Reading about Utah teachers, (and some other states) taking a training class to carry a concealed weapon into class without parents knowledge or approval, along with a lot of staff members being unaware, or any other regulation is just disturbing on so many levels for me. What do you think?
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Yep I believe the only thing that will come out of this temporary solution will be like you said an accident or something devastating enough to bring it to a halt I do think that the solution is teaching kids respect for life itself without violence
I couldn't agree with you more. If this were to ever happen in our school district there would be a mass exodus of people homeschooling or moving.
Sorry peeples they are taking concealed weapons classes where they will be carrying them on their person. This is still allowed as I commented in ThompsonPen answer in several states and they're hoping for more.
Thats even worse. I know how small kids are and I wouldn't want my son who has a touching habit trying to hug his teacher while she has a gun on her hip. EVEN WORSE!!!
Great. Now teachers will have the ability to rape children at gunpoint.
I totally agree with you it's just crazy!
Then whose to say a student who gets pissed off that day and has noticed the bulging weapon under clothing just overtakes the teacher and takes more lives. It's just easier access. What happens when the teacher thinks they see a gun and shoots them
Good point Renee and Charlu
Exactly my point which is why I don't think they should be allowed in schools.
What shouldn't be allowed in schools...teachers or guns? I think they both pose a barrier to attaining knowledge.
guns CJ guns...
Sorry, Renee. I thought that is what you meant, but I did not want to be found guilty of assuming too much. :0)
ABC News did a story on the first class where over 200 Utah educators showed up. They stated that the USSC organized the class and waived the $50 fee. Right now Utah, Oregon, Hawaii, and New Hampshire allow concealed weapons in public schools.
That is very true, but I don't think any of them (without previous training) can take a 3 or 4 day course and be ready psychologically or physically for that type of disturbing event.
Overcoming such a weakness would be a mere matter of adequate preparation. Absent that, your argument steers us back to putting trained armed guards in the schools rather than arming the teachers, i.e. to LaPierre's proposal.
I think your right about parents having a right to know and also wish it could be like it was when I grew up.
Wrong. Some people in our nation are stupid ALL the time. Jessica Lynch was a trained soldier, but when her convoy was ambushed and the the chips got down, she froze up and played dead. It's illegal to draft women into combat...unless your a teacher.
I would have to consider one well trained individual, but again knowing that they can't be everywhere at once would have to consider them as a small deterrent if at all.
If the presence of guns deterred criminals the US would be the safest place on earth. The last thing we need are teachers packing. If you get ambushed the chances of you killing the perp are slim to none.
I disagree with you JThomp as a 3 day training class they are conducting in Ohio now (not one of the states where concealed weapons are allowed in schools) is no match for a hyped up disturbed individual who takes them by surprise Just easier access
And what about the mentally-disturbed teacher?
Guns are not a solution. Outlawing guns is not a solution, either.
We have an undisclosed third party stirring up divisiveness and enmity in America. Agents provocateur to topple 2nd Amendment & mo
Most teachers are women, and as such, probably will falter under combat style scenarios like Jessica Lynch - a trained soldier. It's illegal to draft women into war, but now they want female teachers on the front lines in schoolhouse gunfights. Great
LoneStar...I cannot disagree or find fault with anything you said. Great speech, my friend.!!! :0)
I just don't see how a gun-wielding librarian and the lunch lady are going to win the day. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.
While I agree with you CJ I can't help but notice you only point to women as being those who would freeze - Men freeze up too. It's a bad idea all around whatever gender.
I will say, you offer a laughable picture :) Maybe more police officers on campus would be a better option.
Leah: I would do almost anything to see you smile again.
Christin: The reason I focused on females is that they comprise over 75% of the workforce within the schools. Yes, men can freeze up, too, but they're better geared for this kind of conflict