Top 20 Events Which Prove Obama Is A Marxist Communist

You are so full of crap on so many levels. Then again what would be the grand comparison of your made up hype. According to your page you our assuming its a bad thing to have read Marxist literature? Any young black person in America involved in politics probably read, new and associations with people who had views other then capitalism. Your accusations continue down a road of maybes, ignores history and are like watching an episode of ancient aliens on television. If he had some association to all these things I still have no idea where he offers any proof to be any of them and where such views have done anything to change America. The alternative view is to believe that capitalism is working in America and that we have Democratic system when we are a Republic. For the poor and powerless in America, any alternative views would be worth exploring. This does not mean that one approves of all the options or even considers them to be better then the current system of greed and corruption. According to you, if your parents had opposing views, If you read the Koran or Communist manifesto, then you have a lie to tell. By the way Bush had Chavez overthrown and on an aircraft to be murdered at one point. It was the military in their own country that realized it was their own suicide to go against the peoples wishes that made them return him to power. You never got to see that on the news at the time because we were to busy making up weapons of mass destruction stories at the UN. I love capitalism, do you have any idea when they might actually practice it? How about liberty you know religious and political freedom?

Wow. The first reason seems to suggest that if you read the books on Marxism, you are a communist. Now if Marxists/Communists are our imputed enemies, wouldn't it make sense to read up on them? Or are we afraid that if we read such literature we will somehow become converted and be called anti-American. I think we are too hung up on this. Same thing goes for the Koran. If we imagine that Muslims are our enemies, shouldn't we read their holy book to see what it is about? Wouldn't that make us better able to deal with them and protect our way of life? Or are we afraid that by reading such material we will lose faith in our religion and convert to theirs?

I just want to say one word to you. Just one word: Denmark.

It works!

So what socialist / communist laws and/or policies has obama officially enqcted in the last four years?

This is absolutley hilarious. Not a single point is valid. You can't point to one, ONE action that he took in office, any office, that points Obama to Marxism.

Just admit that you don't want a black guy in the White House.

Even if all of the above is true, all it does is show that the President looked at all sides of an issue. I'm sure Wall Street likes his kind of Communism. And you, Canadian author, come from a quasi-Socialist state, so why not deal with that instead of muddling in our affairs. Get a life. You are so freaked out over an intellectual's pursuit of knowledge from all sources.... solely because he's not spreading the jingoism of the GOP who profess to love the country, but dismantle it every opportunity. My guess? You're a plant, here to incite excitable people who have no idea of what it means to be a Communist. You probably watch FoxTV, too and want the pipeline to destroy our lands. I may sound xenophobic (I usually am not), but I think you'd do better to clean your side of the street than look for an audience here. Your accusations against the President could likely keep you from entering the country. I find them alarmist and unnecessary. It's okay to be a socialist, especially when you don't have to live like one... that's the case here, Mr. Clueless.

Wow Hal. This is scary! I realized most of this, but it is good to be reminded. We can not allow this man another 4 years! Voted up

Man, Hal this wasvery informative, thank you so much. I had my doubts about Obama for awhile...but thought maybe calling him a Communist was a little too far fetched, even though he is clearly socialist and I never liked him. I've been doing more research on him to write a research paper and i am becoming thoroughly convinced that he is a Communist. and 8th grader, he only has the rights the constitution, and the senate is filled with left wing liberals who love obama and practically believe everything he says...like he couldn't pull a fast one on them..hes done it nw for almost 4 years

Stupid paranoid americans

Hey kid, came talk to me when your commie kills this nation all together...

This is ridiculous guys.I'm an eight grader, and, reading this, I was laughing. It is stupid to sit here and call him a "Marxist" and "Communist". So what if he is, the gridlock in the senate would prevent him from passing any bills supporting communism, and he has his right to fee speech and belief as any of us do. So cut him some slack. He got dealt some terrible cards by our esteemed president Bush, and is trying to do what needs to be done to get the U.S. back on its feet, because, frankly, our right-wing friends have left us flat on our butt.

Also, truthisliberty, it is rather inappropriate to bring religion into the government. Obama is not close to Satan, and has done nothing to deserve being called as such.

How did any tyrant gain power? Through deceit, as Alinsky taught cut your hair and put on a suit. Hitler, Hugo and now obamarxist use fluffy words and a smile. Obama is a twisted man who is anti God given liberty, who is subverting the constitution in many facets to gain more power for his radical amoral regime. Truth is Obama's enemy. As Jesus said know the truth and truth shall set you free. Obama's agenda is satanic, Jesus is light, Obama is opaque!

I would like to point out that just because some people have views that could be considered communist doesn't mean that person is a communist. Communism as a whole has failed, but some of its individual aspects are correct and should be done. Just because someone has certain viewpoints doesn't mean they deserve to get impeached.

Stop looking for ways to insult Obama and accept the fact that he is a good president.

Kudos to you Hal, well presented information and insight from someone without an axe to grind.

I believe the US has seen the error of it's ways in electing someone based purely on popularity and "making history".

The wrecking ball of this administration has awakened many of us that were sitting on the sidelines. And now that Mr obama has been given a chance to show his cards, a choice to clean house will start 11/2, the day before my birthday.

The November elections are our last chance to turn the tide of communism and socialism.

Hal, What an excellent hub. Very well done. No arguing with the facts. I don't know how I have missed you. You have made the case beyond a shadow of a doubt. I just wish I had found this before I wrote my last one. I will put a link to this on my hub. I look forward to reading more of your hubs.

interesting

the had that rocks the cradle, rules the world.

Can you do no better than call someone a commie? Communism was a failure. Even China is moving away from it, though it is still a dictatorship. Guilt by association. Maybe you should remember why the commies were able to take hold in the first place...UNBRIDLED GREED!

Capitalism is not the solution to everything. I've seen those polls your talking about. Most are written to induce a negative response. I have READ most of the so-called policies that people are calling communist. Obviously, YOU HAVE NOT READ THEM. Only someone else's writing. Instead of calling Obama a commie, why don't you try to find some real solutions.

By the way, the most destructive president was George W. Bush! Sat on his butt for 8 years. Instead of helping the country, he started a useless and unfounded war with Iraq. Instead of spending Billions helping our country, he spent billions on the death of others.

I suggest you read a book, "Tail Gunner Joe", about Joseph McCarthy. He used to go around accusing everyone who disagreed with him of being a communist. It wasn't until Edward R. Murrow couragously questioned McCarthy methods that the dreaded blacklist ended.

Finally, Karl Marx drew the wrong conclusions. That doesn't mean that he was wrong about the injustices and horrors that were occurring. Obama would meet with such people, not because he agreed with them, but because they had ideas. Almost any idea taken to extremes is dangerous, Liberal or Conservative.

Whatever it is that you're smoking - please send some of it to me. My hallucinations are anywhere close to yours! The Republicans lose the Congress and White House and in the process the first Black American is elected to the presidency. All that the Republicans and radical right wingnuts can do is ignore the fact that the majority of US voters chose Mr. Obama. During Dubya's entire reign, if anyone dared to say anything against him, his administration, or his highly flawed policies, lynch mobs were organized to track down and punish the offenders. This is America? Regarding Socialism - ever hear of SOCIAL SECURITY? They only thing your ludicrous rantings prove is just how far out of wack you and your "followers" have gotten.

Hal, I'm sorry, but I have to be honest; if it weren't for the fact that I know communism and Marxism will never work the way they were originally designed to, I'd be all for it.

Look at the original intent of Marxism, the very thoughts Karl Marx had in coming up with the Communist Manifesto. It was all Utopian dream-theories, which aren't bad. Anyone who can say Utopia would be a bad thing needs to open their eyes to what Utopia means, and the state of the world in which we live in now. I think I'd rather have world peace and a classless society than the shit we're stuck with now.

The problem with being Marxist or Communist now stems from two things: one, the given fact that those systems shall not, and never will, prevail in any society until society as a whole can get over their greed and need for things like trophies and medals and awards; and two, the other given fact that because of what happened in Russia and with the USSR and the Cold War, people will never be able to trust anything stamped with the word COMMUNISM in big, red letters.

In essence, people need to learn how to get over themselves before anything remotely close to communism will ever work the way it was originally intended to; and that intention, Hal my dear, was for Utopia for the proletariat.

*bows* See, 19 year olds CAN be smart sometimes! ^_^

Patrice is right. You're attacking the people instead of the points. It's impossible to argue with you without receiving some insulting comment. Very mature Hal. People would be wasting their time arguing with you not because they're right, but because you're too hard-headed and stubborn to see the truth. :)

I guess it depends on which side of the fence you're sitting on, because "individuals who make completely outrageous, outlandish, baseless, and wholly made up "factoids" in a pathetic attempt to support their misbegotton convictions" is EXACTLY how I would have described you. Thanks for putting it into words for me. I might have struggled with that. My IQ was only measured at l45. I'm sure yours is much higher since you love calling other people stupid. Thanks for the other suggestion that I might have been too stupid to think of. I believe I WILL stop reading your hubs, and instead search for some with real information and ideas on how to fix our countries problems.

I'm sorry, but this is still childish and rude behavior. You might want to check out some other hubs where people manage to disagree with each other while sticking to the issues, and not resorting to name calling.

By the way no one is l00% right (YES, INCLUDING YOU), neither are they l00% wrong, and it's very possible to have a real conversation, without the type of behavior you exhibit.

You know, I'm aware of the Republican and Democrat agendas. I am an independent. The behavior I'm worried about is the ONE that got us into this mess. That is catering to big money and big business and no regulations that allow banks to do ANYTHING they want whether it is morally or ethically correct. The abortion issue, which is clearly a Democratic issue, is one I disagree with. Yes, health care reform is clearly a Democratic issue, which I do agree with. If we don't stop big money from buying the government, however, something the Republicans, as a rule, have been so supportive of, we are never going to save our country. The hope with Obama was that he would stand up for the working class. I still hope he will, and yes there have been signs of this, as in the credit card holder's bill of rights and health care reform. So maybe I am speaking too soon and want too much too fast.

You do appear to be filled with a lot of anger and hatred. And, no, I don't know why. I suggest that you take a hard look at yourself and your motives before you embarrass YOURSELF any more with your rude and borish behavior. Obama took over a horrific mess in our country, has been in office less than a year, and yet you state he's the worse president ever. I'm surprised that you think he is a "nice guy", as I suppose, according to you, that would make you a Communist sympathizer.

Once again, I'm sorry that all this seems to be upsetting you so much up there in Canada.

I'm not blind at all, but perhaps you are blinded by your hatred. Of course, his background is going to give him an interest in many different countries and their governments. This would not be surprising at all. However, his interest in becoming educated in all forms of government, would not make him a communist, socialist, marxist, OR capitalist.

In fact, I voted for Obama, and as I have stated in previous comments, my disappointment in him so far is that he acting more like a Republican than a Democrat in many ways, as in not tackling big money and its control of our government. Capitalism is a GOOD THING. However, as before the depression, greed has taken over once again and run things completely into the ground. After the depression there were a lot of needed regulations put into effect. Then, mostly conserative administrations in the last few decades have spent a lot of time deregulating. Unfortunately, because big business cannot control themselves and their greed, once again it appears that we do need more regulations put back into effect.

I'm so sorry that up there in Canada this seems to be upsetting you so much.

You and I are on the same page. Keep Hubbing!

This hub should have been entitled "Guilt By Association". That would certainly seem more appropriate, as you didn't state anything Obama did, but rather all the things that some of the people he knew, might have called friends, or was related to did. Hmmm, his parents met in a Russian language class. Very fishy, I do admit. This would certainly make the unconceived Obama GUILTY! And we won't even go into why his GRANDPARENTS moved...as that could be really telling of Obama's character and hidden agenda!

2012 can't get here fast enough! You have it right Obama is a Marxist and a socialist!

Bravo, Hal! Very well researched. One of your previous critics ( Whitstable Views ) admonishes us that Mr. Obama was democratically elected and, therefore, has the authority and right to set forth his agenda. Using that logic alone, one can note that Adolf Hitler ( a National Socialist ) was the victor of a democratic election in Germany in 1933 and, consequently, had the authority and prerogative of putting forth his policies.

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/829543 Vol. 2 The Theory of Obamativity

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/815588 Vol. 1 The Common Man Opinion

In my two volume set, with six more volumes on the way, I outline the Theory of Obamativity. While the U.S. is looking at individual trees like Cap and tax and Health Care Tax, they are missing the forest standing there. Obama, and his radicals surrounding him, have 12 points of seizure. Through out history, other countries governments followed these same 12 points of seizure to wipe out personal freedoms and liberties thus bringing CHANGE to the social and political operations of said country. Read it and you will have to agree with what is happening.

hal,

communism was meant for the good of all- it was to keep the rich from being too rich and the poor from being poor. its purpose was to create a society where people live together in unity and equality. communism's name was slathered in dirt when leaders used it as an excuse to establish their empires. Maybe if you read some of marx's works you would understand. Americans are practically bred to shy away from the word communism and socialism, when they haven't even grasped the basic concepts of it. obama's bills are focused on helping the working class and the poor. you say he is a socialist, but can't people like you try to be a little more open-minded to these ideals? he isn't trying to rule the world (pfffft*). He's just trying to make it a better place for the peope who need help to live.

Oh, my gawd, Hal Licino. You're in dire need of waking up before its too late. Marxist and communists oh fer cryin' out loud.......

Just the difference between reality and victim consciousness.

Namaste

Yes Nasa has used a lot of resources most of which you have no idea about. The black ops continue whilst you continue a very old illusionary argument. Men have died already exposing the 130 underground areas. The guy who invented the machine which liquifies rock and glasses it over as it ploughs through the earth was one of them. Before it died from a mysterious suicide that nobody believes he had already left lectures on what is happening at these survival bases. You disgrace his name and his sacrifice and the sacrifice of many more who have died in order to expose these truths by your denial when you have carried out no verifying research.

Carry on regardless and never complain when Planet Nibiru gets closer, it will not hit Planet earth but it will cause havoc with its interaction on an energetic level with the sun - this is why Nasa has used much larger sums of money than are listed in their public accounts. They have a very powerful telescope in the Antartic watching Nibiru very closely as it has an unstable 3,600 eliptic orbit. All of this science is available but as usual a lot of people prefer to be victims and are still very much asleep.

The underground complexes are nothing to do with area 51 etc. These are survival areas for the elite and the chosen people of child bearing age who will restock the population after the devastation of Planet Nibiru during the next 5 years. It is already visible in the sky, coming up under the sun in the southern hemisphere.

Will you awaken or stay asleep in your political arguments.

Namaste

The article about the Marxist Communist administration we have getting stronger every day is relevant. However, the areas that have not yet been attacked have been religion and gun ownership . I would think they would be areas where these people who are determined to destroy our way of life would be moving faster at eliminating. Please explain why they are afraid to approach this. They have done everything else to move their program along swiftly. There is no way either Marxists or Communistsd can tolerate religion and it matters not which brand of religion we are speaking of so diversity in religious choice has no place in their modus of operandi. They are the Proletariat, government is their God. They have taken over our car companies, banks, and the public schools and colleges have been corrupted by their ideology for years. Why don't the churches scare them?

Just reading through most of the comments and the hub I am amazed that none of you realise that Obama is the puppet president for others who really reign over the country.

The US, UK, Australia etc are all corporate companies and have been since before the last war. All of them were bankrupt and are run as corporate companies. This truth has been out for the last few years and people have woken upto the fact that the illusion covers all of the government power and beyond.

All of you are just rallying around the arguments that keep you from waking up to the real truth. It does not matter who is in government - its all a game - the real power house comes from the old banking families who formed the illuminati a long time ago.

If you want to wake up and take back your sovereignty as equal human beings then you will need to stop the arguments about maxism or capitalism and start researching some of the true facts. All of the information you need is available if you put in some effort and come out of the anaethatised state. The only reason we still live in a completely unequal world is because of people still stuck in this illusion. You are the sheep, it doesn't matter whether you are maxist sheep, capitalist sheep or communist sheep. Sheep are sheep following the game.

There is a renaissance going on which will create the new world where everyone is free. The most dangerous thing going on right now is by those who think they are free when they are not - they are in the game.

We are moving towards the most chaotic period of life on this planet and you dont even know it is happening! Check out all the underground areas, well over 130, which are ready for the events that Nasa are hiding from you.

But never mind, you guys just keep on debating the players in their game, good luck............

Namaste

Hey Hal, Good job! I'm sorry I missed all the action. Thanks for speaking out you have my respect for being so even-handed. Thanks we need more friends like you.

How come so many people think being president is like being king? Obama only does what he is told ... he is the "tool" of bankers - watch the "Obama Deception". He is as much a communist as I am a frog. I wish he was! No deal though, he is a puppet like the rest of the presidents.

Hal,

You've earned my respect here for a number of reasons

1. You dared write a challenging article about Obama - the same type of article about Bush would be applauded (even though I thought Bush's presidency was extremely flawed - He started these crazy handouts)

2. You answer some of the most ridiculous comments with an even temper and with great knowledge on the subject you are talking

3. You admit, as I do that you think Obama is a very nice person "on a personal level" but a horrible president (as I think he is)

I would like to comment on some of the more outlandish responses listed above.

WhitstableViews said "Cheap trick Hal, but now go back to my previous point. Is he or is he not democratically elected? (Unlike the previous incumbant, you might say.) "

My RESPONSE: - Even if you think that there was tampering during either of the Bush elections, there is absolutely no proof whatsoever. On the other hand, it is a proven fact that there was indeed bullying during both the primary process against Clinton, and the presidential election process by members of ACORN (a very strong Obama leaning organization)

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkUKOSnv2zY

In response to Obama's Marxist views Mercyalone said - "Hal,the man was investigated up the yee-yang during the election process,don't you think this would have come out?"

My RESPONSE: WHERE AND WHEN WAS HE INVESTIGATED???? Certainly not by the media who to this day is bowing down to him and worshipping him and reporting nothing that is negative(with the exception of  FOX news and CNBC)

He also was NEVER and will NEVER be investigated by Congress who is totally in bed with him and his views.

My opinion is there are no more checks and balances in government, because of the government and the media.

If you'd like to see where we are headed with a government that continuously spends in the middle of a recession watch the following video from Great Britain:

A MUST SEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs

..big smile...:-) amen to that Hal!!!

Personally?...I am a "survivalist." Regardless of political movement or regime change, I am responsible to me and mine for our survival. Selfish? You bet! You and I only get one chance at life. My attitude is: adapt and stick around for as long as my genetic programming will allow. Those of us who understand this, may add a few more years of precious life to our ephemeral existence. Socialism? Communism? Theocracy? I cant waste valuable time and emotion worrying about that which I have no control over. The "intelligent" attitude is to accept and adapt. You are the "Captain of your ship." You are responsible for your life. No one else gives a damn! Eternity is a very long time.

I have never supported anything other than America and American ideals. I'm not very bright but it seems if you put the money in the pockets of the largest consuming group in America only good things can happen. I'm the last person who wants the government to interfere with our economy. Free enterprise will take care of itself without any help either way from government.

This is where points diverge, its not communism to protect American jobs. Making our trading partners play on a level playing field is not communism. Moral behavior isn't a sign communism is about to explode all over America either. I had once heard that a CEO shouldn't make more than 25 times his lowest employee. That doesn't mean he or she has a limit on earnings, it does mean they should share the wealth with the people who give them their lives to help make them successful. Sure its their risk and profit is their reward but I think theres a moral high ground some where here that doesn't warrant being called communism or socialism.

I've seen too many wealthy owners with numerous homes, fancy cars, and outrageous vacations with employees who live hand to mouth. These employees are for the most part one check from living under a bridge. Its inspiring to see those rare occaisions when a wealthy buisnessman shares some of his gold with the people who gave their loyalty so they could succeed. Most of the workerbees only dream of a windfall to clear up debt or afford a surgery.

Nothing I've said promotes everybody gets the same, it does promote moral behavior over greed. Nothing I've said calls for government interferance. As this last election is proof positive if you take advantage of the ones with the least you can't expect them to say thank you give me more of the same please..

I think this is a great forum for thought. Keep writing its great to hear everyones thoughts. Peace.

LOZL!

I think that there should be a clarification of terms. Capitalism is an economic system in which trade and industry are privately controlled for profit rather than by the state. Democracy is a political system. Claiming that capitalism has killed anyone is a non sequitur. The Chinese are a Marxist nation yet they allow some practices of capitalism in their economy. And some European countries are Socialist Democracies.

Marxism is the political philosophy and practice derived from the works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Socialism is, according to Marx, the stage between capitalism and communism during which the classes will disappear.

It should be understood that Karl Marx was reacting more against the disparity in the class system more than he was against a healthy capitalism. He thought he had a better way, but as history has shown, he didn't.

Individuals who argue for a socialist economy will not find any historic evidence to support their cause. The only defense they have is willful ignorance or a naïve notion that Obama will get it right this time because he is Obama. Our ignorance is killing the greatest social experiment in the history of the world: The United States of America.

I would add that public education in the hands of progressives has wrought its ugly work and delivered us a nation of ignorance.

If financiers didn't routinely screw up though infantile greed and stupidity governments wouldn't be obliged to step in and wipe their bottoms.

Live in peace and create do your bit to live in a better world. Fear is not the way to go.

Proverbs 9

Invitations of Wisdom and of Folly

 1 Wisdom has built her house;        she has hewn out its seven pillars.

 2 She has prepared her meat and mixed her wine;        she has also set her table.

 3 She has sent out her maids, and she calls        from the highest point of the city.

 4 "Let all who are simple come in here!"        she says to those who lack judgment.

 5 "Come, eat my food        and drink the wine I have mixed.

 6 Leave your simple ways and you will live;        walk in the way of understanding.

 7 "Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult;        whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse.

 8 Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you;        rebuke a wise man and he will love you.

 9 Instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still;        teach a righteous man and he will add to his learning.

 10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom,        and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

 11 For through me your days will be many,        and years will be added to your life.

 12 If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you;        if you are a mocker, you alone will suffer."

 13 The woman Folly is loud;        she is undisciplined and without knowledge.

 14 She sits at the door of her house,        on a seat at the highest point of the city,

 15 calling out to those who pass by,        who go straight on their way.

 16 "Let all who are simple come in here!"        she says to those who lack judgment.

 17 "Stolen water is sweet;        food eaten in secret is delicious!"

 18 But little do they know that the dead are there,        that her guests are in the depths of the grave.

Very interesting information. If it is true it is worrysome. Once we are no longer a "free country" only a civil war will get our individule rights of ownership back. I hate to see that happen. But I have a feeling it will, either in mine, or my children's life time.

Hal good information, however; you're alittle late. Back when we were deregulating, outsourcing and exercising our rights to make money at any cost. Not investing in the future of the largest portion of our sociaty, the middle class, but trying accumulate all the toys we would need to make us happy. Oh its our right, but for sound growth you have to build a sound foundation. Henry Ford saw how its supposed to work. You make sure the little guys are making a living wage so they can buy the goods and services that keep U.S. moving, and growing.

We lost the middle class due to arrogance. They should be happy they have a job! Here's a good one, Theres alot of people out there that would be happy to have that job! Here you go, we take all the risk and the profit is our reward! I think a couple more carrats would have done trick and the worker bees would have been salivating. They live secure lives and they're in our pocket..

We had all the power! All we had to do was put alittle more in the kitty and we and the party would have owned the middle class vote. I guess exercising your rights was more important than the lives of those who believe in you as the leader. The one point that is allways overlooked is the life, the time here on earth sold for some small piece of security. So we, earned the right, to use them to aquire the things we needed and deserved. Hows that working for us?

Lets take a look at our southern neighbor. Hmm, hugh gaps in the standard of living works so well! You have to give back!. As a person you should offer a hand up not out. We have to help all Americans get the piece of the pie they've earned. Large gaps in standard of living doesn't have a good track record on this planet in general.

So, now we have a situation where left wing ideas sound better right wing ideas. We have a more liberal party in power. We also only have ourselves to blame. We didn't get it right. They wanted it worse. We knew this is what could happen, but we were blinded by our desire to horde. The best idea now is to learn how to work together and help the left understand how much some issues mean and hope that gets some traction.

Communist or not we made our bed now we need to have enough courage to lay in it. Our problems are our problems not the liberals. We lost! We screwed up! Hal lets take the hit and show what kind of stuff we're made of! Lets don't make the same mistake over and over again. When you have to tear someone down to make you look good you're a loser.

Good lord, #16? If I speak an eulogy for a homosexual...That's proof I'm a homosexual? What kind of logic is that dude? Is it logic?!

When your first point is an out of context clip...

Thanks Hal! Dont listen to TurnipTornado. She dont know what shes talkin about

stop playing their game...you're not going to change anyone's mind anyway.

And I see it VERY clearly :)

Hal...

What a great hub. You hit all the correct points right on the head. Can you believe people just looked over all these facts and STILL voted for him? Obama-voters really need to have their heads examined after that call. You have taught me many things about how close Obama is to socialism.

During the election, I bought a yard sign that had the communist symbol with NoBama on it. I laughed every time I saw that thing in our yard.

Thanks for all the awesome accurate info! Please keep writing hubs like this so people will see the REAL obama.

--John

I don't see what the actions of those around Obama have anything to do with him. You make reference to his parents, grandparents, brother, etc.... What does that have to do with him?

If your brother, sister, uncle, cousin, etc..., commits a crime, does that make YOU a criminal? Just the same, if your brother, sister, uncle, cousin, etc... decide to convert to Islam, does that make YOU Islamic as well?

The reasoning here seems to be flawed and I don't think the actions of those people prove anything with respect to Obama. It certainly wouldn't hold up in a court of law here in America. I'm not familiar with your Canadian courts, so maybe it would hold up there.

Lots of arguments are being raised through all sorts of media, yet I have yet to see one piece of concrete evidence. All I see are a bunch of theories and analogies.

I agree with Whitstable.

Also, I think this kind of exteme talk whips up all the worst elements of American society. We've had two murders in as many weeks by zealots of the extreme right.

Hal, don't you live in Canada?

The thing with two party politics is that sometimes people get elected for not being the other guy as much as for what they actualy stand for. I think a lot of people may be surprised by what they have actually voted for as time passes.

Also, its funny that Europe and America seem to be moving in oposite directions towards the same place. Europe is usually more socialist than the US and European socialists expected that the economic crises and the perceived success (or at least necessity) of traditionally socialist methods such as nationalisation would work in their favour, but in recent elections for the European parliament there were massive losses for 'center left' socialist parties and a huge shift to the right, whilst America seems to have taken a similar sized jump in the opposite direction. Even still, the two seemed to have landed in almost the same place. Funny how the world works.

Hal,the man was investigated up the yee-yang during the election process,don't you think this would have come out? Everything possible was thrown at him AND HE CAME OUT SMELLING LIKE A ROSE. He won,let it go dude.

Thank you.

Even if you are right ,who do you suppose should be president ?

Would we be better off having another civil war?

"Capitalism? - maybe a few 100."

We wish.

I appreciate your long and well thought-out post, Hal. I don't consider myself Marxist (although hilariously enough I have been called a Marxist on this board in my five short days of being here) but I don't think the theory or philosophy behind Marxism is bad or destructive by itself. But predictions and reality never do match up.

"Surely capitalism has left just as many dead as communism".

100 million dead on the communism side in the 20th century alone.

Capitalism? - maybe a few 100.

You know, Hal, on several points I definitely agree with, particularly with protecting our constitution. But I feel that I'm generally aware of the politics around me and I feel as though the constitution is finally (albeit slowly) recovering from the thrashing it received from the last administration.

What bothers me with your argumentation is this bit in particular: "I maintain you cannot possibly hold your opinion on Marxism without betraying a fundamental ignorance of the subject." That sentence precludes any argument that supports any Marxist view. But other then your own anecdotal evidence you haven't given us any reason to believe that Marxism is INHERANTLY bad. Surely capitalism has left just as many dead as communism, it's foolish to blame ideals when it's people making decisions.