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What Will Happen if Texas Secedes? OR Why the Rich Get Richer

Updated on November 27, 2012
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What does oil, cattle, an airport named after George W., and boarder patrol all have in common?

Potentially the world's newest country - Texas.

After the 2012 elections, Texas, along with several other southern states, have launch petitions to peacefully secede from the United States. While I admire the south's new method for obtaining independence (through petition rather than war), I overlooked this amusing petition. That is, until I noticed there were over 100,000 votes for Texas' succession alone.

Then I started thinking: What would actually happen if Texas left the United States and became it's own country? Would border patrol costs increase because of the now gigantic border with the US? Would Mexican's still want to cross the border? Would America's biggest threat transfer from terrorist bombings to the invasion of Oklahoma by Texans?

There are many questions, and many potential results, that may come from an independent Texas. Here we will look at some of them.

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The Drawbacks for Texas and the United States

Both Texas and the United States would have several negative responses if Texas left the union. Which would be hurt more? I will let you make that decision on your own.

Drawbacks for Texas if it Secedes:

  • Responsible for Mexico boarder patrol on it's own: We all know what happened the last time Texas was independent of the United States - it was taken over by Mexico. With the vast size of Texas, boarder patrol with Mexico is an expensive job. Is Texas up for it?
  • Boarder patrol with the rest of the United States: This may actually be more of a concern for the United States than for Texas. After all, the poor, underprivileged and Democrats will not be flocking to Texas. It will actually be the wealthy, initiative takers, and successful who will attempt to escape into Texas for financial and political protection from the high demands of the US government on their fortunes and pay checks.
  • Extremists invading Mexico or Oklahoma: While many people who sign a petition for Texas to become it's own country may have good reason for it, Texas is also filled with some incredibly scary fanatics. A peace-loving business professional in Dallas may sign the petition thinking that he is creating a better future for himself and his family. Meanwhile, some redneck on the boarder of Reynosa may have ideas of taking over northern Mexico. This would not be good for the Dallas business man or his family.
  • That's about it... Honestly, I cannot think of any other negative responses for Texas's desire for independence.

Drawbacks for the US if Texas Secedes:

  • Less control of oil: At first I was going to say "higher oil prices", but I realized that this actually would not be the case. Texas would sell oil for the same price as always (because their would be lower taxes there) and so it really wouldn't hurt the US oil prices. But the US government would have less control of the oil.
  • The elimination of US pride: This is huge. Over the last decade there has been a growing discontent with our nation. The concepts that we all learned in school about how great our country is have been questioned more and more. If one of the key parts of American history were to secede, it would completely destroy what remains of the people's confidence in America.
  • A mass exodus of the United States' innovators, entrepreneurs, and wealthy: The US has had a near monopoly on innovation and wealth because it has been the best place to live for the hard working and wealthy. However, Texas has all of the benefits of the United States (language, security, stability, honesty, global respect). Therefore, if Texas offered all of the benefits of being a US citizen, in addition to lower taxes and more respect for those who earn their wealth through hard work, why wouldn't the wealthy and innovative move to Texas?
  • Less income for the US government: After looking at all of the points mentioned above, it should be obvious to recognize that US government profits would drop significantly. The people whom the Democratic party have been relying on to support the increases in welfare, healthcare, and other legislation, would leave the country - eliminating a significant amount of wealth anticipated to maintain government initiatives.

Both Texas and the US would have multiple negative impacts from this split, but there may be positive aspects as well.

The Benefits for Texas and the US if Texas Becomes Independent

For Texas there are clear benefits for becoming it's own country. As for the United States, it may be difficult to see the benefits, but there are still some potential ones for the nation.

Benefits of Independence for Texas

  • Lower Taxes: Let's face it, oil runs the world. Texas oil pays a large percentage of the welfare bills for New York, Chicago, and LA. Texas, as an independent country, would have far fewer bills to pay.
  • Freedom to enjoy capital punishment: We all know that Texans are avid supporters of this law (which is ironic considering the vast percentage of Christian's in the state).
  • Increased Immigration of the wealthy and creative - decreased immigration of the poor: I'm no idiot. If Texas provided me with the same securities and freedoms that I have in the United States, but with lower taxes, I would move their in a heartbeat. As the wealthy and innovative recognize the increased financial strain that the United States government is placing on them to support the 99% (who are actually only about 3% - a disgruntled group who fail to recognize that it is their selfishness that makes others rich), they will do what they have always done (take initiative), and move to Texas!


The Benefits for the US if Texas Secedes

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Why the Rich Get Richer

Wealth comes from investment, hard work, and intelligence. People who are willing to sacrifice now for the sake of more later will always become wealthy. Meanwhile, those who want to spend their money (and the governments money) now, will be poor - no matter how much they receive.

The wealthy are that way because they live and act intelligently. They take advantage of opportunities and pass up pleasure now for the promise of a better future. The wealthy have the initiative to seek out opportunities and take them - no matter where they are.

What does this mean? If the US becomes anti-wealthy. The wealthy will leave. If the wealthy leave, so will jobs.

Without wealth, there is no investment. Without investment, there is no opportunity for job creation.
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What Can America Learn From This? You Cannot Vote to Give Away Someone Else's Money

Personally, I really admire the idealistic and community-focused interests that the Democratic Party maintains. The friendliness and community-focused mentality is something that the Republican Party needs to learn from. Many republicans seem to come off as self-focused and close minded.

However, one thing that the Democratic Party lacks is common business sense. Many democrats will say that they hate big business - which is fine. We all have the freedom to hate whatever we so choose. But if you hate it, don't support it (in other words, don't buy from a company that you don't support).

The probably arises when people start voting to have other people give away their money. Rather than avoiding brands that they feel are repressive, too many people want to simply increase the taxes of these companies and have the money given to them. In other words, these same people who create a stink over "selfish big businesses" portray the same selfishness in demanding that these big businesses provide them with a free lunch.

My friends, when you change the world by forcing other people to follow your desires, it's called tyranny - regardless of your personal financial situation.

Why The Texas Secession Petition is a Good Thing

Many people have the false assumption that, by raising taxes on the wealthy, they will someone become wealthier themselves. This is not the case. As the Texas secession petition reveals - the wealthy will leave if they realize they are being treated poorly. People become wealthy because they work hard and take initiative. That same initiative will motive them to leave any situation that is biased against them - including a nation that taxes them for being smart, creative, hard working, and thrifty.

Those who feel underprivileged in America need to recognize that information, not money, is power. While those with information often end up with money, without information, you can never have money for long.

Rather than scheming up ways to acquire more money, those who are in poverty must recognize (and be educated) that knowledge makes you rich. Legislation can change, governments can come and go, but those with knowledge will always be better off than the uneducated (and I am not referring to only academic knowledge).

Therefore, while I hope that Texas does not ever leave the union, I do hope that this action leads to a recognition that no one has the right to take advantage of others - neither the rich, nor the poor.

Ultimately, we must all make decisions for ourselves - recognizing that it is our behavior that affects society. Personally, I do not like the low wages that Wal-Mart pays it's employees (this actually increases the US tax burden). Therefore, I simply avoid shopping at Wal-Mart as much as possible.

It is foolish to think that taking money from the rich will make the poor better off. Not only that, but stealing from the rich is still stealing. I have no right to decide how others spend their money. All I can do is decide what I will use my time and money to support.

This Texas petition to secede has reminded me that America is a free country - and people can freely leave (even if not through Texas, than somewhere else). If we keep taxing the wealthy, creative, and hard working, they will eventually go somewhere else where their effort is appreciated. And you know what leaves with the wealthy? Everyone else's jobs.

What do you think about states seceding and the increased tax burdens that our nation is considering? Share your thoughts and comments below.

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      Sid Kemp 4 years ago from Boca Raton, Florida (near Miami and Palm Beach)

      Your hub here got me reading more. The issue of a State's right to secession was huge well before the civil war, in the 1830s. The key issue is that, in forming a federal government (not a confederation) the states formed a nation, and they had no right to destroy it. Similar logic can be found in two cases on a personal level. In some traditions, the right to marry creates a marriage that cannot be broken. And, certainly, if two parents create a child, they can't take that back! Some changes go only one way. The United States has decided that creating the United States was on of those types of changes.

      If you want to learn more, follow the Wikipedia link to the heading above, then follow that to the link to the main article on US secession issues.

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      Robert Erich 4 years ago from California

      Hey Sid!

      Great points. Thank you for sharing. I had never heard of the argument that once a state joins the Union, it forfeits its right to leave. That makes sense and is very interesting.

      Thanks for stopping by to comment!

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      Sid Kemp 4 years ago from Boca Raton, Florida (near Miami and Palm Beach)

      This is a fascinating article. I would add only two points from a historical perspective. Back in the 1860s, when Lincoln became President, southern states, starting with South Carolina, petitioned to secede. Lincoln held that the central issue of the Civil War was not slavery, but the fact that a state, once it had joined the Union, did not have the right to secede.

      After the Civil War, in 1869, the Supreme Court ruled on this issue: However in 1869 the United States Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) that unilateral secession was not permitted saying that the union between a state (Texas in the case before the bar) "was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States." (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession#United_Stat...

      With regard to taxing the wealthy, England tried this. (Remember the Beatle's song Tax Man "It's one for you, nineteen for me. I'm the Tax Man." That was real - a 95% inheritance tax. And Southern Ireland created a tax haven, and the richest English moved there. So, on that side, your point is already proven.

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      Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

      egomaniac -- appears I'm too old and stupid -- and probably too far out of the loop to know who/what "mrxic" is that is going to invade Texas. For all the same reasons -- my being old, stupid, etc. -- I'm also sure that if we don't want him/her/it hear him/her it won't/will not stay! LOL! Best/Sis

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      egomaniac 4 years ago

      im going to watch as mrxic invades texas. lol

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      aethelthryth 4 years ago from American Southwest

      I'm from a state that tends to tell Texas jokes rather than ethnic jokes. However, what I have learned about Texas over the years has forced me to respect Texas anyway. If any state can succeed in being its own country, I'd say it would be Texas or Alaska, but not particularly because of their size. Alaskans have impressed me as being very well organized and willing to do things on their own, and Texas likewise really seems to have been thinking of itself as "a whole other country" all along. They teach Texas history in Texas, they know they were actually their own country once (and presumably could do it again anytime), and they do still remember the Alamo.

      West Texas is one of the most unscenic places I've ever been, but I would love to live in San Antonio, and the petition has got me (and others where I live) thinking about it.

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      catgypsy 4 years ago from the South

      Really interesting hub with a lot of good points to think about! Great job!

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      Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

      I'll address one point you bought up in this well thought out Hub -- if Texas could/would/did secede we'd do one hell of a lot better job in keeping the Texas/Mexican border secure for both Texans and Mexicans than this POTUS seems interested in doing. He doesn't live in a border state, never has and doesn't even understand the problem. I'm a Texan from the word go and if it were left up to us we could control the illegal immigration entering this country from Mexico, provide better services (and a huge welcome) for legal immigrants and stop a whole bunch of this border mess/murder/mayhem that's going on. Yes, Texas also advocates the death penalty and uses it when it can get past corrupted and overloaded court systems -- the first murder in Texas is not free. We've got a lot of resources, including oil, and could probably make it pretty good -- don't think we'd go out hunting new territory to annex or anything like that. I think the biggest problem would probably be protecting our borders from all the folks that are worn out with this POTUS and his bunch of czars -- they'd all want to come to Texas and they may not be the majority but there's a bunch of 'em out there. Will Texas secede? I seriously doubt it but would probably support it if we got down to the bottom line. Enjoyed this Hub immensely and you covered all sides of the question. Voted up! Best/Sis

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      xrocker30 4 years ago

      Last time states tried to secede from the Union about the same amount of American lives were lost than all our other wars combined. I'm not saying we will have another civil war but look how it turned out last time. Not good.

      Plus I think the majority of these petition signers have little knowledge as to what the benefits and consequences for Texas and the USA actually are if they were to secede.

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      John Harper 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      If there were truth and integrity in the world, the POTUS would give a referendum to Texans, one simple question: succession YES/NO.

      If a majority said yes.... then you just need to decide whether America is a free country or not, which would be determined by the way the government reacted to a succession vote to leave the Union.

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      Russ Moran 4 years ago from Long Island, New York

      Interesting speculation. Does Texas want to be Galt's Gulch? Although the petition is symbolic, as are those from other states, it raises some very important issues.

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      carol stanley 4 years ago from Arizona

      It all depends what the raised taxes are used for. Raising taxes is okay as long as there are also budget cuts. Is that going to happen??? As for Texas, who knows. I think we are all going to be playing the waiting game for the next twelve months.

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      Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

      If you are talking about the famous White House petition, that is so not going to happen, and anyway, I think the whole notion of secession was settled some 147 or so years ago. Unless you can manage a ground swell of people as in a substantial proportion of a state's population, it's all just stuff and nonsense. (There is a petition for the secession of Minnesota. I looked at it and people from Florida, Texas, California etc. signed it. O.K., so you folks don't like us, but that doesn't make the petition serious either.)

      Now, as for your second question, there is simply no way out of this mess that does not involve raising taxes. We can only go so far in inflating the debt away by manufacturing money out of thin air. There is no single politician, much less a large enough group of them, that is willing to withstand the heat that would come from trying to resolve the issue by reducing spending alone. Thus taxes have to go up and they have to go for everybody, the wealthy do not have enough money to finance our current spending binge on their own.

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      BigEd 4 years ago

      Voted up and others. Thanks for a well thought out Hub. I enjoyed it.