Lately I've noticed several questions, and even the occasional hub, where several people answer the question, and one person (not the author either) take over and tell people they are wrong and why, and continue to do this on each answer, and if people defend themselves or the person who answered, they continue to 'preach' (if you will). To me it seems like it's a "I'm RIGHT and you're wrong, and if you don't listen, I'll tell Daddy." hissy-fit. Any other thoughts?
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Thinking about the people I'm thinking of - this answer makes the most sense.
Sid, I agree with you re: the deeper causes of this, if it exists. As an egotistical person, I don't see it. (Ha!) But to clarify - as a narcissistic, egotistical, selfish person, I'm VERY self-aware. (So I disagree with your statement abt us:)
Billie - you are a rara avis - the exception that proves the rule!
Actually it's probably not so much self-awareness that is lacking in such people, but rather the awareness of the other people in the space. Being VERY self-aware leaves little room for others it seems.
Sid and Wind, I do like rara avis - it's kind :) This is what I love about being this age. I'm too old to change and old enough not to care. My daughter says that sometimes our Achilles Heel can be our super strength. I'm going with that!
I agree--it seems like there are the positive diversions and the negative diversions on a subject. I like the positive diversions and new perspectives, too.
I also agree. However if that fresh perspective is not picked up by others, it would be rude to keep pushing it. I tend to think it is better to start a new hub or question.
I enjoy fresh input from others into my hubs.
I also agree. I disagree with someone coming in and taking it over though, being aggressive towards other commentors who disagree with them.. That was what sparked the question
Yes, jlpark. It was a good question. I wonder how many people will see it and make a conscious decision to change their ways. :They may never have noticed how they 'take over' before.
I think you've done HP a service by raising the issue. :)
Deleting them sounds best in such cases, I agree. Converting people's thoughts who are set in their ways rarely happens. People were never taught to think for themselves, political extremists are like sheep following their assigned herd, unthinking.
Laura, I say it all the time...the sheep go baa, baa, baa all they way to the slaughterhouse of narrow minded and rigid thinking.
pagesvoice--I laughed a long time at your comment; I couldn't agree more!
Why would they bother commenting, in those cases, thereby taking the chance of being "wrong" or "threatened"?
Laura - perhaps don't assume self-awareness. They do not know they are afraid. They only know they have to be right. It's a defensive mechanism, a verbal form of bullying.
Ah! I'm sure you're right. That makes a lot of sense.
True true. Thanks for your answer Wesman
AS do I on occasion...or when my BP advises me it's time to wander away! Thanks for your answer
Not what I meant re: preaching - you're all good!. I know what you mean though - they can't seem to help themselves. Thanks for your answer Billie
You're right, vrdm. But this forum is predominantly for writers. Shouldn't writers be able to choose their words carefully enough to make their point clearly the first time ... with no need to repeat themselves in someone else's hub or question?
LTM-That is a good thought, but when you clearly state your position and someone else attacks your character, what do you expect?
Hi bn9900. I was responding to vrdm's concept of people trying to dominate a conversation by continuously repeating themselves. If they've made their point and have nothing new to add, I think they should sit back and give readers room to think. :)
Interesting way to look at things - thanks for this. I see a lot of truth in what you say
Thank you for your answer. Interesting that you can have what one would probably term a 'more grown-up' way of viewing the world, than your parents.
True true, and I seem to rfrequent the same ones they do! Thanks for your answer
Very true - take the risk to ask the question, deal with the answers
Not sure what you mean by this. I'm enjoying the answers - they give good insight into these people.
If you meant I knew the answer - nope, it's why I asked.
If you meant why any asks - that's true, but it's rude to take over a question still
I was talking in general, and not you specifically.
It seems like it should be up to the author to call time out.
Makes sense now! Sorry.
I never thought to look to see if someone else had written on the same topic I wanted to write about before. Is there a rule against that on HP, or something wrong with it? "They" say there's nothing new under the sun. Therefore, it seems inevitable.
I read hubs on the same topic as my own. If they are good, I link to them, & ask for a link back. I almost always get it. Example: I wrote on how to get certified as a Project Management Professional. An engineer from India did the same & we
Not quite what I meant - more that they get into a question, comment on EVERYONE and then can't let it be, MUST be right. But I agree - just get on with things
I agree, but it seems to me that that should be a dominant trait in our species, shouldn't it? Shouldn't people think for themselves and believe in what they say, considering other (even contrary) evidence along the way?
The "ego" arises when we operate from the survival function of the primitive reptilian brain. It cuts off rational and creative functions. Only a world with less fear, created people willing to be loving and courageous, will change this.
Sid... Do you think that is possible?
Thanks JThomp for your answer