Check out the financial picture of many of our Congressmen & women, our Senators, and our State Governors. These elected officials live pretty high on the hog, yet our nation suffers with problems of debt and a high percentage of poor. Why is it acceptable for our government officials to be so well off while so many others suffer? As a side question, I ask the followers of Jesus would Jesus approve of this? To anyone who feels for the suffering of the poor, do you think this is right? To you in the middle class suffering to pay your bills & raise your children, do you think this is right?
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A very well written and thought out comment!
One fallacy with your proposition is that poor people vote in large numbers; they don't. 41% of votes cast in 2012 earned less than $50,000. Assuming linearity, which it isn't. that means only 20% of the votes were cast by poor people (<$25K)
One fallacy of you assumption is that only poor people receive gov't entitlements. I don't use the gov't definitions of poverty. In the Northeast you can make well in excess of 50k and barely afford a studio apt. Addiction to entitlement spans income
Most of their wealth came long before they entered public office, especially US Senators and Governors, not as much with US Representatives.
That's not always true....But sometimes it is very true. But they have often used public office to greatly enhance their wealth.
I am only allowed so many letters so I chose Jesus; any philosophy will do. As for the other sub questions, they never mentioned Jesus, so no one is stopping you from answering them. As 4 pre-rich: Q: Why do the rich control & tax & get riche
Well, as an atheist, I think that Jesus would have advised you not to covet that which other people have. He was also smart enough to know that not every rich person is banking dirty money. Not being disrespectful - I happen to like Jesus.
I am an atheist as well & I don't covet ... I am disgusted that rep of gov have wealth while they have near bankrupted the nation perverting spending & laws to support maintenance of their power & wealth.
Ask why already rich want to go into gov. Answer, it leads to preserving their finances & power to maintain their money. Do u really believe the rich want to "help" others become well off? If they did their gov job, why is there a national debt
I am with you RT, but being resentful as to where and how they live is not going to help. You are right 'the rich' has an interest in maintaining the status quo as it always works to their advantage. If the politicians are non responsive remove them!
I don't think we are far often in agreement, if at all. I'm not resentful. I'm disgusted. I'm neither rich nor poor, but happy where I am. It disgust me to see an elite manipulate the system to add to & maintain their wealth at others expense
Well written. Corrupt, self-centered elected officials r in office because voters continue 2 vote them in. Ron Paul was ignored & corp controlled media labeled him crazy & the voters bought it. In fairness, our system doesn't allow poor to r
Your first point I meant to mention as well. We kind of behave like automatons and eat certain things and do things just because advertising tells us to. We vote with our wallets.
The system is now set to discriminate against those out of power & lacking money to become involved in gov. It is naive to claim disassociation. The richest did not become so by fair & honest means. Corruption runs rampant in our gov.
I agree the Fed is against everything our founding fathers sought in free enterprise. The Fed should be abolished. The rich control gov & the economy & the power of election. We r delusional slaves who think we r in control.
The Fed is counter to what our system claims to be. The Fed should be abolished and those that fail, should fail. The system is suppose to favor no one & allow only the successful to survive. Our system keeps individuals in power.
How is it counter? The first Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, set one up in the form of the First Bank.of the United States, after convincing Washington it was a good idea; this was his idea of a Fed at the founding of our nation.
The Fed was not what the forefathers had in mind. I suggest you re-read your history. Also the Fed floods the system with printed money & fools investors. Our system was meant to weed out failures, not prop them up with printed cash.
Yes we had the First Bank and the Second Bank and then we got rid of it until the Federal Reserve. In our early history they expanded the money supply creating runaway inflation. So the founders were strongly opposed to central banks.
I am sorry to hear of your ill health. My 30 year-old niece is autistic; my sister-in law has raised & cared for her all her life & still does; she can't do anything for herself. I wish you well & I hope good fortune comes your way!
I agree that the rich tend to hold the power positions, but the laws are made to maintain their hold on power & keep the rest out. The rich do hold office for money. The rich use legislation & politics to maintain & build their fortunes.
I agree, but I think American citizens are far more than cowardly; they are stupid, controlled & manipulated. We have become the slaves of the 21st century.
I think I have not been clear with the pt I'm trying to make. I'm not suggesting no one should have wealth in our system. I'm suggesting it disgusting that people elected to help our system control it, make money on it & have put us in debt.
Okay that makes more sense to me. Yes, if our elected officials are doing what you suggest and putting us in debt...that is disgusting but with our system, little can be done but to re-elect different bozos.
Politicians are supposed to act as servants of the people. If they do that well then I have np problem with them getting (honestly) rich.
If they are incompetent, corrupt or deliberately game the system to the disadventage of most, then I object.
I understand frustration, but we can change the system. To start, we need to vote in not someone who talks the talk, but someone who walks the walk. Ron Paul was discredited by the corp controlled media. We have to be smart & not believe TV ...
What u r buying into is that everyone rich got their by honest means. It is not envy, it is disgust many feel. That so many can b living in squaller while those elected to help r controlling the system & putting everyone in debt is disgusting.
I don't buy into everyone being rich by honest means. I don't live in squalor and no one put me into debt. What I'm saying is that those who are rich often help the poor & don't have to and shouldn't give away all they have to raise up the poor.
RealityTalk:. It's the same in the UK, a government of millionaire passing spending cuts that have driven people to suicide. Here we have a self selected elite safe because their tribe will vote for them no matter what happens or what they do.
We live in an interest making system (based on usury), so by default anyone who is earning money from nothing, is sucking the blood out of the integrity of society. So everyone is to blame really. But big $$$ makes loads even on small %.
Very well written. Our system is supposed to be one where the players survive or fail without gov intervention. Yet the rich control the laws to "legally" take "our" money to float them when they fail & stand on our sinking heads.
Very well expressed!
No rhetoric or I wouldn't have asked for your reply. Mesmerized, hardly. What is dumbfounding is that people continue to elect corp elite believing they will run this Country for the better of all or shrink gov intervention as originally intended.
We have a local senator who became wealthy by starting/buying a number of assisted living homes and facilities. She started off small many decades ago. Those politicians who are young/starting out tend to be the ones with less or no wealth.
I recall reading of research (simulations) that showed there would always be an 80-20 distribution of wealth in any society where trade was allowed.
I think government should prevent the hollowing out of the distribution you describe.
It's interesting that you added the Courts to the mix. I read an interesting book written on the Supreme Court Justices on the 70s Court and the politics involved in their decisions was shameful.
It was the courts who gave corporations personhood and unlimited contributions. Also it was the SC that decided that private entities could use eminent domain laws to enhance tax revenues.
Thank you for your comment. I will check out your link.