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Ukraine is not teetering and it is not civil unrest it is a civil war.

Updated on April 19, 2014

We know our capacity for slaughter and hate and genocide.

Not the trail of tears but the tale of tears
Not the trail of tears but the tale of tears | Source

Ukraine will suffer a horrible civil war and they already are suffering.

Russia was not more successful in Afghanistan as the US was in Vietnam. For the same reason. The people were not behind either. Maters of war were. Bot had ethnic, moral, economic and political reasons and both failed for those reasons.

However if the US allows the Russians to "support" the ethnic Russian of the country they will slaughter and commit mayhem and then enslave the Ukrainians of that ethnicity.

Here is the Headling with proper attribution:

UN Security Council meets as Ukraine 'teeters on the brink'

CNN - ‎34 minutes ago‎ Donetsk, Ukraine (CNN) -- Strong condemnations and accusations were traded Sunday night as the U.N. Security Council held an urgent, previously unscheduled meeting to discuss the worsening crisis in Ukraine. (googe news)

"bad things happen when good men do nothing --- horrible things happen when good nations do nothing." (ed 2014)

Urgency indicates lack of action. Just think about it if you are doing something about something it is not longer urgent, it is being done.

Ethnic Genocide may now be worse than this great song.

This situation is going to remind us of ethnic cleansing.

I will toot my horn here on a hub I wrote during what they called the riots:

It could have stayed a rebellion but Obama and the EU let Russia come make it a dooms day for Ukrainians of Ukrainian culture. Here the problem.

Gas is the problem. Yes once again gas -- power from gas -- different from oil but just as important to the EU. Sound like the middle east?

Russia will run into protect their gas lines -- EU will rush into protect theirs and Ukrainian people will freeze next winter and lose massive amounts of need cash flow which will weaken them further. Making it more likely for uprisings and more justification for the Russians to let the ethnic Russian brutalize the Ukrainian it is a sad state of affairs.

Here is part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Preamble

Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

This real.

It is tough to take.

War is hell on earth.

Allowing ethnic cleansing is like the eternal type of hell. This is going to happen if we do not do something. As I said before: Bad things happen when good men do nothing, and horrible things happen when good nations do nothing.

I am deeply sorry and troubled that the natural gas line is preventing the saving of lives and the preservation of freedom. There is a notion of "blood" money. And now there is the notion of bloody energy money.

We must move quickly and resolutely. A single Russian Soldier in Ukraine is one to many. Crimea is was a hostile invasion and occupation. It is wrong.

Is it worth to let this escalate?

Do you care at all about the issues here?

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I guess there are adults that act the same.
I guess there are adults that act the same. | Source

NATO has the capacity.

NATO was and is designed to protect and defend against the aggression of just this sort of kind.

-- It confirms the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's core task of defending its territory and its commitment to collective defense of its members. It also commits the alliance to developing new defenses against threats such as cyber and missile attack.

-- It recommits the alliance to crisis-prevention and crisis management operations and to working more closely with international partners including the United Nations and the European Union.

-- It commits NATO to working toward a world without nuclear weapons, but says that while such weapons exist NATO will remain a nuclear-armed alliance. ((Reuters)

We note it was horrible influence by a Russsian puppet president in Ukraine that kept them out of the EU and NATO. Whille Crimea is lost there is not reason for Ukraine to now become full members fo both those organization and it can be done yesterday.

War of Aggression

When all is said and done it is quite apparent that Russia was the one to block Ukraine EU and NATO alliance for Ukraine. They did this by influencing the Leader with money to help the country which clearly never reached the people. This of course caused the unrest (riots) which of course gave excuse for a Russian invasion.

In all fairness the US still does this kind of thing. I really do not think we had nothing to do with the Arab Spring or the Polish resistance. Venezuela looks the same to a degree. Definitely part of the game plan with Iraq.

They need a blank slate to establish Ukraine

No one already drawn up outlined by Russia
No one already drawn up outlined by Russia | Source


Nobody likes war who is not psychotic. No one like the suppression of human rights. Nobody likes people being killed -- again unless they are psychotic.

So power is or can literally be defined as the taken of freedom away from another. Freedom is a sought after state of being. Power people take away freedoms. Some times we let them. And we should not. So sometimes power has to fight power. We Americans must accept that we are powerful, that we can take away freedoms. And we must stay ever vigilante to use our power to protect freedom from other powers.

That Flag still stands for freedom. And it stands throughout the world for freedom. So those who want power will always attack that flag and what it stands for.

We must use our power to stop the war in Ukraine.

If we say it is not our war then we deny our humanity. If we say it costs to much then we are stingy and greedy. If we fail to ask "if it were my brother?", then we are lost at sea.


Some compromise has been reached but Russia's Putin is balking and apparently not removing any armed forces. And the UN still has not sent in peace keepers. The full extent of historic ethnic divisions and hatred is still not clear. But the Eastern Ukrainians of any minority are still at risk. We need to stay mindful not of the politics but of the "skirmishes" that tend to leave mass graves.

Any ethnicity or cultural subgroup should immediately have UN monitors in place to report and keep the world apprised of situations.


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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Clearly a great deal has to do with the natural gas which is huge to Europe. The physical move by Russia was predictable I agree. And I think your assessment is correct. But we should not ignore that a minority was leading a majority and clearly there were abuses of that power. These young rebels who died did not die for the US or for Gas. These were not and are not religious type fanatics. They were and are fighting for their rights. When that happens, the USA right or wrong usually (say since the Shaw) stands for those fighting for their rights. Fortunate enough for us we have not seen it so much anymore done by allies.

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      MG Singh 3 years ago from Singapore

      Eric, the problem commenced when the dead powers UK and France supported by USA started the agitation to topple the pro Russia regime. The Russian action was a reaction. It will be folly for NATO to intervene for a bankrupt Ukraine. It will hasten the slide of the west from great power status. In any case UK and France are finished and riding piggy back on US. Obama needs to be careful and not led by war mongers

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      We are doing well with it. I think the sense of urgency is being felt. I am quite confident we already have "special forces" in place. That is not so important for force, but now "they" know we know and that is key -- few disgusting things happen with full light shed upon it. Thanks Theresa

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      Theresa Ast 3 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Eric - This is a serious and potentially tragic situation. Thanks for the informative Hub. Theresa

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lady, I will figure out why the press is so slow on this one. They are running 48 hours behind the curve.

      I suppose it is the Govs putting pressure on the editors. We worry.

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      Mona Sabalones Gonzalez 3 years ago from Philippines

      This explains why Russia is interested in the Ukraine. If I recall properly, I think there was a time when Russia was still the USSR and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they starved the people in Ukraine or somewhere else, and no one wrote about it because there was no free press, and it was discovered a long time later. Evil things can be done when there's a veil of secrecy.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dora just today big headlines are writing what I wrote on this hub. It is so sad that our world is so cautious that it ignores obvious problems.

      Let you and I never stop caring.

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      Dora Weithers 3 years ago from The Caribbean

      Eric, thank you for airing your political views on these matter of war. You give us matters of concern to focus on. You manage to make us sensitive and caring no matter the topic.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Crafty --- and I am getting paid for it though I never network. LIfe is crazy

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I think Cicero "Excess in the face of justice is never wrong, Modetation in the face of injustice is neve a virture"

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      CraftytotheCore 3 years ago

      Well done Eric, and congratulations on your 500th Hub! What a milestone!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      The oppression of rights is never all right. You can put a different name on it and it is still wrong. Well said, Eric.