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Who Believes Russians Had Anything to Do With Hillary Clinton Losing the Presidential Election? [F1 886]

Updated on June 17, 2019
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It is now February 4, 2019, and this article was written in April 20, 2017

There is still zero evidence from the Mueller investigation or any investigation that Hillary Rodham Clinton lost the 2016 presidential election from anything Russian.

What was the purpose of the Mueller investigation?

The Mueller investigation started without a crime to be investigated, and it persisted because the democrats created the issue. The probe started as two congressional hearings on the Trump Russian inquiry were winding down with no finding of any Trump or Russian collusion to influence our election. Mueller then goes on for another year not producing any reason to continue. Had there been evidence, it would have been quickly presented to a grand jury for an indictment, but how can anyone be indicted when there is no crime to indict.

The indictment by Robert Mueller against the "Russians" is fell apart because the Russians have attorney's representing them in this indictment. When the prosecution indicts, the court implicitly deems that as a Ready to go to trial. It is clear that the Mueller lawyers are not ready to go to trial because they have no evidence and no crime.

The Mueller lawyers indictment in the Manafort Case

This indictment against Manafort was for activity before he joined the Trump team, and it was about his activity in the Ukraine, and had nothing to do with the Russians.

The Judge in that case also went against the Mueller indictment stating that the court didn't believe Mueller really wanted to put Manafort on trial, but only to use him to get something against Donald Trump.

Now after one year of the investigation by the Mueller team there is still no evidence of a crime, nor is there even a crime being mentioned.

Why then is Mueller still conducting an investigation?

The answer is the political power of the democrats that keep it going. They have made Mueller into a key figure in the Trump Russian Collusion and any attempt to stop Mueller would be a political A bomb for Trump and or the republicans.

At the same time the democrats continue to oppose any special counsel and investigations on Hillary Clinton, the DNC, the State Department, FBI, NSA, CIA or anything connected to the democrats.

Everyday, we find more and more information that shines a powerful light on the corruption of the democrats and their minions in the Obama administration, as well as the anti Trump people still in the executive branch.

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What has changed since the beginning of the investigations that started more than a year ago.

After losing the election, even Hillary Clinton said it was FBI director James Comey that lost her the election.


The main stream media news still keeps grinding away on this even though there hasn't been any shred of evidence.

If you believe that there was a Russian Influence what do you base it on?

  • Please comment on it, as I and others would like to know.


What has changed in the last seven months,

Answer NOTHING

Isn't it time for all the democrats, like All the Kings Men give up trying to put Humpty Dumpty Clinton back as president.

FACT:

On November 8, the presidential election took place, and the winner of that election is Donald Trump.

FACT:

Presidential Candidate Donald Trump received 304 Electoral Votes to win the election.

  • To win the US presidential election as candidate had to get at least 270 Electoral College Votes.
  • This was a number that the MSM, Hillary Rodham Clinton, the DNC, and all the Clinton supporters said for the entire election campaign that Donald J Trump wouldn't be able to get.
  • No one on the left had any doubt that Hillary Rodham Clinton wouldn't beat Donald J Trump in the Electoral College, and the Swing States.
  • Many democrats in congress and most of the Hollywood Elite were very focal that Trump wouldn't "NEVER" become the US president. This included California Democrat Senator Nancy Pelosi, who said for us to believe her, and it is in the bank.
  • Actor George Clooney, Alec Baldwin, the people on the TV show the View, and Hollywood in general were so sure that Trump wouldn't win said, that they would leave the country if Trump did win. That is how sure they were that he wouldn't win. Yet, it has been five months since Trump won the presidency, and it has been three months into the Trump presidency, and how many of these Hollywood celebrities have actually left the country?

FACT:

The Popular Vote is not the deciding factor in winning the United States presidency.

FACT

On January 20, 2017, President Elect Donald J Trump became the 45th US President.


2016 Presidential Election

Which of the following had the biggest influence on Hillary Clinton losing the presidential election in 2016

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The Democrats, including the DNC and Hillary Rodham Clinton have alleged many reasons why Donald Trump shouldn't be president

The allegations are a litany of sour grapes rather than any kind of substantive base to provide any proof why Donald Trump didn't win the 2016 presidential election. There has been NO Proof whatsoever that bear any veracity or substance to Any and All the allegations produced by two time failed United States presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democrat National Committee, the Untied States Congress, or anyone at all.

These allegations all have one thing in common, Hillary Rodham Clinton doesn't factor in any Failure on her part that contributed to her losing the presidency to Donald Trump.

  • How can that be true?
  • How can Hillary Rodham Clinton ignore all of her choices and decisions on how to handle her presidential campaign?
  • Did she effectively use the $1.2 billion campaign fund/war chest against Donald Trump who only had half of that fund for his campaign.
  • In 2008, democrat presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama effectively used his overwhelming campaign fund to take Hillary Rodham Clinton out of the democrat primary. In fact, Hillary Clinton had to put in millions of her own money to even stay in the primary as long as she did stay.
  • Without regard to the Wiki Leaks that Hillary Clinton, the DNC and democrat supporters say cost her the election, were there any claims that the Veracity and Facts about these leaks were not true.
  • The veracity and factual substance of these leaks weren't contest, only the mechanism of the way they were leaked was contested.
  • RUSSIANS
  • JAMES COMEY FBI
  • These were two of the biggest allegations made by the Losers, and neither of these had any substance to make them credible or real.


Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey

James Comey came into play twice before Election Day.

James Comey the second coming of Christ for the Democrats.

versus

James Comey the Devil

Do the democrats really want us to believe that James Comey is both of these. Maybe if they asserted some sort of political physics using the

  • The Heisenberg Principle of Observation

    1. Every event is changed by the observation of that event.
    2. The momentum of an event is changed by observation.

    Or maybe using another axiom from physics
    1. what quantum mechanics really states is that until you measure it, you can never really know where something is going to be, only the probability that it is there.
    Applying these scientific principles to the US election process is a far reach, but that is what it looks like the left is doing here.
  • The more pragmatic view of what FBI director James Comey did during 2016
  1. James Comey in regard to the FBI "Investigation" was to allow Hillary Clinton to not be indicted for Federal Criminal Crimes.
  2. After making a lengthy list of all the things that Hillary Clinton did that were criminal, he took an illogical conclusion that said she had no Intent and therefore no crime.
  3. It is illogical because the Element of Intent is not mentioned in the statute. Had intent been an element, it would have been Treason as the crime.
  4. In any case, the democrats applauded James Comey for his illogical and non factual reasons for letting Hillary Clinton continue in the election.

James Comey the Devil

A short time before Election Day, FBI director James Comey became the Devil because he gave congress notice that the Clinton investigation that he previously told them was closed, was now being opened due to new evidence that was being investigated.

  • Yet, in ONE Week, the FBI went through hundreds of thousand of pages of the Weiner Computer emails, and once again closed the investigation in favor of keeping Hillary Clinton an UNindicted presidential candidate.

How could this be a factor in Hillary Clinton losing the election to Donald Trump, as in both cases Comey let her off from being indicted for criminal crimes?


Note: That they don't factor the 2005 private recording of Donald Trump and Billy Bush by NBC as having any negative effect on Trump's campaign. Strange that NBC kept this private recording from 2005, and it was leaked just before the election day.

The Russians The Russians

The Hillary Clinton campaign, its supporters, the DNC and democrats allege that the RUSSIANS influenced the 2016 US presidential election.

  • Yet, in the more than nine months of investigations, NO evidence has been produced.
  • NO Evidence of hacking was produced, as the votes were not affected by any outside means.
  • While the Wiki Leaks did give mountains of evidence that the DNC and Hillary Clinton did Influence the Democrat Primary and it successfully removed senator Bernie Sanders from the democrat primary.
  • Sanders had won the momentum and the latter months of the primary, and at the least there would have been a contested primary.
  • Having Sanders drop out of the primary certainly Influenced the Election.
  • And instead of the Russians influencing our elections, we don't have to look any further than Hillary Clinton and the DNC.
  • Once again, the veracity and facts or the Wiki Leaks was never contested.

If Wiki Leaks didn't leak the DNC influencing the Democrat Primary would that have been a good thing for the voters to know? Of course it would, and if not leaked voters would have not factored that into their voting.

  • Because they were leaked, the Bernie Sanders supporters didn't vote for Clinton or Trump. They instead voted for Jill Stein, and Gary Johnson, and this can be verified by looking at the election results.

The Russians Didn't do anything to Influence the Election

If anyone still believes that the Russians hacked into the DNC servers, then why have they refused numerous request by the FBI to get these servers?

  • So too date, NO government agency has ever looked at the purported Russian hacked DNC servers.
  • Yet, the congressional investigation on Russian Influencing our election continues.
  • Why hasn't this investigation involved actually getting on the DNC servers?


As for the Popular Vote

How can Hillary Clinton, Democrats, Clinton Supports, and the DNC support two Contradictory Views.

Hillary Clinton won the presidency because she had 3 million more popular votes than Donald Trump

Versus

The Russians Influenced the 2016 presidential election and that is why Hillary Clinton lost the presidency

Please Comment if you can explain how they both can be True?

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    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      3 months ago

      The Russians sued Special Counsel and Democrat “fixer” Robert Mueller. And that poses a major problem for him.

      Because unlike low-level Trump associates, the Russians aren’t intimidated by Mueller. They aren’t worried about an FBI raid of any law offices, or having 29 G-men wake them up at 2 am with SWAT vehicles shining lights on their residences.

      With Mueller having no leverage against the Russians, he has only one defense: the Russians hacked me.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      14 months ago

      Wesman Todd Shaw

      I don't use Facebook or Twitter, but I can see from the congressional hearings that Facebook has problems because of the way they do "business".

      At the same time, what they do is similar to Google, and Twitter and yet they are not getting the same congressional scrutiny.

      I also under You Tube plays the same game!

      Keep those deplorable accounts running.

      I see problems here on hp. I can empathize how frustrating it is when bias is a factor.

      I like and agree with your PC comment.

      Thanks

    • Wesman Todd Shaw profile image

      Wesman Todd Shaw 

      14 months ago from Kaufman, Texas

      Yeah. And she's perfect for the job too. I've 3 perfectly deplorable accounts. Each of my accounts is is 'Facebook jail' right now.

      I mean I can keep out of being banned for maybe a week at a time at most. Then I have to go to the next account. More than once they've shut down two of my accounts on the same day.

      Thing is those PC dinosaurs don't see that meteor coming, and it is already visible if you look in the sky.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      14 months ago

      Wesman Todd Shaw

      Unlike the Mueller investigation there seems to be ample evidence to prove that Obama and Clinton were the ones using the Russians to influence not only the election, but trying to remove the newly elected Trump president.

      The oaths taken by the management of our intelligence agencies forgot the domestic enemies. Maybe because they were the domestic enemies.

      Did you hear the latest, HRC wants to be the CEO for Facebook.

      Thanks again for the comment.

    • Wesman Todd Shaw profile image

      Wesman Todd Shaw 

      14 months ago from Kaufman, Texas

      I'm hoping it can be proved that Obama himself had something to do with the wiretap on Trump, and this whole big stupid Russophobia thing.

      Nah, nobody will ever lock Sotero up, but if it is proved he tried to subvert the election and the elected POTUS, well, I'll be well pleased.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      14 months ago

      Westman Todd Shaw

      First, I have to say that I was very surprised that this updated article was featured? The test goes on.

      Back to Hillary, there is a myriad of Hillary Clinton scenarios including the reasons why the Trump investigations started.

      Two of the major reasons

      1. The Hillary Clinton and DNC paid Russian Dossier, which is a multi million dollar paid opposition paper. It was paid by HRC through a law firm. And this one really had Russians in it.

      2. The alleged hacking of the DNC computer by the "Russians" and not verified by any US agency. Only Crowdstrike even claimed to have investigated the DNC servers.

      Thanks for the comment.

    • Wesman Todd Shaw profile image

      Wesman Todd Shaw 

      14 months ago from Kaufman, Texas

      I suspect Hillary had something to do with Hillary's loss. Or it could be the Martians. It is hard to say.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      14 months ago

      Sanxuary

      I disagree it is totally political. And the proof is in my update.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Lolita

      I agree with you, and only the left seems to get investigations that have a dearth of evidence.

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      Sanxuary 

      2 years ago

      Every comment I listed has been on numerous news sites. Its also clear that an attempt to enter dirty money and influence the Democrats as well occurred. It was caught early and the money was returned to a Russian source. The truth is all forighn money needs to be elinated from our elections. Its also a fact that your own state Representative could be financed completely from outside of your own state. Did you know only 10 percent of americans have even donateded money for an election? If a Government official has violated the law or is in colusion with a foreighn power, the people of this country have a right to know and it must be investigated. If your God Trump is so innocent then an investigation should clear his precious name. This is not about party or politics to me.

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      LoliHey 

      2 years ago

      You know that people will believe anything, regardless if it is true. It could be legit debunked and they still wouldn't change their stance. I, for one, am sick of hearing about it. It won't go away.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Sanxuary

      I didn't see anything in your comment this gives any evidence to anyone, including the Russians doing anything to influence the election. If anyone tried to influence the election it was the democrats by fixing the democrat primary, and getting senator Bernie Sanders out of the way for Hillary. Sanders was on track to at least a contested primary.

      Also, as I have mentioned many times how can there have been any negative influence against Hillary Clinton when she have more popular votes?

      Also, why has no government agency actually gotten on the alleged hacked DNC servers. How do you have an investigation on hacking without actually examining the servers?

      Trump is innocent, and there is no reason for him to do anything. These are factless, allegations fabricated by Hillary and the DNC.

    • Ericdierker profile image

      Eric Dierker 

      2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I have always thought that Iran, NK, Russia, Mexico and China had a huge influence on how people voted. They were scared to death how HRC would handle those matters of State. And the fact that she had serious issues with her own Nat'l security made any campaign time breach of it a tipping point. Does it really matter who hacks her again and again and again?

      Yes it is clear that Russia influenced our election but not directly the way people think.

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      Sanxuary 

      2 years ago

      I am no Hillary supporter but the russian hacks had a huge effect and Comey's little we might have something was the finishing nail. It was clear in the hacks that Hillary was oppossed and did not care about the Evangelical vote and its said that Bill Clinton was extremely up-set when she did nothing after the hack to repair the damage. Bill believed she would lose with-out the vote and Hillary thought she was doing so well that she did not need it, then came Comey. Unknown still is how nice it would be to have a forieghn power finance your election and to fill the interanet with false stories. How happy would you be if the party you oppossed ran on nothing but foreighn money. If Trump is so innocent why is he not demanding an investigation to clear his name. I could careless about party on this matter and i think anyone who would reward a victory based on violations of the integrity of our election to clain a false victory is truly blind. Once you break the rules then you can never convict anyone again if they get a way with it. In fact it could only get worst. You may think this is victory today but it will destroy you later. All Supreme court Justices will be decided by going Nuclear and will be based on what party had picked the previous Justice. Its not about party and winners and losers. Its about governance and we are headed to no government unless integrity is restored to the system. Most of all what puzzles me most are the little people who think they will win anything by destroying our institutions and the laws of our land.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Mike

      As they say, "Follow the Eggs" :)

    • profile image

      Old Poolman 

      2 years ago

      I agree with both of you. It had to be the Easter Bunny. No other reasonable explanation comes to mind.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Pop

      Oddly Hillary and the left didn't mention that possibility?

      Could it be that the Easter Bunny is Russian?

      Thanks for the comment.

    • breakfastpop profile image

      breakfastpop 

      2 years ago

      I can't help feeling that the Easter Bunny had something to do with Hillary's loss.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile imageAUTHOR

      Brad 

      2 years ago

      Thanks for reading this hub

      I guess no one can explain how Hillary had more popular votes, and yet the Russians Influenced the election?

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