Wouldn't this be the simplest solution to all the issues with other countries? I hate to sound cold hearted but if they want to kill their neighbors it's none of our business. Why not just work towards being 100% dependent on only ourselves. Focus on having everything we need here (oil, merchandise, foods) that way we can mind our own business and leave the rest of the world alone. Is minding our own business a hard concept? We should only worry about those that are a threat to our actual country (not one of our multiple bases we feel the need to set up in other countries)
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But how can we intervene Eric, when we don't know who the enemy is? Lies and misconceptions are the norm these days.
I think the heart of what you say is true. I believe it. However, I feel we're being lied to and misled. It seems this is a never-ending circle we keep walking. Is it the role of one nation to police? Who will stop us eventually? It will happen.
Are those reasons not to help an ally or are they just complications? I did not know what I was to find next door -- but I heard a cry for help. What would you do, conduct a thousand investigations? (of course I only speak in metaphors about me)
What you did is what any normal individual would do. With Syria, I feel we're siding with evil. Tragedy is happening, yes. There is no easy answer. Do we really want to side with and put the Muslim Brotherhood or Al Qaeda in power in Syria?
No. Syria is a mess. We used to occupy countries until things straightened out. Now we just go in and win something and then let them decide. Police do not occupy a home they just go in to protect and stop violence.
Eric then why are we not in the Congo, Rwanda or other countries that are killing and abusing their people. Why now? Assad family has killed his own people before? Is it our job or right to be the planets policemen?
That is the first I heard that we are not in the Congo or Rwanda. Next you will tell me we are not already in Syria. I suppose we are not in Iran either?? Most international conflict does not require a marching army.
I think what she means is why Syria when there have been situations like this on a much grander scale where we've sat around and done nothing. If you get the chance watch Hotel Rwanda. I think it will break your heart, knowing how compassionate u r
It all makes me sick to my stomach.
makes me sick too. Especially the news coverage... they seemed thrilled to once again report half truths and guesses. I wish they would cover the refugees that all this causes... never hear much about that subject.
Disgusting! I just cancelled my TV. I have a nice one and love detective shows. But I can no longer support the industry. (give it a month hihihi) But we must show our disgust. News coverage propagates violence, period and end of story.
Eric, I like your view, but America is no longer a benevolent world leader. We've become the Evil Empire. False Flag operations to kill kids with sarin gas, blame it on Assad and take over their country. Evil!
You pleaded an excellent case for minding our own business.
Peepels, Wonderfully put. Notice in my scenario I first secured my child. We fall short of doing that. Another nuance I hope was not missed. I did not scold my neighbor lady. Love and Compassion are the only battle cries I can hear.
Beautiful, Peeples. Your compassion shines through.
But America is being run by psychopaths, like the Wall St. gang who destroyed millions of lives and received bailouts.
Are people who just do not feel remorse psychopaths? Who just do not give a damn about the injury they cause to others ---- is that what that means?
This is true and here is the issue: we get involved nowadays when we can benefit. Why not Rwanda? Why not Burma? They had "nothing" to offer us. They were not strategically important. If ever someone needed to help, it was in these and other cases.
precisely that john. This is nothing to do with humanitarianism, it's what is being spun to make it more acceptable, but this is about war profiteering and control of the oil trade.
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Had we minded our own business in WWI WWII wouldn't have ever happened. I suggest watching
before bringing WWII into the argument.
What a load of revisionist history bull pucky. We liberated France twice. Fully occupied and we liberated them. Not slogans but men who lost their lives. And then they got us involved in Asia. No oil. And I am sorry how did we cause the Holocaust?
Good words. Jimmy Carter said something I find true: "War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children."
But we need to look behind the scenes to see who is really doing what.
When Nelson Rockefeller was being vetted by Congress for VP, he was asked about one of his companies which supplied material aid to North Vietnam. He pleaded ignorance. For shame
I wish you had not reminded me of that. That was just after "we" shot Bobby.
We never should have been involved in Vietnam; and if memory serves me right we lost that war and none of the horrible things that our government claimed would happen ever did!
Borsia, I am married to a Vietnamese, I lived there for a time. My father in law was a Vietnamese with a US Purple Heart award. You have no idea what you are talking about. Is Vietnam a US ally now? Has it been invaded by China. Did it stop Pol Pot?
Pol Pot wasn't in Vietnam that was Cambodia.
The Chinese didn't take over Vietnam and neither did anyone else. After we were thrown out the Vietcong didn't slaughter everyone in the south.
Why would they be an ally? They aren't an enemy either.
Well there you have it. The Vietnamese Army went in and shut down the Killing fields In Cambodia. China occupied Vietnam for nearly a thousand years. And then after we left invaded again. There are constantly US Naval ships in Vietnam nowadays.
I think your right Johnsonrallen, though I wish it wasn't so. But if we must, why the hurry? Why not wait for proper U.N. backing and do it the right way if we really must? That said, I am against our interference.
I think there is always an agenda. Other nations have backed out, so why are we (gov'ment) still gung ho? There is an agenda and it has to be rushed before things become clear. I don't know if it has to do w/ Muslim Bro.hood ties or not, but seems so
I do not like John Kerry. But I respect him. He confirms nerve gas deaths of over 400 children in Syria. I do not know a man or woman in US Military that would not want to go stop that.
here is no doubt that nerve gas was used. But who used it are still guesses... I know Assad is a Thug, but this action in the limelight does not make sense.
Really, you do not think we had some "boots on the ground" and satellite coverage? Really. I am stumped on that denial!
It is puzzling that if he wasn't involved, why would he remain silent? I believe he isn't really commenting on his involvement/non-involvement. This is going to be one of those lesser of two evils situations if ever there was one.
American tyranny will be part of our undoing. Starting wars based on lies seems to be our evil habit.
America is the new Evil Empire. But you'll never know that if you only watch the Corporate Party media propaganda machine
Thomas, that line is old. Have you ever even sat in a congresswoman's office. Have you ever sat in Senate hearings. Our country is great and these folks work the butts off. I will bet you have never served your country. Yet you defame those who do.
If they're corrupt, I care little about how hard they work at being corrupt.
Oh you are so right -- all men and women that serve our country as elected leaders are scumbag corrupt dogs. Maybe that is how you have the power and that computer. What kind of place do you think you are living in?
I didn't say they were all corrupt.
"theyr're Curupt" is what I read --- but I was wrong. If was your preface. Sorry.
While there are bad apples, I say humanity mostly falls victim to its backward and short sighted ideas. Is all this inevitable, human nature or is that just an excuse? And if it is can we not be mature enough to rise above it for the greater good?
But what if the CIA is the one supplying the sarin gas to their Al Qaeda operatives?
We fall into the hands of evil if we knee-jerk react to such sympathetic pictures.
Send in the Red Cross -- not the military!
Sadly it isn't incompetence, it is corruption.
But when Wikileaks released documentation of that corruption everyone screamed "Kill the messenger", never bothering to read the message!
The things exposed should make one's skin crawl and demand an end
America is (2) centuries old. We didn't have "the bomb" until the World War. It's a little disingenuous to blame America for all that is wrong with the world. We haven't been bombing for centuries. Russia is no "saint nation" either! No nation is!
The US was meddling in other countries long before WWI and controlled the Middle East since WWII.
The USSR failed for the same reasons the US will one day.
But we learn nothing from history, we never look, never listen to our own mistakes or others.
Are you talking about Israel the same land that was stolen from the Palestinians? At the same time lets not forget that although new America was a land built on slavery and with the blood of the natives.
Ranzi, As far as I know there's no country with a morally upstanding history. Since the dawn of man there has been killing and stealing. Having said that America while not perfect is still one of the best countries to live in. One man's opinion! :-)
Ranzi, to say that America was "built on slavery" is pure ignorance. You are obviously not familiar with history. Yes, slavery in one form or another has always existed, but America was built on principles of honest work and integrity.
Somebody is kidding right??? I just looked at Ranzi's photo. It is exploitation of sexual attractiveness. That person worries about exploitation of others while she does it herself. She just exploited my daughters and my wife. They are not slaves.
Had America stayed out of WWI there probably would never have been a WWII.
Hitler was evil but Germany was forced into WWII against their will. It wasn't Hitler who wanted war, it was Churchill and Stalin who wanted to wipe Germany off the map.
Never deny or forget this song:
Ah yes Bob Dylan one of the greatest voices against war and US adventurism.
But the pons in the American government seldom listen to reason, they just dance on the strings of their masters.
Keep that money flowing; why care who wins or who dies!
Well I can never agree with you on religion, but at least I can on politics. It all comes down to greed and how we can make a profit and make it suit our country. Quite sickening in my opinion!
And what about the heroes who report the governments crimes, but serve half a lifetime in prison for their service?
And the ones who committed the crimes get off with nothing! Bush given immunity for War Crimes
What's this we stuff I keep hearing? When was the last time the citizenry was allowed to decide whether to or not to go to war? But who gets stuck with the bill? Whose children staff the front lines? We are not our government. They don't represent us
Poppy cock!! I am not spoiled. I started my first job at ten. And half the money went to my momma. I only feel bad when I do not contribute. My Gen is not spoiled. And now my family here, supports and volunteers for our Vets. Fact check please!!
So long as the US is run by Democrats and Republicans the US is doomed to fail.
When government and the Justice system is sold to the highest bidder there will be nothing but corruption.
Will we wake up in time to save us, I doubt it!
to a point I agree, but we never intervene in poverty stricken countries where we have no financial interests - that is what bothers me, humanitarianism is played up, but is not our govts. true motivation unfortunately...
Yes. JT, I agree with you 100%... HOWEVER: people like you are not in charge of world affairs. It's politics as usual and, as CS stated, we get involved when there is something to gain. I lived near Burma for 3 years. Why no help when they needed it?
Good point and Just like there it is Russia and China that are stopping us.
Just wanted to make sure everyone knows some of your comments are showing up as "awaiting moderation". I have marked as "not spam" so if they still aren't showing it isn't my doing.Eric one was yours on this answer.
Perhaps I used bad buzz words. Sorry.
Compassion is great, JT, but not from a psychopath like America who likely supplied the sarin gas to their Al Qaeda-aligned rebels.
Wake up and smell the tyranny. Obama is a liar. So was Bush. Remember the WMDs? You can tell a tree by its fruit
American aid always comes with many strings attached, and a high price tag.
Join in our corruption or we will turn a blind eye to you.
Become our lapdog or be treated like a stray dog.