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When and Where Hate Lives (Martin Luther King)

Updated on January 11, 2018
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Holding degrees in philosophy and Law. Formal studies or certificates or degrees in business, theology, insurance and security. Ex-preacher.

Love Not, Lest Thee Be Loved?

Hate not, lest thee be hated?
Hate not, lest thee be hated? | Source

If The Cause is Great Then So Be It Hate?

One time my high school football lost a really close game against our rivals. And we went across to midfield and found our nemesis’s and shook hands and chatted about plays and patted each other with respect.

One time after busing for three hours we played against a very much larger school and won. Two of our guys took their helmets off like idiots and were held for observation after the midfield mayhem after the game. “You beat me so I hate you”.

Much closer to the end of WWII I hung out in Europe for a while. The German people were all really friendly to us Yanks. We beat them and kind of saved them a little. France was horribly different, they literally spat on me a time or two. They hated us yanks. Now by my understanding we pretty much saved France in the war. Or maybe to say it more accurately without us they would have lost their country for good. So why did they hate me? I think at about that time we were also saving their back ends in Indochina. Why would a Parisian have ill feelings toward an Arizona country boy?

I was hired as an American Cook there for a spell. No, no, no not a Chef. I cooked stuff like T-Bone steaks, baked or any kind of potato (not Al Gratin) torn lettuce and tomato salads, corn on the cob. You see I worked for an oil broker who did big business with yanks and it was a real show off to treat them to an “American Meal”. Nothing fancy but I often cooked lamb to entertain Basque folk. So I am in the butcher shop where I went every day and say J'aimerais côtelettes d'agneau and point to the lamb that I got once a week. The response is “you are too stupid to speak French tell me what you want in English”. Now that is just being a prick.

But I have that great old Arizonan know how. I got the chien by dating his daughter and this was ‘70’s Paris, very little hand holding ;-)

All of this ran through my head as I noted politics. Somebody comes out the winner and we hate them for it. Where ever that is coming from is pure evil. “I hate the Rams because they beat my Chargers”. I think we get that concept. But let us look at it a little more deeply.

OK It Is Mushy But I Like It!

If I Had More Love I Just Might Burst

Maybe we should just skip ahead to it's a wonderful world.
Maybe we should just skip ahead to it's a wonderful world. | Source

Give It A Shot, Love Your Enemy!

Role models are indeed an interesting point of concept. We will get to the negative in a bit like scandals. I have several role models from afar. Go ahead and scream – elected officials in my country I hold in high high esteem. I really like racial activists that preach the word of love. Maybe this sounds weird but I admire my friends who risked crossing that Tijuana River to raise a family here. (ok so I still have some pride in gunslingers from the old Southwest – lawbiding? We don’t need no stinking badges.

I just love it when my son busts in during a scene of conflict in a movie and says “wait are those the bad guys or the good guys doing bad? Or the bad guys doing good?” So maybe I look up to black knights in a way.

Perhaps I just have respect for folks who put it on the line. Right or wrong. Maybe I am saying that an apathetic person is useless to me, but one with passion and principle is to be admired. Even though our principles do not mesh.

Here is one for you. If you like standard winners and do not like losers. What you going to do about Christ? I have always had great respect for our Crockett, Bowie and Travis but in fact they were losers. Verdict still out on Houston.

On this point I am extremely adamant. Nixon was a great man simply because he was a president of the United States of America. For me that is end of the story stuff. I think I would be hard pressed to stand up to Jesus and cast the first stone. Maybe in my arrogance but not in my love. We really have to love ourselves first even with our pimples and warts and farts. Before we can judge another’s gastronomical extravagances.

If someone is so successful that they can become POTUS I think we should take that knee and salute. Not one president basher could do it. It is like the beer swilling idiot proclaiming he could do it better than a super bowl loser.

A weird one along these lines is Pro Baseball’s All-star picks. The fans choose the best? No they choose their favorites. Kind of like Hollywood award shows only backwards.

I am pretty sure that we have a bit of a row when my wife tells me what to think or say. Fine if she tells me what she thinks and what she thinks I should say. But there is that fine marital line that must be drawn and not crossed – lest respect be the first causality. And where respect is absent love has no foothold.

I actually broke a boy’s nose because he called me a son of a bitch. You see being the son made no never mind but calling my mom a bitch was too far. In those days with two witnesses he was in trouble and not me. So you have to stand for something or you will fall for anything. But let us look what we can really stand for. (Donald McDonald and I stayed enemy friends, I was a crazy white boy and he was a crazy Navajo – since kindergarten)

Perhaps This Fine Man Had Reason to Hate, But He Chose Love, How Much More Can you?

What Does Hate Have to Do With Anything Important?

I have an idea - let us not hate - it could work.
I have an idea - let us not hate - it could work. | Source

Hey, If My Children Love Me, I Can Love Yours

We have this marvelous dichotomy here in the US. Standing by a neighbor, family member or friend is optimum. Even the stranger in need deserves this respect. But the child of a politician or famous person is fair game to attack? What in the hell?

Why the hell do we enjoy reading about a hero fallen. Or maybe we just pick sides and within a second or two forget why. Can you imagine two sides arguing about the right to attack another woman’s child? It is wrong and those that debate for it are outliers of a malicious sort.

I have been blessed to be with more than a handful of young people becoming adults. Truly blessed. But I can tell you to an absolute certainty those children on an occasion said that they hated a parent. Parents get over it and children forgive yourselves. But I think long and hard on that.

Can the advancement and proclamation of hate ever do any good? I am of the opine that it cannot. (l leave a caveat here for warning signs of self danger from a child – that is a sticky wicket we should always pay attention to)

So I see in this world hating people. I get it between folks like ISIS and Israel. But between two Americans it is ludicrous. It is outrageous and shows a weakness of character. Really you have enough energy to take away from good to hate. I lately have seen one group hate another group because they hate. I could not make that up it is so spiritually, morally and loving bankrupt. And if you throw in a word like “because” it is even worse. If you hate someone because they hate someone you are bordering on arrested development.

The very honorable Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. makes it clear for once and for every; “We must meet hate with love”. Truer words were never spoken by a mortal. How easy to hate someone for hating, and how sad.


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    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Fantastic Lawrence. When I see you have commented I always get happy and read.

      Hate is just so complicated. Our latest school shooting of the horrific kind drives home a point. Hate really was not a factor. Hate is not the bearer of all bad, apathy is.

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      Lawrence Hebb 

      10 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand


      Where do I start? I had many of the same things said about me when I was trying to learn Arabic, mostly bemused amusement as "Our language is too hard for a dumb Faranji" (Actually they mostly used a much more colorful word), but when I'd finally got to speaking the language, they used to refuse to believe I was English!

      Most of it comes from what the 'Hater' thinks is their own experience, but when you push them on it, it turns out to be what someone else has told them!

      We 'Hate' ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood because of what the media has told us, but I used to have really good friends who were in the Brotherhood! I still think of them, not as fanatics, but as caring human beings who saw no one except the fundamentalists helping the poor!

      Just something to think on.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Maybe you misspelled it. But your error leads to great stuff to ponder. Check out the word lumens. The measure of a lights brilliance.

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      11 months ago from london

      I spelt it wrong. You can say that illumining refers to the Light and that Namaste pays homage to that all-illumining Light. Hari om!!

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dora, thank you. You just made me think about here on HP. If you choose you can write in the religious or political arenas. And for the most part there is respect to each other. I speak of articles/hubs. And I think like 90% is respectful.

      Well I most certainly respect you.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Linda, you are so right about Great Britain. I should have mentioned that.

      I am still in a quandary about removing labels. It is like learning not to discern or judge people. With my children I often have had to do that in mere minutes.

      I guess my problem is that the labels just don't influence my judgement.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lori, I really have tried to taper that optimism down a notch or two. And when I do my wife gets upset. The pros say I have a Pollyanna disorder.

      Thank you for coming by and letting me know that you did. It means a lot to me.

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      Dora Weithers 

      11 months ago from The Caribbean

      "Can the advancement and proclamation of hate ever do any good?" Thanks for dealing with this topic and I think that your opinions show wisdom.

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      Linda Lum 

      11 months ago from Washington State, USA

      First, LOVE Louis Armstrong. I could have that song playing in the background all day and be happy.

      You mentioned visits to Germany and France post WWII. I've not done that (only 24 hours in Paris doesn't count), but have spent a fair amount of time in London and surrounds. At that time we were still loved. The memorial for the fallen Americans at Cambridge is amazing, humbling, tear-provoking for its beauty and reverence.

      In the final analysis, we aren't good or bad if we are Dem or Rep., Lib or Cons. If we could just erase the labels and just agree that we all bleed the same color of blood, shed the same tears, and are loved by the same God...could we all just agree to get along?

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      Lori Colbo 

      11 months ago from Pacific Northwest

      Dear Eric, I guess that makes you a Republocrat. Or a Demplican. Doesn't matter, you're still my favorite optimist. God bless.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks for coming by Manatita. Very cool word illuming. I always have associated it with Namaste. The light within shining.

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      11 months ago from london

      A pretty illuming piece and Louis Armstrong is always awesome. Have a great Sunday.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Please drop by and (ramble ;-) all you want to. Lori is elegant. Lori is a real lady.

      I just love the notion of enlightened. As though our relationship with God is a graduation or finish line. Around here the only real trouble we get into is failure. Failure to grow. I swear my son cheated at a bounce game today !!!

      So we are just happy. And the best happy is friends like you who are treasures of love.

      Don't tell anyone but on Tuesday I was a Democrat and on Thursday I was a republican. Maybe I should just argue with myself.

      But it is so nice to have security and routine in every day Loving my bestest friend Christ.

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      Lori Colbo 

      11 months ago from Pacific Northwest

      Dear Eric, I feel so bad I have not visited you in quite awhile. I have issues with internet and so when I get on HP I whip through and don't get much done. However, I loved this piece. I take one exception though - "We really have to love ourselves first even with our pimples and warts and farts." I can tolerate pimples (though I'm glad that part of my life is over), I also overcame warts, but no way on the fart business.

      I love that your message is about respect. If someone holds a vastly different perspective and opinion on a matter that you feel strongly about, we must pause. Hate is not the answer. Especially Christians who know very well Christ called us to love our enemies, do good to them, and pray for them. It can be very hard to do. I don't live up to that ideal perfectly, but I'm working on it. But if we are to declare Christ as Lord and Savior, we are to behave, think, and love like Him.

      I love how billybuc wrote in a recent article that if there was some disaster and you had to save someone, you wouldn't even consider asking him his political or religious affiliations (paraphrasing), and that would go for anything you feel strongly about. That is so beautiful.

      I was discussing some things with a friend awhile back. We are on the same page politically and spiritually. We were lamenting those who were wrong were gaining more ground. I sensed a bit of hate coming on. And then I thought, much as I hate their opinions and actions, I need to be grateful I live in a country, that no matter the depths of our national sins, we are still free to express ourselves. Who knows how long that will last? All that to say we should take joy in that freedom and find ways to take action on the things that are important to us. And if we could manage to have a conversation with someone on politics and religion without a yelling match, or at very least a heated conversation, we would accomplish much more. We would learn the art of respect, gratitude, and maybe discover that some people on the other side of our beliefs is not an enemy at all. JUst of another way. Arguing NEVER wins someone to your side. You also can't argue someone into the family of God. Jesus didn't ask people what their opinions were, He just loved and gave the message of salvation. He did call out and rebuke very strongly, the people who would defile His house, and mistreat people, especially the poor. Well I'm rambling now. Good to read you again. Sending a heart.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Frank, what a gem you have uncovered. What a marvelous question. I will enjoy discovering ideas that may lend us insight. I must admit that at first walk around my property thinking of it -- Can it come from within?

      Thank you for this really important question.

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      John Ward 

      11 months ago from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.

      During the 2nd world war both Brits and Yanks and Canucks fought and Freed France. But we did not chose General De Gaulle to lead the French Contingent. So we were looked on with some disdain by De Gaulle because of it. He became President of France after the war and his rhetoric was far from complimentary. So I guess we could Blame that. The Supreme Commander was of

      couse General Eisenhower . Not sure I spelt his name correctly Our Supreme Commander. Does not look right. Our troops all liked him. But the french didn't. The world loved Martin Luther King. I loved a lot of what he had to say about many things. I think he was one of our greatest. A very great piece and well written.

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      Frank Atanacio 

      11 months ago from Shelton

      another strong and powerful suggestion Eric, really makes me think.. when and where does hate really live.. can't be in the soul.. awesome share my friend

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      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Bill you reminded me to listen to "Abraham Martin and John". And of course Bobby.

      I think we must try hard to celebrate their lives of love and passion, and try to soften of the deep sorrow.

      Thank you

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      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Clive. I hope all is well with you.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I was watching a documentary on King last night. The day he was shot, Robert Kennedy gave a speech in crowd had just heard of the assassination...ready for violence in the city, some carrying guns, and there Kennedy stood, at the podium, telling the angry crowd he understood their pain, he was angry too, but at some point in time we, as a society, must choose love.

      Peace my friend

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      11 months ago

      Good Message


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