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Why Do The Republicans And The Tea Party Hate President Obama?

Updated on October 9, 2014

Why All This Drama Over Obama?

© 2008 VVeasey Publishing

10/21/09

Why Do Republicans and Tea Party Hate President Obama?

I guess more accurately the question should be why do some people hate President Obama? He was elected by a large margin of electoral votes so there are definitely a lot of people who like him. But that said! Why All this Drama Over Obama?

When he announced he was running for president, the secret service had to start guarding him about six months before they normally start guarding presidential candidates, because of all the death threats he was receiving. So the question is why is that? What had he done that was so bad that they had to start guarding him that early? Did he murder somebody, rape somebody, rob a bank, commit an act of terrorism?

No he didn't.

All through the presidential campaign there were people protesting his candidacy, calling him a traitor, a socialist, a communist, a Muslim or an Arab, (which to their minds were all bad things) but none of this was true! But they still persisted in spewing their hatred toward him and were not amenable to reason or the truth.


Drama At John McCain's Rallies

At some of John McCain’s rallies there were people shouting kill him! I can’t remember anybody at a political rally shouting kill a presidential candidate in my lifetime, no matter how unpopular they were! So again, Why All This Drama Over Obama?

What had candidate Obama done that was so egregious that it engendered that kind of intense hatred and hostility toward him?

When he became president the hatred and hostility didn’t stop, it intensified!


The Birthers

You had the so-called birthers attempting with all of their might to de-legitimize his presidency saying that he couldn't be president because he wasn't born in the United States. No matter how much data was examined or presented to show he was born in the United States, (birth certificate, announcement of his birth in two papers at the time) was not good enough for these people. It was all faked! The truth could only be what they fervently and bitterly believed the truth to be! They wouldn’t and probably still won’t accept anything less than what they believe to be true! Again, Why All This Drama Over Obama?

What do they have against President Obama? What has he done to engender that kind of hostile scrutiny from them?

Did Bill Clinton or George W. Bush have to prove they were born in the United States to be president?

No they didn't.


Caricatures of the president

At many of the so-called town halls meeting, angry protesters carried caricatures of the president as Adolf Hitler as well as other offensive racial images of him to show what a horrible person they think he is! But what had President Obama done to make them view him as Hitler or as someone who was the same type of person as Hitler?

Hitler killed millions of people, what had President Obama done that could be equated to what Hitler had done?

Let me answer that; nothing!


Obama is going to kill grandma

Then there was the healthcare scare. Obama is going to kill grandma!

These people just won’t quit! They want to de-legitimize his presidency and get him out of office by any means necessary. It was just one thing after another all summer long. Again Why All This Drama Over Obama?

As shocking as this may seem to some of you, there are some people in this country who just don’t want to see a black man be president of the United States. Or any none white person for that matter. But definitely not a black man. They say this is a white country and should be ruled or governed only by white people, preferably white men.

To these people (including some in the congress) President Obama can do no good. He could walk on water, bring the dead back to life, wipe out world hunger, bring peace to the world and they’ll find a way to find something wrong with what he did. Because it’s not about what he did. It’s about what he is.

All you have to do is type white supremacy into Google search or a search engine of your choice and read the contents of the various white supremacy sites. Or visit the Southern Poverty Law Center’s website, (they track hate groups) and those of you who don’t want to believe that in this day and age that the President’s race is the problem, will receive a rude awakening!

Of course not everyone who doesn’t like the president is a racist. Some may have legitimate political differences with him. That’s OK. They can disagree with him and have a civil discourse about it without spewing hate and hostility.

Some people don’t know that their negative racial feelings are fueling their fear and hatred of President Obama and would be mortified to think that they harbored any such feelings.

But, psychologically, when someone automatically experiences intense hatred, dread or other such emotions about someone they don’t know, it’s usually a sign that they have underlying subconscious feeling they aren’t acknowledging.

It’s like a phobia, where someone reacts to a fly as if it’s a grizzly bear about to attack them! Their reaction is out of proportion to the danger they’re actually in.

A phobia is a conditioned response, a subconscious alarm system that says, when you see situation or person A, trigger emotional reaction B!

People like this wouldn’t know why they have such intense anger or hostility toward President Obama, but may unconsciously project it on to something else about him, that would keep them from being aware of the true reasons for their intense dislike of him.

So again, why do these protestors have such intense hostility and fear of President Obama, that appears to be out of all proportion to anything he’s actually done? Why All This Drama Over Obama?


Stop Obama

The republicans, Rush Limbaugh and others' stated agenda was to stop President Obama from being successful. Not to try to make the country better, to help people or to try to create more jobs, but to stop Obama!

They don't give a damn about the country only about stopping Obama and they proved this by being against anything President Obama is for.

If they were for some proposal and Obama decided to adopt it, they would do an about face and reject a proposal that they previously supported because Obama was now for it!

Are these people really Americans?

Should they even call themselves Americans, if all they care about is stopping President Obama and be damn the country?

There's just something about a black man being president of a "white" country that just irks them.

So the question remains, what has President Obama done that was so bad that these people have all these irrational ideas, feelings, beliefs and hatred toward him? Why All This Drama Over Obama?

If you can see some other reason than his race, that explains why candidate Obama had to have secret service protection, six month before presidential candidates usually receive protection (and this goes for all of the points I’ve made). I want to hear it. I'd love to hear your comments!

In support of the point of this hub read the following


"My party is full of racists.

Oct 2012

The Republican Party is full of Racists

"Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, a self-identified Republican who was Gen. Colin Powell's chief of staff during his time as secretary of state, did not take too kindly to a recent accusation -- from Mitt Romney's controversial campaign co-chair John Sununu -- that Powell only endorsed Barack Obama for president because they're both black. Sununu would later backtrack, but the damage was done.

Wilkerson, who is white, didn't mince words on MSNBC'sThe Ed Show Friday night. "To say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Teresa worked for profit," he said. And although he gave Sununu a bit of a pass, blaming his statement on an "unfortunate" choice of words, Wilkerson had much harsher words for the GOP as a whole.

"Let me just be candid," he said. "My party is full of racists. And the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander in chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin. And that's despicable." from the Root webpage http://www.theroot.com/buzz/former-powell-chief-st

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      justme 222 9 months ago

      God help us all.!!!!!!!!!

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      justme 222 16 months ago

      I just wish you people would stop watching and parroting Faux news. Who do you think knows the Constitution better? Faux news puppets or a Constitutional Professor? I'm putting MY money on President Obama. Do you really believe that if he was violating the Constitution that the Redumblicans would not have impeached him by now. Stupid is as stupid does!

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      The Medicine Man 17 months ago from Detroit,MI

      oldwarrior

      thanks for you input oldwarrior

      Could it be that, as you say, "hate is a waste of time", for those who don't hate, but it's not a waste of time, for those who hate?

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      oldwarrior 17 months ago

      to the author. I just do not get it Vveasy,hate is such a waste of time intellect and energy

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      oldwarrior 18 months ago

      There i only one reason for the hatred Obama has experienced,and we all know what that is. No other President from either party has experienced the vitriol and obstructionism from day one. I have no doubt that if Mrs. Clinton is elected,she will experience the same,for no other rreason than because she is female.

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      god 2 years ago

      Republicans hate democrats for the same reason crooks hate the police.

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      Pollyannalana 2 years ago

      Well I voted for Obama his first term but quickly saw all this anti-constitution stuff he was up to so being a black man had nothing to do with my feelings for him and in fact I no longer consider him a black man and in fact he is half white and raised an Islam. He pretends to be a Christian which is the only religion he does not defend and does attack. If none of you can see how downhill he has take this country and the rush he is to finish us off before he is out of office then you are surely ignorant of what is going on in this nation.

      Look at all those Ft Hood victims alone how he will not call it a terrorist attack and those American service people are not even getting paid medical attention for their injuries because of Obama and two have committed suicide. The only people he reaches out to help are traitors like Bergdahl and terrorists he keeps freeing. Who could be so blind to see he is not on America's side for anything? I only wonder why someone does not stop him; I think Republicans (of which I am not one) are letting him get by with way too much!

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      The Medicine Man 2 years ago from Detroit,MI

      Edward J Tyndahl

      You should be the head, face and body of the Republican party!

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      Edward J Tyndahl 2 years ago

      I have been a Republican my entire life. I voted for every GOP Presidential candidate since Dewey,up until 2000,and was proud to do so,win or lose. But this goup of cartoon characters that have invaded my party are NOT real Republicans. I hate the way they have treated President Obama. I do not agree with everything he has done,but nevertheless,he is still MY President,and deserves respect. I especially am appalled at how they have attacked his family.

      Here is what I mean by cartoon characters.

      Take a picture of McConnell and post it next to a picture of Droopy the cartoon dog. Uncanny!

      Take a picture of Bobby Jindhal and put it next to a picture of Alfred E, Newman Amazing! Paul Ryan and Sleepy of the Seven Dwarfs,Louie Gohmert and a plucked chicken,Rick Scott and a Lemur,Ted Cruz and Joe McCarthy(well that is more scary than funny.)

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      Hey guys!

      If there ever was any evidence of how much the Repugnants hat thisPresident,it was this recent attempt to sabotage the Iran negotiations.

      Can you imagine the outcries of 'unamerican' and traitor' that would have come from theright if a Democrat had tried to pull something like that before the invasion of Iraq in '03?

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      big george 2 years ago

      Would love to see one of the Castro twins from Texas run some day,but I have no doubt Republicans would be just as hateful,especially with the name Castro.

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      The Medicine Man 2 years ago from Detroit,MI

      Well Big George

      I think that once President Obama is out of office. The hate machine will certainly, lose some fire.

      And, although I think, some people may have, legitimate, political grips against the President.

      I think the majority of the hate, will die out, because

      A Black Man, will no longer be, In The White House!

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      big george 2 years ago

      I have a question for the author. Soon the Obama hate machine will have no choice but to wind down. If Hillary is elected(assuming she runs) do you anticipate similar vitriol aganins her,or is this just about race?

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      Welcome Peter,to this site. So happy to converse with a real American hero.

      In my experience,(not nearly as extensive as yours,of course) people tend to gravitate to those who tell them exactly what they want to hear.

      It is not just conservatives either. There is a lot of goo that comes out of liberal sources too(like MSNBC) but if that is what you believe,and you wish your views to be validated,you will listen to those who will do that.

      Plus, yes Republicans are much better at distorting the truth. It is called the BIG LIE, and they are experts at it. Say it loud enough and long enough,people will believe it.

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      American Samurai 2 years ago

      I have a question for you folks. The hope is,that I might get a response from someone who regularly votes Republican,who is just an ordinary working guy.

      Why in heavens name,do so many white people,especially middle class and low income,vote for Republicans when it is so obvious that they could not care less about you? I am 93 years old. I am a world war two veteran(442nd Regimental Combat Team) In all my years as a participant in our system,I have never seen more stupid voters,who time and again vote contrary to their own interests.Is there an answer? Or is it just because Republicans are better liars?

      Peter Najima

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      @justme222 Nope have not had a word from stillsurfin,since before Jack passed away. Don't think he even knows about that.

      This is the time he goes to Hawaii,so maybe that has something to do with his absence. Yes,I had a very nice holiday,thank you. Hoping you did too!

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      just me222 2 years ago

      Anyone heard from stillsurfin? I surely miss his posts. Heinz57,thanks for your kind words.. Am making progress but it is very slow.. I'll get there. Hope everyone had a Happy Holiday season.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      @daniel Yes,I too was disappointed when the President signed that anti worker,anti retirement spending bill. Think our boy bit the big one on that score.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      @just me 222

      So happy to read you again,hope you recover quickly! Had a knee replacement two years ago,so I know it can be a real bear!

      What Super Grover said is nothing new,don't you know. Repugnants have been trying to take credit for all of POTUS accomplishments since day 1,an blaming him for all of their stupidity.

      Remember how they tried to pin the Iraq war on Obama?

      Personally,I think Grover should ask Oscar if there is any room in the garbage can. The guy is becoming less relevant with each passing day.

      Almost as bad as Louie Ghomert. ALMOST!

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      just me222 2 years ago

      Here is a new one,Grover Norquest is telling Republicans they should stop talking about the economy being bad and start taking credit for it being good. Really,Hey Grover,go back to Sesame Street!

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      just me222 2 years ago

      Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Sorry have been gone for 3 weeks,had hip replacement surgery. Finally able to get online and check for favorite people. Hope all here are well and had a nice Christmas.

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      aheinz 57 2 years ago

      Come on guys! where is everyone? Need new input! "stillsurfin" where are you? Hope you are enjoying Hawaii!

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      daniel 2 years ago

      I also am disgusted by the shabby treatment this President has received,but I would like some opinions on his recent signing of the spending bill,which,I believe threw the middle class,and retirees under the bus,just to pacify radical conservatives.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      If we can call a halt for just a moment,I'd like to wish you all a happy,safe,and prosperous THANKSGIVING.

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      big george 2 years ago

      Yes,I am convinced that if the Affordable care act,for example,had anyone else's name in front of it(Cruz,Bachmann,Palin,Bush) they would be hailing it as a triumph.

      If President Obama could walk on water,Conservatives would accuse him of being too lazy to swim.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      Rubber/glue wow! the Skeptic delivered a smackdown on that one! Never really thought of it like that. Went back to the tapes i had of the GOP response to Obama's ;04 speech. Skeptic was on the mark. Mark Levin called him 'dangerous to Americas future"

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      The Medicine Man 2 years ago from Detroit,MI

      I hope not! Skeptic!

      But that's more than likely wishful thinking!

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      Totalskeptic 2 years ago

      To the author; I have been following President Obama for a very long time now,starting way back when he was a State Senator,in Illinois.

      One common thread I have seen,is those who yell loudest about it "not being about race,it's about what he stands for" are the same ones who have been attacking the man,since he made that speech at the convention in '04, long before they knew how he stood on any national issue,except for the Iraq war.

      It seems to me,that the louder they holler they are not racist,the more likely they are. To quote the Bard,"methinks they doth protest too much."

      Over the last six years,all the horrible things conservatives have done to sabotage Obama they try to pin on HIM!

      Reminds me of that old phrase we used to use when we were children.

      I'm rubber you're glue,what you say bounces off me and sticks to you."

      Can these bigoted fools get anymore juvenile in their weak denials?

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      big george 2 years ago

      I meant I agree with redman. sorry,in the imortal words of Rick Perry,OOPS! (Heinz did make a good point too though)

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      big george 2 years ago

      winter; I agree with heinz57 I don't believe you are a Democrat,white or otherwise.

      If you were you would have thought twice about using those 'dog whistle' comments.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      Anyone who actually believes that the new Republican majority is really going to do anything other than obstruct the President,is suffering from delusions,and living in a cave,on another planet.

      There will be no movement on immigration,gun safety,tax reform,equal pay,the minimum wage,education,nothing.

      What will happen is more tax breaks for the rich,gutting the social safety net,turning Social Security over to Wall Street,more money for bullets and bombs,and impeachment,impeachment,impeachment.

      The goal of the Republicans in Congress is,always has been,and always will be,to wipe Barack Obama off the pages of history.They want the nation to think he never existed as President.

      The welfare of the nation be damned.

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      Redmanrising 2 years ago

      Black people are sexier? Seriously,show me that science.

      That statement is promoting a stereotype,that has scared white people for over two centuries. STEREOTYPE!!

      I think you are trying to subtly trying to hide your own racism. Or trying to bait people. I do not think you believe anything you said about the President.

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      Winter 2 years ago

      As a white Democrat, I LOVE Obama. But I think I can tell you why so many white people don't. Racist white people have aggressively tried to suppress black people in succeeding at anything, tried to call them "inferior", etc. for many years. Then at some point we (whites) realized that black people are stronger than we are. They're better at sports. So OK, let's let them have that. We can allow them to be better at sports, because we can't deny it. We can call them stronger, but we get to say that we're smarter. BUT....black people are sexier. They produce more hormones than white people. Black men produce more testosterone (probably why they're better at sports). This is a scientific fact, but not widely known. I wonder why. Then we get a black president and WHOA! The suppressed hatred comes to the forefront. Why? Because now a black American man holds one of the most powerful, prestigious jobs in the entire world. And he's @#$# good at it, too. He's smarter than white people!!! He's a Harvard graduate. He's got nerves of steel. He's handsome, charming, slim, trim, and athletic. And you know what? White folks - a certain type - are JEALOUS. Ragingly jealous. I really can't see another reason for it. That's why jealousy is a deadly sin.

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      big george 2 years ago

      Jimmy. I am so glad you find the FACTS so funny.There is nothing the author posted that can be construed as anything but factual. You have a very strange idea of what is funny.

      Of course I do to. Rush Limbaugh is funny. Correction. Rush Limbaugh is a bad JOKE

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      Jimmy 2 years ago

      Funniest article I've read in a long time.

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      proud vet 2 years ago

      Another brother in arms,gone too soon. Another Patriot taken from us

      We will remember you Jack!

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      just me222 2 years ago

      Thank you for letting us know of the passing of your Uncle and also for your kind words. I enjoyed his comments and am very sorry for his passing. May he rest in peace and my condolences to the entire family. You will surely be missed Jack.

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      just me222 2 years ago

      So sorry to hear of your loss. Thank you for letting us know. Loss of another veteran too soon. Thanks to all Veterans on this Veterans Day,and as Heinz57 stated "gonna miss you Jack.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      Gonna miss you Jack! God Bless.

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      The Medicine Man 2 years ago from Detroit,MI

      Thanks Terry for passing along Arizona's wishes.

      Very sorry to hear of his passing. Although we didn't know each other personally. It was always a pleasure interacting on this hub with him.

      I have and had nothing but respect for him. May he rest in peace.

      vveasey

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      Terry 2 years ago

      First,please pardon me,if what I am about to say,diverts from the subject matter of this site,and for the length of it,but I must say this,and the reason why,will become clear at the end.

      My name is Terrance Turner,and i am the nephew(his sisters son) of Hugo Jackson MacCubbin,the person who became known to people who contributed to this site as "Arizona Jack" just under a year ago.

      It is my sad duty io inform you that uncle Jack passed away on November 6,after a decades long fight with the long term effects of vital organ deterioration,from exposure to Agent Orange.

      Uncle Jack was,along with my father,not only one of my heros but an American hero as well,though he never spoke of it.

      We were a very tight family. Uncle jack and my dad served in the same outfit,but at different times,and they married each others sister.

      Uncle Jack received two Purple Hearts,a Bronze Star,a Silver Star,a Distinguished Service Cross, and a Presidential Unit Citation. Another medal he got,that he was especially proud of,was when a squad from his platoon jumped into the DMZ just north of Plieku,to rescue a downed Navy pilot. He received the Navy Cross for that. His pride stemmed from how unusual it was then,for one service to honor a member of another,at that time.

      After his service ended,Uncle Jack invested in a Wendy's franchise,and bought six more over the years,and made numerous other investments,all of which are now being shared by his family. Not bad for someone who never got more than a GED.

      Politically Jack was slightly left of center,and worked on the campaigns of former Governors Bruce Babbitt,and Janet Napolitano.

      He was a member of the American Legion,and the Vietnam Veterans of America. He also volunteered at the local V.A. Hospital,and was a regular financial supporter of the Wounded Warrior Project,Disabled American Veterans,as well as the ASPCA,Sierra Club,Nature Conservancy,St Jude's Children's hospital,and Brewster House,a shelter for battered women.

      I write this not to praise him,even he deserved much praise but to let you all know what kind of life he led.

      That brings me to why I am writing here. He asked me to.

      He knew he was dying some ten months ago,and in looking for something to lift his spirits,he found this hub.

      He came to "know several contributors,and asked me to write to each one personally,and tell them what they meant to him.

      To: "Alex drinks H20, "I know we did not agree on hardly anything,but you should know how much I admired your zeal and eloquence in standing up for your positions."

      To: "Just me 222" "Your command of the language and your passion,intrigued me,and gave me no end of pleasure"

      To: "Heinz57" " I love the way you pull no punches,and you are funny as hell. Haven't laughed so much in years."

      To: "stillsurfin" "The Fact Master"! "You are a World Book Encyclopedia with legs!" "If there was ever to be a Secretary of "splainin' stuff" you,not Clinton would be it."

      To "Vveasey" 'You make me so proud to be an American." Stunningly Brilliant!"

      Uncle Jack said that his greatest regret,was that he would never be able to meet any of you face to face.

      I would also like to extend to all of you my personal thanks for bringing joy,humor and passion into my uncle's life in his final months.

      Sargent Major Hugo Jackson MacCubbin,101st Airborne Division,3rd Rangers U.S.Army,will be buried with full military honors on November 11,2014,Veterans Day,next to his wife,my Aunt Rebecca,who was also a veteran(Army Nurse) and his eldest son,Roland,who died in Iraq.

      I wish you all well.

      Terry Turner

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      MzB 2 years ago

      Based on the Republicans behavior over the last 6 years, I'm convinced that they hate anyone that doesn't look like them, think like them, act like them and agree with them, period! Especially, if that person is in a higher position then them.

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      The Medicine Man 2 years ago from Detroit,MI

      Checkout this article that dovetails with the premise of my hub: click the link and scroll down to the article. "The real problem with Americans and their disrespect for Obama—according to a Canadian" http://qz.com/293555/the-real-problem-with-america...

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      @FMJ Did you ever notice when Bush spoke of extremism,he used the term 'Hitlerism"? He could not bring himself to use the word "Facist" because he is one.

      All this hate speech against our President,and the phoney accusations and lies come mostly from one source. Right wing media,Limbaugh and Fox News in particular.

      You can't blame people from believing all that trash if that is all they watch or listen to.

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      FMJ 2 years ago

      It makes me sick, this is one of the greatest Presidents in history accomplishing more than anyone ever thought he could in record time. If these people would just wake up and see, it is the relatives of the republicans that worked for Hitler and were Nazis. No one even seems to know that and think you are lying to them when you tell them. If is awfully funny that we always have to have a democrat come along and clean up the mess after a republican, but when will they figure that out??

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      oldtimer 2 years ago

      Hey mort,it was not obama that tanked our credit rating it was House Republicans who shut down the government because Obama would not cowtow to their my way or the highway attitude.

      Fact. Bush did more damage to this country than any President since Buchanan. He will not go down as the worst though,because he was not President Cheney was. Bush was not smart enough to be so sneaky.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      I don't know abut the greatest,funckman,but I do know that history will redeem him the same way it redeemed Harry Truman,who was seen as the worse ever after leaving office.

      his accomplishments will be hailed,especially when people see what he was up against

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      CaptainBLacQ's-Post Up! 2 years ago

      Look way back for the Real Reasons of "Hate" of Minorities and women in this country... Why it took so long for African American to be able to "Vote" *** PLEASE *** READ *** article *** below !

      John F. Kennedy addresses the nation about Civil Rights on June 11, 1963

      The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[7] in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments", as well as "greater protection for the right to vote". Kennedy delivered this speech following a series of protests from the African-American community, the most notable being the Birmingham campaign (sometimes referred to as the "Childrens' Crusade") in which students and children endured attacks by police dogs and high pressure fire hoses during their protests against segregation.

      Emulating the Civil Rights Act of 1875, Kennedy's civil rights bill included provisions to ban discrimination in public accommodations, and to enable the U.S. Attorney General to join in lawsuits against state governments which operated segregated school systems, among other provisions. However, it did not include a number of provisions deemed essential by civil rights leaders including protection against police brutality, ending discrimination in private employment, or granting the Justice Department power to initiate desegregation or job discrimination lawsuits.[8]

      Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Among the guests behind him is Martin Luther King, Jr.

      First page of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

      John F. Kennedy addresses the nation about Civil Rights on June 11, 1963

      The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[7] in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments", as well as "greater protection for the right to vote". Kennedy delivered this speech following a series of protests from the African-American community, the most notable being the Birmingham campaign (sometimes referred to as the "Childrens' Crusade") in which students and children endured attacks by police dogs and high pressure fire hoses during their protests against segregation.

      Emulating the Civil Rights Act of 1875, Kennedy's civil rights bill included provisions to ban discrimination in public accommodations, and to enable the U.S. Attorney General to join in lawsuits against state governments which operated segregated school systems, among other provisions. However, it did not include a number of provisions deemed essential by civil rights leaders including protection against police brutality, ending discrimination in private employment, or granting the Justice Department power to initiate desegregation or job discrimination lawsuits.[8]

      Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Among the guests behind him is Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      Funkman53 2 years ago

      He Exposed The Hypocrisy of The racist Republican Party and It Bled over to the Nation.WeAll knew was Racist but never talked about it or Acted upon it. Not Untill Barack Obama who with Integrity and Dignitny Proved to the World Especially American That a Black Man can Lead a Nation Proving Centuries and decades of The White Buracratic Power White Elitist wrong . He Proved no matter how they tried to set up the President to Fail that He Beat them at their own game and exposed them foe who they really are. I Love This President and He will Go in the History as the Greatest AMERICAN President Ever

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      Mort 2 years ago

      Here's my take on the fundamentally left leaning forum: Sorry. Don't buy it. The people I know, and I know a lot of people, don't like his policies. Period. They are socialistic at best. Race has nothing to do with it. Of course you will always have some ignorant bigot(s) but that is not the majority and I'd like to see actual statistics to prove it or it is just here say. The Tea Party and GOP were targets of the IRS. Why? WHO was behind and had knowledge of it? I'm sorry, this man's hands are far from clean. They are all a bunch of bureaucrats. It is a fact that the POTUS is the worst president statistically speaking in our history. Sure Nixon was pretty bad, Carter stunk the WH up and Bush had his flaws as well but under this administration this country has lost more than just it's triple A rating. We have all gone down this road before concerning his blatant lies and arrogance. Sometimes I think I live on another planet. He claimed his administration would be the most transparent in history?? Really?? Where? He told Congress "We won get over it." I don't give a hoot what party he is from, what gender or color the POTUS is. I DO care how he leads or doesn't for that matter. The fact the people refuse to see these obvious facts makes me wonder who the racists really are.

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      Slick watts 2 years ago

      The bottom line people Obama doesn't run this country nor do your congress. Less then 1% controls the whole entire planet just to name a few try Koch Brothers,Rothschilds,Forbs,Rockerfellers,The Trilateral world Masonic organization Better known as the Masonic Temple or masons The racism you speak of is anyone that bring a change or do something a little better then someone else that will maybe get moved up into a higher position or take that away from someone that had that opportunity is a threat so the object is how do in get rid of this. call control

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      rolling thunder 2 years ago

      @sally train

      As a Native person,I must agree with your assessment.

      After turning Europe into a festering,fetid sewer,the paleface took sail.

      Wherever he landed after that,he brought his filthy habits,his diseases,his lust for war,destructiveness,and his lust to kill the Creators Masterpieces just for the fun of it.

      It pastie face who is the epidemic on this planet,not Ebola.

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      YOLO 2 years ago

      Why Do The Republicans And The Tea Party Hate President Obama? Hhhhhmmmmm? Because he's black and smart, because he gives the black community and any people of color hope that they too can be president and finally become a real part of the American dream. Pub & Tea want to keep things always tilled in their favor. How come people don't see their hatred for what it is Racism. Its funny how everybody trys to dance around this issue.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      @ McTheory You are right about that.There is no arguing with,and no cure for stupid, either.

      have no idea why my last comment was posted twice. Sorry for wasting space!

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      correction. I attributed the comment that voters are stupid and gluttions for punishment to oldtimer. It was ordinary joe who wrote it

      my bad.

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      Heinz57 2 years ago

      correction. I attributed the comment that voters are stupid and gluttions for punishment to oldtimer. It was ordinary joe who wrote it

      my bad.

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      heinz 57 2 years ago

      @lone77star If anyone is a traitor,it is the GOP in the House. Dereliction of duty,deliberate sabotage of the recovery,ignoring the will of the people on nearly every major issue,Conspiring on day one to obstruct,without compromise everything the President has tried to do,no matter who got hurt(meaning we the people)

      If anyone thinks that the new Republican majority is suddenly going to get reasonable and start doing what is good for the people,instead of attacking Obama,they suffer from delusions. As has been said before by others,GOP means Get Obama Party. That is all they care about.

      Obama's use of his executive authority,first,is only half of what Bush did,and second is NOT unconstitutional.

      Funny hoe the House wants to sue him for using executive orders,but insist he use them to solve the recent border crisis with all those kids.

      Sounds like the Repbus. were trying to bait him,to me.

      Finally ,if all this hate is not about race answer this.

      Name another President that had to prove he was born here.

      Name another President that has been so vilified,disrespected and insulted.

      Name another President that has had his family attacked

      Name another President that was given a religious litmus test.(Obama is not Muslim,but even if he were,that would not disqualify him.)

      Name another President that has had more death threats,and needed Secret Service protection,on the day he announced.

      The Evil Empire is the Koch Brothers,and their shills in D.C, Pat Robertson and the born again hate mongers,who would turn America into an oligarchic,Christo Facist theocracy.

      'oldtimer' is correct. Voters are too stupid to know then they are being abused.

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      talkn2u 2 years ago

      This article was dead on, but I still didn't see any reason given for all of the viciousness against this President. I know what the answer it. I just didn't see it here.

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      ann 2 years ago

      Boehner and the Republicans could care less what the People have spoken. The People spoke six year sago and the People spoke two years ago and now Boehners hears what the people have spoken bull shit Boehners is a s. o. b.

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      Rod Martin Jr 2 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

      I dislike racism. We're all human. We're simply people.

      But I didn't vote for Obama because he was semi-black. He was smart, smooth-talking and spot-on with his rhetoric.

      Come February after the election, I learned I had made a big mistake. Obama was worse than Bush. He made breaking campaign promises into a new art. He not only renewed the unPatriot Act, but he signed into legislation even more draconian tyranny. Obama works for the Corporate Party, just like every president since Kennedy, and many before Kennedy.

      When Obama said of the prisoners at Gitmo that they should stay there indefinitely, even if found innocent, I knew we had a demonic puppet in the White House. When we found out he had a Kill List which included American citizens on it, I knew America had been lost to the greed of the Corporate Party.

      When Obama won a Nobel Peace prize before he had done anything of note on the world stage, I knew something was fishy with this silver-tongued devil.

      When the national debt skyrocketed from 10 Trillion to over 17 Trillion in his first term, I suspected that America was merely a coffin awaiting the final few nails.

      The power of the Corporate Party and its News Media is that they know how to play our Egos like a symphony. Those psychopaths are the same ones who gave us 9/11 and then blamed it on the Muslims so they'd have justification to take on the Middle East.

      Obama is white with a little black thrown in. He's black with a little white thrown in. He's a mix. But he's also a traitor. He has continually shredded the Constitution he swore to defend. Now, it's a felony to protest under certain circumstances. One university student was arrested and tazed for asking John Kerry a question about his past. America has become the New Evil Empire. And Obama is merely one of the front men for the psychopaths in charge.

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      Mic Theory 2 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Racism is a psychoses a mental illness and you can't fight mental illness with facts!

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      ordinary joe 3 years ago

      i am not a republican or a Democrat. I am not a liberal or a conservative. I am just a working stiff,who votes for whoever I think will represent my interests,and will actually listen to my concerns. Therefore as you might guess,I have been very disillusioned of late. However I do not blame the politicians. I blame the downright stupid voters,who keep sending these self centered ideologues back to Washington D.C. every two and six years. I really believe that the American voter is simply a glutton for punishment.

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      Arizona Jack 3 years ago

      @oldtimer Thank you for your candor sir,truth is,if the President was Hispanic,female,Asian, Native,Jewish,Muslim,Atheist,or just a generic Democrat,these Republican impersonators would be doing the same thing.

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      oldtimer 3 years ago

      I don't know why it has taken me so long to chime in here,and I regret that. All that said,let me say,I am a life long Republican(I voted for Tom Dewey,in 1948) and a Conservative. I am very disturbed at the direction my GOP has taken over the last six years in particular. I simply do not understand all this hateful talk about President Obama. Especially,since it started long before he was elected,almost from the day he announced. Any conservative with the gift of common sense,can understand why Democrats and liberals think this vicious personal attack is about race. In 2007,there was nothing else about Obama to complain about,since we did not know anything about the man. All this talk abut his not being an American,being disloyal,and being a Muslim has to end. Especially the attacks on his family. It does the Conservative cause no good whatever. Obama is a citizen,and a loyal American. He is NOT Muslim,and even if he was,it is not relevant! There is no religious requirement for public office.I happen to know Congressman Keith Ellison,of Minnesota. He is African American,and a Muslim. I do not agree with him on much,but he is a brilliant mind,a solid American,and a dedicated public servant. Plus he is a damn nice guy. Six years of this vindictive stuff against Obama is enough. Protest his policies,point out his failures and weaknesses. Okay those things are fair game. But stop this personel vendetta. It hurts the party.It hurts the country.And please my fellow Republicans. STOP listening to those extremists who have hijacked our Party,be they in politics or the media. they are not real Republicans.

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      Heinz57 3 years ago

      @neojm I agree,but only in part.There must be laws or there will be chaos. What you SEEM to be advocating is anarchy. 1)Who would not want to buy health car? Up to now,most people could not afford it. Either their boss did not offer it,or even if he did,wages were so low,the worker could not afford to buy into it.2) Selective racism? show me where fullfilling the promise of the founders for everyone,would hurt the privileged class. FYI . Some places DO have unisex restrooms. Why women do not open doors for men(many do,especially if the man is loaded down. I know,women have done it for me. However that point is irrelevant and more than a bit petty to your argument. I would point out more of your nit picking,but wasting time tires me.

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      neo jm 3 years ago

      All legislation is about is control - Control of the masses by an empowered few.

      Republicans are simply an arm of this control group just as the democrats are a control group.

      There is no meaningful infighting beyond smaller group profiteering and securing of power before the next election.

      Think about it-We the people have few rights and are virtual slaves to the government in many ways.

      - you Can NOT truly own your home or property in the USA! Why, because even with the deed and no mortgage you must always pay property taxes. If you do not then the government forecloses and takes it back.. Therefore technically everyone leases or rents no one owns.

      - now with ACA rules you must by health insurance or risk fines and worse. In 2016 and later years it’s 2.5% of income or $695 per person. You'll pay whichever of these amounts is higher. Please do not pretend you can’t see the incredible loss of freedom associated. The IRS controls these fines via your income tax, so eventually not paying them will be seen as not paying your taxes in full and you will suffer other penalties.

      - now old laws are being intentionally mis-enforced to remove more of our or right to work freely. IRS/ DOL specifically targeting high income contractor to reduce their allowable wage is way that may increase tax revenue with the client companies profiting handsomely via their high benefits mark ups.

      - selective racism, sexism and sexual orientation rights have never been more muddied. If LGBT was so important with so much liberal support then Why do we still have “men” and “women” designated restrooms? Why don’t college and high school kids shower in same locker room and shower stalls regardless of gender. Why don’t more women open the doors for men?.. why is it preposterous and automatically a serious offense for educated white male professionals to have an exclusive organization similar to The National Conference of Black Lawyers? .. Answer is that all of these special interest groups were about power not justice.

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      arizona jack 3 years ago

      Well,guys,I have no doubt that conservative extremists,Tea Partiers,and Limbaugh,Joe Walsh,Joe Wilson,Allen West, and the haters at FOX are crying in their 12 year old Scotch lamenting the fact that the White House intruder DID NOT get close enough to stick the President with that knife.Take heart nut jobs! No doubt someone else will try sometime over the next two years.

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      heinz 57 3 years ago

      I wish I could accept your challenge,Jack but I can't. Thanks to right to work laws businesses of all sizes where those laws prevail are now like a brood of newly hatched chicks. Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!

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      Arizona Jack 3 years ago

      Big corporations just love right to work,and at will employment laws(which often go hand in hand) which give employers almost dictatorial power over the lives of their employees."I will not pay you what I know you are worth,take it or leave it." I know some disagree. Some will say that right to work gives workers the freedom to chose union or non union,without the obligation of paying union dues. Think,for just a moment. What union do you know of that will accept a member,give them all the union protections and benefits,for free?If anyone can prove to me that Right To Work legislation,is about anything BUT union busting,and stifling of wage growth,and opportunity,I would welcome it.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      Jman,

      Well, it appears that we do agree on one thing.

      Modern American Society IS being manipulated by the Corporate Oligarchy using the Politicians they “own” to do their dirty work, regardless of political party.

      BTW, I do appreciate that after having seen the facts you have modified your opinion slightly to:

      "Guys, I am not saying Obama is only to blame”

      From…….

      "A secret Obama Administration “attack” “

      :)

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      jman 3 years ago

      Good feedback again- Thank you.

      The employee vs contractor test stillsurfin kindly shared is interesting. Not terribly accurate to my situation as even true independent consultants working only from home or small businesses in small independent office that work for 3 or 4 different oil & gas operators at the same time would NOT pass all the test questions.

      However my complaint definitely is a “secret conspiracy” violating American’s right to work freely by the government for the following reasons:

      1. It is a secret! No media coverage, no newspaper articles. Having oil companies like Shell, Talisman, multiple other firms including engineering and placement firms all firing or converting their employee / contractor base to the DETRIMENT (ie: lower overall compensation for the worker) of the skilled worker and not publically stating why? Chevron & Shell middle management is terrified of publicity from ex-contractors should they complain because the IRS ordered them to keep quite as part of the deal. I know because one of them privately told us so.

      2. This covert, illegal move is not helping or benefitting the people directly affected. If this were a good thing for say 80+% of those affected by keeping their wage AND adding medical and vacation benefits then I could see it and be less alarmed. Yet if that were the case the government would publicize this move of forcing big companies to simply not hire independent contractors. That is NOT happening. Instead converted work wages drop significantly. If the worker get say $15,000 worth of new benefits then the wage drop is well over $30,000 annually.

      a. The form of the change by the government IS to approach the bigger firms and say. “Don’t hire anyone other than bonafide “W2 employees” as workers directly or indirectly or else we will punish you. Same goes if you share this order publically”

      3. The law form retaining for the small engineering company that shared details on this change also indicated why the IRS joint task force is working this odd approach by attacking the employers vs changing business law and simply not allow 1 or 2 man small companies that don’t “pass” employer test criteria like stillsurfin shared. I mean simply removing tax advantages would be much more effective and fair way to deal with this issue? The reason is the senator and congressmen have multiple small businesses on the side themselves that are ~ independent contractor based entities. They don’t want to outlaw their own secondary form of enrichment. So this “keep the sheep-people in check by not letting them follow suit” approach is being used.

      Guys, I am not saying Obama is only to blame. For what we can see this removal of the right to work freely is a bipartisan activity with ties to big business.

      Be careful what you try and justify on this and other topics. Remember back during Nazi Germany many intellectuals supported Hilter even during the concentration camps and oven activities. This was because they didn’t want to have accidently backed something so monstrous and the best defense to this was to simply not believe the hard truths. The American government is not necessarily any better or moral or ethical regardless of who is heading it up. This worker rights assault that profits big business and governemnt tax revenue is an example.

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      Rolling Thunder 3 years ago

      Jack,I do understand your feelings. I to feel sad about the plitical and social civil war that is taking place in our country,between those who wish to see the vision of the founders fulfilled for everyone,and those who would see the nation not only stand still,but go backward.The viciousness of the attacks on POTUS over the past six plus years,he proliferation of white supremacist hate groups,since he took office,and the stagnant mind set of the Tea Party and others,who do not allow for any dissent, and pillory anyone who does,makes me afraid for our future as a nation.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      yep, that's the truth.

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      Arizona Jack 3 years ago

      @stillsurfin "Which is probably hard to do,if one already hates President Obama." I would say you are being kind To my way of thinking,it would be near to impossible.I must confess. It really breaks my heart to see certain groups of people,who have one goal and one goal only. To create an atmosphere of division and hate. In all my years of following politics,I have never seen so much hate directed at one man. Even the Dubya haters were not as vicious.And it will only get worse. If the Republicans take the Senate,rest assured there will be another Ken Starr style impeachment witch hunt,With Daryl Issa right in the middle of it. I have never seen so many people so willing to surrender their will,their lives,and their ability to formulate thoughts and ideas of their own,to a media propaganda machine.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      Jack,

      yes, her comments are much appreciated.

      And, I do have to say that I do feel bad for her and her friends who are being affected by the effort by the States and the IRS to enforce the proper classification of Intependent Contractors.

      I'm sure that it has been very hard and probably shocking to see this crack down on employers seemingly coming out of the blue..... especially when it has been the "norm" in the oil and gas industry for decades where she has been working.

      And, the "timing" of happening during Obama's presidency could lead to a "perception" that it was his doing.

      But, this where it become necessary to be "objective" and not jump to a conclusion, belief, or opinion without gathering all the facts ..... which is probably hard to do if one already hates President Obama.

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      Arizona Jack 3 years ago

      @Jman I very much respect your most recent comments to stillsurfin.Even though we may disagree I enjoyed the back and forth,even if it got a bit heated,which I really do regret.I spent over twenty years in the Army(twenty active,nine reserve) standing up for a citizens right to express themselves,whether I agree with them or not. I wish you well.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      Jman,

      I’ve done a little more research and also talked with a friend of mine who is a Corporate Attorney and is very experienced in Labor Law.

      My friend says there no evidence whatsoever of any “secret" government attack on Independent Contractors and I’ve found nothing that indicates any credibility to any "conspiracy" of that sort.

      What is happening is that there is an “overt” and “public" effort by many States AND the IRS to crack down on EMPLOYERS who have been illegally misclassifying workers for years……. which should have been done long ago.

      Yes, there is no doubt that there are a number many “innocent” workers who have been working as Independent Contractors in the past that are being affected by the effort …. “innocent” in this context refers to workers who were unaware of the rules for being classified as an Independent Contractor.

      You and your friends may be some of those “innocent” Independent Contractors.

      But, the vast majority of those “innocent” Independent Contractors should never have been classified as an Independent Contractor in the first place.

      Interestingly, Big Oil Companies have been one of the most egregious industries that have been breaking the law and misclassifying workers for decades …… so, you’re right that you and your friends are now feeling the affect.

      A simple “test” to determine if an employer can classify a worker as an Independent Contractor is in the link below:

      http://www.edd.ca.gov/pdf_pub_ctr/de38.pdf

      In this case it is a California State link, but almost every state has the same info.

      And, if you want to see many more just type "Independent Contractor rules" in any search engine .... and you'll get hundreds of links to the 20 questions to determine if a worker can be classified as an Independent Contractor.

      The link above is written from the Employer's perspective, because the employer is the one that can be subjected to big fines if they fail to classify a worker correctly.

      But, there are many more written from the worker's perspective too.

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      The Medicine Man 3 years ago from Detroit,MI

      stillsurfin

      I just saw her comments and see them up above. I just approved them as not being spam.

      For some reason Hubpages flagged them as being spam and that's why they weren't showing up.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      Well guys, sorry this post is going to be a little long.... but, when aren't my posts long right :)

      Vveasey made the comment "But I'm not going to go back and forth commenting with them because I think it's a waste of my time."

      That struck a chord with me.

      There are many Americans who Hate Obama with a religious-type fervor and use a Hate-Obama-Belief-System which is based on Myths (not facts).

      This root of this hatred is more often than not because he is black (or as Rolling Thunder points out half-black).

      But, I've always held out hope that even those with "myth-based" Obama Hatred could see "reason" - if facts and truth were presented that obviously debunked the "Hate Obama Myths" that their Hate Obama Religion was based upon.

      I was on the verge of finally just giving up forever providing "facts & truth" to those who have an unreasonable Hatred for our President and believe he is ALL BAD and out to "get them"

      Since we had not heard from Jman I assumed once again facts and truth had fallen on deaf ears and vveasey's statement of all this being a "waste of time" was making too much sense !!!

      Then an unusual thing happened.....maybe, just maybe....the "shining light" of FACTS and TRUTH does have a chance !!!!

      I got the following message from Jman:

      Hi Stillsurfin,

      This is Jmandy from hubpages. Apparently veasly or hp has blocked my further responses on the Obama / Tea Party hub. I had replied earlier saying "thank you" since your input filled out significant background material I was not aware of. Although I tried to add a bit more illustrating the "cover story" use of the GAO study and how to date all contractors both low and more highly paid have lost out by way of overall compensation not to mentioned right to work infringement ...

      Anyway, it appears that hubpages is censored when unpopular or non-party line truths or issues actually get debated. Since this “right to work freely” issue directly impacts myself and others working at big oil companies I am really looking for a way to help address and redress the issue versus just complaining or blaming.

      By the way, I do enjoy debating and review our different perspectives and respect you for your passion and intellect on the subjects. Believe it or not on at least some of your points I do listen and perhaps even amend my thoughts on the subject.

      If I can make time I’ll try an post a hub myself and then perhaps free speech on any subject can be held again.

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      Rolling Thunder 3 years ago

      @Heinz57 Very astute observation,and uproariously funny! Back to the basic premise of this site. "why do Republicans and the Tea Party hate President Obama?" The most common response is,'because he is black." Well,I submit,it is not because he is black,but because he is only half black. To Ted Cruz and his daddy,Bachmann,Ghomert,and others who live deep in the Valley of the Super Bigots,that is an even bigger sin. Remember Joe Walsh? The guy who lost his seat to Tammy Duckworth the war hero,after just one term? I actually heard him call the President "Zebra" Enough said.

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      me 3 years ago

      Great Feedback!

      Thank you Stillsurfin and all on the feedback regarding Government ‘s attack on contractor work /right to work freely issue.

      I need to read through more of links but it does look relevant and factual.

      However that initial GAO work about employers pocketing money they should not have may well be the “cover story” to explain way the real intent of the current move.

      Actually I don’t care much which political party anyone wishes to blame.

      Many of us felt the Republican’s were involved as well considering the secrecy and media blackout involved in the RECENT “worker conversion” process.

      Thousands of folks at contract companies like Brunel (http://www.brunel.net/jobs?Country_nid=39320 ) and Swift (http://www.swiftworldwideresources.com/candidates/... ) either lost their jobs or were forced to take “much” lower paying jobs as W2 staff against their will. This occurred ~ 2012 and 2013 from what we can tell. If anyone cares to call those companies and ask recruiters some will share that with you.

      I do Care that of the 64 contractors I worked with last year in my clients office that only 12, including me, remain but remain at high risk of having to leave soon strictly because of this Government move.

      Others in my office took lower paying staff jobs with benefits doing the same exact work in the same office against their wishes.

      Others quit and now work for smaller companies against their desire since the DOL/ IRS task force has not “threatened” smaller firms much yet. Two instead went overseas to work and leave the country.

      These are real changes affecting real people real time. From what I can see innocents are being pushing and penalized while those in lower tier contract jobs are seeing limited or no “help” from this move. All that happens is the job type is converted to staff then given benefits with lots of extra fees thrown in resulting in lower overall pay for the supposedly “helped” worker in this job. Typical failed execution to help the people by the government if you want to see it from one point of view. Or you can say this was all pre planned and done to further enslave, indoctrinate and control all workers and keep them working longer and harder with less compensation. Either way, the people lose and the elite win.

      This is Jman. But my comments -these comments- are no longer being posted for some reason. Probably a liberal sensorship reason..

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      jman00001 3 years ago from Texas

      Great Feedback!

      Thank you Stillsurfin and all on the feedback regarding Government ‘s attack on contractor work /right to work freely issue.

      I need to read through more of links but it does look relevant and factual.

      However that initial GAO work about employers pocketing money they should not have may well be the “cover story” to explain way the real intent of the current move.

      Actually I don’t care much which political party anyone wishes to blame.

      Many of us felt the Republican’s were involved as well considering the secrecy and media blackout involved in the RECENT “worker conversion” process.

      Thousands of folks at contract companies like Brunel (http://www.brunel.net/jobs?Country_nid=39320 ) and Swift (http://www.swiftworldwideresources.com/candidates/... ) either lost their jobs or were forced to take “much” lower paying jobs as W2 staff against their will. This occurred ~ 2012 and 2013 from what we can tell. If anyone cares to call those companies and ask recruiters some will share that with you.

      I do Care that of the 64 contractors I worked with last year in my clients office that only 12, including me, remain but remain at high risk of having to leave soon strictly because of this Government move.

      Others in my office took lower paying staff jobs with benefits doing the same exact work in the same office against their wishes.

      Others quit and now work for smaller companies against their desire since the DOL/ IRS task force has not “threatened” smaller firms much yet. Two instead went overseas to work and leave the country.

      These are real changes affecting real people real time. From what I can see innocents are being pushing and penalized while those in lower tier contract jobs are seeing limited or no “help” from this move. All that happens is the job type is converted to staff then given benefits with lots of extra fees thrown in resulting in lower overall pay for the supposedly “helped” worker in this job. Typical failed execution to help the people by the government if you want to see it from one point of view. Or you can say this was all pre planned and done to further enslave, indoctrinate and control workers and keep them working longer and harder with less compensation. Either way, the people lose and the elite win.

      Anyway again, great feedback thanks.

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      heinz57 3 years ago

      Here's food for thought,have you ever wondered why so many conservatives like NASCAR considering all they do is move constantly to the left?

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      Arizona jack 3 years ago

      Almost 24 hours and still no response from the Doctor! What a surprise. Probably too busy raking in all that extra revenue from Medicaid expansion and all those newly insured folks who have never had it before.

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      jake 3 years ago

      You are so right,proud vet. If the kind of disrespect(to put it mildly)shown to President Obama over the last SEVEN years,I count the campaign,was shown to any Republican President,Conservatives would be tossing temper tantrums,and calling that person unAmerican. Just as they did to anyone who came out against Bushes dirty little war.

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      proud vet 3 years ago

      All I ever hear from the far right,is our hate for Obama is not about race.But their words belie. It IS about race. It's ALL about race.

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      Heinz 57 3 years ago

      @Dr. Jean Other than the garbage propaganda you have been seeing and reading from the Tea Party and Fake News Network,what proof do you have that the President is a Muslim? Exactly what freedoms has he abused,other than perhaps your freedom to be a hate filled bigot? Explain the vitriol he has been the target of,before you and your ilk,even knew who he was. Plus,I would really like to see you answer Arizona Jacks question.

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      Arizona Jack 3 years ago

      @Dr. Jean Reno Ten you wonder why conservatives are seen as narrow minded. You see and hear only what you want to see and hear,and nothing more. Just because Rush Limbaugh says it,does not make it gospel. Hey DOCTOR! How much extra revenue are you going to generate for yourself from Obamacare that you hate so much?

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      The Medicine Man 3 years ago from Detroit,MI

      Stillsurfin

      Yep that's hilarious!

      I only check this hub once and while and don't usually like to comment, but sometimes, when I see someone post something so hateful and stupid.

      I will comment and hopefully hold up a mirror, that shows them that, although their self-absorbed hatred and disrespect for President Obama, makes them think they are saying something "intelligent" how painfully stupid and self-serving their comments really are.

      But I'm not going to go back and forth commenting with them because I think it's a waste of my time.

      I leave that for you with the facts and others who don't mind doing that.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      vveasey,

      :) LOL

      I always find it "interesting" when a human (I’m assuming) like dr. jean reno above (a psychologist ? hmmm) posts lots of words without a single fact to support their nasty opinions and beliefs.

      Yeah.... every morning when he wakes up .... the President of the United States punches himself in the white side of his face and tries to bite his own Caucasian ear - he hates the whiteys so much.

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      The Medicine Man 3 years ago from Detroit,MI

      You think President Obama hates his white mother and grandmother who raised him and the "white" part of himself? Hahahahaha!

      The hatred, disdain, and disrespect you express toward President Obama makes you exhibit number one, of the very thing you're upset and commenting about only in reverse

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      Dr. Jean Reno 3 years ago

      Actually, the bottom line is that if you are dumb enough to have to ask this question then it is highly unlikely that you are smart enough to understand the answer.

      However, for myself, the question is not and never has been a question of Barry Soretoro-Soabarka-Obama and HIS race it has only ever been the simple and undeniable fact that Barry hates Americans and especially white Americans--his every action, every word and even his body language is nothing but a whole-sale condemnation of that part of America that has built and shed blood and for the freedoms he abuses each and every day.

      With his strict muslim and marxist upbringing there is no mystery about the origins of his hate and the hate he shares with his wife, nevertheless as a psychologist I can say unequivocally that it is a normal component of human nature NOT to return affection for ill will or love for hate. Consequently, what anger and fear you see expressed by persons you label as anti-Obama are the reaction to his hate and disregard of white Americans and, therefore, do NOT fit your knee-jerk definition of racist since those opinions are a reaction to Barry's effrontery and a valid judgement based on what they see of him and NOT any preconceived, and therefor racist, opinions.

      The actual fact is that Barry Soetoro, his wife and a good number of his staff and appointees hate America, hate Americans and hate especially white people (I suspect) of any nationality.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      justme,

      I hope a few "facts" isn't what would drive her away. But, you never know.

      I thought it would be very interesting and enlightening to see how she responds and reacts to facts she may or may not have been aware of ..... which provide history, context, and background about the subject she is obviously concerned about.

      Jman,

      I just provided the facts, data, and credible sources that you could consider relative to your current belief and opinion.

      And, hopefully I haven't offended you in the process .... if so, I apologize.

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      just me222 3 years ago

      Ok,I suggest that we get a posse and go look for jman. We can start by checking the Faux News viewers. Surely a few facts would not chase her away,do you think?

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      Arizona Jack 3 years ago

      Wow! this stuff is just a bit too deep for this crusty old Non Com. I think I will sit this one out. Jman. Any remarks I have made previously that offended you,pleas accept my apology.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      BTW, If you curious WHY the States pressured Congress and the Obama Adminstration to act on the 2009 GAO Recommendations - there are some basic reasons.

      Many States were not getting the payroll tax revenue they were supposed to get to help with Unemployement insurance and other Expenses.

      State Legislatures were also getting pressure from "Honorable" Companies who were doing the right thing and classifying employees correctly ... which resulted in higher operating cost for them.

      Dishonest and unscrupulous Employers who miscclassified employees as Independent Contractors did not pay the State Payroll and Employee taxes that they were supposed to and that gave them an "unfair competitive advantage" over Honest Companies.

      When it was just a few Dishonest Companies it was in the "noise" level... but the problem over the last 40 years has become significant with rampant abuse.

      A classic example is the State of South Carolina.

      The State of South Carolina did an audit from 2011-2013 of a number of South Carolina Companies and found that about 12 percent of all the companies audited misclassified employees as Independent Contractors.

      12% is a huge number and represented a big problem for South Carolina.

      A good article from the State of South Carolina that explains it much better than I can is below:

      http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/07/3664301_indepen...

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      oops. sorry, I hit the wrong cut and paste.... I had already provided the 1977 GAO report on the subject earlier.

      What I meant to provide was th 1979 GAO report which was missing above.

      So just to be complete:

      http://www.gao.gov/products/109909

      Yeah, it's funny this "attack" on Independent Contractors was started by the US Congress 37 years ago when President Obama was 16 years old ....but, somehow it's still Obama's fault today.

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      just me222 3 years ago

      Thanks,your reading material always interests me. But,I like facts. Thats Justme.

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      stillsurfin 3 years ago

      Just me,

      :) yeah facts are really inconvenient things for some folks.

      Oh, if you're really interested in some late night reading..... here is the 1977 GAO report on the subject.

      http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO/GGD-77-88

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      just me222 3 years ago

      You know stillsurfin,you just don't get that those ugly FACTS get in the way of their hatred for that scary black guy in the White House that is not the butler! And oh how they love Rush Limpdick and Faux News..