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What About Yale?

Updated on June 24, 2020
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Jack is a volunteer at the CCNY Archives. Before retiring, he worked at IBM for over 28 years. His articles have over 120,000 views.

Introduction

The famous quote - All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to stay silent. Such wisdom...

We have a mob mentality that wants to tear down anything even remotely related to slavery. A few years ago, it was a statue of Robert E. Lee, a southern general in the Confederate Army. Now, they are after President Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt. Who is next?

- June 2020

Background

A few years ago, when the Charlottesville, VA incident happened, I wrote an article commenting on the whole statue debate. It is linked below and you can read my take on that issue. Now, in 2020, it has resurfaced with a vengeance.

As a society, if we are so quick to erase our history, where does it end? It was George Orwell in his book 1984 that foresee a future where he writes...

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

What About Yale University?

Where does the name Yale come from you ask?

From their website, here is the about information on Yale University.

"Since its founding in 1701, Yale has been dedicated to expanding and sharing knowledge, inspiring innovation, and preserving cultural and scientific information for future generations.

Yale’s reach is both local and international. It partners with its hometown of New Haven, Connecticut to strengthen the city’s community and economy. And it engages with people and institutions across the globe in the quest to promote cultural understanding, improve the human condition, delve more deeply into the secrets of the universe, and train the next generation of world leaders."

Sounds great doesn't it.

Yet, it failed to mention it was started as a seminary school to train clergymen. In today's secular society with separation of Church and State, that would be considered heresy.

The name Yale was named after, Elihu Yale.

In 1718, at the behest of either Rector

A slave trader working for the East India Company was the founder of Yale College. Should we rename it to something else?

Some famous graduates of Yale includes Bill and Hillary Clinton and Al Gore.

Please weigh in on the renaming of "Yale..."

Summary

This simple example points out the fallacy of this line if thinking. Why do we need to remove these statues? Who is behind this movement? and Why?

What is BLM group? Who are the three founders of this loosely associated group?

What is their goal?

BLM Founder in Her Own Words

This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional.

© 2020 Jack Lee

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    • Ericdierker profile image

      Eric Dierker 

      13 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Today I heard BLM NY president declare to get rid of statutes of Jesus. Now just try and, with a straight face justify that. The picture in my living room has him as quite brown.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      13 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Mike, I read your article and posted a comment.

      Here is my article on the topic of removing statues - written a few hears ago.

      https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/When-Will-T...

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      Mike Russo 

      13 months ago from Placentia California

      Jack: Here is my article on all of this.

      https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/The-Use-of-...

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      Mike Russo 

      13 months ago from Placentia California

      Jack: I'm not living in the 1950's. There are racists in this country who are still living in the 1950's . When LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, there were many southern democrats in congress. They were called the Dixiecrats. As soon as LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, they jumped ship and became the Southern Republicans. They were as racists as the day is long. What you have in the Republican congress today are the legacy of those Dixiecrats. They were called the Tea Party and are now the Freedom Caucus.

      Yes, we have hate crime laws. That's why cops use the use of force escalation on black people who don't comply with their commands, until they become lethal and they kill them. Then they have The Fraternity of Police and The Police Unions which are very powerful national organizations to keep officers who have violated the law from going to jail. They get put on administrative leave instead, whatever that is.

      Your questions are not simple to answer. I said it requires a consensus of the people. You have a racists president who is not going to do anything about the undercurrent of racism in this country Until we can have a leader who can say enough is enough, nothing will be done. Until then, there will be no answer.

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      Jack Lee 

      13 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Mike, this is the problem I have with your comment and others that I came across speaking to some people. You talk like we are still living in the 1950s. Why is that? You give no credit to the positive changes that took place including the civil rights movement of the 1960s... Many of the problems have been addressed and dealt with.

      Systemic racism has been addressed and people have recourse with laws that cover discrimination of hiring and housing...and we have hate crime laws.

      You never answered my simple questions.

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      Mike Russo 

      13 months ago from Placentia California

      Jack: How do you know, no one was offended by those statues? Fullerton California is the home of Cal State Fullerton. It's next to the town where I live. There is an auditorium called Plummer Hall. It turns out that Plummer was named after a high ranking member of the Klu Klux Klan. They are now changing the name of the hall. It didn't offend anybody, because they didn't know about Plummer, now they now and it offends them.

      History is generally written by the victors. The south lost the civil war which was fought over slavery. However until this day, there are people who have never accepted that the north won the war. That's why the confederate flag still flies and those monuments are still there.

      The ones who are offended are those who can't accept that the north and abolition won the war. Many of them have been taught to be prejudice and racists by their ancestors and they are still bitter about blacks.

      I spent 16 months in the Air Force in Biloxi Mississippi in the early 50's where there was strict segregation between blacks and whites. It included separate bathrooms, schools, drinking fountains, transportation and places to eat. Even the news specified who was black in any issue.

      We all know slavery was done for economic reasons. However, since the civil war, there has been an undercurrent of racism that still exists and it is now raising it's ugly head because of the Black Lives Matter movement. All they are really saying is they want to be treated with equal rights the same as white people. I believe if white people were in the same circumstances with those cops, they would still be alive.

      To answer your questions, It's not a matter of how far back we should go or who gets to decide. It's a matter of consensus by the country. I imagine that is what happened in Germany, Italy, and Germany, people have said we have had enough.

      There was a saying when I lived in the deep south: "Save your Dixie cups, the south shall rise again." Dixie cups was a brand of paper cups.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      13 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Mike, those statues has been in place for a long long time and the same goes with Yale College.

      No one was offended by them so why now?

      My questions are simple, if you agree with this course of action.

      1. How far back should we go?

      2. Who gets to decide?

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      Mike Russo 

      13 months ago from Placentia California

      There is a reason that Germany doesn't have any statues of Hitler or symbolism of NAZI Germany. Should we make statues of the KLU KLUX KLAN grand wizards? That is what the confederate flag is about. The word confederate means to join against the federal government.

      The burning and destruction of those properties in those protest was done by outsiders. Have you every heard of crowd mania? The protesters were not protesting about George Floyd as much as they were protesting to be treated with equal rights for blacks as they are for whites.

      They were also protesting that what happened to a long line of black people who have died because of excessive force used by police departments doesn't happen to them.

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      Jack Lee 

      13 months ago from Yorktown NY

      great, idea. I want to see a statue of George Floyd in every city that was looted...as a reminder of what this incident created.

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      Eric Dierker 

      13 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I do not like rewriting the histories. And I think instead of tearing down folks should make new ones. Although folks will want to tear down those in fifty years.

      The problem as I see it from my view is that those statutes were put up during one era, shouldn't we let a new era put up theirs? I think a statute of the four founders just might work, so that we remember their Marxism.

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