my kids rarely talk about god or jesus and I find it kind of strange. the only reason they mention god is because their grandma will bring them to church every few months but they don't really know what it's for. I find it so refreshing and it gives me a reason to think maybe religion is going away.
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this is insulting to atheists/agnostics who are genuinely good people- Prayer and religion do not make morals. If that were the case you wouldn't hear of preachers going to prison for fraud or priests molesting kids.
The supreme court in 1962 ruled that Secular Humanism is a religion. The schools certainly aren't shy about imposing their religion!
I don't see much of the Acceptance, Adjustment and Appreciation of others opinions by claiming that my answer is insulting. My response indicated that morals changed and with those changes came changes in behavior as well.
You're entitled to your opinion - so am I. Just because I don't agree with you and find what you said insulting doesn't mean I don't accept or appreciate your right to your opinion. People can agree to disagree so stop turning my words around please.
It is apparent to me that you do not understand the difference between a scientific theory and a theory in the general layman sense of the word. A theory in science is something that has been proven based on evidence, not some arbitrary guess.
I know many atheists with morals who would do the right thing and many so called "Christians" who are all about "me" so I disagree with religion being the cause of declining morals. Our society has gone downhill, but it isn't due to no prayer.
I agree entirely about hypocritical Christians, and I didn't mention prayer. I meant we've thrown out moral teaching at the same time as religious teaching, through some sort of political correctness perhaps. It's as if it's cool to be heartless.
I can see your point here. It would be good to teach proper behavior and empathy if we could do so from a non-religious perspective certainly. totally agree
Exactly! The only schools that can teach religion are private ones, and the majority of kids in America go the public school. Atheists always seem so desperate to trash religion rather than just living with their own lack of faith and being happy.
My son has been taught to love his neighbors as himself because it is the right thing to do, not to please a diety. We have separation of church and state for a reason and plenty of non-religious parents teach their kids right from wrong just fine.
Faith based beliefs do not have a monopoly on morals, nor do they set the standard for them. Rather, religion hijacks morality and claims ownership as if it was their idea. There's a difference between morality and promoting unsubstantiated beliefs.
I doubt that we will ever outgrow a need for religion. Scientific reason is a wonderful tool of the human mind - but there will always be things beyond its reach. I don't think religion is dying - just Christianity. I'm not religious, by the way.
You can be scientific and spiritual - the two aren't enemies. I just don't think the need for a "diety" is what is truly necessary. Spirituality and connectedness does not require religion so no, we don't need it, we just need to evolve.
I'm not saying everyone should embrace religion - I don't myself - but nor am I convinced that rejecting religion necessarily reflects evolution. Religion doesn't guarantee that you are a caring, decent person, but then neither does atheism.
I agree neither path guarantees becoming a caring, decent person. I just don't see a need for religion because I think it keeps us as a whole from improving because we can blame God/Devil without accepting personal accountability.
I disagree, I don't think anything is ever out of reach, except maybe things that don't exist. I don't presume something exists until I there has been tangible, testible evidence to support it. There's as much evidence for God as leprechauns.
I agreed with your first comment, but Christianity not allowed? My son is brow beat constantly by evangelical kids in the public school. They ask his religion he tells them none and they pick on him mercilessly - not very Christ like.
I would say that religion is going away, slowly but surely. We live in an information age that the ancient world did not have access to, the scientific method was not developed.
Enlighten us. How did the world begin? Because I promise you that your beliefs on creation are challenged by other competing religions. Science examines evidence to draw its conclusions, not stories written down a few millenia ago by the superstious.
Most evidence that has been erased by time is what they study. They might get the rough outline, but I doubt anyone will ever be 100% correct about anything relating to creation.
You are right of course. But if it's entirely 'people are people' and it's all down to the individual's choice, why do different cultures have such widely differing values and ways of behaving toward others? Where do values come from?
If you went to Africa I'm sure they'd have a completely different behavior towards each other than in America. They don't live like we do. Values just come from what has been passed down to us but as individuals we choose what we want to follow.
I'm not sure how many really choose. They just go with the crowd. What I'm trying to get at is, why does the younger generation appear to be abandoning the values that have lasted many generations? And is that inevitable or good?
Also, I think we tend to over dramatize today in ways we never did before. TV & Media is all about shock value, Most of what I see on TV my neighbors would never do. I think we suffer more from skewed perceptions than true lack of moral fiber.
Kids have always acted out, past and present. I also think tv does have a lot to do with why we think they're worse now than before. Just like the bus monitor story that happened recently, that's nothing new, that happens everyday...
I agree the values of TV have changed a lot over the last few years. They show bullying, cruelty and humiliation as entertainment now. Do you think this is the main cause of the change in values, rather than schools not teaching values?
Possibly, values were never taught when I was in school and there were still your well-behaved and miss-behaved students so no it being taught in school has nothing to do with it. It's like I said, kids are kids there's going to be some that act out.
Mazzy, yes I think the media has more influence than a lack of teaching it in schools because media is SO pervasive these days.
I don't think beliefs are a "choice". Beliefs are formed either by indoctrination or being presented with evidence, or just a compelling argument. But we don't choose what we believe because then that doesn't make it a belief if you can turn it off.