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I like this answer. Well thought out and reasonable. I wonder though, is it possible to take the best from ALL systems when Capitalism is based on competition and Socialism is based on Co-operation. Definitely voted up.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I'm inclined to vote up well argued answers whether I agree with them or not. This one I voted down.
Fair enough on the comment. I'm used to an open forum where one can speak ones mind about a related topic without necessarily answering the question itself. I'll try to directly answer the question in the future.
I wish there was a way for me to vote up that "Fair enough" comment. Thank you for joining the discussion.
What a great reply, Attikos. I appreciate the people who make me think about why I disagree with them. I have never met a Socialist who believed in rule by an elite. I always thought that is a capitalist idea. control by destroying the competition.
I'm a socialist and I don't believe in rule by an elite!
That is the biggest problem that I have with the present system, it is most definitely rule by an elite.
Very true. One of the problems dealing with socialism, and its evil twin, communism, is that power tends to concentrate, and it makes it harder for the people to have an active voice in, leading to abuse and revocation of rights. Kudos.
Thank you Josak. When discussing Socialism it seems that the failures are the ones that come to light. TomBlalock's point is that Socialism and Communism deprive people of an active voice. Is that true?
To ianto: Often communist and socialist governments have deprived people of free speech and other liberties but I think that is more the product of tyranny when you have dictators they tend to abuse power, that is not part of socialism though.
Thank you Lawrence; May I ask you to clarify slightly. You seem to be saying that a case can be made for the Socialist ideal but not for the Socialist society. Do I have it right?
In theory these societies make sense, everyone is equal and gets an equal share. But in practice, this is never the case as those who are in charge corrupt the entire system and the elite get much more than their fair share.
Just out of curiosity, are you talking about marxism and utopian communism as a form of socialism? I ask because certain countries like Norway have a mix of capitalism and socialism that seems to work quite well.