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VA Bonuses to continue

Updated on July 30, 2014
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VA Administrators still get bonus bucks.

I just read where the House-Senate committee announced on Monday that VA administrators will continue to receive their bonus pay in a compromise bill. They did however cap the bonus pay at 360 Million per year for the next 10 years.. Prior to the VA scandal it was capped at 400 Million per year. Now that adds up to 3.6 Billion over the next 10 years to the same administrators and employees who falsified records in order to keep getting their annual bonus pay.

A few weeks ago, the House voted unanimously 420-0 at the first vote, and 426-0 the second vote to strip all bonuses from VA officials and use that 400 Million toward better healthcare for out veterans.

Also included in the compromise bill was language stating that senior officials can be fired or demoted, but they have 7 days to appeal the ruling.

Most of us are aware it is nearly impossible to fire or demote a federal employee and will most likely never happen. The original proposal was that the VA Secretary had the right to fire VA employees with no right of appeal.

So now I ask?

How the heck did we get from a unanimous vote to stop all bonuses and have the right to fire any VA employees who were not doing their job to this outcome?

Did anyone out there hear anything from their elected representatives that they were outraged over the agreement to continue paying bonuses in spite of the unanimous vote? I sure didn't nor did I see anything on the news regarding this matter.

So veterans all over the country died while waiting for medical care. The bonus money was paid out for outstanding performance based on completely falsified records at most if not all of the VA facilities. It seems to me that there ought to be some people wearing prison orange jump suits rather than out spending huge bonus checks.

I smell a rat:

I seriously doubt that the employees at all of these different VA facilities all dreamed up the exact same plan to make their performance records appear much better than they were in reality. They got their orders from someone higher up and followed them to the letter because of the promised bonus money.

I also suspect that this sudden decision to continue paying bonus money has something to do with silencing more whistle blowers. Had they gone on a firing campaign due to the falsified records many of those who were fired would have talked.

Now, they not only get to keep their jobs they also get to enjoy the same or more bonus bucks than they previously received.

The 360 Million per year we will pay out in unearned bonuses would sure help provide better care for our much deserving veterans. The 3.6 Billion, that is Billion with a "B" we will pay out over the next 10 years could build some state of the art facilities or go toward paying for outside treatment for veterans.


Perhaps someone can explain to me who made this decision and why it was decided to continue with the bonuses rather than firing and prison for some of the administrators.

I guess this is just our government at work with business as usual.

Will we ever know the names of the people that made this decision? That is very doubtful.

Thanks for taking the time to read this rant and I hope you are as angry about this as I am.

UPDATE 7/30/14

I just saw on the news that Congress approved a 17 Billion dollar bill to improve the VA healthcare. I see now how the bonus package slipped through the unanimous house vote of 426-0 to end the bonuses.

They are all packed and ready to go home for a 5 week vacation. They wanted to get this one off their plate before they left, so they voted today. It is called a "Compromise Bill" and that tells me it went like this.

The house was willing to appropriate money but the senate would only go along if the bonus program was included. So the compromise was to get the bill passed the house members had to agree to the bonus deal.

No politician in his or her right mind would want to go down in history as opposing more money for the VA after the recent scandal and needless deaths. So most likely very little time was spent on discussion and they all walk away patting their own backs and bragging about what they accomplished. I'm very happy the VA is getting more money but not happy with the way it was done.

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    • billybuc profile image

      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I have no words. I suspect that it was kept very quiet in hopes that it would blow over without too much stink...but then again my friend, the American public is so complacent, I really wonder if any stink would have been made. Tell me again why we don't run these idiots out of town tarred and feathered????

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Bill, this is just more proof that they all have to go. They have obviously outlived their usefullness or have forgotten why we put them there in the first place.

      I guess this is just one more example of "The most transparent administration in the history of this country?"

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      Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

      Stuff like this makes me want to go out and buy a pitchfork, tar and feathers! Do they sell these things at walmart?

      Billy..I just read you're comment..we are siblings for sure!

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Brie - I suspect they do sell that stuff at Walmart but it is imported from China and you know that makes the libs angry. So for gosh sakes don't let anyone know where you bought it at the tar and feather party.

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      Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

      All joking aside, it's a sad affair..watching your country fail like it is.

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Revise that to say "it's a sad affair..watching your country being destroyed like this."

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      Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan


    • FitnezzJim profile image

      FitnezzJim 2 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

      We voted them in.


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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Hopefully we learned something.

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      The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX

      No government employee deserves to get anything above what we already over pay them to do. If they want bonuses for productivity then go into the private sector. They are already overpaid as it is.

      The Frog Prince

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Jim, to give a bonus check to the very people who caused the needless death of so many veterans just turns my stomach.

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      breakfastpop 2 years ago

      Let's face it, we live in lawless society. We have a president who makes his own laws and then changes them at will. We have a Congress that ptopses and passes legislation and is ignored by this administration. We have a Senate that is dominated by mentally ill people( there is no other explanation) and we have agencies of the government that have been empowered by a rogue president. The VA is just such an agency and so the bonuses will continue. The same is true of the IRS and the EPA. They are now Obama's armies. I am outraged. Voted up, useful(throw the bums out) interesting (if you care about the Vets) and awesome because you care.

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Patti - Yes, I really care about this. I don't understand why this is not all over the news, especially FOX. But I haven't seen it even mentioned on any of the news I have seen.

      This is really an outrage to reward the least deserving people on our planet with more bonus money.

      If you haven't guessed it by now, I am really angry about this issue.

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      WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      The VA today is the single payer, government-run health care system that Obamacare will someday become. I think that more politicians than we know want that to happen, so they say nothing.

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Your absolutely correct Bill, not a single politician in office today other than Obama himself will want their names tied to this monster. But in truth, all of them are tied to this monster and I hope they pay the ultimate price in the upcoming elections.

      It is beyond time for all of them to go home and retire.

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      Mel Carriere 2 years ago from San Diego California

      I think this is an outrage. Our government has a serious budget deficit and I think it is inexcusable that these people who so severely neglected our wounded young men and women should receive bonuses. Postal management gave up their performance bonuses when the recession began, and I think it is only appropriate that the government should do it across the board for the benefit of the American Public. Great hub and well stated!

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Mel - I really appreciate your comment. As you can see by the very small comment section, it appears that only a very few are even upset about this. I am absolutely furious and even took the time to write my Congressman but have had no response.

      My real heartburn comes with the 426 to 0 NO vote in the house, but the Compromise Bill approved the bonus plan with only a 10% cut for the next 10 years.

      I suspect the timing was perfect as everyone was packed and ready to go home for their 5 week vacation, so they would agree to anything to get out of Washington.

      But what the heck, it is only 3.6 Billion tax dollars that will be paid as bonus money to the most undeserving people. So why should anyone be upset?

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      amazmerizing 2 years ago from PACIFIC NORTHWEST, USA

      I do honestly believe our government is on a hurtling track racing downhill on a bullet train with no brakes and no one at the helm... the workers look to each other to see what to do... monkey see monkey does!!! and the passengers are like the rest of the country, along for the ride... staight to the bottom of the hill... and FAST!!!

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      Mike 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

      Thanks for stopping by and a pleasure to meet you. Your right, it is way out of control and I doubt we can stop the train before we derail and crash.

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      yecall 14 months ago from California

      The absolutely disgraceful treatment of the veterans in this country must stop. My father was treated at a VA Hospital before he passed and they did a nice job but getting in there was a long list for waiting.

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      Mike 14 months ago from Rural Arizona

      yecall - The only way we could improve the service at the VA would be to require all government employees including the President and Congress to use the VA for their personal health care.

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