Some preachers say the average person cannot understand the bible unless someone gifted with biblical insight decodes it for them. Limbaugh appears to be saying the same in terms of conservatism and politics. He scours the daily news and translates it into conservative context for the weak at heart who are scared by the power of the mainstream media. I used to call him a spin-surgeon but now I call him a political prophet.
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Not angry (at whom?), not paranoid (about what?), he;s a blowhard and condescension is his TM. He's there 4 facts, not to promote discussion. His show is to showcase HIS ideas. His is to foster debate, but NOT ON HIS SHOW. He can do what he wants.
His "facts" are laughable in most cases. He's a hypocrite that once called drug addicts the "lowest forms of life" when he himself was one. I'll look for my own facts. Any moron can scream their ideas - not factual or valuable to discourse.
There are facts and interpretation of facts. I think what you don't like is HIS interpretation which can be abrasive, bellicose and hard on the ears.. Look 4 your own facts; most don't take the time to look UNBIASED at facts.
You are right teamrn, most don't take the time to look UNBIASED at facts, they listen to blowhards like Limbaugh.
exactly Justsilvie - I get info from multiple sources - too many people listen to idiots like this as though they were the answer instead of searching for themselves. SCARY.
ChristinS, Not enough people get their own facts from independent news. They get news from the 'Today' show and read the'New York Times' (after all, aren't they purveyors of 'all the news that's fit to print'); then figure they've done it al. NOT !
I agree not enough people read independent news. I personally do - and Rush Limbaugh isn't a news source - he's a pundit and his opinion is no more valuable than anyone else's because he happens to be a legend in his own mind. He's a pig - sorry.
Time Traveler2...You call him.with 100% accuracy. Anytime I am unlucky enough to see him in a news clip, I think, "One pop to his obese belly and there goes all his hot air." Without that, he will no longer exist. He is a disgrace to humanity.
I disagree. The show is owned by Rush who has sponsors who keep him on despite criticism. Rather than his going to bed, is there a reason you don't tune him out and change channels? Easy solution: If you don't like what he says, CHANGE CHANNELS.
His comments/controversy are publicized & Unavoidable. If you cannot accept varied opinions w/o being cocky/rude, do not ask questions open for comment.. If your intention is to insult those who don't believe as you, become a preacher. Not nice
I sill think that although Rush is often a rude and obnoxious boor, i get ideas: like ''his is happening,' then I go out and do my own research. Form opinions based on info I get from Rush? NO. Research? YES..
Very abrasive personality and can be condescending. Own agenda, is owned by NO MAN. He's a blowhard, but I respect facts.
Sounds like you bought into his political rhetoric, my friend, and are enjoying the "conservative" ear tickle performed by old man Limbaugh. What term does Rush use to describe people with this condition? Sheeple :0)
Whatever Rush's listenership (I'm not sure about the 50 M figure). it far exceeds the anemic sum of all of MSNBC shows combined: there must be a reason for it. Is it possible that he has a message? THink. Numbers don't lie.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. :0)
CJ, what are a few examples (SPECIFIC) of those lies?
teamrn, I don't care if Rush were making one hundred billion dollars and half the world listened to him...that doesn't mean he is a truth teller or make him a good man. What he has is a great podium and a big yapper from which to spew his diatribe.
ANYONE who makes a ludicrous statement such as, "numbers don't lie.?" has earned my deaf ear....Utter FOOLISHNESS.! Good Bye. Won't discuss with 4-year olds.
CJ. I NEVER said Rush Limbaugh was a truth teller. I said that he had quite a listenership, so there must be a reason; what is it? As far as my being a bigot-what makes u say that? Typical liberal accusation when someone disagrees" BIGOT" Sad, sad.
CJ Sledgehammer- I think your getting a little too personal, remember nobody knows it all.
CJ, I can't help but notice that any time I've asked for specific examples of lies that have been told Specific 'untruths'.
teamrn: First off, I never called you a bigot. Secondly, Rush's whole position is one of disingenuity. His grand lie is leading millions to believe that Republicans are good and Democrats are bad, but all the while hides who the real scoundrels are.
CJ, " A fact may be true or it may be false. It is a fallacy to conclude that all facts are truthful." CJ, A fact IS BY IT'S VERY NATURE, A FACT AND TRUE. A fact has been fact-checked and is beyond ANY doubt, TRUE.Nothing will change my b-day. FACT.
Incredibly well put. Rush puts it out there, uncensored, takes the attacks by the LEFT AND THE RIGHT. But, I bet the man can 'sleep at night' knowing that he wasn't compromised by allegiances and told his truth.
Of course "he sleeps well at night".....Most drug addicts pass right out and sleep for hours.
CJ,," So, what would you think and feel if you found out that Rush has been lying to you all along?" When will u understand; Rush doesn't tell me anything-gives me ideas that I, Annie research to figure out my OWN take. I'm never spoon-fed pablum.
Rush; prophet??Heck no.. But he calls 'em as HE sees 'em and is beholden to no one. Women do listen because they are paying more for groceries, bills, gas with NO JOBS.
about his cat... She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught
I couldn't agree more women who listen to misogynists like this creep do none of us any favors. He's a disgrace.
He may be misogynistic at times, but I'm much more than my ability to have children. I buy the groceries with less money, I put gas in the car with less $, I have an unemployed husband, the daycare for the children is an expense that is increasing.
teamrn I understand that life is tough for many at the moment, but how does a man who has absolutely no respect for women help us in any way?
He doesn't have to "help us" in order to do his thing. In America, we don't license public speech on the basis of any given party's view of what is a public good. No one is forced to listen to Limbaugh. No one should have his choice of it taken.
Attikos no one wants to take his freedom of speech away, but we don't have to listen to or accept what he spews nor accept him as a credible source of information.
You certainly don't, but who are this "we" who keep coming up here? There's a whole lot o' switchin' among pronominal indefinites goin' on. I'm curious about that.
Justlive, "how does a man who has absolutely no respect for women help us in any way?" Is Rush Limbaugh supposed to HELP US? Whatever happened to helping ourselves and since when do we ask radio talk show hosts for help?
As in we I mean "the people" Attikos. His ilk are into divide and conquer not anything positive. But it may be personal I have an aversion to bullies!
I just reread, "weak at heart who are scared of the power of the MSM." The MSM should have no input info forming our opinions; they should REPORTI the news, period. Journalists should not analyze. When Tim Russert died, journalistic integrity died.
The views you're expressing do not represent "the people," Silvie, though they do demonstrate a point I was making in another post in this thread. I think you for that.
I just saw this, CJ, " A fact may be true or it may be false. It is a fallacy to conclude that all facts are truthful." CJ, A fact IS BY IT'S VERY NATURE, A FACT AND TRUE. A fact has been fact-checked and is beyond ANY doubt, TRUE.
So, in your book, all "facts" are beyond ANY doubt? So, who is checking the facts? How can you be sure? Likely, the only facts you find are factoids that have been left behind for you to find. Some say macro-evolution is a fact...are they right?
I'm sure you're including Andrea Mitchell, Chris Matthews, Gwen Ifill, Martha Raddatz, Candy Crowley, G. Stephanopoulos for space reasons.. Rush doesn't lie to me, He gives facts. I research them. He's not the conservative Pied Piper.
where do you research these alleged facts? The "fact" is he's a mouthpiece for an agenda and he's brilliant at leading people astray. CJ has it right on the money about all of these pundits.
Wheree do I research? A little bit of NPPR, Politico, MSNBC (particularly Morning Joe), National Journal, Health Affairs, Fact Check, FOX, Wash Times, Heritage, Chicago Trib.Federal Review, The Hill, Krauthammer, C_SPAN and the Economist:
Yes, teamrn, I refer to them all. Yes, Rush does give you the FACTS, but he does not render the TRUTH. Please understand that people can give factoids that have nothing to do with truth. A fact is a commonly held belief that may or may not be true.
CJ, are you saying that FACT, depending on who says it. IS TRUE or NOT TRUE? What is true for the goose is true for the gander. FACT IS FACT. When you say 'render' do u mean interpret? INTERPRETATIONS of fact, vary, but the facts don't change.
teamrn: A fact may be true or it may be false. It is a fallacy to conclude that all facts are truthful. I believe Rush and Oberman, to name a few, leave little factoids here and there and to those who follow them religiously...trust their findings.
CJ, I just found it interesting that you completely did not answer WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC LIES that you hear. Not things that you disagree with, but BOLD FACE LIES.
My thinking is that Rush is a bit too partisan when he spins. I like him because we share the same ideology, but there's more. He provides an element to his commentary, which is CRITICAL THINKING, an ability that many Americans have lost.
Rush does not critically analyze...he reads from a script. He says exactly what he is supposed to say to a specific demographic. Make no mistake about it...Rush is a Pied Piper along with the rest. He tantalizes and tickles your ears for a profit.
Critical thinking is essential if civilization is to progress instead of simply drifting along. Without critical thinking humanity becomes like a school of fish with conservatism fighting to take control of it's sense of direction.
".... Without critical thinking humanity becomes like a school of fish with conservatism fighting to take control of it's sense of direction." Why conservatism fighting? External forces like money, greed, power, lust, bloodlines, guillotines, Rome..
teamrn: I am a devout Christian "conservative". Having said that, I do not practice "Republicanity", which is my coined-term for those who believe the Republican party is their new savior. Christ would never endorse any political party, nor do I.
CJ Sledgehammer, Thank you for the very nice compliments, but most don't reach my age without knowing that there is usually more than meets the eye, and rare is the slam-dunk!
I call it like I see it, teamrn, and I think you are of noble character. Just please be careful who you follow and who you trust. I tend to believe that anyone who is on the radio, in the papers, and on t.v., cannot be trusted to divulge the truth.
CJ, FACTS by their very nature are indisputable. I can't say that it is FACT that you are liberal in your political beliefts. That is FACTOID. It IS fact that candles are lit in my home this very minute and my dog sleeps and I sit at the computer.
The truth of the matter is that candles are one of the leading causes of house fires this time of year, so please be careful. :0)
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