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Where's The Beef (BC)? - Part 2

Updated on August 11, 2011

Here Come Da Judge!

I have previously posted a Hub called “Where’s The Beef (BC)?” about Attorney Orly Taitz having a subpoena issued by the Federal Distract Court in Hawaii requiring that the Hawaii Department of Health produce the “supposed” original birth certificate of one Barack Hussein Obama which is purported to be in a vault controlled by that agency. The date it was supposed to be produced was August 8th of 2011. She was to be accompanied by two document experts for that examination. No, I'm not a birther, just a concerned citizen seeking the truth. You can read that report below at the link.

Upon arrival at the Department of Health with document experts and media in tow, Taitz was handed a denial letter. She then headed straight to the federal court house. A Show Cause and Compel Attendance for Production of Documents and naturally she asked for attorney fees and costs to be paid by the defendant.

A hearing has now been set before Judge Richard L. Puglisi (pictured above right) on September 14th of 2011 at 10 AM in Court Room 6 at the Federal District Court of Hawaii. Plantiff is to provide notice of hearing to Loretta Fuddy of “she has left the islands” fame. Notice is easy to provide whether she is present or not and that has been done. The link below will show you the court order requiring Fuddy to appear and show cause as to why she failed to comply with a federal subpoena.

Fuddy is claiming privacy issues prevent her from complying with the subpoena. When, in fact, Obama himself waived all his privacy issues when he released what he contends is his original long form birth certificate to the public over the internet to the whole world. The question in this reporter's mind is how long will the Hawaii Department of Health, in the form of Loretta Fuddy, be allowed to obstruct justice with such flimsy excuses meant to only stonewall the inevitable. I guess on September 14th, when she is compelled to attend the hearing in Court Room 6, we’ll find out. Loretta Fuddy can now tell it to the judge.

Common Sense Questions

During an April 27th Presidential news conference, Obama with great fanfare, released to the world what he purports to be his original long form birth certificate obtained from that secret vault in Hawaii. So the question begs itself, "If, in fact, it matches what is contained in that vault why is Fuddy stone walling further?" Obama waived all rights to privacy issues concerning that document when he released it and it was posted all over the internet. Loretta, here comes the judge for you to provide a logical explanation. The problem, as I see it, is that there is no logic explanation to any of this since it all began.

If it in fact matches, why aren't both Fuddy and Obama eager to have what is in the vault examined for its authenticity? Or is there nothing in that vault?

One thing I do know is that Orly Taitz isn't going away, and Obama continues to spend big bucks trying to shake her off.

As Always,

The Frog - A Concerned Citizen

PS - Ghost, mark the 14th of September on your calendar. I'd love to be in Court Room 6 on that date!


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      Harvey Stelman 6 years ago

      Froggy, An excellent piece of writng. I just hope it's not like Geraldo opening Al Capone's vault. As a Chicagoan, I don't believe anything Obama says. I would believe it if I was union. H

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      TheGroundsquirrel 6 years ago

      You know, if they were after yours or mine there would have been federal marshalls present to enforce the order. You know 'em, they didn't have any problem at all ripping a frightened child out of the arms of his loving family (Elian Gonzalez). So, heads up government dudes! Are you for the constitution, or are you having too much fun with your new found justifications for bullying your fellow citizens at the behest of a poseur? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

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      WillStarr 6 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      I'm no conspiracy buff, but there's something very suspicious about all this.

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      34th Bomb Group 6 years ago

      I'm with Mark Sparks - was he actually BORN? Born of a woman?

      Or was he hatched?


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      pat potts 6 years ago

      Thanks for the information Frog. I will keep up with this one.

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      Pamela Oglesby 6 years ago from United States

      Excellent concise to the point article. Obama seems to have a huge number to things to hide. I will keep Sept. 14th in mind. I'm glad you are reporting this.

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      Ghost32 6 years ago

      Wow. Got the calendar marked. And yes, being in that courtroom would be well worth it.

      Excuse me just a sec; gotta walk over to the far office wall (not VERY far; it's a small office) and mark that calendar for Sept. 14th....


      As I've said before, Jim, I'm mighty glad you're staying on top of this one. Keep us posted as (duh!) I know you will.

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      Stewart Engelman 6 years ago

      Either there is no US BC, or if there is, it would prove he's a naturalized, not a natural born, US citizen. All previous BC's not only were fakes, but HAD to be obvious fakes. If Obama was truly born in 1961, as he says, then immigration law in effect at the time would bar him from POTUS eligibility (at the time, children of one American parent had to be born after the American parent reached the age of 21, and Obama's American birth parent was 18 at the time). Any real US BC, if it exists, cannot be made public, as the "mother age" issue would blow Obama's cover. And producing no BC was causing Obama too much heat. So he took the middle course - disseminate multiple US and foreign BC's the could easily be proven fake (i.e., intentionally sloppy forgeries). It gets Obama the best he can hope for - continued delay.

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      Naomi's Banner 6 years ago from United States

      Well let's give him a fair trial which is what we get in America right? Let's see what the courts say about this document they call a BC

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      Reynold Jay 6 years ago from Saginaw, Michigan

      Forgery Forgery! Forgery! Let's slip the cuffs on this guy who claims to be the president!

      Big JIm sumed it up at breakfast this morning. "He's under arrest!" and flashed his badge.

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      TheManWithNoPants 6 years ago from Tucson, Az.

      Sadly if anything is proved on this, it'll be after his ass whoopin by my fellow Texan and Obama beater Rick Perry. He'll make it official Saturday. Good job Frog!


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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Dave - I've thought about it. A natural born citizen is a natural born citizen. It is s Constitutional requirement that the POTUS be a natural born citizen. What is there to think about? Forgery of a BC is a felony in this country. Think about that.

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      Dave Mathews 6 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

      Froggie: Even the long form is a worhtless peice of paper that proves nothing except some child was born on such and such a date to so and so in the city of somewhere. The document in no way establishes that the document represents the person presenting it. Think about it??

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Dave - It goes like this. First, a photo shopped copy of a "Certificate of Live Birth" was posted on the White House website as proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. If he had the original long form at the time, why didn't he just have that posted? As the controversy over his birth place continued, it became apparent that the issue wasn't going to go away. It has to do with being a natural born citizen, not whether he was born but where.

      Then he holds a big press conference on April 27th and unveils what is supposed to be his long form BC. More than a few document experts have determined that it is a forgery. Why would Obama have it forged? Then he spends millions of dollars hiding what should be easily releasable. Why would he spend that kind of money doing that?

      Mary - What Obama released isn't half hand written and half typed. In fact, looking at all the analysis done on the document even the type set in certain areas don't match. Why? Because it is a layered document is why. Supposedly Obama flew one of his aides to Hawaii to obtain what he released. What is in the vault, in anything, should be an exact match to what he released.

      Partisan Patriot - Just this morning I had what happened when they went into Capone's Vault in my thoughts. They came up empty handed and I believe they'll come up empty handed in Hawaii too.

      Mark - I understand but he was born. The question is, "Where?"

      The Frog

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      Mark Sparks 6 years ago from Charlottesville, Virginia

      Thank you for publishing this, concerned citizen.But I'll go a step further; I want to see proof he was actually born!

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      partisan patriot 6 years ago


      Barackie Boo's so called April 27 release of that forged document had about as much fan fair associated with it as Jeraldo's descent into Al Capone's Vault a few years back. The authenticity of both events rivaled each other also!

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      MaryinMinnesota 6 years ago

      I believe it was Loretta Fuddy who stated that Obama's original birth certificate was half hand written and half typed. If she is forced to show the original to Taz, then it's going to be interesting to see that one. I mean, with all of the millions, make that billions, of births that have been recorded in hospitals, how many would be half hand written and half typed? Probably just the one for a half white, half black, male. What are the odds of that? Like 1 in a billion or maybe even trillion?

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      Dave Mathews 6 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

      Froggie: You're making a big issue over a document that proves absolutely nothing. A birth certificate is a worthless, meaningless document that merely states the name of a person and the supposed date that person was born, BUT, there is nothing to substantiate the document no picture, not that that would matter and no finger or footprints to establish the validity of the document or who the document is for and about. A birth Certificate is the most meaningless document created by government, for you could put any name and date of birth on it.

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      Wayne Brown 6 years ago from Texas

      Obama has so much to hide that he cannot find enough places or enough money to keep it hidden. Things keep falling through the cracks which add substance to what he calls absurdity. I have never seen a "Magna Cum Laude" graduate of Harvard Law who was so ashamed of his grades or so disrespectful of the Constitution. If we have nothing to hide, then there is no reason to hide anything. It is that simple. Where there is smoke; there's''s that simple too and I see a lot of smoke drifting over this White House.

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Wayne - The Lame Stream Media is "speak no evil" when it comes to their Anointed One.

      BPOP - I looked at the calendar yesterday and remembered August 8th so I took a look at what happened on that date and sure enough - the brick wall went up by Fuddy. I thought that would be the case. So now I definitely question why. A federal subpoena isn't something to trifle with.

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      breakfastpop 6 years ago

      I am glad you are following this mess. If Obama had nothing to hide why did he create such mystery? I think I know why, but I'll wait for the final word. Voted up, interesting, useful and awesome.

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      Wayne Brown 6 years ago from Texas

      That vault got one or two things in it, a smoking gun or a kettle of fish. How much news coverage did this get versus the peaceniks who demonstrated outside Bush's ranch in Crawford TX? Apparently logic is not talent of the media. WB

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      Alan Bowman 6 years ago from The World

      As ever FP a very concise and to the point blog and it sure will be interesting to watch.

      The funny thing about truth is you need no memory only liars and fakers need that so let us see what the vault brings in September because I would not want to be your President if it is nothing or a fake.

      Cheers from the other side of the pond where we are used to Bliars.