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Just to say I voted you up:) Now I want to go have a bath and wash & colour my hair for a breakfast tomorrow with all my brothers for Mother's day and all our birthdays. A girl must look fresh & attractive hey:)
The difficulties that attractive might face were a discussion topic on one of our South African radio stations last week. You can be pretty and sexy but not pretty and clever and good at your job? or something like that?
This is a very wise statement and one that we must teach our children.
It is true but it is about social conditioning through Gender Power Relations and it is up to women in partnership with supportive men to bring change. This is why we need women's groups and safe spaces where women can discuss issues and grow.
To find that trusted team hey:)
Neutral, as far as it goes, is linked with equal human rights for men and women.Some can't seem to see that:) We build on each others' lives.We hope that the next generation will be stronger, do better, go further; save the world and the human race:)
Neutrality is only possible once the group identity is eliminated and people truly think of themselves as individuals. Equality as a concept is actually unobtainable because there will always be differences among individuals that make them unequal.
Intention goes a long way:as I said 'as far as it goes'. Equality and equity are what you make of it as the person in the stronger position, as a group with more power. If you deny that power then you are unable to drive societal change.
:) I can't and don't want to comment on American specifics but I voted you up for the differentiations that you made about the manner in which women are targeted. We do not have to support an ideology to recognize ABILITY:) and to be decent to others
@feenix:In principle you are right but it's still women generally and the women within various groupings that are more disadvantaged."A man's world" "A woman's lot."How long is it that women can own property, sign contracts or be her father's heir?
The little arrow sits in the tail hey, and in the rhythm. A little dance, a jig, with the warning that she is not part of the brotherhood and will not get favours because she is a girl the way men look out for other men:)
I think with all the commenting you have done and your own answer proves the point of the poem perfectly. Anytime the term "equality" gets used, it is generally used by people seeking favors as an excuse for a perceived injustice.
:) It is not perceived that the face of poverty is female across the world; or that women have to queue at welfare for child maintenance while fathers are absent and negligent. It is not a favour to expect equal return for equal work.
So now you wish to bring the biological issue into play when it suits your argument? I grew up having one of those negligent and missing fathers, my mother didn't use it a crutch though in raising me and my brother.
Your mother's struggle and successes excuse all men? And did you not raise me the biological and whatever differences between men and women? Do these differences make one less & the other more human?
So all men are then to be blamed for the failure of some? See two can play that game. Also, I didn't state anyplace that differences in biology makes one more or less human. So don't put words in my mouth that were never stated.
You are a writer, student and a teacher and yet you only personalize things? This is not about you- it is about the status and struggle of women in a male society and which you exemplify perfectly! I invite you to study gender and women's status.
Around 10% in business and politics and as MDs or CEOs count as many? Or is it that that is enough?
Compared to what Zero centuries and decades ago? What are you after 25%, 50%, 100%? When will it finally be "equal" enough for women to think that all of a sudden this is no disparity between men and women and "equality" has been reached?
The numbers are only a representation of inequality. Equality is about justice and equal Human Rights: recognition of personhood.
Which are covered by what are known as Individual Rights. Individual Rights and "Human Rights" equal the same thing. Person hood and being human resides with in the individual, not the group.
Keith:) We kind of heard these kinds of arguments presented in these ways as justifications for Apartheid and oppression and innocence thereof. They were declared Crimes against Humanity & are central to the oppression of women.Societal groups ex
I am happy to see that a valuable question drawn huge and positive discussion across the board.
Hi tomjoseonline:)It is about the legal systems and the social constructs in which the individual has to perform hey:)
Your fascination with and complex on how white males are "keeping women down" shows your on hypocrisy. Instead of focusing on the "inequality" aspect of "white males" how about focusing on many of the Arab countries were the problem really exists.
:) The Arabs still do not run the world:)They are not even in that top ten or so families that do. But why not address your question to the UN? They are the specialist researchers in this matter:)
Newsflash not one single group runs the world, not white males, not Arabs, not blacks, nor Asians. Part of the issue you are stuck on is equality of outcome an impossible matter to achieve with out extreme measures taking,equal poverty as a result.
I should perhaps write an essay and specify western, eastern, African? Poverty wears a woman's face everywhere. why?
In South Africa we have already sorted out these debates and points and won the day officially and legislatively and have law to pro
First, thank you for the comment on my post. You mentioned that many women are on the men's team. I think you are right. The issue I have with some forms of feminism is it looks at women as just men with breasts. Psychology & evolution shows that
@- ibbarkingmad :) I am not the armchair kind of commenter. I have worked on political teams and in elections and on gender power relations and power struggles. I share what I know with an opinion or two added:)This stuff are all in our constitution!
I figured you weren't. For some reason my whole comment didn't post. To finish the thought. Psychology & evolution shows that men & women are unique. True equality will only be achieve when both can respect the other for who & what they a
@ibbarkingmad: Limited space for replies:) Agree- respecting differences, accepting diversity, according human dignity, meeting needs and advance aspirations:)
When a strong woman holds office she tends to consider the well-being of the country and the family in her decisions:)
Women are nice people? Who have you been hanging around? Women can be just as mean, cruel, criminal, cheating, and irresponsible as men. Perfect political material.
This is the expression of a sexist social expectation of women to be 'nice people'? To not rock the boat? They will you know, in the end they will and dump you out:)
Social structures for political and economic power are stacked against women. This is historic and not deliberately done by men today. Men must learn to recognize those constructs and to change them.
Catherine the Great, Queen Elizabeth the I, Cleopatra. So, Hell the current monarch or England is a Queen. Once more you keep on going on and on about how men are trying to keep a "woman down" in the modernized world this isn't the case. Juststopit!
Keith Engel: are you saying that everything that women worked for in South Africa and achieved is rubbish? Our national constitution is irrelevant? The most advanced constitution and charter of Human Rights in the world is of no account? Really?
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