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Where's The Beef (BC)?

Updated on July 31, 2011

I Was Born!

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Now I have to admit that Orly Taitz has tenacity. She's been like a pit bull trying to get through the smoke and mirrors routine that Obama has performed to seal not only his birth records, academic records and anything else he could obscure in public records about his past. I reckon I wouldn't want this attorney to be hanging onto my trouser's leg. Not being a birther per se, but more a concerned natural born citizen, this might put the subject of his birth certificate to rest once and for all. Either that or the nation's greatest Constitutional crisis will begin to unfold. I think we all have a right to know since it took Obama over two years to supply even a shred of evidence concerning his long form birth certificate.

His ardent supporters, early on, contended that the Certificate of Live Birth posted on the White House website was definitive proof of his being born in Hawaii. So my question to them is this. If Obama had his long form BC back then, why didn't he post that on the White House website instead of a photo shopped copy of a CLB? I'm not sure how anyone would actually believe that because in 1961, in the state of Hawaii, anyone actually born in that state was issued a long form birth certificate. So lets just ignore the facts because it was their hero Obama and we were all racists because we wanted to ensure the person sitting in the Oval Office is qualified to sit there in accordance with the US Constitution.

On August 8th, just a few short days away, Taitz will be accompanied by document expert Doug Vogt and type set expert, Paul Irvey, as she serves the subpoena on Hawaii Department of Health to produce the document in question, if they even have one to produce. That subpoena was issued by the US District Court, District of Hawaii and was served on Loretta Fuddy, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health. She had 14 days to file any opposition to the subpoena and failed to do so. So here comes the entourage of experts8th to take a look.

Doug Vogt has previously filed a 22 page criminal complaint with the Federal Bureau of Investigation after his analysis of what Obama produced finally as his long form birth certificate was determined to be a forgery. I've been wondering where that complaint went and what actions have been taken. Vogt was pretty specific in his complaint. You can see some of the specifics at this link.

Paul Irvey is one of the best in his field, if not the best. How long will it take Irvey to make his determination? Here's what he said when interviewed about the upcoming trip, "Over the years of my career, I've seen everything that can be put on paper. Now that I'm thoroughly familiar with what the White House released, I will be able to tell you within a few minutes, if what the Hawaii DOH has matches what the White House has released, or not. I will expect to see the same differences in typeface that are on the White House version, otherwise I will know immediately that what the Hawaii DOH is showing us is a forgery."

Irvey seems skeptical that the Hawaii Department of Health will be very cooperative about producing anything, if they have anything to produce. In his own words, Quite frankly, I doubt the Hawaii DOH has anything to show us and if we do see a document, my guess is that it will have been forged for the purpose of showing us something."

Loretta Fuddy will be on the spot on August 8th. Orly Taitz has written Fuddy a letter, dated July 27th, asking her if she contends to comply with the federal subpoena. As of yet, she has not received a reply. On July 15th it was reported that Fuddy had "left the islands." Where did she go? Fuddy might be off island but I doubt seriously if the vault supposedly containing the document went with her.
So we're about to have push come to shove finally. Then there will remain the discrepancy of how Obama is using a social security number issued for the state of Connecticut where neither Obama, nor his father, has ever resided. Doesn't anyone besides me think all this is rather a strange swirl of information about a President of this nation?
The trio of examiners plan to hold a news conference the afternoon of August 8th detailing what they found. That should prove to be interesting. They also plan on scanning whatever it is they see, if they see anything, and post it on the internet for public consumption.
Stay tuned. The document experts are coming right at you Loretta with the federal subpoena in their hand. I still wonder why her attorneys failed to file any opposition to the subpoena issued by a federal judge. But then again, the discovery phase is designed to be the discovery phase. So let us finally discover the truth one way or the other.

Do you believe that what was produced by Obama in May as evidence of his long form birth certificate in may is:

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      b. Malin 6 years ago

      I wonder how it would be handled if the BC turned out to be FALSE...Mmmm, what Chaos it would cause. Good Hub, Froggy.

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      tom hellert 6 years ago from home


      Its funny how when a lefty ba$tard questions a right wing Black guy its the severity of the charge or heresay is fineBut oh its a literallynching if a right winger dares question a black guy-its RACISM- 'There is the definition of double standard.

      * years Libs can foam at the mouth over George Bush keeping us out of an alleged "recession" but now that lil Barry has dropped us solidly into a depression, if we speak up at all we are evil hatemonger racists -

      *the password is double standard*....


      george Bush

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      Alastar Packer 6 years ago from North Carolina

      Yeah Prince, why didn't they post it up instead of the photo-shopped one. Hey, forgery? Why do they always mark & hold my hundreds up in the air. Excellent update info on this one of so, so many questions.

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      breakfastpop 6 years ago

      I have always smelled a rat! Up and useful, interesting and awesome.

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      Ghost32 6 years ago

      Glad to see you've hopped on this one with all four frog legs. Got Aug. 8 marked on my calendar now. In red. With a big ol' Sharpie.

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      sean kinn 6 years ago from Key West and Budapest

      Mainstream press is trying to stifle this, but Google News keeps refreshing it. Wonder how the Whitehouse manages to keep to an official news release at the top of Google news results. That's a crafty way to pull of censorship, isn't it? Go, Soviet Union of the United States! :-)

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      TheGroundsquirrel 6 years ago

      I wonder how many people are wishing very badly right now that he really was from the great state of Connect-the-nut....LOL

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Carol - I believe you mean social security number. As I pointed out, neither Obama or his parents lived in Connecticut.

      The Frog

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      Carol 6 years ago from Michigan

      I know at least a few things not a birther myself. I do know that no one in their right mind would spend some 1 million dollars to stop any inqueries into Obama's birth certificate, college papers and other personal important documents. The fact that Bill Ayers used to make forged Social Security papers, birth certificates etc. for his minions while active in his Underground Weather days is another key element here. Why DOES Obama have a birth certificate issued in CT? He was 15 and living in Hawaii at the time and had never visited the state apparently.

      It's all very, very fishy. I hadn't heard about this August the 8th news conference. Keep us posted Froggy! You HAVE my attention! Well done!

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Tom - Now why do you think Taitz is taking Vogt and Irvey with her?

      Partisan Patriot - Vogt has already determined that what Obama produced is a forgery. Now the test is 1) is there anything in a vault in Hawaii and 2) does it match or differ from what Obama presented as a certified BC?

      shelia - Just Google "Orly Taitz" ans there are photos online of the subpoena. It was signed in the Federal District Court of Hawaii. Fuddy filed no opposition so here we go.

      Naomi - If they can't produce an original then Obama will have a very big problem. A huge problem. If what they produce is a forgery, it goes beyond that.

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      Pamela Oglesby 6 years ago from United States

      I would absolutely be delighted if this paper could prove that he was not a United States citizen and he would be immediately removed from office. I mean there would be dancing in the streets! I've wondered if he was a Manchurian candidate but one thing for sure there is no truth in him. Great hub.

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      Naomi's Banner 6 years ago

      I wish they would speed up this process and get the impeachment hearing started so we have something useful to watch on TV! Great Hub ... now lets see what the evidence produces if there is any.

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      sheila b. 6 years ago

      I think Obama was adopted by Soerto and his original birth certificate was sealed. With a court order, it can be unsealed. He let a military man go to jail, rather than provide his bc. Only when Trump challenged him did he get his bc and show it. I would like to know what judge signed to allow the bc to be unsealed.

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      partisan patriot 6 years ago

      Great hub Froggy; rated up and useful. The certificate is a phony as Obama's feined patriotism, christian beliefs or belief in Capitalism. This community organizer is a phony as his partner in crime Rev. Al!

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      Old Poolman 6 years ago

      I have to think we will most likely never know the truth on this issue. If it were proven true the repercussions would be beyond imagination. Everything he has done would be null and void. Hmmmm, this might not be a bad thing?

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      tom hellert 6 years ago from home


      I think you might be sailing on the Titanic with this and the big ole DNC-Obama berg is coming for this issue

      pushed on by the gulflame stream Media. i would love for them to uncover the REAL truth not some shake fake n bake version of the truth


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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      drbj - Obama seems to take quite a few vacations at critical times.

      I'm just sayin...

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      drbj and sherry 6 years ago from south Florida

      I predict there will be little if any truthful documents produced - only more obfuscation with smoke and mirrors.

      Obfuscation - that's my ten dollar word meaning you take a vacation (like Fuddy) when you want to obscure the issue.

      Thanks for keeping us informed, Frog.

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      OP - It should be a requirement. They questioned McCain's eligibility in the US Senate and not Obama's? Something is wrong with that picture.

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      Old Poolman 6 years ago

      FP - I can only imagine the laughter and jokes that will roll around the world if it turns out all of these documents are false. Regardless of the outcome, I would hope we are smart enough to learn a lesson from this situation. Perhaps we should ask for some documentation prior to placing a candidate on the ballot for President of the United States?

      Great hub, please keep us informed on this issue.