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No not in so little time, but this has been a process guided by presidents for the last 100 years. Obama just may be the one to fulfill our destiny towards dictatorship. This is how dictators start. Remember Hitler was elected to office.
That may be true, but if after 100 years, this is as far as they have gotten with the idea, I'll start worrying in 2312.
It takes generations to change and teach public values. It's fine though, most system collapses happen without you ever knowing it is coming. We are doing the same thing the Soviets did. It is coming.
You make a good point IDONO, but I think we need to let government know that they aren't fooling anyone. Obama needs to be called out for what he's doing wrong and held accountable for it.
Yes starting a dictatorship. There are many countries that didn't have dictators that do now. For example, Iran was a Republic before we took over their government and installed a dictator.
Candidates who receive millions of dollars from Goldman Sachs, passing laws contradicting the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and take powers they are not allowed to have are all signs that the above statements could be true.
You're right. Retardicans should be every bit as civil toward Obama as demwits were toward Bush.
Since only Congress can pass laws and it would take a combination of Republicans and Democrats t pass laws contradicting the Constitution and Bill of rights, just what are you referring to. Your problem is not the president, its the Congress.
Larry, Obama writes executive orders. Which are laws. He isn't supposed to use executive orders for writing legislation.
Executive Orders can not direct agencies to do something illegal or unconstitutional, are open to judicial review, and can be revoked by future Presidents. There have been like 8,000 of them since FDR (who wrote over 3,000 by himself).
They are all unconstitutional. There supposed to be used for moving troops not writing laws.
Page, he is what he is you hang around with marxists you are a marxist Bernadine Dorn, the "new Black panthers Bill Ayers, these people hate the US as it is almost as much as OBL, truth-hurts huh.
The argument is that the authority for EOs comes directly from Article II of the Constitution. They are NOT laws. They have the force a law. It is different. They are meant to carry out duties of the Executive Branch.
Yeah I agree, it is hard for people to distinguish the lies.
I'm not picking on you SB. It's interesting. However, I believe people in general listen to the partisan media analysis of a speech rather than the speeches themselves. Therefore, cheating themselves from creating their own opinion.
I'm not feeling picked on IDONO, I like the discussion.
I don't think the CIA writes his speeches. He does read them off the prompter, and you can always tell when he goes off script (that's when the bloopers occur), but they come from speech writers at the white house and campaign headquarters.
I'm not saying Obama is a dictator, I'm saying it is moving in that direction. He is taking powers that a president shouldn't have. Even though people pay more attention to Snooki, it isn't like we have much of choice, leaders are put in place.
For every hour spent watching our reps in action or spent watching reliable news there are probably 1,000 hours spent on reality TV. That's a choice forced on to no one. All of our leaders have a very long list of people who gave them their vote.
The people we vote for r were chosen by corporations.
I don't vote for anyone chosen by corporations. I encourage everyone I can not to do so. That's all I can really do.
What about Obama assassinating American citizens without due process, or the military arresting citizens without a trial? Invading countries without consulting congress. Signing executive orders, sounds dictatorial to me.
What about Lincoln's closing down the free press, his mass murder of Indians at Mankato, his forcing conscription which led to the New York Riots which ended when troops opened fire on civilians? That sounds pretty tyrannical to me.
Your right Sue, I agree, he wasn't as great as people depict. I can accept it if I'm wrong, and I hope I am wrong. Times are different now, and with a dollar collapse coming the govt is going to have to control the people with a dictatorship.
The founders didn't seem to be happy with the idea of Democracy, I also think Plato's quote fits perfectly in my question, since we are considered a democracy, and it looks like we are going towards dictatorship.
All presidents before Bush have been following the trend. Hitler was elected, I'm sure the people didn't think he would turn into a Fascist dictator
Hitler was not elected but appointed as Chancellor. He also wrote a book long before outlining exactly what he would do and how he would do it, no one should have been under any illusions.
Actually he was elected by the Austrians with 97% of the vote., but you are correct, Josak, Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Do you think he wouldn't have been elected if it came to that in 1933?
Your right at the moment I can't compare Obama to Hitler, but it is going in that direction.
As josak says Obama hasn't written a book where he advocates the genocide of most of the world's population.
I don't like Obama or Bush, but you lose credibility when you make such wide-eyed comparisons.
Rickylicea, "when fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jackboots. It will be Nike sneakers and smiley shirts. Smiley-smiley." George Carlin
In my opinion the president isn't the supreme leader of the country. There are supposed to be checks and balances and he his not following them. So a president who takes power into his own hands is not following our form of government.
SportsBetter the President is the leader (I do not think supreme is needed) of the country. Congress has considerable authority, but is too caught up in partisan politics to be effective, so the blames falls on the president--it has happened before,
I'm not blaming the president I just don't agree with him taking powers he isn't supposed to have. But he has made things worse.
Thanks for backing me up and telling the truth.
Was there truth in weapons of mass destruction? Was there truth in jobs being created with golden shower economics? Was there truth in Cheney's secretive energy policy? Is there truth with the skewed views of the Koch brothers? I rest my case.
I hear what you're saying, Pages, but it's obviously out of control with Obama and your statements only show more clearly the magnitude of the situation. Obama isn't exonerated because other Presidents did similar things.
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