will supply them. And the criminals always have guns and can get more guns.

      With open borders we no longer are seen as a sovereign country. And why should people be able to circumvent the legal immigration into the country. There are people all around the world that want to come into the US and we can't take them all. Yet that is the invitation with having open borders

      Read the article, you apparently didn't do that based on your comment.

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      And its nothing like your precious gated community

      B:

      You mean like the ones that Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, and Barack Obama have around their very expensive homes.

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      and to insinuate that these immigrants are like the thieves you keep out with your gated community is just plain ignorant and racist.

      B:

      I would make that insinuation into a direct statement, Why is it plain, why is it ignorant, and how the heck is it racist?

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      The only one missing things is the one who can't see complexity.

      B:

      Complexity?

      The signature of the way left, using words without meaning or reference.

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      And as for security, isn't that why you Trump supporters always shout about securing your second amendment rights. With those, why do you need to build a wall around your house?

      B:

      Ask those on the left, Pelosi, Waters, Obama and others why they built walls around their homes?

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      LL lose the socialist manifesto and bring some real facts when you comment.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      3 weeks ago

      Vivian

      Thank you being a true American and wanting us to keep our American way of life.

      Lady Liberty is no lady, and he certainly doesn't represent American Liberty.

    • Abecedarian profile image

      Lady Liberty 

      3 weeks ago from These United States, Texas

      Vivian Coblentz,

      Did it ever occur to you that carrying the flag is to show where they are coming from. Since Mexicans have become villains according to Trump, they want to let America know they are not Mexicans.

      The Trumpian word invasion is typical of those that want to support the lies and abuse.

      Invasion definition, an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.

      These people aren't an army. They are immigrants looking for a better life. They aren't coming across illegally, they are going to a port to file for passage.

      The wall is not a "simple concept" unless you are simple minded. The wall divides us, it costs a great deal of money that doesn't protect us. And its nothing like your precious gated community and to insinuate that these immigrants are like the thieves you keep out with your gated community is just plain ignorant and racist.

      The only one missing things is the one who can't see complexity.

      And as for security, isn't that why you Trump supporters always shout about securing your second amendment rights. With those, why do you need to build a wall around your house?

    • Noelle7 profile image

      Vivian Coblentz 

      3 weeks ago

      Brad,

      I love that you state the obvious that everyone seems to be ignoring--carrying a different flag into our country as illegals storm our borders is an INVASION!!! How can people miss this? Building a wall is an effective, national defense strategy to keep us safe. It's why people live in gated communities, have alarms installed in their homes, and lock their doors. It's such a simple concept!

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      4 months ago

      Abecedarian

      There is over $20 billion in illegal drugs coming into the country every year from south of the border. Where did you get your information from Scott Belford. Have you ever seen how the Border at points of entry gets the drugs and any contraband stopped there. And with all the open areas across the border, you think that the drug cartel is getting their contraband through points of entry.

      There is also child trafficking and human trafficking going across the open border. Also, guns are being run across the border. The Drug Cartel has to take care of drug distribution, drug business management and they do a lot of it with gangs across the country.

      And why do you want people to cheat the immigration laws, while those that are going through the legal process are not having that same advantage. We already have over 20 million illegal aliens in the country now. We have plenty of legal immigrants so doing the work here is not the issue. The issue is that the democrats want to bring in their next batch of loyal voters.

      Technology won't solve the border problem, they won't stop people from getting across the border, the wall will do that.

      Why are you so against the wall? Anything else?

      Thanks

    • Abecedarian profile image

      Lady Liberty 

      4 months ago from These United States, Texas

      While Trump is fighting for a wall on the southern border, a massive number of drugs are coming in from different ports, not the southern border and when they do, its through ports of entry. The border wall is just a way to keep his base interested and in tact. If he really cared about border security, he wouldn't have frozen hiring so that they don't have enough manpower on the border. He would push for more technology on the border. But he's a builder and like on all his buildings, I'm sure he will find a place to put up a Trump Wall sign.

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