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In short it is true of this lifestyle centuries ago, even the bible says so. In Genesis 19:4-7 verse 24 says all the nations where practicing these things, 26 says you are not to do these detestable things. Leviticus 18-22 says you must not .
Skin color is not a choice . We are genetically born with our features. Which is a ugly thing for people to be racist about. Just as some one handicapped they are not by choice, so this is not equal to race. As you have stated a right to chose.
Hi Kiss and Tales, where in my answer above did I say people have a right to choose skin color or being handicapped? I think my answer dwelt more on what rights people from the LGBT should have, not whether we have a right to choose skin color, etc.
You are correct you have a right to chose your sexual preference, black people did not have a choice to choose their race , example of a handicap person ,not their choice, so that is not an acceptable example to me . I do not know about others.
Kiss and Tales - tell me, when did you decide to be straight? How long did you consider the LGBT 'lifestyle'? Please consider your answers carefully. You will find you did not choose, so why assume we do? We don't - the choice is to accept it or not
To answer your question I was not born with choices ,until I was old enough to make choices . I am old enough to tell you that is none of your business, but you still can air yours which is also your choice and business.
Thats right - not my business. Nor is anyone's sexual orientation your business either. So why make a STATEMENT of fact that it's a choice, when you do not know that. I do not assume you chose to be straight - why made assumptions of choice for us?
You said "- the choice is to accept it or not" why did you use the word choice in your statement . Which makes no since.
The ONLY choice in sexual orientation is whether you accept, embrace and be proud of who you are, or whether you fight it, hide it, and be generally ashamed of it. I CHOSE to be proud of who I am, but I did not choose to be gay - I just am.
"The ONLY choice in sexual orientation is whether you accept, "you are still admitting to making a choice to accept, which means you have to be fully aware of a choice. Why you personaly choose this lifestyle is still your personal business .
K+T - I wonder why people who are not LGBT feel that they can STATE such is a choice as fact, despite most of the LGBT community (who have the experience) stating otherwise. I wonder what make the Non-LGBT such experts on issues not concerning them
Because you yourself has stated and I write quote " The ONLY choice in sexual orientation is whether you accept, embrace and be proud of who you are, or whether you fight it, .these are your own words ,you still said the only choice is! That is all.
Yes, I said choice - in how you DEAL with it, but not how it comes about - sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Please stop twisting my words. You and I are entitled to our opinions, and I wish to leave it at that. I know my truth + thats what matters
The point is you still used the word choice ! How it turns out is not the issue , I was stating your quote as you did say choice, it is not hard for anybody to read what you said. You are posting to me as to look for argument. No need for that.
I said choice, but NOT in relation to actual orientation. About how you deal with it. You are speaking as though I meant in relation to being gay when you mention "choice of lifestyle" - this is very obviously NOT what I meant. Please, just leave it
What I notice is religion can be in the form of anything including sex. It is what you make religion to be. Even your country. True many claim the title and are false to the power. But where did people learn the word of Love?
Not on your own.
GOOD answer I MIGHT ADD! Blunt statement but so succinct and true!
Scared of what another human equal to another human, on the same level inside out, Not to a issues that is centuries old, why was all the rights you claim you should have is not posted as bible base instruction as right, only denouncements its wrong.
This is true people care about what other people think! And I think that is part of the problem they care from the physical aspect not the spiritual ,since Our Heavenly Father is a spirit source he is far from their conscious of right and wrong,
A good Example is people in Katrina need help from everywhere , rescue teams where available to all people. People helping people being humanitarians ! no one was saying I am gay do not mistreat me. People came up to the plate of love when it counted
First you comment and let every one know your choice! in the post ,nobody has to guess. Next you ask me a question that is none of your business, I do not post personal information about me nor others,that is not privileged information to strangers.
And next nobody said anybody was an expert. Show me where I said I was You keep building on an argument that I will not feed into. As I have said before and my last statement to you. What your choice is your business ,and I will end it here.
True but sad religion has done much damage, but people have done the damage themselves.what is pure and clean is tainted. There is never an-excuse to hate. But we are to hate what is bad in the eyes of our Heavenly Father. People custom fit this fact
I agree little red85, good example of Audult and 14 year old child. I do agree that what our bodies were born to procreate. Yes there are birth defects which may alter people,and just because you have the power to do something does not make it right.
Before the rise of the Abrahamic religions homosexuality was culturally acceptable in most parts of the world. Cultural conditioning is the reason that it became taboo. Survival of the species argument is null as the species is obviously thriving.
We have many generations that reach back far before Moses, also with that history there are others who worshiped the same God as Moses. The other gods that existed goes as far back as Nimrod hunter of men and animals, also resister of the true God.
Yeah, Nimrod is mentioned in the bible and koran, as well as hebrew texts. Kinda makes him Abrahamic, at least in the way that he is thought about.
I mention him because until God almighty established an agreement or contract with the Israelites through Moses , all nations practice many things as listed above in scriptures. The point is people walk and live in the name of their own God.
Or no god at all. Religion is culturally imposed and does not make religious beliefs right, and I have never met anybody who sticks to all of the contradictory rules of the Abrahamic god. Using religion to justify hatred is just ignorance.